I have a 4 cyl SR. It hauls my mountain bikes around super reliably. At the end of the day, it gets you from point a-b. I really like the simplicity of the 4cyl
@@Turtlemilk what kind of truck do you have, itachi anime pic? you probably don’t even have a Toyota lol. GTFO. You play WoW. probably can’t even afford a 4 cyl Tacoma let alone function in the real world.
I went with the 2.7L on my 2021. I chose longevity and reliability over the extra power. It's all in what you want. I am a no frills older man. I don't have a testosterone issue when driving. The 2.7L is fine. Also, I've noticed the gas pedal is more responsive after I've driven it awhile.
I went as basic and reliable as I could get and I haven’t regretted it. If I’m trying to do something aggressive I can always pop the ect on for more acceleration.
I don’t think 278 lb ft. Of torque and 265 hp v6 requires, or qualifies one as needing Testosterone to own. My Dodge Challenger scat pack is more on that wavelength… just saying…
I just bought a new 2022 Tacoma with the 2.7 . The acceleration is much better than years past because they dropped the old 4 speed automatic and replaced it with a 6 speed automatic. Mine is red with the sx package .Love it
In a nutshell, the SX package is pretty much the TRD Sport Pickup with a 4 door or access cab, 6 ft, bed and a V-6 engine. Some of the SX packages are available in 4 wheel drive, although they are difficult to find. I have the 2 wheel drive with a V-6, and it is a fun truck to drive and has plenty of power. It is built to look rugged and with plenty of power. It's nice to drive a truck is which is very difficult to find, and different from the rest. @@jaymoar3561
I went SR 4cyl. Utility package and love it. I’m a cautious driver to begin with so I don’t notice any lack of power. Plus I get maximum payload with this configuration at 1500. I don’t tow but I do haul a lot. I came from a 2000 impala and this taco gets the same city mpg as that plus the interior is like a spaceship compared to what I had (tape deck and cd). It all depends on your situation I guess. I went for reliability above all else. And keep in mind you can mod the bell out of tacos so if you want some fancy feature you can usually easily add it yourself instead of buying a higher trim that has a bunch of extras you don’t want. Just put the bed lights in yourself. Add a front facing camera. Etc. Obviously if you’re an off-roader you’ll want 4x4 and other things you can t do yourself.
My 2018 access cab has the 2.7L and I get an average of 25 mpg. After installing a sprint booster, it accelerates 10 times better than stock. If I use the ECT button, it's much better. The 2.7 gets me where I need to go, pulls my motorcycle on a trailer, and hauls DIY stuff from Lowes. Great truck.
The 4 cyl is quieter and more refined, hence more pleasant to drive overall - if you're not a hurried, aggressive type driver. There's considerable exhaust noise when accelerating hard, but it can be quieted by stuffing fiberglass, rockwool, cotton or 3m Thinsulate insulation in the 1 inch gap between the truck bed and cab back panel. Then the cab becomes real quiet up to 75 MPH. The 4 cyl is also probably Toyotas most durable engine still in production as it can run 500,000 - 1,000,000 miles without losing cylinder compression or becoming an oil burner.
If your not in a hurry 4 banger with 5 speed is the way to go. Love mine. Ask any Toyota mechanic , they seldom see 4 cylinders in the shop and there Super easy to work on.
I’m a handyman and 6 is the minimum for me because lumber tends to come in 8 and 10 feet boards and sheets. With short beds it starts being beyond the bed as much as it is in the bed. And given how fulcrums work it starts to be a pain to secure.
I bought.a 2022 4cylinder Tacoma. I dont use it for towing nor do i load the bed with anything heavy. It averages 22 mpg. Im happy with it. If i want to drive fast i use my 2014 Subaru STI 305 hp. I dont need a tacoma V6.
I bought my Taco in 2015 when the current gen came out, and there were not many to choose from. I drove the 4cyl and the 6cyl but did not notice much difference. I really liked the reduced cost, and proven 4cyl as well as the lack of chrome. I did have to add keyless entry, but I am still very happy, and able to merge onto the highway easily every day. I live in FL and dont haul much so keep that in mind as well. I have no reason to upgrade my Taco any time soon because I still love it!
Can you tell me about 2015 2tr engine because its vvti Is there any problems or anything? Or its still reliable? Like should I get older model that doesn't have vvti? Like 2014 and 13.... or older Or the vvti works great without technology problems Sorry for my bad English
@@chechen_power1jz My understanding was even though it was a new generation, the four cylinder used it proven design that had been used for years before. So I'm sure Tacoma is a few years before or maybe even earlier could have the same engine. I've had a nuisance 2015 but I only have 60k on it. So far. No problems at all.
I had a 2021 SR Utility 2.7 4x4 for my mountain/desert vehicle here in CA, around town at sea level the power was fine but over high elevation passes or high elevation off-roading, the 2.7 really becomes slow. Going up to Mammoth on the 395 I would be foot to the floor trying to maintain 65 mph or so- I know the engine can handle it but living at 5k rpms for a long period of time was annoying. Now my off-road vehicle is a 2018 GX460, great power!
Holy smokes 5kRpms?! I was at most 3500-3800 on mine going up the same area on the 395. Yeah she can definitely handle but I imagine how that could’ve been annoying af. Did you add bigger tires by any chance? I run on LTs 245/75/16 I personally wouldn’t get any tires bigger than 245 on a 4cyl midsize truck.
Yeah people need to do thier own research because for some of us it’s totally fine (flat terrain work truck.) and some people it’s literally unusable (off road mountaineer.) everyone is different.
I have had the Tundra Double Cab LTD, 4.7liter TRD Off-road, All Weather Package truck since 2004 At 19 years old & less than 1,000 miles to go to attain 300,000 odometer miles, it has been a sweetheart truck for me. My average mpg is 15mpg though. Residing here in rural Western Franklin County, Western Massachusetts, I am forced to purchase a new truck this year as, the truck is suffering frame rot, even though it was involved in recent years with the Tundra recall program for the same issue. The frame was sand blasted & re-undercoated at that time, but it has rotted from the inside-out due to the lightening holes that were stamped into the sides of the frame tubes collecting road salt, sand & water over the years. Hopefully Toyota Engineers have found a fix for that genetic flaw. I found your page while researching the Tacoma SR 4 cylinder Access Cab, no "bells & whistles" version which will have A/T, 4 wheel drive & 6' bed. At 73 years of age, I'm past the stigma of longing for luxury models. I just need basic truck transportation now. If I have the same experience with this new model, my plan will be correct. I'm impressed with your page, factual & fluent delivery of speech, filming expertise & factual logic. Keep up the good content.
I have a 2018 Tacoma SR 4x4 with the 2.7. I honestly don't have any complaints. I use it for remote utility work, and it's fine for my needs. It was under $30k out the door new. It's reliable, and I don't have any complaints. I've upgraded suspension, and a few other things.
My current gripe with my 2008 2.7L is the horsepower. The Rav4 with 2.5 has 40+ more HP. I have 250,600 miles on it. All maintenance that I've had done is: new valve cover gasket, plugs, new starter, catalytic converter, and paint the roof due to fading.
I have an older model but with the 2.7L....big difference is that mine is coupled to a 5 speed manual transmission which makes it so much better to drive.
Agreed, I have an 09 and it's kind of entertaining to drive around town, the only time it gets obnoxiously slow is in specific highway speed scenarios.
