I think a lot of people panic-bought cards when it became clear that Evolving Skies and earlier sets were going out of print due to rotation. Now that the panic has calmed down, so have the prices.
I think SV needs to keep coming out with good sets and chase cards in order for these SWSH alts to decline a little, these prices still seem crazy, very few cards are comparable
My situation changed. A very avid vintage collector and simply the ones I like. For personal reasons. Not for money or value. I bought a home and that ultimately has halted my collection efforts. Improving my home has taken priority.
@Gengar558 congrats on that man! We got a dream house layout and it's a house from the 70's but the sellers put a new roof, furnace, vinyl wood flooring, and upgraded all the electrical in the house. We just need to put our touch on it. We're grateful. Adjusting to a diff spending habit. Once it's done then I'm buying myself something real special, haha! Cheers 🍻
Damn, I had no idea about subscribing to this channel helping pull rates. Good thing Im a member. I did pull alt Sylveon V from a phanny pack last year
I started getting into Pokemon cards about 6 days ago. Yesterday I went to a Walmart and got a pink loveball pokeball tin that had 3 random boosters inside and one of those was an evolving skies pack with a moonbreon in it; that thing... In a $20 tin...
@@jordand1554 People are grading cards primarily to make money, not for personal collections. The high population of slabbed cards is driven by those looking to flip them for profit rather than by true collectors.
Danny maybe you should leave out the cents when dealing with high-value cards and just read out “149 dollars” it’s a lot of numbers to take in and it would be easier to consume when I’m just listening. Or you could say around $149 👍 thanks
i remember watching your videos 1-2 years ago. i remember every video you mention moonbreon you would say it's coming back down and shouldn't be this expensive due to psa 10 pop.. i think a raw copy was like $500+? now it's the only card in swsh that doesn't drop. high population but it's also highly sought after by millions of collectors. if i have 2 psa 10s and some people have a dozen copies, there's still many people who are left who do not have one, think about it!
Ever since I pulled this from a sleeved booster, it re-sparked my love for collecting cards. Now I'm at 6k raw, wanting to get some graded soon. Great video!!
@@davidanonymous4234 Which is a tiny sample. I'm not saying it'll go to zero but I doubt it'll deliver further returns or at least not substantial ones.
My dream card is Moonbreon PSA GEM MT 10. the first time I saw that card I knew I had to have it. I collect because of the love of pokemon art. The Moonbreon speaks to me. I just know that time is not on my side to acquiring it.
I was opening Evolving Skies. I wasn't pulling crap though. Then I decided to watch a Danny vid, soon as I hit the like button, the next pack I opened, I pulled a moon bunny.
I was going to pull the trigger on the alt art lugia PSA 10 around $350 on ebay. Do you guys (anyone in comments) think its leveled off or would continue to drop? I'm not buying to invest or make money just want a PSA 10 for my PC
I don’t get why someone would submit their old serial to PSA.. 1. It shows PSA messed up and tarnishes their brand. 2. More submissions means the denominator is larger.. making 10s notionally harder to get. 3. Why would a person who got a 10 resubmit? The PSA 10s are accurate unless they are moving back and forth to BGS.
Great content as always. It’s kind of scary that the moonbreon is going up again and I wonder if it will recite the sword and shield craze. I will say this I think the reason why PSA eight and PSA nines are close to the raw copy price if not significantly less maybe it’s identified as the chance to get the 10 is no longer present.
can attest to this logic about like sharing and comment. Bought 36 loose packs of PR and pulled like 4 IRS, 1 SIR, and some decent trainer cards....guy just has the IT factor LOL
When did we stop collecting S&S? If I can't find 151, I go CVS hopping and get their overpriced/ancient products. Got Chilling Reign this week for about $4.40 with 2 Fusion Strikes.
Gotta a feeling the art rares gonna be picking up. There’s just so many Pokémon now with good art works people are gonna realize how great any of them would be in a collection.
I have loved the moonbreon since i first laid eyes on it and held out hoping it would get cheaper but never did i have pulled everything else in the set even 2 raquaza vmax and raquaza v alt arts.....😢 i want that card so bad it hurts
Funny if you just peruse UA-cam you got 10 people saying 10 different things about the behavior of Pokemon if you want the truth nobody knows what they're doing
There are on average 200-500x more PSA 10 modern alt art cards than vintage ex era cards for similar price points for example. Despite modern pull rates being much harder the card is still way easier to obtain when you consider print rates. This is bound for a correction at some point or vintage is due for a huge uproar.
