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The MASSIVE Sinking Models From TITANIC (1997)
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In 1997 James Cameron's epic movie made use of a whole suite of techniques to help bring the ship to life. Perhaps most impressive of all were the massive scale models of the ship in 1/4, 1/6, 1/8 and 1/20 scales. Some of these models could be rigged to sink just like the real liner did in 1912!
Oceanliner Designs explores the design, construction, engineering and operation of history’s greatest vessels- from Titanic to Queen Mary and from the Empress of Ireland to the Lusitania. Join maritime researcher and illustrator Michael Brady as he tells the stories behind some of history's most famous ocean liners and machines!
0:00 Introduction
0:57 Modelmaking in Titanic
2:12 The Iceberg Model
8:01 Sinking Models
11:38 Breakup Models
13:00 The Final Plunge
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You honestly couldn't ever get more attractive. Wow. Stunning
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I wish LUSITANIA was going to be made into a Hollywood movie, and I wish I could see a miniature model of RMS LUSITANIA as well!
Awesome 😎
That shot of the propellers rising out of the water with the lifeboats in front for scale fills me with panic. James Cameron is brilliant
Yeah and add the sound effect to that
Right, and watching it actually felt so terrifying
That scene of the hull getting creased by the berg on the inside and causing the incredible moving water spray through in a straight line across the hull beams was a depiction I had wondered about but I had no idea THAT would be included in the movie. AND I always wondered how they did THAT. Thanks for including it!
The propellers were In the wrong position
Ok I thought I was the only one who felt panic from that scene it’s not only me
Titanic is one of the greatest practical movies in cinema history. I absolutely loved the effects and it looked like you were literally watching the sinking take place right in front of you.
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It's a feat of production that has yet to be matched in the modern era. It's also proof that you can do infinitely more by augmenting real sets with CGI than doing it all on a green screen.
It's genuinely amazing how well it all holds up so many years later. There's really not much to complain about from an effects standpoint, even the 1997 CGI. Still looks incredible
The 90s were the best time for visual effects. The perfect blend of miniatures, some CGI and practical large sets and as Cameron said never use the same trick twice.
The 1990-2000 era of cinema blockbusters were the best balance of practical effects with the _aid_ of computers.
I think even if only models, practical effects, and old film tricks were used it provides far more character to the film than if only digital effects and animation were employed.
Edit: LOTR was post 2000ish, but was probably the last of films with that perfect balance.
Jurassic Park still looks incredible today, another masterpiece of realism.
Wasnt all of lotr filmed before the year 2000? I might be wrong but i thought all of the filming was finished in 1999
@@ir0n392 Yeah, I mean we're talking loose estimations here
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There were plenty of reshoots for the two sequels after they realised they had the money to spend to correct issues. Had the first one flopped, the other two would likely have been released _as is,_ if at all.
They not only wanted this movie to look realistic, but also to age well. And it did.
I watched this movie on cinema last week and omg looks so fresh, it was very impressive
This is why practical effects and models are way more effective in conveying realism than straight CGI. The latter ages badly while the first is pretty much timeless if done correctly.
I just watched this movie for the first time in adulthood, I watched it as a kid but that was a long time ago, and I was blown away, it felt like it had just been produced in terms of quality and visuals.
@@MikaelLV well a perfect balance of both sets, practical effects and cgi.
Yeah. Titanic aged way better than a lot of movies that came well after it.
The fact they made this set and still is so amazing today. They definitely went all out
And with a fraction of the budget of so many modern movies that look ten times worse!
It's really disappointing that they don't make movies like these anymore
Damn bro I forgor Top Gun Maverick was pure and only CGI
quit wrongly complaining about everything that breathes
@@andym.s.5231 That's one example
@@andym.s.5231 Top Gun Maverick is an exception to today's rule of CGI-only movies. Just look at Marvel movies and see all the worst CGI to ever exist.
Christopher nolan still does.