Thank you so much for reviewing the 4 banger. It is a dog but where I lived in the high asian mountain passes where each turn could be your last those 2.7 are nothing short of extraordinary. I am looking forward to owning one. Funny to think the last Taco ICE will be a 4 banger ;)
I had the 2020 Taco 2.7 4×4 Access Cab long bed. Loved it. Great MPG stock. 23-25+ mpg @50mph. Less at 60-70mph. Great truck IMO.. Just got the 2023 Taco TRD Sport 3.5 4dr short bed. 22-25 @ 60mph (I haven't been faster then 60mph yet. As I'm breaking it in now). Seems less intown but shines on highway. Doesn't need to downshift on highway speeds like the 2.7 did. But less intown driving. If you drive lots of highway I'd suggest 3.5. If you drive in town & very little highway the 2.7 is a winner IMO.... I miss the 2.7. But I drive highway a lot & I'm getting better mpg overall in the 3.5.... Both trucks are awesome. You can't go wrong & trade in on old Toyota at dealership is a win win. I put a lot of miles on the 2.7 & was amazed at the trade in on my new truck. Enjoy your tacoma.... Edit. Lift did NOT change mpg IMO. Bigger tire WILL 100% change it by 2-4+ mpg & it WILL wear out parts. If you do lift. Spend the money & do it RIGHT or pay the price. Don't use spacers. Go with Bilstein 5100 to level out the front & look awesome.. How do I know. I learned the hard way & it cost me $$$ to find out.. Toyota TRD lift is expensive & if you do have it done at dealership they will back you when/if things go bad. Keep in mind. When you do alter factory specs you take chance of wear & tear. Depends on how & where you use it if it's 4 wheel drive. Hope this helps all. Good day
I want the trd lift on my dclb and the dealership said they will do even though it’s not “approved” for my truck. They said it’s because of the rear drive line might cause me problems(vibration) Because it’s a two piece with carrier bearing. I want to know if I put the trd lift at its lowest setting how would my CVs boots wear? I don’t know if it’s worth it I don’t want my parts to wear out to fast
I got the 4 cylinder because my friend who works at the lexus dealer says those v6's are one of the least reliable engines that toyota makes while the 4 cylinders are one of the most reliable engines they make
I think that’s a slight overstatement on the v6. I agree the 2.7 is one of the best, if not the best for durability (i do own one too). However, The 2gr v6 series has had some hiccups here and there, but lives up to the toyota name from my research and experience with them in used cars and trucks.
@@Realistick that’s fair. His perspective is skewed because he’s always fixing them under warranty so he always sees them, but it’s probably because Lexus sells a ton of v6’s and not a lot of the 4 cylinders. Either way the 4 cylinder is considerably more reliable even if the v6 is also decent
I have a 4 door 2.7 liter taco. Love it way more than the v6. It does everything I need it to and it will run 3 times as long as the 6 because its been refined over 16 years to be bullet proof. The 4 cyl was made for the truck to be a workhorse while the 6 was initially made for toyota cars. The old 4.0 liter was the best of the two engines currently offered though and I wish they still offered that
Had the old 4.0 in my 4runner. That engine was perfection in my opinion, but I don’t regret getting my i4. I have the access cab w the 6’4 bed, and I think I’ll maybe eventually give her to my kids. I could’ve used the extra towing capability, but honestly she did fine with around 5k lbs spread across the bed, on my topper, and then probably 2k in the trailer. Fantastic truck
I would have loved to get the 4 cylinder for the reliability and ease of maintenance but for 2023, they did not offer a double cab 4x4 with the 4cylinder. I needed the back seat space so had to get the v6
i know many people with big 400hp v8 trucks that have never used more than 150hp with the way they drive. it would hurt their manhood to buy a 4 banger tho
Lol nah. The 4 banger is absolutely gutless. The V6 is also pretty underpowered in these compared to all of the competition. If all you need is something that’s good off-road and to throw the mountain bikes in the Taco is fine, but it’s an incredibly outdated and underpowered. Not everyone with a full size truck buys one because they have a little pp. They actually need them to be able to handle tasks without gasping for breath lol.
The 4.7v8 is great my old 4x4 tundra TRD gets close to 20.pg diff exhaust and k and n cold air also 32 inch tires will out tow any Tacoma had a Tacoma traded it for old tundra no regrets
I was considering a Ram 1500 or Ford F150 after I had paid off my 2.7 taco but now I’m realizing Ford is getting rid of their 5.0 V8s so I decided I might as well stay with my underpowered little truck and save money.. a 5.0 2023 ford f150 on my neck of the woods easily go for 70k+… lol
Can confirm- I owned the 4 cylinder in a manual and it makes no sense. Half the power with almost the same MPG. I drove through the Rockies and needed 3rd gear on the highway. If you keep your Tacoma for 10 years the V6 costs about an extra $1/day. My next Tacoma will be a 2023 V6 manual.
@@skateinspaceyeah. Reliability is the big selling point of the 4 cylinder. But durability isn’t something most people think about especially on the internet. People review cheap Chinese tools and say they perform almost as good as the expensive name brand stuff but they don’t ever consider the fact that they good stuff will last the rest of your life and the cheap knockoff will be dead in two years. I don’t think most people keep vehicles long enough though care about the 4 banger lasting 39 years and half a million miles. But that’s exactly why I bought it.
One important factor that many don't consider is the size of the truck in relation to engine choice. My standard cab 2013 with 5sp man carries a lot and tows fairly well. Truck only weighs 3300. Going to an access cab would add 500 more lbs that the 4cy has to contend with.
Yeah. Mine is an SR access cab utility package. It’s basically the barest lightest 3rd gen you can get. Although it has the long bed so I guess short bed would be even lighter. Gives me maximum payload. But I loaded up the bed with bricks and didn’t notice any sluggishness from the 4 cylinder driving back home like a normal person.
I only went with the V6 because I had to. I wanted the extra features the TRD models offered and I bought a fully loaded ‘21 Off Road long bed in 2021 and have zero regrets.
Idk why people are so obsessed with the 6 cyl. the 4 cyl is as indestructible and reliable as engines can possibly be and if you're not going to be hauling heavy stuff on a daily basis the 4 cyl is more than enough. you will feel the true cost of the 6 cyl when it goes to the shop...and it will go more often than you think
I got a 2022 MGM Tacoma SR5 V6 RWD in late June. Don’t need an OR or Sport trim. The automatic transmission is fine as long as you know how to drive it. Just let go off the gas pedal and let it smoothly switch gears and you won’t have any issues running at lower RPMs.
I have had exactly zero issues with the transmission. If it wasn’t such a widely discussed problem then I wouldnt have even known about it. I literally don’t have any direct experience with the gear hunting people talk about and I’ve had my truck for a year now. But I’m not an aggressive driver either.
I have the V6 engine with a KDMAXX tune. While the shift points and power are leagues better than stock it’s still very slow. I do have 33 inch tires and a 3 inch lift so if I was on stock configuration I’m sure the truck would be decently quick.
I would go with the simple 4 cylinder. Now the old V6 4.0 was a good engine sold my 2005 Tacoma with 300k on it still drove like it did the day I purchased it new from the dealer.
I have a 2006 4 cylinder, SR5 Tacoma rear wheel drive, with about 89,000 miles. Its a bit slow 0-60, but that is ok. On cross country ski trips I usually have to shift down to 2nd or 3rd gear and am in right line going over mountain passes. However after driving for about 3-4 hours, my highway mpg is 28-32. Why or how do I get this mpg on newer vehicles?
I have the 2022 SR Access Cab with the Utility Delete, 2.7L with auto and 2 wheel drive. I like the 4 banger and it has plenty of power for me, but the throttle response sucks. So I installed a Sprint Booster for $300 and it makes a world of difference. I keep it on Sport 5 level out of 18 settings and it performs quite peppy. The Utility option removes the rear jump seats and also the rear speakers, but I was pleasantly surprised how nice the sound is. My only complaint is the transmission, which has hard shifting both up and down until it warms up. The dealer had to add a bit of fluid and found that it needs to be over 100 degrees to settle down, but couldn't resolve the issue. They have a case number with Toyota so I guess if it gets worse I'm covered.