Thanks Danny to compare all the big alt arts throughout SWSH. It makes it clear to me that price wise I'm perfectly fine to buy PSA 9 copies compared to their raw price. Saves alot of shipping/grading cost and time. For sure when you risk it for the PSA 10 biscuit and end up a 9 or lower.
I’d never buy a moonbreon. The population of PSA 10s is way too high for that price, it doesn’t make any sense. The day people decide to sell them. Flood
Do you realize there are millions of collectors who still don’t own one yet??? It’s the modern day base set Charizard. So many people joining the hobby will all dream about owning this Moonbreon
@@BRIANCARRUTHERS I disagree, there’s the Rainbow Charizard from Burning shadows (150/147) that has a population of 820 PSA 10s and it’s going for $2600 ++ at the moment. If you apply the supply to price ratio that moonbreon has, it could reach $20,000+ But because the moonbreon has so much hype at the moment, it’s sky rocketing. But there will be a crash for sure.
@@DrewDill2k I mean… very subjective. Moonbreon is the farthest thing from “the coolest art in Pokémon history” It is very cool, it definitely is way more interesting than the Charizard. But the Burning shadow set was done in such a bad quality with printing that it’s become nearly impossible to get a PSA 10 rainbow charizard gx. I’m talking investment wise, moonbreon doesn’t have any where else to grow, may reach double in the EXTREME situation. Where as the rainbow Charizard gx… that is going to 10X
I am a vintage collector, not interest in the majority of modern CGI garbage pokemon design. These AA cards are beautiful, but you wont see me drop 400 dollars or so on a modern card. I think people dont realize how financially irresponsible doing stupid things like this is. Modern will never be valuable as vintage, cause the rare cards are less available then before to children, product has never been so expensive, pull rates are insulting to anyone with an iq higher than 70, and the art is not really that great like before, too much cgi stuff and bad pokemon design, and too much of sets and stuff being released in general. No time to really enjoy a set like in the 90s and early 2000s...
Idk what circles you run in but getting fewer pulls is worse than getting more pulls. It looks like the next youtube trend will be to say that lower pulls rates have helped the hobby, but as someone who doesn't have tens of thousands of dollars to spend on cards, I can tell you that the pull rates being lower have not made me like the hobby more. In fact I was more interested in opening cards when I had a good chance of getting something. CZ is the perfect example of a set with great pull rates that continues to get reprinted because the demand is still high. We don't need expensive cards to make the hobby fun. Too much focus has been put on money in the hobby which has truly ruined it in a lot of ways, and it's made worse by youtubers harping on it literally every day.
I think a lot of people panic-bought cards when it became clear that Evolving Skies and earlier sets were going out of print due to rotation. Now that the panic has calmed down, so have the prices.
I think SV needs to keep coming out with good sets and chase cards in order for these SWSH alts to decline a little, these prices still seem crazy, very few cards are comparable
A Good Card will Always be Good Card
Tell that to people who bought a graded Rainbow Pikachu early 2021 lol
Danny, Danny, Look at me 0__0 -- Dont forget to breathe
yea dont really like youtubers who really speak like a bullet train
My situation changed. A very avid vintage collector and simply the ones I like. For personal reasons. Not for money or value. I bought a home and that ultimately has halted my collection efforts. Improving my home has taken priority.
In the middle of building a home and yea I haven’t bought much lately either.
@Gengar558 congrats on that man! We got a dream house layout and it's a house from the 70's but the sellers put a new roof, furnace, vinyl wood flooring, and upgraded all the electrical in the house. We just need to put our touch on it. We're grateful. Adjusting to a diff spending habit. Once it's done then I'm buying myself something real special, haha! Cheers 🍻
Same and same. Also Pokemon Pocket around the corner and will take less space in my home 😂😂👍
I feel like this shift in the main collector demographic, exactly what you described, has pushed a lot of the shift in the market. ❤
Damn, I had no idea about subscribing to this channel helping pull rates. Good thing Im a member. I did pull alt Sylveon V from a phanny pack last year
Moonbreon buy has been my best purchase to date. Bought for $185 on your store at the lowest prices shortly after set released!
