Def one of the funniest episodes for the podcast. From the "police" raiding Light and Tweek for drug abuse, to the Cilvanis cameos, to Light saying some of the most wild stuff lmao.
Mango, Zero, Nairo, Leo, Spargo, and now Shadic... I'm convinved there's a hidden slab out there with ancient text telling about the Prophecy of the Hispanic Children of Smash.
@@eneruem was gonna include him, Hbox, and Sonix but I couldnt remember how young they were when they started cooking (also the names ending with an O sound sounded nice lol)
The Tokyo boot camp invitational didn't count because the TOs asked for it to not count, so the disparity between these events wasn't random. Also invitationals counting has been the standard since the beginning of Ult, people don't say Summits were unserious. the difference is things like bo5, multiple days for the event and having vote ins/qualifiers.
would like to mention that light's record vs top japanese players is actually only 13-13 in the post quarantine era! he is negative against shuton, acola, miya, and asimo with even records against ken and protobanham : )
Can't believe the shadic vs anathema grands at the local after the invitational wasn't mentioned. Not only did shadic win another event, anathema started celebrating prematurely near the end of game 4, throwing the game and ultimately giving shadic the chance to clutch the set.
Why Light don't admit japan＞NA overall? Japanese middle level(top 20～50 in japan)players often upset NA top players in japan and NA,but NAs middle level players don't upset top Japanese players often. Players level gap is obvious
It's because when the player get familiar with Japan, they get the highest players of that region out of the bracket stupid early, and it doesn't help that Sparg0 and Sonix do better than Japan. Light and Dabuz also demolished Japan's very best players and had harder fights with players in this region.
@@justice8718 Light is 13-13 with Japanese players post quarantine so I think it's more of a perception thing. Dabuz was underperforming in every tournament except the Kagaribi at the end of his week in Japan last year, but he went game 5 so often I believe he has the record for the most games lost in a tournament run, so demolished Japan's best is not very true. He even has a losing record against most top Japanese players.
@@ktrZetto So what? Records don't mean anything at the day when Dabuz and Light already adapted to these players just from the very few sets they've encountered of these players.
Why is Light mad about Lvl Up Expo not being an A tier, if he wins he'll have very good head to heads against top talent and be ranked high, so its not for personal reasons, because rankings aren't just tallying point totals of won tournaments. The point breakdown of the two events only came down hidden bosses being the difference between an a tier and lvl up expo. If Lvl up expo just drove out a bunch of PR players from nearby regions they'd reach A tier using the same method as the other tournament and wouldn't change the outcome for Light at all. The biggest outcome of a tournament being an A tier is that it can appoint point values to players for its placings, which shouldn't matter to Light at all.
That is most likely the reason. Light probably just does not know that the events tier being A instead of B+ would make almost no difference for his ranking
15:12 That explains the sephiroth. I was also pretty disappointed with Leo's plays in the tournament. I hope the 2 goats come back strong next tournament. Edit: didn't know about proto. One of my favorite Japanese players. Hope the best for him.
I think people underestimate the pressure or toll of having to travel across the the world for a tournament, we're used to the japanese doing it since they do it all the time but that has to be a factor to take into account. (Here after Delta 8, which surprisingly had all japanese top 8.)
I thought Light was chatting shit until I saw the attendance list for LVL UP Expo. There's maybe a case for A but it's not a big tournament and the competition is just eh-- pretty solid names overall. Making a comparison to Maesuma adds no value to his point. With how much he talks about Japan (every week) he shouldn't be surprised it was seen as a snide remark.😂
7:34 I used to go to the Miami locals all the time, and this was always a persistent issue. NEVER enough setups. If you wanted to practice at the venue, you either had to show up hours early or stay past the tournament
What if the next luminosity invitational took inspiration from the coinbox invitational. Have a bracket for two more qualifiers to to get into the invitational part???
i haven't seen anything with cosmos in a while because i don't like watching people complacent with their failure, but I know he's been trying harder to take the game seriously and it shows in his demeanor here. good stuff. don't stop. for once i'm not disappointed in him; i'm proud and hopeful to see him grow.
