My father was a F-4D Skyray pilot and squadron commander of VF-13 aboard the aircraft carrier USS Shangri-La, out of Mayport, FL. As a kid, I got to sit in the Skyray. I still remember it.
My father flew F-9 Panthers, before the Marines got this. Their very first super sonic aircraft. F-4f Skyray. VMF-115;out of El Toro. (Intercepters) My father was the pilot who bent the main frame on this aircraft. Pulling way too hard out of a dive. Showing the brass what it could do. So, yeah. This is the coolest episode ever, to me. Too bad he didn't make it this far. He would have loved this podcast. THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💔 Apache Grunt.
At the age of 11, I watched one crash atMCAS Cherry Point. We were in the family car, stopped at the end of the runway. As the jet lifted off and began to climb. The aircraft began a roll to the right. Just past 90 degrees of roll, the pilot popped out, his chute opening Justin time to slow his descent into rising ground on the side of the runway. The jet continued to roll as it passed over the road ahead of us. Reaching inverted flight, it nosed over and plunged into the slough off the end of the runway, making a big splash. Pretty dramatic stuff to see at 11 years old.
I thought this comment was posted, So here it is again. My dad was the leadman in Douglas prototype at El Segunda and built the first F4D Sky Ray and the F5D supersonic SkyLancer which had an area rule (boundary layer/coke bottle) fuselage which was about 8 feet longer but used the same J57 with AB. My dad worked directly with Ed Heinemann on those programs. Only built about 4 F5D.
This machine, the F4D Skyray, was more of a lightly built sport machine than a naval fighter. Operationally is was not deemed 'squaddy proof' by maintenance chiefs. It acquired many dents and other minor damage just being handled on the deck and in the hanger. But it was a better performer than the Grumman F-11 but slightly harder to handle for inexperienced pilots. It took the F-4 Phantom to replace it fully in the performance envelope. Just a machine way ahead of its time.
One of my alltime favorite jet aircraft! Over the last five decades I've built many models of the Skyray. 😎👍 It's a good thing they were able to switch engines, with the debacle of the failed J-40 engine.
What a handsome aeroplane. I remember seeing a kit in a model shop in Somerset some time back. Keep mining that rich seam of Cold War aircraft, you're finding some gems.
It did evolve into the supersonic F5D which was a very similar design with an area rule fuselage that was slightly longer. The F4D later received the J57 which was used in the F5D of which only 4 were built. My dad, a leadman at Douglas Prototype worked with Heinemann in the building the prototype F4D and F5D.
I like the skyray. I would have liked to see it further experimented with. The F117 nighthawk, vaguely resembles a skyray made from cardboard cut-outs.
I would of like a comparison with the Canadian Delta wing Arrow, that was ready to be operational in 1959, skipping the prototype testing, but destroyed by the Canadian government of John Diefenbaker the same year for no good reason, that had no vision. That was an outstanding performance Aircraft.
The Ford got its nickname from its F4D type designation (Eff Four D = FORD) much like the Bone getting its nickname from B-1 (B-ONE). I liked this airplane a lot even though it left service before I was able to build scale models.
Fun fact: They shoved a J-79 into at least one Skyray at Edwards. I cant remember what the test was, but. It was discussed in a book titled: The Killer Rays.
Many of the mid 30s film clips shown in this video show tailless designs not deltas. The Me163 was also a tailless design not a delta. The YB35 and YB49 and B1 are some examples of tailless designs. The main drawback to tailless designs are their pitch sensitivity. It’s possible for them to tumble out of control. Edwards AFB is named for a pilot who died from this .
My dad was flying these in the USMC in 1957-58 in VMF314. The video said 1962. He loved the plane, and liked that it was a hard plane to master, and the pilot had to be able to do his own navigation.