If Toyota would have put the Camry 4cyl in the Tacoma with more horsepower, I probably would have bought it, but the 159 horsepower is just too low. So my 23 has the 3.5L V6
Toyota should do a version where they recreated their old pre-tacoma trucks. Bare-minimum everything, just need gas, oil and coolant to run. These new vehicles are all reflective of a throw away culture.
3rd gen 2.7 here. Once the engine and then auto trans warm up, it gets way more responsive. I personally am very satisfied with the 4 cylinder naturally aspirated engine's extreme reliability and merely OK hp and torque numbers. It does what I want, and 2WD Tacoma goes 90% of the offroad places I "need" to go. The only thing I would say, is this 2.7L isn't the best for towing stuff. And forget about bolting some 1000lb camper to it. 2.7 WILL tow, it just maybe shouldn't be your first choice, if you intend to tow a lot. I put a 30lb Softopper on mine, and love it. Also, those (overpriced) Michelin LTX highway tires are FANTASTIC on 2wd Tacoma. Been doing a bunch of offroading with these tires, too. I'd like to mention that 4wd has to be maintained, and isn't cheap. I figure, if I don't have it, I don't have to maintain it. Which simplifies my maintenance. I can't tell you Snow People much in that line.
From my experience driving several of the newer ones with the weird Atkinson-otto v6 engine off the line the power is what you'd expect but driving it and accelerating while cruising the transmission gets in the way number one number two it has to downshift one or two times to just maintain speed, I've also noticed this with the 4 cyl Camry as well. The 4 cylinder taco is horrifyingly slow on 0-60 but it seems to pick up speed while driving BETTER than the v6
I think the only time the 4 cyl is dangerous is if you pull out on a higher speed road without it in ect pwr and you dont pin the throttle. After living with one for a year, it’s really quite fine if you can just accept it’s slow. The v6 outperforms it everywhere imo but at highway speeds it can cruise as comfortably as the v6 for sure.
@@Realistick it's nothing unlivable if you don't drive on the highway all the time, but the v6 just seemed annoying and considering my past tramua with transmissions I want a vehicle able to stay in it's highest gear on the highway at all times unless I'm driving up a mountain or something lmao
When the exhaust noise of the 4 cyl is muffled by insulating the gap between the truck bed and cab, the interior becomes luxury car quiet and that's because the 4 cyl is an inherently quiet motor - more so than the V6.
You’re one of the few who knows how to drive it if it’s doing fine. People think that slamming the pedal down will help anything but it’s just stressing the motor out, I ease into the pedal and once it pickups acceleration it’s a doozy!
299k currently on Nissan Frontier V6 with manual 6 speed. No probs so far. Going on really long trip to Alaska next year, plus others. Here debating whether to install new drivetrain or get new Tacoma. 2.7 looks very maintenance friendly. Nissan V6 not simple, but not too bad.
Wanted that bullet proof 4 cylinder, however 4x4 double cab doesn't come with it. Also resale would be crushed in our region. Made most economical, practical sense for v6
I had 2 Xtra Cab's SR5's, a '16 2.7 2WD, and an '18 3.5 4WD. The V6 definitely has better power for towing and mpg. But...i put Nitro 4.88 gears in the 2.7 and towed a 2500lb trailer from CA to WI. I somehow liked the 2WD 2.7 better having that simple {but good looking} light weight truck with the most reliable engine ever, so I loved ringing its neck. Had I done it again, id put the 5.29's in cuz the 4.88s still put 6th gear too high on highway. And also mayb spent the money on the LCE header that lowered the torque curve to 3k rpms instead of 3600. My worst complaint about the 2.7 was with oem gearing it was taxing driving 75mph on the highway. Wind, hills, u had to be paying attention or just leave it in 4th gear.
The 4 cylinder I think goes better with the 5 speed, I had one but traded it for a 6 speed V6 TRD Offroad with all the bells and whistles. Weirdly I think they feel and go about the same but the V6 I feel so disconnected when throttling up to find the bite point of the clutch, the 4 banger just felt different and better to drive with the manual.
I have a 2012 tacoma sr5 2.7 with the 4 speed auto. My honest opinion is it’s awful slow and the truck can’t accelerate enough to save my life. If I had the chance I would trade it for any other truck. On the positive side the engine is stupid bulletproof as I’ve abused the truck multiple times everyday and hasn’t left me stranded. Keeping up with maintenance as usual and I can see it go through 300k easily. Just don’t expect to even pass by a Prius if you’re trying to go faster.
If I get the 2023 Tacoma sr base model but add the V6 would that still have the smart key? I was thinking save some money and go access cab base model but still add the v6 basically.
From my experience, having bought a 4cyl in college because I didn't have the money for the 6cyl, it was fine on flat roads or very sharp corners on hills where speed isn't a factor, but getting up a mountain pass? Hell no! I was in 3rd, sometimes 2nd gear (manual) going up the Grape Vine in California on hwy5. I was in the slow lane with the big rigs. It was horrible. I would never buy, and I recommend no one buy a 4cyl Tacoma unless you have too due to your financial circumstances. In that case it is what it is. But if you have the money, get the 6cyl.
@skateinspace good point. If I lived in Florida or someplace relatively flat I'd agree the 4cyl is fine. It was the mountain passes that were terrible but otherwise it was fine.
All I care about is how long they last. I only tow light stuff like paddleboards and fishing equipment, kayaks. The legendary 2TR-FE 4 banger in my 2022 will last forever since I change the oil a lot. I'll probably get 400,000 miles out of it. screw the turbo's
I have a 2007 5 lug with the 2.7 has 196500 miles extremely reliable but it definitely is lacking in power if you haul a lot of heavy stuff or tow a good bit I'd definitely go for the v6 but hard to beat the 2.7 reliably, cost of repairs and how simple it is to work on
This video made my decision even more difficult to make. I like the idea of the 4 cyl lasting 300k miles but my work commute is 40 minutes with a ton of elevation change in mountains and lots of snow so 4 wheel drive with v6 is a must. im so torn.
They are apparently pretty similar. I have the four cylinder and I get 22 in the suburbs. I can get it into the high twenties if I drive highway in the fifties.
can someone explain how a 4 cylinder is good for a pickup truck? I don't know too much about trucks, but the way I see it, for computer nerds, its like putting a quad core i3 in a 15 inch MacBook Pro
I've got a 1996 Tacoma extended cab w a 2.4, and a 2019 Tacoma crew cab w a 2.7. Both are pretty good engines and work well with the trucks. This winter I towed a 2400 pound pop up camper over 100 miles w the 96' Tacoma and it did it easily. Haven't installed a tow hitch on the 2019 yet. For me, they work great. I work 60 miles away and the 96 is filled w my tools and building materials (has a cap on the back), and a/c cranked up in the hot south, and as long as I can keep it at 65 mph, it will get 30 mpg. The 2019 seems too nice to beat up w my work stuff, but I do haul things w it. We drove it from NC to NY and back again, w a bed full of materials to repair my mom's house, and going around 70 w the a/c on, it got roughly 25 mpg. If you want to tow big things daily, I think the Tacoma, even w a V6, is too small to be efficient doing that. If you tow occasionally (I have a few utility trailers and the camper) and haul stuff in the bed, a Tacoma w a 4 cylinder will work just fine. For years Ford put a 300 ci straight six in a lot of F150s, and they were popular, and I think they were putting lower HP than the 2.7.