41:28 ''Go fuck yourself, I can do what I want'' I agree. People need to stop saying that players need to travel. And by ''people'', I'm including you guys lol. You know what I'm referring to.
As of right now shadic is clearly the best in the u.s just based off what he’s been doing this year compared to anyone else. Can’t say tweek is better than shadic currently based on previous win results against each other when they haven’t played each other this year and obviously shadic is playing like a different person, just give it to the kid for once.
In addition to what EE said, Tweek also beat Shadic at Genesis. That said, I can see the argument for putting Shadic above Tweek in spite of the H2H. Shadic’s been more consistent
@@EEvisu my apologies he did beat shadic but like I said before previous wins on someone doesn’t define you being the best in the world it’s results if that was the case then spargo would be number 1 instead of acola
EE: *trying to give a spheal on sponsors not exactly paying for every flight* Light: *instantly chimes in that Moist is very much the exception compared to every other sponsor* EE: *has to divert what he was saying completely* That lil segment killed me lmaooo
I agree with Light talking shit about zomba I wanted to see him do well this year be lame to just not see him make a run for the rest of the year hopefully the fire comes back
good episode! also tired of ppl acting like it’s easy just to go to japan lmao. it takes money and going there for one tournament in a completely diff region for 0 financial incentive has little merit.
I played the hog this Monday every smash tournament I entered there I was not even close to winning them so I practiced using the GameCube controller for one day I was surprised that I did not sd every time because I use a Nintendo pro controller so the buttons are in different places. I been practicing that controller because there’s less input delay offline than online.
Shadics reminiscent of Big D, kinda hit a breakthrough point and became real top level material skill wise and starting getting high placements with a character a lot of people aren’t used to at that top level. Big D’s kinda fallen off a bit as I assume people have gotten used to the character’s gimmicks on a top level player but I don’t know if the same’ll happen to Shadic as much cause Corrin’s pretty good in contrast to Icies being like mid tier.
Light can beat top Japanese players but cant beat middle uncommon characters players for sure.Light is confident now because many Japanese players who can beat NA top players don't come NA so far.Light should come to japan to prove he actually can beat most Japanese players if not he scared
Light destroyed Miya last time they played in 2 sets, so this whole "too scared to play mid level japanese players", sounds like some complete bullshit
@@peashooter6628 I mean Light beat top players like miya don't mean he don't lose to lower level players at all. Some NA top players like zomba,muteace,AK,dabuz beat top Japanese players but lost to mid Japanese players in japan as well .
You guys don't understand mid Japanese players are scary for NA talent even for NA players who beat Japanese top talents often. Results of NA players who came to japan before showing.
I completely agree with light that the first time u go to Japan should be devoted to just enjoying being there. Going to a smash tournament is the last thing I would do the next time I go back.
The fact that Luminosity didn't utilize you for their planning of the invitational is really weird. You hosted an incredibly well-received invitational with Watch the Throne, you have years of experience within the community, and you have very close ties to many of the top players and know what they look for in an event. Why does Luminosity have you if they're not going to ask you to express your talents?
Next crew battle at a major: Light vs The world
Light vs Japan crew battle
Someone need to edit that "vs. the entire raw roster" pic but its just light vs international players
honestly sounds like a fun thing to do
like imagine end of the year, lumirank announced and the number 1 rank does this, would be pretty fun
Light becomes god of the new world
Give light all the stocks. Low-key, that should be a watch the throne event. 1 player vs 10 top player with the same stocks.
Keep the Cilvanis Insanity Cameos coming 😂😂
I can't wait for the Cilvanis compilation in the future lol
*Light, furious at 9AM with no release*
His meat: Master please I've done nothing wrong
??????
Def one of the funniest episodes for the podcast. From the "police" raiding Light and Tweek for drug abuse, to the Cilvanis cameos, to Light saying some of the most wild stuff lmao.
They were treating the invitational like a camp for kids im crying 😂 role call?
We was bout to be saluting in that MFer lmao
Mango, Zero, Nairo, Leo, Spargo, and now Shadic...