You're forgetting the Vought F-8 Crusader ... which flew rings around the Demon and the Phantom. The Phantoms kill ratio in Vietnam was 2.5:1 ... The Crusader's KR was 6:1 despite many more Phantoms being deployed in the conflict over a longer period of time. 90% of the first Top Gun instructors were Crusader jocks who were well trained in ACM (the F-8 was designed as an Air Superiority Fighter)... where the Phantom guys were 'missile launching interceptors' first, and ACM guys second. ^v^
What a hotrod! Only replaced because the F-8 was the ultimate hotrod. That didn't stop Douglas from continuing their Delta wing designs as the legendary A-4 would join the fleet in 1956 and serve for more than a decade. Probably pound for pound the most capable aircraft ever built.
I worked for Westiinghouse (you can be sure if it's Westinghouse), but it was not... It was Pratt&Whitney that powered the ford (F4D)... Better check your facts...
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At the same time Canada built a delta wing interceptor with twin J79 pratt and whitney engines that tested in one of the first flights at mach 1.9 at 50000 feet
The N.A.C.A. was never called nA’kuh People did not pronounce organization initials as words back then. My father was Chief Aerodynamicist for the agency and I grew up in the core circle of families in leadership of the agency. The people who, when the agency changed its name to N.A.S.A would become the core of the new agency. For which he was also the Chief Aerodynamicist, before reordering the research structure and becoming the director of space vehicle research. Known as N-A-S-A or “the space agency” it would not be pronounced as a word until the very late 1960s. Hearing nA’kuh is like fingernails on a hundred blackboards.
What was secret about the Douglas F4D Skyray? The J-40 (one of Westinghouse‘s rubbish follow ons to the J-34 (the J-46 was the other) that handicapped several US Navy programs (Douglas F4D-1, Douglas A3D, McDonnell F3H-1, Vought F7U Cutlass). However even with the J-40 the prototype F4D took a world speed record. Replacing the J-40 with the reliable J-57 redeemed the F4D (and the A3D), though low speed handling gave some rather alarming looking carrier landings. The lightweight airframe somewhat compromised it’s naval service, the F5D Skylancer was better, but by then it was competing against Vought’s F8U Crusader, McDonnell’s F4H Phantom.
The Skyray did set a time to altitude record, but it was still a sub-sonic fighter and by the time of its introduction was being superseded by supersonic designs. It only served a few years before it was replaced by the McDonnell Phantom
My father wrote to Lippish about circular wings. Lips was a wonderful man and wrote back about them and also his work. UA-cam has a series of Lippish tv shows on aerodynamics. Great series.
I'm surprised that there's no mention to it's tendency to porpoise when pulling into a climb or pancaking on landings. The former tended to ripple the skin of the aircraft while the latter made landings more difficult. The later version of it had thinner wings, thicker skin, and an extended nose. It's one of my favorite aircraft, just odd not to hear about some of it's major issues
Not only are our modern aircraft designs taken from the old Luftwaffe hence F86 looks alot like the Mig15 which both came from the Messerschmitt P1101 jet. Also dual axial flow jet turbine engines are also directly sourced from German turbines designed by Dr. Ohain. No body uses the English Frank Whittle centrifugal jet engine anymore.
Centrifugal are still common on smaller utility engines, like GPU's, as well as smaller turboshaft engines, so they're still viable at least. Simple design.
The Whittle centrifugal flow design was the right engine at the right time. Little compressor development was required at the time as the centrifugal compressor was already well developed and in wide use in both mechanical and exhaust driven superchargers. On the other hand, axial flow compressors were much more complex, harder to build and still in the early stages of development. Centrifugal units are still in use today in tandem with axial flow compressors in many turboprop engines.
While I love this channel's videos and content, I'm constatntly surprised at how so many clips don't match the subject, or what's being talked about at that moment.
So when McNamara decided to take the f110 and force the Air Force to call it the f4, he was read designating an aircraft who's designation already existed. And would probably have been a better aircraft for Vietnam in the first place. I remember years ago seeing the flight characteristics of this aircraft, and it would probably have eviscerated migs. By the 1960s it would have been engine to be able to go up at faster than it dead in the 1950s. It's agility was probably much superior to the make 17 or the 21.