I've had both motors in 2 different Tacomas and a 4.0 in another. The 2.7 is bulletproof and performed really well in an 07 I had. I really didn't like the 4.0 in my 2nd gen SR5. While probably rare for a Toyota that motor pinged for octane and sounded like a diesel on 87. Had to feed it super just to shut it up. I dumped it after a year and swore I would not buy another one. 10 years later I caved and bought a 22 TRD Off Rd. Way more refined, a little noisy but typical and not an octane knock. Love it so far. Great mpg on the hwy and V8 mpg local driving. It's not a small truck by any means.
Even the 3.5L is a dog IMO. Rented one in Arizona and it struggled to maintain highway speeds without downshifting constantly. The 4-banger turbo can’t come soon enough.
There isn’t much of a difference in mpg. You actually get worse mpg in a 4 cylinder than the v6 trying to keep up. I had a 2022 Tacoma SR. Returned it a week later n got a sr5 v6 4x2 rwd. Best decision ever.
The only reason you think the 4 cylinder is ok is that you live in flat land! Living in mountains, it’s accurate to say it’s dangerous pulling out in traffic!
I drive '21 sr5 v6. Hands down a back wrecker. I dont expect premium luxury from a Toyota truck but I've never been so uncomfortable in a vehicle of any kind. If & when the market eases up I'm opting for less dependability but a healthy back
The four cylinder is a very reliable engine, but OMG! It is freaking gutless. If you don't tow and live on flat terrain, then the 4 cylinder will be perfectly fine if you're not in a hurry.
Yeah everyone is different and almost everyone cares only about themselves. Even the reasonable people still color thier language with judgmental opinions that apply only if you are just like them. Even you couldn’t resist saying it’s only for people who are not in a hurry. Everyone has to drive one for themselves in thier environment to see how it works for them. Don’t just get other peoples opinions because they are likely nothing like you.
I’m a bit curious if the transmission programming on these has improved in the last few years. I owned a 2017 Tacoma trd sport for about 25k miles. It was a great truck. But the automatic was just plain annoying. It gear-hunted constantly. Make a rolling turn at an intersection and it would downshift, then upshift, then instantly downshift again. I even ended up buying a tune for the truck which really helped, but at the end I was just tired of the behavior. It got traded for a 2018 4Runner which was amazing….the 4.0 and 5spd auto in the 4Runner was just so much more satisfying to drive than the Taco (but the 4Runner was quite a bit more thirsty as well!)
They improved it for 2018 I believe, although it still occasionally hunts for gears and I'm not a big fan of the transmission. I still find myself using ect pwr if i am in a hilly area.
I have a 2022 and I haven’t noticed a single issue. If people weren’t so vocal about it I wouldn’t have even known it was a thing. Literally zero times have I noticed it hunting gears or anything. That’s just my n=1 experience though.
@@mikeatv I peeped at yours. My 4 cylinder is even slower than yours! I think lol. Mine is the 22RE. It is 30+ years old but I love it. Love the 7.5ft bed and the manual trans.
You can just buy one of the other four cylinder manual trucks. Oh wait, there isn't one. In fact the Tacoma with the v6 is the only pick up truck in the US offered with a manual. I'm not counting the Gladiator. You can't put a bed on a Wrangler and call it a truck.
I have a 4 cyl SR. It hauls my mountain bikes around super reliably. At the end of the day, it gets you from point a-b. I really like the simplicity of the 4cyl
How about your groceries ?
Good for you! I have a 2019 4Runner SR5 with the 4.0. Smooth, but we’re all Toyota guys here. 👍🏼👍🏼
@@Turtlemilk what kind of truck do you have, itachi anime pic? you probably don’t even have a Toyota lol. GTFO. You play WoW. probably can’t even afford a 4 cyl Tacoma let alone function in the real world.
@@Turtlemilk i don’t think he was talking about you?
hows the mpgs?
I went with the 2.7L on my 2021. I chose longevity and reliability over the extra power. It's all in what you want. I am a no frills older man. I don't have a testosterone issue when driving. The 2.7L is fine. Also, I've noticed the gas pedal is more responsive after I've driven it awhile.
All you need nothing you don't, simplicity works.
I went as basic and reliable as I could get and I haven’t regretted it. If I’m trying to do something aggressive I can always pop the ect on for more acceleration.
@@CarlYotaregearing and adding bigger tires is awesome with the 4 cylinder
hassssc! so do i as long as it goes 75 mph i’m fine with it
I don’t think 278 lb ft. Of torque and 265 hp v6 requires, or qualifies one as needing Testosterone to own. My Dodge Challenger scat pack is more on that wavelength… just saying…
I just bought a new 2022 Tacoma with the 2.7 . The acceleration is much better than years past because they dropped the old 4 speed automatic and replaced it with a 6 speed automatic. Mine is red with the sx package .Love it
What’s the sx package come with?
@@jaymoar3561 Some black badging is about all.
@@jaymoar3561 Black aluminum wheel upgrade is about the only thing in the SX package that isn't purely cosmetic or badging.
In a nutshell, the SX package is pretty much the TRD Sport Pickup with a 4 door or access cab, 6 ft, bed and a V-6 engine. Some of the SX packages are available in 4 wheel drive, although they are difficult to find. I have the 2 wheel drive with a V-6, and it is a fun truck to drive and has plenty of power. It is built to look rugged and with plenty of power. It's nice to drive a truck is which is very difficult to find, and different from the rest. @@jaymoar3561
The old one was 5 speed.
I went SR 4cyl. Utility package and love it. I’m a cautious driver to begin with so I don’t notice any lack of power. Plus I get maximum payload with this configuration at 1500. I don’t tow but I do haul a lot.
I came from a 2000 impala and this taco gets the same city mpg as that plus the interior is like a spaceship compared to what I had (tape deck and cd). It all depends on your situation I guess.
I went for reliability above all else. And keep in mind you can mod the bell out of tacos so if you want some fancy feature you can usually easily add it yourself instead of buying a higher trim that has a bunch of extras you don’t want. Just put the bed lights in yourself. Add a front facing camera. Etc.
Obviously if you’re an off-roader you’ll want 4x4 and other things you can t do yourself.
Your common sense approach and clear explanations are golden. Great review, Tyler!
I appreciate that!
My 2018 access cab has the 2.7L and I get an average of 25 mpg. After installing a sprint booster, it accelerates 10 times better than stock. If I use the ECT button, it's much better. The 2.7 gets me where I need to go, pulls my motorcycle on a trailer, and hauls DIY stuff from Lowes. Great truck.
The 4 cyl is quieter and more refined, hence more pleasant to drive overall - if you're not a hurried, aggressive type driver. There's considerable exhaust noise when accelerating hard, but it can be quieted by stuffing fiberglass, rockwool, cotton or 3m Thinsulate insulation in the 1 inch gap between the truck bed and cab back panel. Then the cab becomes real quiet up to 75 MPH. The 4 cyl is also probably Toyotas most durable engine still in production as it can run 500,000 - 1,000,000 miles without losing cylinder compression or becoming an oil burner.
More refined than the v6? Ummm...no. that motor is ancient. The v6 isnt. And it's a 4cyl...4cyls are no where near as refined as a v6.
@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN The Tacoma V6 is as noisy as a diesel: ua-cam.com/video/zIDELVz4cv0/v-deo.html
@@4af I own one dude. They are no where as noisy as a diesel, that is crazy talk. They sound like a sewing machine though.
Nopeee stop it lmaoo you shoulda got the V6 !
V6 or nothing it’s a truck you need power
If your not in a hurry 4 banger with 5 speed is the way to go. Love mine. Ask any Toyota mechanic , they seldom see 4 cylinders in the shop and there Super easy to work on.
and that is precisely why I have one of these.
