Herald of the Titans 2-man
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Splosion and I finally got Algalon down. We had several tries before patch 5.2 but because I couldn't play wow for much until 5.2 we didn't have many more tries that patch. We did however decide to try it again last night and after a few wipes we got it down. An estimation of total wipes we had to endure, probably around 20-30 wipes. The gear used was fulfilling the criteria and requirements for the Herald of the Titans Feat of Strength, which means highest allowed ilvl on gear is 226 and 232 on weapons.
As far as we know, this is as far as you can go with doing Herald of the Titans. Doing it solo would require an immense amount of dps to counteract the phasing from phase punch. We did total around 34k raid dps. Required dps was around 28k to beat the enrage. We had nearly 40 seconds left until he would enrage. Talk about a real buff since Ulduar to classes, especially paladins.
I am aware that I did a lot of mistakes in this try, including not using Avenging Wrath properly and failing to Cosmic Smash. I blame a long term of not playing the game.
Here are some links to our character and also to Splosion's channel where you can check out his version of this video.
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Algalon 10-man, Herald of the Titans.
Patch 5.2
Music: Fake Awake - Andy Moor
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Thanks for watching!
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my respect to you doing this with 2 man. we plan to do it with 10 persons in the near future so the title goes to as many players as possible.
and respect on doing around 20k dps on that gear cause i am only able to do about 42k normal damage on my 500 equipped 90 ret mainchar
The title is still in-game and is still obtainable as long as you meet the requirements for the achievement. For example, being level 80 is a must and always wear the correct gear throughout the fight. Hope that answered your question :)
I believe this has been tested and the answer would be no since the item lvl is >226/232 which makes the criteria for the achievement fail, even during the fight.
Thanks for your comment! The music in this video is by Andy Moor. It's the original mix of Fake Awake which I can link for in UA-cam: /watch?v=OaWKmFnDwbo
The reason the music in this video is a bit different compared to the original mix is because I sped this one up a bit to match the length of the video better than it would otherwise. :)
Nice vid and great choice of music.
Insane, currently leveling/gearing up with some friends to do the achievement. Inspiring video ^^
That's correct, not entirely Best in Slot but really close. Sorry for not clarifying that in the description.
hey. nice video and awesome plays. Im trying to do this with a friend... do you have a list for bis items for prot pallies, talent choices and tactics aka at how many stacks to switch ? Would help us alot. Thanks
That is weird, I didn't delete it since I had no reason to. That is very weird. Hope you found the correct version of the song and again, thank you very much!
Off-hand shields are also permitted to be used for tanks.
how did you scale your sacred shield to 16k absorbs? Im playing on a 5.4.8 privat server and my sacred shield just absorbs around 1.5k
The name of the secret is vengence. The harder something hit you the more you get the higher the absorb shield given by the SS. It scales with vengence.
so, this is 2 prot pally's both lvl 80 with 226 gear correct?
it's a 232 weapon only...not 232 armour or trinks, everything else should be 226 or lower apart from the weapon...offhand can be 232 aswell for casters.
So since Chardev doesn't exist anymore, does anyone know where I can find a BIS list for Prot Paladins? E.G Gems, Enchants and of cause the gear.
So I asked Splosion if he had a BiS list dusting around somewhere and luckily he did. The only thing about this build, which he created himself, is that he put dps trinkets for a speed kill we did a few months ago. Of course, it's up to you which trinkets you want to use. Good luck!
www.wowhead.com/list=2476946/herald-prot#1-herald-prot-2
simcity92 Wow, thanks alot!:)
Can I theoretically come to Ulduar with a friend Lv 100 and me being 80 and clear everything with him. Then right before we start the Algalon fight he leaves my group, I pull him and he instantly kills him...could that work?
As far as I understand how this achievement works, is that it checks every player that is attacking the boss if it has the appropriate ilvl and level, which then gets awarded it the criteria is met. So, in that case, your theory wouldn't work, but you could always try if you really want to :)
Well, i will try it no matter what...for science purposes of course ;)
Is 2-man herald still possible in 7.0.3?
After some deliberation and comparison with old and new stats, we've concluded that it's impossible at this current state to be able to 2-man Herald. The biggest reason is because the classes have changed so much since then. As paladins we've lost A LOT of our defensive stats and some abilities, like Guardian of Ancient Kings have been removed. But most importantly is the removal of Vengeance, which at the time was the only way to be able get enough dps to beat the enrage timer of the boss... Unfortunately Blizzard seems to enjoy to ruin everything else that isn't related to end-game. Which is a shame, but oh well... Fun things doesn't last forever :)
Hey are u willing to sell boost for the title i cba gearing for herald can get u gold or what ever u maybe wud want
Is it possible to solo as lvl80 destro lock?