Heinemann designed the plane to accommodate different engines, in case the projected engines came up short in specs. Engines that didn't meet design power were a major source of failed aircraft during that time. While the F4D could go supersonic, it drank prodigious amounts of fuel because of it's fuselage shape; she was designed before the area rule of fuselage design was developed which greatly reduced drag. The Navy decided not to go with the newer F5D, as it's capabilities nearly matched the F8U Crusader already in service and that there were worries that McDonald Douglas would have the monopoly on naval aircraft.
The Chief reason the F4/F6 Skyray's service time was so short lived was mostly due to the performance capabilities of the Mighty McDonnell Douglas F4 Phantom II
I think it’s interesting how the Americans used delta wings relatively rarely on their fighters, while European engineers used them all the time. Is cost a reason? European developers probably didn’t have the same resources.
Other than the variable geometry era the F-4 F-15 f-22 and f-35 are each true deltas just with elevators and the F-16 and F-18 are double deltas. I mainly think that the F-14 just looms large in the imagination. I do wish the F-16xl had gone to production though.
@@shorthand1121 Ah, thank you. I admit, I don't know nearly enough about wing geometry. But the European jets like Mirage always seemed more, well, triangular.
Interesting how the current move towards blended body designs look like they are mimicking the thick wing designs of old. That is how the NGAD is supposed to achieve greater range with more fuel, I believe.
@@bobharrison7693 You know him. I know him. And a few thousand other aircraft nerds know him. But he is not as well known as R. Mitchell, Willy Messerschmitt, Jack Northrop and Sidney Camm. And I forgot Kelly Johnson...
Its funny i got the F4d-1 Skyray in war thunder about 7 months ago and couldnt find really any videos of the history of the jet just war thunder gameplay and about a month later you release this. You must be reading my mind.
If the development had not been delayed, it would have been interesting how this would have competed against the MIG-15. Are there any gaming portrayals of this type of encounter?
All american Delta aircraft are based in the work by Alexander Lippisch, who, as video points, was in Langley during the NACA tests of his DM-1/ L-13, seized after UK-USA attacks to Germany and other European nations. Just the tailor Roy Scroggs had patented a Delta Wing Planform aircraft before the studies by Alexander Lippisch and CharlesT Jones.
Jack Northrop was experimenting with the Delta Wing in the 30's and 40's with his flying wing.... Northrop was just too far ahead of his time is all.... But Northrop got to see his dream become reality when they wheeled him in his wheelchair into a Top Secret hanger to show him the B-2 Spirit shortly before he died.... The proof Jack was right all along.... RIP Jack‼️🇺🇲‼️
My father was a F-4D Skyray pilot and squadron commander of VF-13 aboard the aircraft carrier USS Shangri-La, out of Mayport, FL. As a kid, I got to sit in the Skyray. I still remember it.
Amazin.
Nice! 👍🇺🇸
I was stationed in Mayport back during the SKYNARD era . Was it as much a dump back then as it was in the 70s 🤔😉😂
Awesome 👍🏻
The USN actually named a ship, Shangri-la? Isn't that Tibetan for paradise?
My father flew F-9 Panthers, before the Marines got this.
Their very first super sonic aircraft. F-4f Skyray. VMF-115;out of El Toro. (Intercepters)
My father was the pilot who bent the main frame on this aircraft.
Pulling way too hard out of a dive. Showing the brass what it could do.
So, yeah. This is the coolest episode ever, to me. Too bad he didn't make it this far. He would have loved this podcast.
THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💔
Apache Grunt.
I grew up living in El Toro in the 70s and 80s. Loved it! The Air Show was the high light of the year.
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I was there in the 60s and 70s. Racing home to see speed racer every afternoon.
The good old days!!! 👍
@@teamgonzo9289 it was such an amazing place to live back in the day.