I have a 2016 SR5. One of the biggest reasons I got it over another model. Is the 6 foot box. Anything less than a 6 foot is a pain in my opinion.
I’m a handyman and 6 is the minimum for me because lumber tends to come in 8 and 10 feet boards and sheets. With short beds it starts being beyond the bed as much as it is in the bed. And given how fulcrums work it starts to be a pain to secure.
I bought.a 2022 4cylinder Tacoma. I dont use it for towing nor do i load the bed with anything heavy. It averages 22 mpg. Im happy with it.
If i want to drive fast i use my 2014 Subaru STI 305 hp.
I dont need a tacoma V6.
I bought my Taco in 2015 when the current gen came out, and there were not many to choose from. I drove the 4cyl and the 6cyl but did not notice much difference. I really liked the reduced cost, and proven 4cyl as well as the lack of chrome. I did have to add keyless entry, but I am still very happy, and able to merge onto the highway easily every day. I live in FL and dont haul much so keep that in mind as well. I have no reason to upgrade my Taco any time soon because I still love it!
Can you tell me about 2015 2tr engine because its vvti
Is there any problems or anything? Or its still reliable? Like should I get older model that doesn't have vvti? Like 2014 and 13.... or older
Or the vvti works great without technology problems
Sorry for my bad English
@@chechen_power1jz My understanding was even though it was a new generation, the four cylinder used it proven design that had been used for years before. So I'm sure Tacoma is a few years before or maybe even earlier could have the same engine. I've had a nuisance 2015 but I only have 60k on it. So far. No problems at all.
@@ryanoc333 thank you may God bless you both
The 2.7 L has an IRON BLOCK! That in itself is worth its weight in gold (metaphorically…bc iron does not = gold ;) But I’ve got the v6 :)
I had a 2021 SR Utility 2.7 4x4 for my mountain/desert vehicle here in CA, around town at sea level the power was fine but over high elevation passes or high elevation off-roading, the 2.7 really becomes slow. Going up to Mammoth on the 395 I would be foot to the floor trying to maintain 65 mph or so- I know the engine can handle it but living at 5k rpms for a long period of time was annoying. Now my off-road vehicle is a 2018 GX460, great power!
Holy smokes 5kRpms?! I was at most 3500-3800 on mine going up the same area on the 395. Yeah she can definitely handle but I imagine how that could’ve been annoying af. Did you add bigger tires by any chance? I run on LTs 245/75/16
I personally wouldn’t get any tires bigger than 245 on a 4cyl midsize truck.
@@johnappleseed9290 I had Toyo A/T III 245/75/16, great tire.
Yeah people need to do thier own research because for some of us it’s totally fine (flat terrain work truck.) and some people it’s literally unusable (off road mountaineer.) everyone is different.
I have had the Tundra Double Cab LTD, 4.7liter TRD Off-road, All Weather Package truck since 2004 At 19 years old & less than 1,000 miles to go to attain 300,000 odometer miles, it has been a sweetheart truck for me. My average mpg is 15mpg though. Residing here in rural Western Franklin County, Western Massachusetts, I am forced to purchase a new truck this year as, the truck is suffering frame rot, even though it was involved in recent years with the Tundra recall program for the same issue. The frame was sand blasted & re-undercoated at that time, but it has rotted from the inside-out due to the lightening holes that were stamped into the sides of the frame tubes collecting road salt, sand & water over the years. Hopefully Toyota Engineers have found a fix for that genetic flaw. I found your page while researching the Tacoma SR 4 cylinder Access Cab, no "bells & whistles" version which will have A/T, 4 wheel drive & 6' bed. At 73 years of age, I'm past the stigma of longing for luxury models. I just need basic truck transportation now. If I have the same experience with this new model, my plan will be correct. I'm impressed with your page, factual & fluent delivery of speech, filming expertise & factual logic. Keep up the good content.
I have a 2018 Tacoma SR 4x4 with the 2.7. I honestly don't have any complaints. I use it for remote utility work, and it's fine for my needs. It was under $30k out the door new. It's reliable, and I don't have any complaints. I've upgraded suspension, and a few other things.
I have a 2003 2.7 with 236000 on the ticker! Not a problem, one radiator and air conditioner compressor. Luv my toy!
I wish they still offered the manual with the 4-cylinder as I would buy one in a heartbeat.
they did...
They did brother
I just bought a 2023 toyota tacoma 4cyl great little truck love it.
Best video comparison of these two trucks! I have the 4 and so far so good.
My current gripe with my 2008 2.7L is the horsepower. The Rav4 with 2.5 has 40+ more HP. I have 250,600 miles on it. All maintenance that I've had done is: new valve cover gasket, plugs, new starter, catalytic converter, and paint the roof due to fading.
I have an older model but with the 2.7L....big difference is that mine is coupled to a 5 speed manual transmission which makes it so much better to drive.
Agreed, I have an 09 and it's kind of entertaining to drive around town, the only time it gets obnoxiously slow is in specific highway speed scenarios.
Lucky you. I found out 2018/9 was the last year of the 4-cylinder & manual combo.
I purchase a 2018 sr5 limited sport 4x4 v6 and I love it. Extended cab and long box Inferno Orange.
Thank you so much for reviewing the 4 banger. It is a dog but where I lived in the high asian mountain passes where each turn could be your last those 2.7 are nothing short of extraordinary. I am looking forward to owning one. Funny to think the last Taco ICE will be a 4 banger ;)
I had the 2020 Taco 2.7 4×4 Access Cab long bed. Loved it. Great MPG stock. 23-25+ mpg @50mph. Less at 60-70mph. Great truck IMO..
Just got the 2023 Taco TRD Sport 3.5 4dr short bed. 22-25 @ 60mph (I haven't been faster then 60mph yet. As I'm breaking it in now). Seems less intown but shines on highway. Doesn't need to downshift on highway speeds like the 2.7 did. But less intown driving. If you drive lots of highway I'd suggest 3.5. If you drive in town & very little highway the 2.7 is a winner IMO.... I miss the 2.7. But I drive highway a lot & I'm getting better mpg overall in the 3.5.... Both trucks are awesome. You can't go wrong & trade in on old Toyota at dealership is a win win. I put a lot of miles on the 2.7 & was amazed at the trade in on my new truck. Enjoy your tacoma.... Edit. Lift did NOT change mpg IMO. Bigger tire WILL 100% change it by 2-4+ mpg & it WILL wear out parts. If you do lift. Spend the money & do it RIGHT or pay the price. Don't use spacers. Go with Bilstein 5100 to level out the front & look awesome.. How do I know. I learned the hard way & it cost me $$$ to find out.. Toyota TRD lift is expensive & if you do have it done at dealership they will back you when/if things go bad. Keep in mind. When you do alter factory specs you take chance of wear & tear. Depends on how & where you use it if it's 4 wheel drive. Hope this helps all. Good day
I want the trd lift on my dclb and the dealership said they will do even though it’s not “approved” for my truck. They said it’s because of the rear drive line might cause me problems(vibration) Because it’s a two piece with carrier bearing.
I want to know if I put the trd lift at its lowest setting how would my CVs boots wear? I don’t know if it’s worth it I don’t want my parts to wear out to fast
I got the 4 cylinder because my friend who works at the lexus dealer says those v6's are one of the least reliable engines that toyota makes while the 4 cylinders are one of the most reliable engines they make
I think that’s a slight overstatement on the v6. I agree the 2.7 is one of the best, if not the best for durability (i do own one too). However, The 2gr v6 series has had some hiccups here and there, but lives up to the toyota name from my research and experience with them in used cars and trucks.