I'm convinved there's a hidden slab out there with ancient text telling about the Prophecy of the Hispanic Children of Smash.
Isai is Hispanic too iirc
@@eneruemyep
@@eneruem was gonna include him, Hbox, and Sonix but I couldnt remember how young they were when they started cooking
(also the names ending with an O sound sounded nice lol)
Truly all stars
sonix as well
When the next game comes out we gonna need the top 5 Marss run again AND the best doubles team of Light and Marss fr
Who's the new guy next to Marss?
EE as usual with the most insane one liners "The one wing chicken wing" 💀
The Tokyo boot camp invitational didn't count because the TOs asked for it to not count, so the disparity between these events wasn't random.
Also invitationals counting has been the standard since the beginning of Ult, people don't say Summits were unserious.
the difference is things like bo5, multiple days for the event and having vote ins/qualifiers.
would like to mention that light's record vs top japanese players is actually only 13-13 in the post quarantine era! he is negative against shuton, acola, miya, and asimo with even records against ken and protobanham : )
Weebs shouldn't be taken seriously.
@@justice8718bro gets triggered by a frame from an animation
When a majority of those sets are against a -2 in gnw and steve, who can dog walk Fox, pretty impressive record! :)
Can't believe the shadic vs anathema grands at the local after the invitational wasn't mentioned. Not only did shadic win another event, anathema started celebrating prematurely near the end of game 4, throwing the game and ultimately giving shadic the chance to clutch the set.
Won’t lie, I didn’t watch that lmao
That sonix, Mexico portion was something💀
The cilvanis cameos should stay. Boy is funny 😂
Why Light don't admit japan＞NA overall? Japanese middle level(top 20～50 in japan)players often upset NA top players in japan and NA,but NAs middle level players don't
upset top Japanese players often. Players level gap is obvious
It's because when the player get familiar with Japan, they get the highest players of that region out of the bracket stupid early, and it doesn't help that Sparg0 and Sonix do better than Japan. Light and Dabuz also demolished Japan's very best players and had harder fights with players in this region.
@@justice8718 Light is 13-13 with Japanese players post quarantine so I think it's more of a perception thing.
Dabuz was underperforming in every tournament except the Kagaribi at the end of his week in Japan last year, but he went game 5 so often I believe he has the record for the most games lost in a tournament run, so demolished Japan's best is not very true. He even has a losing record against most top Japanese players.
@@ktrZetto So what? Records don't mean anything at the day when Dabuz and Light already adapted to these players just from the very few sets they've encountered of these players.
@@justice8718 Dabuz is heavily negative against Japanese players idk how you can look at that and say he’s adapted lmao
The Cilvanis appearances got me crying everytime 😭🤣🤣 he needs to get back on the podcast again
Why is Light mad about Lvl Up Expo not being an A tier, if he wins he'll have very good head to heads against top talent and be ranked high, so its not for personal reasons, because rankings aren't just tallying point totals of won tournaments. The point breakdown of the two events only came down hidden bosses being the difference between an a tier and lvl up expo. If Lvl up expo just drove out a bunch of PR players from nearby regions they'd reach A tier using the same method as the other tournament and wouldn't change the outcome for Light at all. The biggest outcome of a tournament being an A tier is that it can appoint point values to players for its placings, which shouldn't matter to Light at all.
That is most likely the reason. Light probably just does not know that the events tier being A instead of B+ would make almost no difference for his ranking
LVLUP IS A MAJOR IN MY MIND
15:12 That explains the sephiroth. I was also pretty disappointed with Leo's plays in the tournament.
I hope the 2 goats come back strong next tournament.
Edit: didn't know about proto. One of my favorite Japanese players. Hope the best for him.
Lights on his FouseyTube Arc rn, Going from house to house every other pod
47:43 This is just straight up not true. Not even Cosmos could name the t20 Japanese players with confidence. Light is whining. LMAO
Love the honest talk about the invitational. Im sure they will only get better from here
Leo was partnering with COSMOS for Doubles? Yeah that man’s confidence is through the floor
Lmao
Cosmos won a major doubles. Cornball
Light’s Johns…Merch will go hard
Starting the podcast off with the N word pass has me rollin. All it takes is buying light a drink 💀💀💀 2:07
notes taken
Or dressing him up as a monkey.