3:23 love the effort here! Great video as always
I just pulled the Alt art Umbreon Vmax last month from a Walmart mini tin, my 2nd tin I got Arceus V alt art.. Galar Pals finally paid off!
I started getting into Pokemon cards about 6 days ago. Yesterday I went to a Walmart and got a pink loveball pokeball tin that had 3 random boosters inside and one of those was an evolving skies pack with a moonbreon in it; that thing... In a $20 tin...
You overpaid for the tin. Take that back and get your money back. If they won't you can send me the tin and cards and I'll reimburse the $20.
@@_RiseAgainst 😂😂
17,000 Umbreon VMAX cards have been graded so far. That's a lot!
It’s a lot as a real number, but considering every modern era card collector wants one. Not enough to go around (I have 4x PSA 10’s)
@@jordand1554as someone holding 8 I agree
Doesn’t mean anything when a million people want it in a psa 10
millions want it, even outside the hobby.... I think 1k u.s for a psa 10 is cheap when we get to 2029
@@jordand1554 People are grading cards primarily to make money, not for personal collections. The high population of slabbed cards is driven by those looking to flip them for profit rather than by true collectors.
Danny maybe you should leave out the cents when dealing with high-value cards and just read out “149 dollars” it’s a lot of numbers to take in and it would be easier to consume when I’m just listening. Or you could say around $149 👍 thanks
Oh nice you have the graded prices on top! Thanks for that! Your videos are awesome I learn so much thanks!
Awesome Video Danny, Alt Arts are KING‼️💥🔥💯
I remember u, u commented on one of my videos!
Nice video, what about LO and ST.... I interested to see Giratina and Lugia - I am heavy in both cards now
Another great Gem video ❤
Thought 🤔 maybe you would mention Jolteon Vmax, promo. That BANGER 🔥🔥💯 is climbing. The artwork on that, is gorgeous 😍
i remember watching your videos 1-2 years ago. i remember every video you mention moonbreon you would say it's coming back down and shouldn't be this expensive due to psa 10 pop.. i think a raw copy was like $500+? now it's the only card in swsh that doesn't drop. high population but it's also highly sought after by millions of collectors. if i have 2 psa 10s and some people have a dozen copies, there's still many people who are left who do not have one, think about it!
I think the difference between new cards and old school Ex / Lv X cards is so big. I love the older cards!!
Oh man. Plus 50%!!! And just in time to open the Stellar Crown booster box I picked up. Awesome.
Love the channel btw.
And...
Go Pack Go!
Pull rates for me down now I collect only one or two sealed products per released. One day I might go crazy and rip them all
Ever since I pulled this from a sleeved booster, it re-sparked my love for collecting cards. Now I'm at 6k raw, wanting to get some graded soon. Great video!!
Let’s get it Danny! Love to see you feeling better and getting back into running! Love the amount of uploads!
Moony is the Bitcoin of Pokemon. Buy the lows, sell at the highs, rinse and repeat until it blows up in your face.
People been saying that for 3 years
@@davidanonymous4234 Which is a tiny sample. I'm not saying it'll go to zero but I doubt it'll deliver further returns or at least not substantial ones.
My dream card is Moonbreon PSA GEM MT 10. the first time I saw that card I knew I had to have it. I collect because of the love of pokemon art. The Moonbreon speaks to me. I just know that time is not on my side to acquiring it.
That explains, why since becoming a member my pulls have gone thru the roof. 😂😂
A month later and Moonbreon is now going for well over 1.2k.
I have all these alt arts 😅 only missing a few random ones here and there.
what happened to the old video title "Moonbreon to the Moon"?
This explains I pulled the giratina gold from CZ after liking this video
I've bought machamp, aerodactyl and lugia v the past month, found some great prices!
Always conveying a plethora of information in the clearest possible way. S-tier, always S-tier! Love you Phanny!
I was opening Evolving Skies. I wasn't pulling crap though. Then I decided to watch a Danny vid, soon as I hit the like button, the next pack I opened, I pulled a moon bunny.