@@Realistick that’s fair. His perspective is skewed because he’s always fixing them under warranty so he always sees them, but it’s probably because Lexus sells a ton of v6’s and not a lot of the 4 cylinders. Either way the 4 cylinder is considerably more reliable even if the v6 is also decent
I have a 4 door 2.7 liter taco. Love it way more than the v6. It does everything I need it to and it will run 3 times as long as the 6 because its been refined over 16 years to be bullet proof. The 4 cyl was made for the truck to be a workhorse while the 6 was initially made for toyota cars. The old 4.0 liter was the best of the two engines currently offered though and I wish they still offered that
Very true. Only thing is with the 4 you get smaller tires. And if you put the v6 tire on it’s slower than ever
Had the old 4.0 in my 4runner. That engine was perfection in my opinion, but I don’t regret getting my i4. I have the access cab w the 6’4 bed, and I think I’ll maybe eventually give her to my kids.
I could’ve used the extra towing capability, but honestly she did fine with around 5k lbs spread across the bed, on my topper, and then probably 2k in the trailer.
Fantastic truck
@@oldmanmike4995brother what year of 2.7 engine you consider the best (Less problems )
Excellent video. As someone who knows nothing about engines, this gave me the info I needed.
I would have loved to get the 4 cylinder for the reliability and ease of maintenance but for 2023, they did not offer a double cab 4x4 with the 4cylinder. I needed the back seat space so had to get the v6
The 2.7 is a workhorse engine. I'd like one with a manual
the 3rd gen 2.7 came with a 5 speed
i know many people with big 400hp v8 trucks that have never used more than 150hp with the way they drive. it would hurt their manhood to buy a 4 banger tho
Lol nah. The 4 banger is absolutely gutless. The V6 is also pretty underpowered in these compared to all of the competition. If all you need is something that’s good off-road and to throw the mountain bikes in the Taco is fine, but it’s an incredibly outdated and underpowered. Not everyone with a full size truck buys one because they have a little pp. They actually need them to be able to handle tasks without gasping for breath lol.
The 4.7v8 is great my old 4x4 tundra TRD gets close to 20.pg diff exhaust and k and n cold air also 32 inch tires will out tow any Tacoma had a Tacoma traded it for old tundra no regrets
I was considering a Ram 1500 or Ford F150 after I had paid off my 2.7 taco but now I’m realizing Ford is getting rid of their 5.0 V8s so I decided I might as well stay with my underpowered little truck and save money.. a 5.0 2023 ford f150 on my neck of the woods easily go for 70k+… lol
Can confirm- I owned the 4 cylinder in a manual and it makes no sense. Half the power with almost the same MPG. I drove through the Rockies and needed 3rd gear on the highway. If you keep your Tacoma for 10 years the V6 costs about an extra $1/day. My next Tacoma will be a 2023 V6 manual.
your v6 will break sooner tho. time has already told us the 2.7 is more reliable but both are great anyway
@@skateinspaceyeah. Reliability is the big selling point of the 4 cylinder. But durability isn’t something most people think about especially on the internet. People review cheap Chinese tools and say they perform almost as good as the expensive name brand stuff but they don’t ever consider the fact that they good stuff will last the rest of your life and the cheap knockoff will be dead in two years.
I don’t think most people keep vehicles long enough though care about the 4 banger lasting 39 years and half a million miles. But that’s exactly why I bought it.
One important factor that many don't consider is the size of the truck in relation to engine choice. My standard cab 2013 with 5sp man carries a lot and tows fairly well. Truck only weighs 3300. Going to an access cab would add 500 more lbs that the 4cy has to contend with.
Yeah. Mine is an SR access cab utility package. It’s basically the barest lightest 3rd gen you can get. Although it has the long bed so I guess short bed would be even lighter. Gives me maximum payload.
But I loaded up the bed with bricks and didn’t notice any sluggishness from the 4 cylinder driving back home like a normal person.
@@CarlYota Sounds like a good truck Carl
@@CarlYota Had the same configuration and think the sticker on door said 3400lbs. And yeah, adding 4x4 and double cab would throw 600lbs on it.
I only went with the V6 because I had to. I wanted the extra features the TRD models offered and I bought a fully loaded ‘21 Off Road long bed in 2021 and have zero regrets.
Idk why people are so obsessed with the 6 cyl. the 4 cyl is as indestructible and reliable as engines can possibly be and if you're not going to be hauling heavy stuff on a daily basis the 4 cyl is more than enough. you will feel the true cost of the 6 cyl when it goes to the shop...and it will go more often than you think
Glad to have found your channel! Thanks as I'm hunting for the new Taco now.
I got a 2022 MGM Tacoma SR5 V6 RWD in late June. Don’t need an OR or Sport trim. The automatic transmission is fine as long as you know how to drive it. Just let go off the gas pedal and let it smoothly switch gears and you won’t have any issues running at lower RPMs.
I have had exactly zero issues with the transmission. If it wasn’t such a widely discussed problem then I wouldnt have even known about it. I literally don’t have any direct experience with the gear hunting people talk about and I’ve had my truck for a year now. But I’m not an aggressive driver either.
I have the V6 engine with a KDMAXX tune. While the shift points and power are leagues better than stock it’s still very slow. I do have 33 inch tires and a 3 inch lift so if I was on stock configuration I’m sure the truck would be decently quick.
I would go with the simple 4 cylinder. Now the old V6 4.0 was a good engine sold my 2005 Tacoma with 300k on it still drove like it did the day I purchased it new from the dealer.
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I have a 2018 SR5 4 cylinder and i love it, just wish i had the 4 door model
That 2.7 is a real truck engine. It was also in the Venza, Highlander and Sienna and also Hiluxes
finally someone who know what they are talking about
I have a 2006 4 cylinder, SR5 Tacoma rear wheel drive, with about 89,000 miles. Its a bit slow 0-60, but that is ok. On cross country ski trips I usually have to shift down to 2nd or 3rd gear and am in right line going over mountain passes. However after driving for about 3-4 hours, my highway mpg is 28-32. Why or how do I get this mpg on newer vehicles?
Great review & solid rep of the 4 banger brother, thanks heaps!! 🤙♥️
I have the 2022 SR Access Cab with the Utility Delete, 2.7L with auto and 2 wheel drive. I like the 4 banger and it has plenty of power for me, but the throttle response sucks. So I installed a Sprint Booster for $300 and it makes a world of difference. I keep it on Sport 5 level out of 18 settings and it performs quite peppy. The Utility option removes the rear jump seats and also the rear speakers, but I was pleasantly surprised how nice the sound is. My only complaint is the transmission, which has hard shifting both up and down until it warms up. The dealer had to add a bit of fluid and found that it needs to be over 100 degrees to settle down, but couldn't resolve the issue. They have a case number with Toyota so I guess if it gets worse I'm covered.
I agree I want the four-cylinder with four-wheel-drive, but I plan to supercharge it with the VT and change Your gear ratios in your differentials
16’ 5spd 2.7L 4cyl I believe the motor will outlive my lifetime
Lucky you. Wish they still offered the 4-cylinder/manual combo
@@J.Young808 not too many 3rd gens with the same combo
If Toyota would have put the Camry 4cyl in the Tacoma with more horsepower, I probably would have bought it, but the 159 horsepower is just too low.
So my 23 has the 3.5L V6
Toyota should do a version where they recreated their old pre-tacoma trucks. Bare-minimum everything, just need gas, oil and coolant to run. These new vehicles are all reflective of a throw away culture.
Be nice if a regular cab 4 cylinder 2WD with a 6 speed manual and a baseline price existed.
My wife and I love our 2021 double cab sr model. Bought it right off the dealers lot with dual climate for $39k out the door with the Covid-19 prices.