Is that why he's called light? I thought it was in reference to his skin, not his drinking weight.
I think people underestimate the pressure or toll of having to travel across the the world for a tournament, we're used to the japanese doing it since they do it all the time but that has to be a factor to take into account. (Here after Delta 8, which surprisingly had all japanese top 8.)
I thought Light was chatting shit until I saw the attendance list for LVL UP Expo. There's maybe a case for A but it's not a big tournament and the competition is just eh-- pretty solid names overall. Making a comparison to Maesuma adds no value to his point. With how much he talks about Japan (every week) he shouldn't be surprised it was seen as a snide remark.😂
EE went from telling light to chill cuz it’s a kid friendly show to telling the ladies what he can do in 60 seconds in the advertising lol
7:34 I used to go to the Miami locals all the time, and this was always a persistent issue. NEVER enough setups. If you wanted to practice at the venue, you either had to show up hours early or stay past the tournament
i’m loving these chapter titles in the video lol
sad to hear about proto. his lucina was a gift to this game
The most surprising part of this episode is that y’all didn’t get onto cosmos for shadic again lmao
Shoutout to Cosmos for babysitting grandpappy C
Light is my GOAT, man. He's just always himself.
3 min in and CAREFUL don't get cancelled this my favorite podcast
I agree with Marss on his take on how invitationals shouldn't count for rankings
Chavo mentioned. Man I miss having the Vortex weekly. Those were some fun nights.
this episode was hilarious !!
When are you guys gonna have Larry on
Hmmmm
HMMMM?
Thanks for bringing these guys on EE. Props to Shadic of course, but wanted to see homie play everyone at their top
57:35 - zomba is a grown ass man with a car and a job. He doesn't have time for children's party games anymore
Leaving a comment to help the black people fight the algorithm
W
I was at the LG invitational was off but on the bright side I met the lights out crew
Light looks being afraid of Japan.
Bro the random ass cilvanis pop ups make this so much better than it already was
marss is just there
LIGHT IS BACK
Love seeing Marss on the show!
58:40 that is Thanos levels of hatred lol
First 2 minutes and already off to a great start 😂
What if the next luminosity invitational took inspiration from the coinbox invitational. Have a bracket for two more qualifiers to to get into the invitational part???
tweek is such an amazing player man, i agree he’s the best in the US easily. i personally think he’s the best player in the world
proto will always be one of the goats
Thanks for another video gentlemen 🎉
i haven't seen anything with cosmos in a while because i don't like watching people complacent with their failure, but I know he's been trying harder to take the game seriously and it shows in his demeanor here. good stuff. don't stop. for once i'm not disappointed in him; i'm proud and hopeful to see him grow.
41:28 ''Go fuck yourself, I can do what I want'' I agree. People need to stop saying that players need to travel. And by ''people'', I'm including you guys lol. You know what I'm referring to.
I love this podcast!!!
Holy shit Lights in!!!!!
As of right now shadic is clearly the best in the u.s just based off what he’s been doing this year compared to anyone else. Can’t say tweek is better than shadic currently based on previous win results against each other when they haven’t played each other this year and obviously shadic is playing like a different person, just give it to the kid for once.
Tweek beat Shadic at LMBM in January, he also won that event
In addition to what EE said, Tweek also beat Shadic at Genesis.
That said, I can see the argument for putting Shadic above Tweek in spite of the H2H. Shadic’s been more consistent
@@EEvisu my apologies he did beat shadic but like I said before previous wins on someone doesn’t define you being the best in the world it’s results if that was the case then spargo would be number 1 instead of acola
Holy shit Light is indoors
Great episode
EE is simply the best at midroll ad reads.
lets goooo the goat is back on the show
cilvanis lmao 🤣
28:30 Counterpoint: struggling significantly vs Steve in this meta means you cannot be the best
That kroger food got to ee 😂
marss so quiet on podcast im not used to him being polite like he talking to ya friends parents
Invite Cilvanis back to the podcast and have him change costumes every 10 minutes
1:00:35 Load bearing “Oh”
EE: *trying to give a spheal on sponsors not exactly paying for every flight*
Light: *instantly chimes in that Moist is very much the exception compared to every other sponsor*
EE: *has to divert what he was saying completely*
That lil segment killed me lmaooo
If every sponsor was Moist, we’d all be eating good
@@EEvisu Hope Goblin and Kola can train more.
what did cosmos see? 30:21
bro had a premonition
Is Luminosity trying to court marss? Hope you get that sponsorship bro!