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Amen brother 👍
He bent the air frame.
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Would have loved to hear what the top brass & manufacturers had to say about that.
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At the age of 11, I watched one crash atMCAS Cherry Point. We were in the family car, stopped at the end of the runway. As the jet lifted off and began to climb. The aircraft began a roll to the right. Just past 90 degrees of roll, the pilot popped out, his chute opening Justin time to slow his descent into rising ground on the side of the runway. The jet continued to roll as it passed over the road ahead of us. Reaching inverted flight, it nosed over and plunged into the slough off the end of the runway, making a big splash. Pretty dramatic stuff to see at 11 years old.
Damn. I bet you talked about that at school for a year.
That's exciting at any age.
I thought this comment was posted, So here it is again. My dad was the leadman in Douglas prototype at El Segunda and built the first F4D Sky Ray and the F5D supersonic SkyLancer which had an area rule (boundary layer/coke bottle) fuselage which was about 8 feet longer but used the same J57 with AB. My dad worked directly with Ed Heinemann on those programs. Only built about 4 F5D.
One of the most beautiful fighters of the era.
This machine, the F4D Skyray, was more of a lightly built sport machine than a naval fighter. Operationally is was not deemed 'squaddy proof' by maintenance chiefs. It acquired many dents and other minor damage just being handled on the deck and in the hanger. But it was a better performer than the Grumman F-11 but slightly harder to handle for inexperienced pilots. It took the F-4 Phantom to replace it fully in the performance envelope. Just a machine way ahead of its time.
F11F-1F was far better
One of my alltime favorite jet aircraft! Over the last five decades I've built many models of the Skyray. 😎👍
It's a good thing they were able to switch engines, with the debacle of the failed J-40 engine.
What a handsome aeroplane. I remember seeing a kit in a model shop in Somerset some time back. Keep mining that rich seam of Cold War aircraft, you're finding some gems.
A beautiful looking aircraft and held the world speed record for a while, one of my favourite jets
The Skyray has always been a favorite of mine. Thanks for posting this.
NASA also used the F5D Skylancer, and one pilot was Neil Armstrong. 😊
Didn't Neil use the Skylancer to work up the flight profile for the experimental Dyna-Soar re-entry vehicle? ^v^
My favorite model as a kid
This aircraft appears to be the first area rule blend type of design. Amazingly beautiful.
This is the one we were waiting for
Aircraft designers with bold and innovative ideas.
Think of how fast chuck yeager could have went if the Bell X-1 had swept back wings!
@@conniemclaughlin3156 I can imagine if he had flown the X2.
Having built a few RC models of the skyray....they have all flown great.
Good looking aircraft. Looks like it would fit right between an Avro 707 and a Vulcan.
Truly elegant shape and beautiful to watch.....from a time when anything in aviation was possible.
One of the first models I ever built. It still looks futuristic.
Retirement of such beauties always brings a tear...
One of the prettiest fighters, ever.
Had a model of this jet was I was a kid. Good times.
I Really Love This Plane I Would've Loved To See What It Could've Evolved Into
It did evolve into the supersonic F5D which was a very similar design with an area rule fuselage that was slightly longer. The F4D later received the J57 which was used in the F5D of which only 4 were built. My dad, a leadman at Douglas Prototype worked with Heinemann in the building the prototype F4D and F5D.
Beautiful plane. If it had different paint, it almost would look like a modern design.
This has always been one of my favorite aircraft. Right alongside the F7U Cutlass and F2Y Sea Dart.
I like the skyray. I would have liked to see it further experimented with. The F117 nighthawk, vaguely resembles a skyray made from cardboard cut-outs.
From what aspect?
What a gorgeous aircraft, it was a clean design. I’d love to have an RC EDF one day.
I built a Comet, or some other kit, a long time ago and it would hand glide nicely. It’s a stable design.
Love these Cold War jets. 😍 Another interesting video, thank you.