39k for the 4 cyl? Or 4x4 v6?
@@jtlegionnaire6310 v6 4x4
3rd gen 2.7 here. Once the engine and then auto trans warm up, it gets way more responsive. I personally am very satisfied with the 4 cylinder naturally aspirated engine's extreme reliability and merely OK hp and torque numbers. It does what I want, and 2WD Tacoma goes 90% of the offroad places I "need" to go.
The only thing I would say, is this 2.7L isn't the best for towing stuff. And forget about bolting some 1000lb camper to it. 2.7 WILL tow, it just maybe shouldn't be your first choice, if you intend to tow a lot.
I put a 30lb Softopper on mine, and love it. Also, those (overpriced) Michelin LTX highway tires are FANTASTIC on 2wd Tacoma. Been doing a bunch of offroading with these tires, too.
I'd like to mention that 4wd has to be maintained, and isn't cheap. I figure, if I don't have it, I don't have to maintain it. Which simplifies my maintenance.
I can't tell you Snow People much in that line.
Awesome video thank you now I know which Toyota to buy
From my experience driving several of the newer ones with the weird Atkinson-otto v6 engine off the line the power is what you'd expect but driving it and accelerating while cruising the transmission gets in the way number one number two it has to downshift one or two times to just maintain speed, I've also noticed this with the 4 cyl Camry as well. The 4 cylinder taco is horrifyingly slow on 0-60 but it seems to pick up speed while driving BETTER than the v6
I think the only time the 4 cyl is dangerous is if you pull out on a higher speed road without it in ect pwr and you dont pin the throttle. After living with one for a year, it’s really quite fine if you can just accept it’s slow. The v6 outperforms it everywhere imo but at highway speeds it can cruise as comfortably as the v6 for sure.
@@Realistick it's nothing unlivable if you don't drive on the highway all the time, but the v6 just seemed annoying and considering my past tramua with transmissions I want a vehicle able to stay in it's highest gear on the highway at all times unless I'm driving up a mountain or something lmao
Push the ECT button it will tighten the shift points at the cost of fuel economy on the 4
I have a 4 banger 22 sr5 and love it. Put am racing 17 inch on venom tires. Everyone loves the look.
I mean trucks aren't meant to work like sports cars they move shit and are supposed to just keep working 4 cylinder for the win
When the exhaust noise of the 4 cyl is muffled by insulating the gap between the truck bed and cab, the interior becomes luxury car quiet and that's because the 4 cyl is an inherently quiet motor - more so than the V6.
I live at high elevation with my 4x4 2.7. It does fine.
You’re one of the few who knows how to drive it if it’s doing fine. People think that slamming the pedal down will help anything but it’s just stressing the motor out, I ease into the pedal and once it pickups acceleration it’s a doozy!
it’s a shame you can’t get the 2.7 with the five speed manual. My 06 has 280k miles still going pretty strong
I personally enjoy automatics in trucks. I think it's super cool you can still get the Corolla with a manual though. That's pretty sweet
299k currently on Nissan Frontier V6 with manual 6 speed. No probs so far. Going on really long trip to Alaska next year, plus others. Here debating whether to install new drivetrain or get new Tacoma. 2.7 looks very maintenance friendly. Nissan V6 not simple, but not too bad.
@@fredflintstone8574 keep the nissan going if the frame is still mint. Those trucks are just as tough.
Wanted that bullet proof 4 cylinder, however 4x4 double cab doesn't come with it. Also resale would be crushed in our region. Made most economical, practical sense for v6
I had 2 Xtra Cab's SR5's, a '16 2.7 2WD, and an '18 3.5 4WD. The V6 definitely has better power for towing and mpg. But...i put Nitro 4.88 gears in the 2.7 and towed a 2500lb trailer from CA to WI. I somehow liked the 2WD 2.7 better having that simple {but good looking} light weight truck with the most reliable engine ever, so I loved ringing its neck. Had I done it again, id put the 5.29's in cuz the 4.88s still put 6th gear too high on highway. And also mayb spent the money on the LCE header that lowered the torque curve to 3k rpms instead of 3600. My worst complaint about the 2.7 was with oem gearing it was taxing driving 75mph on the highway. Wind, hills, u had to be paying attention or just leave it in 4th gear.
The 4 cylinder I think goes better with the 5 speed, I had one but traded it for a 6 speed V6 TRD Offroad with all the bells and whistles. Weirdly I think they feel and go about the same but the V6 I feel so disconnected when throttling up to find the bite point of the clutch, the 4 banger just felt different and better to drive with the manual.
The four cylinder with the 5 speed is surprisingly sufficient though the v6 would make my life a little less stressful on the highway
I cant believe theyre STILL BEHIND! Honda 4 Cylinders CRUSH
I have a 2012 tacoma sr5 2.7 with the 4 speed auto. My honest opinion is it’s awful slow and the truck can’t accelerate enough to save my life. If I had the chance I would trade it for any other truck. On the positive side the engine is stupid bulletproof as I’ve abused the truck multiple times everyday and hasn’t left me stranded. Keeping up with maintenance as usual and I can see it go through 300k easily. Just don’t expect to even pass by a Prius if you’re trying to go faster.
I’m looking for a nice 4x4 truck for the mountains in the Philippines but I’m still doing my work here & there. Thanks 🙏🏼 for the video
If I get the 2023 Tacoma sr base model but add the V6 would that still have the smart key? I was thinking save some money and go access cab base model but still add the v6 basically.
Good video!
From my experience, having bought a 4cyl in college because I didn't have the money for the 6cyl, it was fine on flat roads or very sharp corners on hills where speed isn't a factor, but getting up a mountain pass? Hell no! I was in 3rd, sometimes 2nd gear (manual) going up the Grape Vine in California on hwy5. I was in the slow lane with the big rigs. It was horrible. I would never buy, and I recommend no one buy a 4cyl Tacoma unless you have too due to your financial circumstances. In that case it is what it is. But if you have the money, get the 6cyl.
no one has the same needs as you. the 2.7 is perfectly fine for 90% of people.
@skateinspace good point. If I lived in Florida or someplace relatively flat I'd agree the 4cyl is fine. It was the mountain passes that were terrible but otherwise it was fine.
All I care about is how long they last. I only tow light stuff like paddleboards and fishing equipment, kayaks. The legendary 2TR-FE 4 banger in my 2022 will last forever since I change the oil a lot. I'll probably get 400,000 miles out of it. screw the turbo's
I'm considering a new 4 cylinder Tacoma. I don't have any need for towing might as well save some $$$ and go for the 4 cylinder.
I have the off road with the manual, I love driving it
We've got a 2017 TRD Offroad V6 and the transmission is very annoying and it's a bit small but all else is perfection
I have a 2007 5 lug with the 2.7 has 196500 miles extremely reliable but it definitely is lacking in power if you haul a lot of heavy stuff or tow a good bit I'd definitely go for the v6 but hard to beat the 2.7 reliably, cost of repairs and how simple it is to work on
This video made my decision even more difficult to make. I like the idea of the 4 cyl lasting 300k miles but my work commute is 40 minutes with a ton of elevation change in mountains and lots of snow so 4 wheel drive with v6 is a must. im so torn.
Go v6, at elevation with 4wd, the 4 cylinder would be a big nuisance and the v6 is a good engine too
the 2.7 came with a 5 speed manual FYI
I know, I had one, they stopped that in like 2019ish
tacoma 2009 4 cyls auto 2wd 104000 KMS and i love this little pickup 2,7L 4CYLS, best engin
Is (2005-2014) 2.7 engine better than 2015 ?
I care about less problems...
What’s the gas milage between the two? Is it noticeable?