I was going to pull the trigger on the alt art lugia PSA 10 around $350 on ebay. Do you guys (anyone in comments) think its leveled off or would continue to drop? I'm not buying to invest or make money just want a PSA 10 for my PC
I do believe now would be a good time to buy
Once Pokémon center sells out of Silver Tempest it will take off $330 rn is a good numbern
I don’t get why someone would submit their old serial to PSA..
1. It shows PSA messed up and tarnishes their brand.
2. More submissions means the denominator is larger.. making 10s notionally harder to get.
3. Why would a person who got a 10 resubmit? The PSA 10s are accurate unless they are moving back and forth to BGS.
The Lugia value is absurd. Partly biased as i have it, but i guess if it was a higher hit rate... just a solid art.
Great content as always. It’s kind of scary that the moonbreon is going up again and I wonder if it will recite the sword and shield craze. I will say this I think the reason why PSA eight and PSA nines are close to the raw copy price if not significantly less maybe it’s identified as the chance to get the 10 is no longer present.
can attest to this logic about like sharing and comment. Bought 36 loose packs of PR and pulled like 4 IRS, 1 SIR, and some decent trainer cards....guy just has the IT factor LOL
Just wait until the next Card Party, everything will spike again. Happened right before the last one….just in time. Hmmm 🤔
Danny...do you have a tcgplayer store? I have a ton of store credit there and I want to use it to support you! If so, can you send the direct link?
So glad I picked up my Moonbreon last November before prices went insane!
got my psa 10 for $1300 this past week :(
@@krumbers: I’m paying $1250 this week sucks because I could have bought waaaay earlier but this dang card never dropped enough for me to time it .
I really think cards like moonbreaon if you want it buy a psa 9 if your a collector for the price vs raw
What does he mean with those pop series 5 packs in evolving skies? $400 a piece?
POP series 5 packs are older packs that have just 2 cards In them and a chance at the original gold star umbreon and the gold star espeon.
When did we stop collecting S&S? If I can't find 151, I go CVS hopping and get their overpriced/ancient products. Got Chilling Reign this week for about $4.40 with 2 Fusion Strikes.
I have a psa mewtwo prerelease xy evolutions! I'm thinking of cracking it!
Wow, the info from that wiki! So true. :)
There is a 12% chance I already own a moonbreon.
I attest to the bulbapedia statements. My pulls have been fire since liking all videos 😂
No matter what I do I will never have better pull rates.. still have yet to pull any alt art ever. One of the unluckiest people ever for sure
I knew it would climb back up sooner then later
Thanks for the info danny, hope everyone who bought these cards loves and just isn't looking for the🤑
Did you forget the Giratina?
Been saying for months buy up all the swsh alts. ⬆️ from here!
Happy I now get an increase in pull rates all of a sudden
Love your streams so informative and entertaining.
Boosting by pull rate % with this comment, thanks for the tip, Danny.
I have psa 10 sleeping tyranitar and I have the blaziken i want to get graded
Am I commenting so I will come back with the results if my pulls are better after this
spent 185 on my leafeon vmax 10 back in november & 315 for my blaziken 10. Before all the hype
Like shared followed can’t wait to see increased pull rates!!
Gotta a feeling the art rares gonna be picking up. There’s just so many Pokémon now with good art works people are gonna realize how great any of them would be in a collection.
Charizard v alt will be the next buy out. Super hard pull and super popular Pokémon.
I was laughing my ass off lol great video!
Wait till silver tempest sells out, could pump the S&S back up 15-20% for its next leg up
Fun fact, all of my pokemon pulls happened after I subscribed to Danny Phantump. That wikipedia article is absolutely correct.
Awesome video danny
❤
This card has no risen to dip much, people love the artworks and demand is high
Great video today Danny!!!😊
I like that Machamp card but I still can't believe it's a $120 card.
It’s only because there’s nothing better in the set… 🤷♂️ I snagged one sub $100 just because it’s the “chase”. I’m not particularly fond of it.
I have loved the moonbreon since i first laid eyes on it and held out hoping it would get cheaper but never did i have pulled everything else in the set even 2 raquaza vmax and raquaza v alt arts.....😢 i want that card so bad it hurts
Have you tried saving up?