It unfortunately wasn't possible to solo Herald before the patch and most likely isn't after 6.0 either. If anything, the stat-squish made it even worse since the dps dropped for all classes, especially 80's was affected. If I recall correctly they nerfed the melee damage Algalon does, so maybe you could give it a try and tank it with your pet. But even then you need to be able to push out a lot of dps to beat the enrage. Let me know if you do succeed though ;)
Can you use a 409 weapon for Algalon and switch back to a 232 before the kill?
Do you think this is still doable in 5.4?
To 2-man it you mean? Yes, we've tried it a few times. The survivability is almost the same as it used to be, only slighty more healing required. The main issue we've had is being able to beat the enrage timer since our DPS, as prot paladins, have dropped quite a bit since 5.2/5.3. I'm currently the bottleneck with not having full-BiS gear. Eventhough my gear is very close to BiS, we still need as much DPS as we can get, to be able to kill him in time. Thanks for the comment.
If you meant getting Herald of the Titans in 5.4, then yes. It's still possible as long as you meet the requirements. I was helping with a kill just a few weeks ago! :)
simcity92 As I thought, the main issue is the DPS requirement because Blizzard nerf vengeance. But your post is unclear, did you manage to 2-man this achievement it in 5.4 or not?
Tomatevousnique
Sorry that I was unclear on that note. Regarding the 2-man - We still have not killed it. Although, we've only had about five tries at it in 5.4 totally, enough to give us the information and data we need. We're going to wait till I get BiS gear until next time we go and try it again. I'll update if we do manage to kill it this patch, depending on how much time is left until next expansion.
Tomatevousnique With much closer to BiS and more aggressive DPS gearing it's possible. Skirting the survivability requirement much more than this kill though.
simcity92 Thanks for your answers. I've start to gear my level 80 pala and we will try to do it with a friend. I will keep you inform if we manage to 2-man the fight.
Since blizzard nerf the enchant in 5.4(massive scale down on low lvl characters), I'm assuming LW and Alchemy is not the best professions anymore, maybe BS and JW(gives about 40stats/60stam/80 secondary stats)?
Anyway, I'm trying to 2-man this with my friend and we just hit 80 this week and start to getting gear on the bis list splosion posted on twinkinfo.
chardev.org/profile/16699-Prot-Herald-haste.html
Is that still the bis or there are some better alternatives? Maybe update on the twinkinfo pls!
Yes, the nerfs have impacted the twink bracket quite a lot, for example, the DPS output from prot paladins has been nerfed(vengeance) quite badly, which require more effort in the fight overall. Your assumptions about the professions are most likely correct. I've notified Splosion about the twinkinfo thing. He's quite busy at the moment but will tend to it whenever he has time again. Most of his chardev is still pretty correct, I think he might be using different trinkets now though.
Good luck with the 2-manning and let us know if you do kill it! :)
I'll update the Chardev as best I can (it doesn't recognise the gem changes afaik so the stats will look wrong). Although that is very close to what I'm currently using (Mjolnir isn't so great with the haste buffs, and obviously some enchants have changed). Profs are right though, JWC>BS>else. JWC gives 84 haste or 81 stamina (epic gems are only 24 stam atm), and BS gives 80 haste or 48 stamina. The other professions are semi-ok, would recommend the above for now. DPS is down a bit, but if you have BiS gear + bloodlust drums it's not all bad, just waaaay tighter on the enrage now ;)
Mastertarus
Thank you both for replying! This really helps me a lot. Been running ulduar 25man for 2 weeks and getting almost full set of 226/232, no way near BiS tho. Just found out 2 of my guildies want to do this achiv too and they are bringing in a hunter and a feral tank(other pally tank will switch to a disc priest), any thoughts on gearing those three classes(going full stam or agi on bear, what spec is best for herald hunter, reforge and gemming etc.)? Also, which lvl75 talent is better for pally tank? I saw u used different ones on 2-man and 3-man videos. What about switching to stam trinkets for more vengeance(30% maximum health in 10man i guess this is not nearly worth it)? I'll definitely try 2-man later when both pally tanks are in almost if not all BiS gear.
Probably best to have the bear go resto and the other guy come back to paladin. I've done a run in 226 gear as a bear (72% armor, and stacking crit), and I had to have virtually all cds available for tank swaps, whereas paladins need virtually nothing but support healing. I'd guess MM is best for herald, but Survival is likely close. As for talents, eternal flame is silly strong with decent vengeance and haste, just due to the high base healing at 80. Regarding vengeance, I already did try the switch, but those caps were never implemented (as far as I know anyway). Even so, you need enough hp to survive big bang with only SotR (and minimal mastery), since you need them elsewhere.
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42k at 500 ilvl? LOL are you pushing 1 button every 5 seconds?
no acheive popped...
derp
This is because we had already done the achievement long before we could 2-man it. The proof is both of our videos where we display our gear and none of them exceeds past the required ilvl for the achievement. We have no reason to "cheat" since we've always tried to push our limits when it comes to 2-manning. It wouldn't be upload-worthy if it wasn't.
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