One of beautiful fighter aircraft's design
I have always liked this Delta Wing design. A beautiful aircraft!
That was always my 3rd favorite aircraft. The SR71 being my first favorite and the F4 Phantom being my second favorite.
I would of like a comparison with the Canadian Delta wing Arrow, that was ready to be operational in 1959, skipping the prototype testing, but destroyed by the Canadian government of John Diefenbaker the same year for no good reason, that had no vision. That was an outstanding performance Aircraft.
More in common with that huge RAF thing that was canceled as well.
Beautiful aircraft.
Such a beautifl aircraft
I had totally forgotten about this unique aircraft. Many thanks for this great video.
The Ford got its nickname from its F4D type designation (Eff Four D = FORD) much like the Bone getting its nickname from B-1 (B-ONE).
I liked this airplane a lot even though it left service before I was able to build scale models.
I'll never get how Lippisch, @ 3:28, thought that huge stabilizer was a good thing 🙄
Fun fact: They shoved a J-79 into at least one Skyray at Edwards. I cant remember what the test was, but. It was discussed in a book titled: The Killer Rays.
Great video. I specially liked the retro music towards the ending, I thought I was watching Agents of UNCLE from Guy Ritchie again...
Why aren't there any flying examples of this wonderful bird ?
Would have been cool if they continued to develop the airframe
Many of the mid 30s film clips shown in this video show tailless designs not deltas. The Me163 was also a tailless design not a delta. The YB35 and YB49 and B1 are some examples of tailless designs. The main drawback to tailless designs are their pitch sensitivity. It’s possible for them to tumble out of control. Edwards AFB is named for a pilot who died from this .
My dad was flying these in the USMC in 1957-58 in VMF314. The video said 1962. He loved the plane, and liked that it was a hard plane to master, and the pilot had to be able to do his own navigation.
For the US Navy the McDonnell F3H Demon was the big dog until it was replaced by the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II.
You're forgetting the Vought F-8 Crusader ... which flew rings around the Demon and the Phantom. The Phantoms kill ratio in Vietnam was 2.5:1 ... The Crusader's KR was 6:1 despite many more Phantoms being deployed in the conflict over a longer period of time. 90% of the first Top Gun instructors were Crusader jocks who were well trained in ACM (the F-8 was designed as an Air Superiority Fighter)... where the Phantom guys were 'missile launching interceptors' first, and ACM guys second. ^v^
IMHO, one of the most beautiful fighters ever built.Clean and sleak. I wonder why no one has copied this design in a homebuilt microjet.
Great video! I love Dark Skies!
I haven’t gotten past the first ad. I’m excited to watch this about the f4-d and read the comments and learn more
Y'know... that's a damn fine looking airplane. I wonder if I can whip one up on my 3D printer...?
The F117's control was configured like a delta wing. Can't help but think that the Skyray's design data was incorporated into it.
Nice aircraft. It looks like a mix of the Vulcan and the Phantom.
I did not realize th USN had this many Skyrays in their inventory. Good to know.
Thank you for Kazimir Semenovich! Really nice!
The balsa and tissue thumbnail is cool!
What a hotrod! Only replaced because the F-8 was the ultimate hotrod. That didn't stop Douglas from continuing their Delta wing designs as the legendary A-4 would join the fleet in 1956 and serve for more than a decade. Probably pound for pound the most capable aircraft ever built.
Good information and excellent vintage visuals.
Beautiful Aircraft! Delta Wings and Flying Wings are my favourite Aircrafts!😎👍
I worked for Westiinghouse (you can be sure if it's Westinghouse), but it was not... It was Pratt&Whitney that powered the ford (F4D)... Better check your facts...
At the same time Canada built a delta wing interceptor with twin J79 pratt and whitney engines that tested in one of the first flights at mach 1.9 at 50000 feet
@7:08 was surprised that sparks didn't come out on that high angle-of-attack take off....Guess the A-4 was a tail dragger?
Wooden deck.