They are apparently pretty similar. I have the four cylinder and I get 22 in the suburbs. I can get it into the high twenties if I drive highway in the fifties.
i’ll order one fat car max today 2.7 L twenty one thousand mile 2021 model silver i hope i buy it rt ❤❤❤
They should just turbo the 2.7 and put it in the new gen. Reinforce it also of course.
can someone explain how a 4 cylinder is good for a pickup truck? I don't know too much about trucks, but the way I see it, for computer nerds, its like putting a quad core i3 in a 15 inch MacBook Pro
I've got a 1996 Tacoma extended cab w a 2.4, and a 2019 Tacoma crew cab w a 2.7. Both are pretty good engines and work well with the trucks. This winter I towed a 2400 pound pop up camper over 100 miles w the 96' Tacoma and it did it easily. Haven't installed a tow hitch on the 2019 yet. For me, they work great. I work 60 miles away and the 96 is filled w my tools and building materials (has a cap on the back), and a/c cranked up in the hot south, and as long as I can keep it at 65 mph, it will get 30 mpg. The 2019 seems too nice to beat up w my work stuff, but I do haul things w it. We drove it from NC to NY and back again, w a bed full of materials to repair my mom's house, and going around 70 w the a/c on, it got roughly 25 mpg. If you want to tow big things daily, I think the Tacoma, even w a V6, is too small to be efficient doing that. If you tow occasionally (I have a few utility trailers and the camper) and haul stuff in the bed, a Tacoma w a 4 cylinder will work just fine. For years Ford put a 300 ci straight six in a lot of F150s, and they were popular, and I think they were putting lower HP than the 2.7.
I've had both motors in 2 different Tacomas and a 4.0 in another. The 2.7 is bulletproof and performed really well in an 07 I had. I really didn't like the 4.0 in my 2nd gen SR5. While probably rare for a Toyota that motor pinged for octane and sounded like a diesel on 87. Had to feed it super just to shut it up. I dumped it after a year and swore I would not buy another one. 10 years later I caved and bought a 22 TRD Off Rd. Way more refined, a little noisy but typical and not an octane knock. Love it so far. Great mpg on the hwy and V8 mpg local driving. It's not a small truck by any means.
On the fence with the 6 cylinder after reading all the bad reviews about the transmission.
I have a V6, the transmission is fine for daily driving. I don't have any issues with it.
All this talk about comparable gas mileage and all that extra power with the V6. What do you think happens to that mileage when you open it up ?
So no manual option on the 4 cyl?
Nope, killed it off after 2017 I believe :(
@@Realistick Bummer.
In the Pacific NW the 6 holds its value--the 4 drops like a Chevy. Well, almost.
Even the 3.5L is a dog IMO. Rented one in Arizona and it struggled to maintain highway speeds without downshifting constantly. The 4-banger turbo can’t come soon enough.
I just want a 4 cylinder 6MT 4x2
That is the perfect combo. I have a 1993 Toyota Pickup with the 4 cylinder, manual transmission, 2WD and it has 306,000 miles.
I was gonna buy 4cylinder TACOMA
(159HP
180LB TORQUE
...0-60 10.5SEC)
& ITB TURBO TUNE (Individual Throttle Body)...Hoping 2xPOWER:
--318 HP
--360LB TORQUE
--0-60 7.25 SEC
(Of course...2x COOLANT & OIL CAPACITY NEEDED TOO!--DRAG RACING RULE OF THUMB!)
METAL BECOME BENDABLE/WEAK @HOT TEMP...
I have 4 Cyl Slow but good for daily drive and save alot money than v6
There isn’t much of a difference in mpg. You actually get worse mpg in a 4 cylinder than the v6 trying to keep up. I had a 2022 Tacoma SR. Returned it a week later n got a sr5 v6 4x2 rwd. Best decision ever.
You saving like 2 mpg get the V6
@@vincent8823 yup my v6 is awesome
Our local Toyota dealership doesn’t sell any Tacomas for less than $65k. How does anyone buy cars at MSRP these days?
The people that buy them at or below MSRP aren't married to their local dealer like you are.
Damn!! I got DCLB Premium with Predator package loaded with every option available for $52k out the door. Still wasn’t cheap though lol!!
TRD Sport 4x4
The only reason you think the 4 cylinder is ok is that you live in flat land! Living in mountains, it’s accurate to say it’s dangerous pulling out in traffic!
I drive '21 sr5 v6. Hands down a back wrecker. I dont expect premium luxury from a Toyota truck but I've never been so uncomfortable in a vehicle of any kind. If & when the market eases up I'm opting for less dependability but a healthy back
The four cylinder is a very reliable engine, but OMG! It is freaking gutless. If you don't tow and live on flat terrain, then the 4 cylinder will be perfectly fine if you're not in a hurry.
Yeah everyone is different and almost everyone cares only about themselves. Even the reasonable people still color thier language with judgmental opinions that apply only if you are just like them.
Even you couldn’t resist saying it’s only for people who are not in a hurry. Everyone has to drive one for themselves in thier environment to see how it works for them. Don’t just get other peoples opinions because they are likely nothing like you.
If you in the mountains, you out of luck.its for city luving
@@pierlouis7325 Especially the 4-door long bed.
I’m a bit curious if the transmission programming on these has improved in the last few years. I owned a 2017 Tacoma trd sport for about 25k miles. It was a great truck. But the automatic was just plain annoying. It gear-hunted constantly. Make a rolling turn at an intersection and it would downshift, then upshift, then instantly downshift again. I even ended up buying a tune for the truck which really helped, but at the end I was just tired of the behavior. It got traded for a 2018 4Runner which was amazing….the 4.0 and 5spd auto in the 4Runner was just so much more satisfying to drive than the Taco (but the 4Runner was quite a bit more thirsty as well!)
They improved it for 2018 I believe, although it still occasionally hunts for gears and I'm not a big fan of the transmission. I still find myself using ect pwr if i am in a hilly area.
My 21 is perfect
I have a 2022 and I haven’t noticed a single issue. If people weren’t so vocal about it I wouldn’t have even known it was a thing. Literally zero times have I noticed it hunting gears or anything.
That’s just my n=1 experience though.
the V6 is slow but reliability is why i own one
It's fast enough for daily driving. It won't win any races though, but that's ok, it's a light duty truck. I have the V6 and also a 4 cylinder.
@@westcoastplinkin6559
i have both engs also
there adequate and you're right they're good enough
@@mikeatv I peeped at yours. My 4 cylinder is even slower than yours! I think lol. Mine is the 22RE. It is 30+ years old but I love it. Love the 7.5ft bed and the manual trans.
I like to talk about manual transmission and complain that companies don't offer it but I would never actually buy it
That's unfortunate for you 🥴
No manual transmission on 4 cylinders. Not buying...........................
It's too heavy to accelerate with a manual.
don’t lie, you were never gonna buy a new one either way
You can just buy one of the other four cylinder manual trucks. Oh wait, there isn't one. In fact the Tacoma with the v6 is the only pick up truck in the US offered with a manual. I'm not counting the Gladiator. You can't put a bed on a Wrangler and call it a truck.
Around most of the world Toyota pickup trucks are 4 cylinder
If going petrol. 4 cyl..otherwise go diesel
My Civic from 06 has 150 HP at 2,800 lbs, that Tacoma has 159 HP with 3,915 lbs oooof! 😂
The difference is the Tacoma can do everything the Civic can do. But the Civic cannot do everything the Tacoma can do.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 I know, if the Tacoma had the same MPG as the civic and still lasted 400k miles it would be the perfect vehicle 👌
Why people want faster cars??? They don’t even know to drive , drive slow cause they too busy texting and driving, so why?
Me gusta toyota tacoma para mi papa y Abuela