@@andym.s.5231calm tf down kid
It was a pretty cool show to work on. I was a welder/fiberglasser in the special effects shop that built the life boats and the back portion of the break away ship. I never thought this movie was going to sell but man, was I wrong! Lol. James Cameron is definitely in the top five greatest movie writers/directors of all time.
You’re absolutely right Mike, they really don’t lean into practical effects as much as they used to: seeing everything they did to achieve the shots in the film feels like learning how a master magician pulls off a trick, it’s mind-blowing how many different scaled models were used to convey a single sequence of events from that fateful night.
Can I just say this is one of my favorite channels on this platform? I get so happy when Mike uploads and love to rewatch vids and show them to my friends.
The Raising of the titanic in Raise the titanic is still one of the best in camera sequences of all time, especially if you watch it on the biggest screen and the biggest sound system you can get access to
Oceanliner designs is a major reason why I am now an oceanliner nerd, thanks for the continued content 😊
rest in peace to all that parish that night. We are fascinated by the greatest and largest oceanliner of it’s time, and how magnificent that it was but we must remember all those lives that should have never perish. It was definitely a sad tragedy to never be forgotten.
I remember the moment that the Titanic and oceanliners captured me. I was maybe 6 years old, playing the old Ship simulator with my uncle. We started sailing the Titanic. And he started telling me all about her, world’s largest ship, unsinkable. And how she sank. Really captured my 6 year old mind. Got the book ”Finding the Titanic” By Dr. Ballard from my grandpa. Later they bought me the 100th anniversary Revell model of the Titanic, later built it with my grandpa. Good times
Nice memories 👍
Love these breakdowns. Everything is composited so smoothly in the movie that your brain really does not get time to say 'wait, that's a model'
So many people on the movie comparison videos just go "So much was innaccurate" without doing research.. the fact the crew knew it was a moonless night and had to take the creative liberties while also trying to make it was realistic as possible is a hats off to the crew and James Cameron. Nothing out of disrespect was done to the actual sinking. Do IRL events have to have creative liberties for movie making/consumers? absolutely. But this was a well done movie
Tough break about the funnel going for so much, though I suppose one could always make one. Toyed with the idea of painting one of those 55 gallon steel barrels like a White Star or Cunard funnel and mounting prop whistles and piping detail on it then using a small firebox in the bottom to make smoke and a party fogger for steam effects.
Sometimes I've got way too much time on my hands...
I love all of the enginuity, creativity, improvisation and just invention that was needed to make this movie to achieve James’s vision. Because at that time the technology was not up to par with that vision. they took the existing technology and other movie magic tricks and even making their own to get the shots and make it look 99% real that the 1% would not be noticeable unless you closely scrutinize. It’s part of what makes Jurassic Park and the original Star Wars trilogies great because like James, Steven and George had to uses the existing tech mixed with models, animatronics and making their own solutions to get the job done.
I've always been fascinated by models used in special effects. I had absolutely no idea that SO many were used in this movie. Cameron and the team really went all out. And I also appreciate Cameron's dedication to realism and accuracy, of course artistic license is occasionally needed, like the lighting mentioned for the Iceberg collision for instance. But I can take that for the amount of pure love and effort that went into making this. And it still holds up all these years later!
Thanks for bringing us behind the scenes Mike! Most film-goers have NO idea of the work involved so videos like this are a great education for all. It makes me appreciate "Titanic" even more, although I have to admit "A Night To Remember" is still my favorite Titanic fim, primitive special effects nothwithstanding.
I'm actually fine with the relatively weak practical effects.
The thing that bothers me most about the 1958 film is the SOUND. It's soooooo harsh and treble-heavy.
I'm so glad these are being covered. The 1997 Movie made milestones in Titanic Communities alike, it deserves the attention
Nice work mike, Keep it up! 💕
Cant say a bad word about this channel, absolutely gorgeous work as always!