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The N.A.C.A. was never called nA’kuh
People did not pronounce organization initials as words back then.
My father was Chief Aerodynamicist for the agency and I grew up in the core circle of families in leadership of the agency. The people who, when the agency changed its name to N.A.S.A would become the core of the new agency. For which he was also the Chief Aerodynamicist, before reordering the research structure and becoming the director of space vehicle research. Known as N-A-S-A or “the space agency” it would not be pronounced as a word until the very late 1960s.
Hearing nA’kuh is like fingernails on a hundred blackboards.
That's a good thumbnail someone took a lot of care building the freeflight model!
Such a good looking aircraft
My foggy memory seems to recall an experimental program where a GE J-79 was fitted to the F-4D. True?
Love the English Electric Lighting....did not know it was a delta wing
Lol I saw that too. 1.11 or thereabouts.
What was secret about the Douglas F4D Skyray? The J-40 (one of Westinghouse‘s rubbish follow ons to the J-34 (the J-46 was the other) that handicapped several US Navy programs (Douglas F4D-1, Douglas A3D, McDonnell F3H-1, Vought F7U Cutlass). However even with the J-40 the prototype F4D took a world speed record. Replacing the J-40 with the reliable J-57 redeemed the F4D (and the A3D), though low speed handling gave some rather alarming looking carrier landings. The lightweight airframe somewhat compromised it’s naval service, the F5D Skylancer was better, but by then it was competing against Vought’s F8U Crusader, McDonnell’s F4H Phantom.
The Skyray did set a time to altitude record, but it was still a sub-sonic fighter and by the time of its introduction was being superseded by supersonic designs. It only served a few years before it was replaced by the McDonnell Phantom
I've Always Liked The Delta-Wing Configuration.
My father wrote to Lippish about circular wings. Lips was a wonderful man and wrote back about them and also his work. UA-cam has a series of Lippish tv shows on aerodynamics. Great series.
Lippisch was actually a hard core Nazi
I'm surprised that there's no mention to it's tendency to porpoise when pulling into a climb or pancaking on landings. The former tended to ripple the skin of the aircraft while the latter made landings more difficult.
The later version of it had thinner wings, thicker skin, and an extended nose.
It's one of my favorite aircraft, just odd not to hear about some of it's major issues
nice video 😍and very informative
It was so beautiful fighter.
The Sky Ray pretty Kool plane!
It looked far more modern than its peers.
Not only are our modern aircraft designs taken from the old Luftwaffe hence F86 looks alot like the Mig15 which both came from the Messerschmitt P1101 jet. Also dual axial flow jet turbine engines are also directly sourced from German turbines designed by Dr. Ohain. No body uses the English Frank Whittle centrifugal jet engine anymore.
More Nazi fetishism...
Centrifugal are still common on smaller utility engines, like GPU's, as well as smaller turboshaft engines, so they're still viable at least. Simple design.
The Whittle centrifugal flow design was the right engine at the right time. Little compressor development was required at the time as the centrifugal compressor was already well developed and in wide use in both mechanical and exhaust driven superchargers. On the other hand, axial flow compressors were much more complex, harder to build and still in the early stages of development. Centrifugal units are still in use today in tandem with axial flow compressors in many turboprop engines.
P1101 looks more like a bell and yak 9
A very aesthetically designed aircraft. It looks like it was eventually turned into the A-4 Skyhawk (though the A-4 did have two smaller tail wings...
Anyone else glad this thing no longer wong rips super easy on War thunder?
Please do something on the Cutlass also?
Best jet of the 1950s
While I love this channel's videos and content, I'm constatntly surprised at how so many clips don't match the subject, or what's being talked about at that moment.
I have a large official photo of a 101 or 102 ? 6682 tail number. R&D version I suspect. The Engine is huge!
Cool jet aircraft
If they let us know they have this...what do they have we don't know about?
That's a gorgeous bird.