I agree with Light talking shit about zomba I wanted to see him do well this year be lame to just not see him make a run for the rest of the year hopefully the fire comes back
Immediately after stream ended Marss said “shut up light, my god”
idk man… finding a place to live doesn’t seem nearly as important as traveling to japan to compete in a video game for zero financial incentive
thank u bro
good episode! also tired of ppl acting like it’s easy just to go to japan lmao. it takes money and going there for one tournament in a completely diff region for 0 financial incentive has little merit.
why is Cosmos living in a clown house now 🤣
We all broke
I played the hog this Monday every smash tournament I entered there I was not even close to winning them so I practiced using the GameCube controller for one day I was surprised that I did not sd every time because I use a Nintendo pro controller so the buttons are in different places. I been practicing that controller because there’s less input delay offline than online.
Niceeeee!
Shadics reminiscent of Big D, kinda hit a breakthrough point and became real top level material skill wise and starting getting high placements with a character a lot of people aren’t used to at that top level. Big D’s kinda fallen off a bit as I assume people have gotten used to the character’s gimmicks on a top level player but I don’t know if the same’ll happen to Shadic as much cause Corrin’s pretty good in contrast to Icies being like mid tier.
When the organizers left max and ee hanging on stream before top 8 felt really unprofessional
It’s all good
Great episode my dudes
Btw 29:07 is Comos a Statistics Professor? lol great analysis
Damn RIP protobanham
I love cosmos background roommate please dont remove him.
Light can beat top Japanese players but cant beat middle uncommon characters players for sure.Light is confident now because many Japanese players who can beat NA top players don't come NA so far.Light should come to japan to prove he actually can beat most Japanese players if not he scared
Light beaten Miya. The rest of Japan are chumps in comparison to that.
Light destroyed Miya last time they played in 2 sets, so this whole "too scared to play mid level japanese
players", sounds like some complete bullshit
@@peashooter6628 I mean Light beat top players like miya don't mean he don't lose to lower level players at all. Some NA top players like zomba,muteace,AK,dabuz beat top Japanese players but lost to mid Japanese players in japan as well .
You guys don't understand mid Japanese players are scary for NA talent even for NA players who beat Japanese top talents often. Results of NA players who came to japan before showing.
Let us gooooooo
Light’s not wrong. The best players ARE in NA. Spargo, Sonix, Shadic, Tweek, Light, MK Leo…
a dude named light should not be handing out n word passes lol
Ken btw
At the moment for this year Shadic is the best US player.
A nice podcast, but I feel like Marss barely got any chance to have a say.
He was definitely vibing but his presence is always valued and welcomed
EE calls this podcast family friendly and then does an ad read for a sports betting company
Get to betting kid
@@EEvisu wink wink
-light
How tf EE find out about Leo dropping out before his OWN teammate Cosmos LOOOL
lmao marss 😭
I completely agree with light that the first time u go to Japan should be devoted to just enjoying being there. Going to a smash tournament is the last thing I would do the next time I go back.
29:30 😂
29:27 - Aye yo! EE trying to genocide the DR???
😂
The fact that Luminosity didn't utilize you for their planning of the invitational is really weird. You hosted an incredibly well-received invitational with Watch the Throne, you have years of experience within the community, and you have very close ties to many of the top players and know what they look for in an event. Why does Luminosity have you if they're not going to ask you to express your talents?
*shrug*
BRO OMG MARRS
why is there an Xbox icon on their names on screen??
?
It’s their Twitter (X) handles/name
@@EEvisuThey’re referring to the X symbol by the names