$1200 for the moon bunny is super adorable … try saving up for a few months and get that grail
Huge shift yes
Huge shift in my bank account
❤
If only it worked like that 😂
Moonbreon will always hold high value
I think ultimately the latias and latios from tag team will become the true grail of modern
I thought something weird was up since subscribeing I keep pulling too much heat 🔥
Moonbreon to the moon!!! 🚀🚀📈📈
Still excellent chase cards!!
Mannnn these scalpers 😂, I mean collectors making it tough to get cards...
Funny if you just peruse UA-cam you got 10 people saying 10 different things about the behavior of Pokemon if you want the truth nobody knows what they're doing
There is a few I’m really glad I bought when I did before card party I bought a bgs 9.5 moonbreaon for 600 and a sleepy dragnite psa10 for 120
Sorry, but i don't have time to leave a comment today.
😂 Danny help me pull the Alt art Gengar 😆😁😄😂
I pulled one still have it also
Hi Danny!
Lmao no negative side effects 😅
What's up brother
Subscribing to Danny Phantump helped me pull a Moonbreon
Let's gooo dannnyyyyy!!!!
Def shift
There are on average 200-500x more PSA 10 modern alt art cards than vintage ex era cards for similar price points for example. Despite modern pull rates being much harder the card is still way easier to obtain when you consider print rates. This is bound for a correction at some point or vintage is due for a huge uproar.
The fire rises
Thanks Danny to compare all the big alt arts throughout SWSH. It makes it clear to me that price wise I'm perfectly fine to buy PSA 9 copies compared to their raw price. Saves alot of shipping/grading cost and time. For sure when you risk it for the PSA 10 biscuit and end up a 9 or lower.
God moonbreon
Writing this comment so I get my bubble mew today
My biggest flex is pulling 3 moonbreons without opening thousands of packs
Pokemon stocks 😅
Shit overpopulated card
That's what's scary about it. It's a common card that's completely reliant on demand.
@@monkey39128 I think UA-camrs and "influencers" had alot to do with it. I don't think growth will last. They are so easy to find
I’d never buy a moonbreon. The population of PSA 10s is way too high for that price, it doesn’t make any sense.
The day people decide to sell them. Flood
Do you realize there are millions of collectors who still don’t own one yet??? It’s the modern day base set Charizard. So many people joining the hobby will all dream about owning this Moonbreon
@@BRIANCARRUTHERS I disagree, there’s the Rainbow Charizard from Burning shadows (150/147) that has a population of 820 PSA 10s and it’s going for $2600 ++ at the moment.
If you apply the supply to price ratio that moonbreon has, it could reach $20,000+
But because the moonbreon has so much hype at the moment, it’s sky rocketing. But there will be a crash for sure.
The rainbow charizard card is mid in terms of design and art compared to moonbreon
@@DrewDill2k I mean… very subjective. Moonbreon is the farthest thing from “the coolest art in Pokémon history”
It is very cool, it definitely is way more interesting than the Charizard. But the Burning shadow set was done in such a bad quality with printing that it’s become nearly impossible to get a PSA 10 rainbow charizard gx.
I’m talking investment wise, moonbreon doesn’t have any where else to grow, may reach double in the EXTREME situation.
Where as the rainbow Charizard gx… that is going to 10X
The demand is mad for the moonbreon
Hey
I am a vintage collector, not interest in the majority of modern CGI garbage pokemon design. These AA cards are beautiful, but you wont see me drop 400 dollars or so on a modern card. I think people dont realize how financially irresponsible doing stupid things like this is. Modern will never be valuable as vintage, cause the rare cards are less available then before to children, product has never been so expensive, pull rates are insulting to anyone with an iq higher than 70, and the art is not really that great like before, too much cgi stuff and bad pokemon design, and too much of sets and stuff being released in general. No time to really enjoy a set like in the 90s and early 2000s...
Idk what circles you run in but getting fewer pulls is worse than getting more pulls. It looks like the next youtube trend will be to say that lower pulls rates have helped the hobby, but as someone who doesn't have tens of thousands of dollars to spend on cards, I can tell you that the pull rates being lower have not made me like the hobby more. In fact I was more interested in opening cards when I had a good chance of getting something. CZ is the perfect example of a set with great pull rates that continues to get reprinted because the demand is still high. We don't need expensive cards to make the hobby fun. Too much focus has been put on money in the hobby which has truly ruined it in a lot of ways, and it's made worse by youtubers harping on it literally every day.
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