So when McNamara decided to take the f110 and force the Air Force to call it the f4, he was read designating an aircraft who's designation already existed. And would probably have been a better aircraft for Vietnam in the first place.
I remember years ago seeing the flight characteristics of this aircraft, and it would probably have eviscerated migs. By the 1960s it would have been engine to be able to go up at faster than it dead in the 1950s. It's agility was probably much superior to the make 17 or the 21.
Heinemann designed the plane to accommodate different engines, in case the projected engines came up short in specs. Engines that didn't meet design power were a major source of failed aircraft during that time. While the F4D could go supersonic, it drank prodigious amounts of fuel because of it's fuselage shape; she was designed before the area rule of fuselage design was developed which greatly reduced drag.
The Navy decided not to go with the newer F5D, as it's capabilities nearly matched the F8U Crusader already in service and that there were worries that McDonald Douglas would have the monopoly on naval aircraft.
The Chief reason the F4/F6 Skyray's service time was so short lived was mostly due to the performance capabilities of the Mighty McDonnell Douglas F4 Phantom II
I think it’s interesting how the Americans used delta wings relatively rarely on their fighters, while European engineers used them all the time. Is cost a reason? European developers probably didn’t have the same resources.
The us often gets stuck in tradition when it comes to the military
Other than the variable geometry era the F-4 F-15 f-22 and f-35 are each true deltas just with elevators and the F-16 and F-18 are double deltas. I mainly think that the F-14 just looms large in the imagination. I do wish the F-16xl had gone to production though.
@@shorthand1121 Ah, thank you. I admit, I don't know nearly enough about wing geometry. But the European jets like Mirage always seemed more, well, triangular.
@@ThePressurizerI think you're thinking of Europeans using deltas with canard. Like the Eurofighter, Rafale, and Gripen.
@@RobertWilliams-ox4hz Yes, exactly, that was what I had in mind.
Interesting how the current move towards blended body designs
look like they are mimicking the thick wing designs of old.
That is how the NGAD is supposed to achieve greater range with more fuel, I believe.
That's a sharp aircraft, never did build a model jet. But plenty of propeller driven models from ww2.
Heinemann, a great but almost forgotten, aircraft designer.
Forgotten? Hardly!
@@bobharrison7693 You know him. I know him. And a few thousand other aircraft nerds know him.
But he is not as well known as R. Mitchell, Willy Messerschmitt, Jack Northrop and Sidney Camm. And I forgot Kelly Johnson...
and here at 1:57 who is inventor? pilot or that who is resting on aircraft?
Theres no doubt. Ed Heinemann knew what he was doing!
Its funny i got the F4d-1 Skyray in war thunder about 7 months ago and couldnt find really any videos of the history of the jet just war thunder gameplay and about a month later you release this. You must be reading my mind.
Looks like a mini Avro Vulcan!
If the development had not been delayed, it would have been interesting how this would have competed against the MIG-15. Are there any gaming portrayals of this type of encounter?
One of my favorite Navy birds.
A tail-less delta wing design was never a great idea as a carrier fighter ! But one off the deck it was quite a hot ship !
All american Delta aircraft are based in the work by Alexander Lippisch, who, as video points, was in Langley during the NACA tests of his DM-1/ L-13, seized after UK-USA attacks to Germany and other European nations.
Just the tailor Roy Scroggs had patented a Delta Wing Planform aircraft before the studies by Alexander Lippisch and CharlesT Jones.
Designed as a successor to the Douglas AD 'Skyraider' by the same designer, Ed Heinemann.
The A-4 ne A4D was the successor to the A-1 ne AD.
Jack Northrop was experimenting with the Delta Wing in the 30's and 40's with his flying wing....
Northrop was just too far ahead of his time is all....
But Northrop got to see his dream become reality when they wheeled him in his wheelchair into a Top Secret hanger to show him the B-2 Spirit shortly before he died....
The proof Jack was right all along....
RIP Jack‼️🇺🇲‼️
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