For it's day the 1972 movie "The Poseidon Adventure" looked pretty good. Speaking of building ships, I really wish the UK would start building ships again, there shipbuilding history is so long. Now we have to go see the "Hero" model of the Titanic. Thanks to Mike for this behind the scenes look into the making of the movie.....
New level of respect for this movie, and it was already pretty high. Excellent job with the video.
I love it when productions mix both practical and digital effects to achieve an amazingly convincing final product.
You are one of the only video creators who I will not skip through the adds on for how you do them. Thanks for keeping the adds real and not just reading from a script
I saw Titanic THREE TIMES in theaters when it came out. The most ever for one movie. At 36, I'm looking forward to solidifying it with a number four this week. So excited.
Thanks Mike for taking the time to teach us all how this iconic movie was filmed and what special effects went into it.
So a few hours ago I watched this in 3D 4K at the cinema. Wow! Just, wow! I'm surprised that none of the CGI elements had any touch ups (the worst being Jack and Rose running down the corridor with their faces CG'ed in), but the film was astonishing. And it really pops in almost all scenes in 4K. The work they put into the making (showed here by the awesome Mike) really stands well for the most part in 4K. If you liked the movie before, definitely get yourself into a cinema for this. Thank you Mike for this video, keep em comin'!
Agreed, I appreciated even more knowing how crazy the BTS are. It is still so thrilling and emotional. Had no idea about the running faces lol. I just assumed rose looked weird when running with the blue light.
Incredible how James Cameron managed to perfectly portray the very moment I realized I was already 27, what a genius
Of all the things you do, I love the Titanic movie breakdowns and behind-the-scenes best. I had the absolute fortune to work at Weta Workshop a few yrs ago. They had miniatures and bigatures for King Kong, Chronicles of Narnia, and the train crash/explosion in Legend of Zorro there all at the same time. It was amazing watching them being built, tested, and (in the case of the train explosion) watching them filmed. I'd have given anything to have been part of the Titanic.
Wicked fun clip to watch Mike, thanks heaps.
I'VE SAILED THE SS FRANCE when it was known as the SS NORWAY. It was my first cruise. Absolutely glorious way to sail. I don't know how many people in the world would get to feel and older ship, definitely a moment of a lifetime.
These behind the scenes videos from Cameron’s Titanic are fantastic! I was 14 when the movie originally came out and I was obsessed with all the making of features that were made. Please keep them coming because I can’t get enough of this stuff! 🙏🏻
Just found your channel a few weeks ago and have been binging all your videos! Well researched, professional, and very engaging! Keep up the great work!
Same here mate! I have always had a fascination with Titanic and her fateful maiden voyage, and now that has led me here to this great channel
Although the Titanic movie isn't a hundred percent accurate it does the best job of making you feel like you were there. And even if the ship raised too high in the movie or maybe some of the people who jumped and hit stuff on the way down isn't accurate it's still how most survivors felt it when they were in that situation. It's just hard to capture what it really felt like through a screen so it has to be a little over the top sometimes.
I remember when I was twelve watching Titanic in the theatre way back in late '97 or early '98. We actually watched it twice! The scale, the set, special effects, costumes and basically the whole production was like nothing people had seen before up until then. It.Was.Huge. For weeks and months afterward it became part of the zeitgeist. Everyone seen it. Everyone was talking about it. Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" was on the radio constantly. I even remember hearing about the mother of my best friend crying in the car on the way home from the cinema when the song played on the radio! And maybe a month or two into 1998 my school used the film's soundtrack for the yearly combined primary and secondary school assembly at the local convention centre. The lights, dimmed, big curtains draped the walls, the music played... it felt like the cinema, but no sadly film.
My only quibble with the film was the shot of the stern section from behind as it slowly lifted out of the water and again from the same angle after the ship snaps in two when the stern slams into the water. The scale was unconvincing and consequently took me out of the film briefly. The other shots of miniatures and large scale models are so brief that the scale doesn't immediately register. Overall the special effects team did a fantastic job and deservedly won the Oscar for visual effects.
Going to go see Titanic in theaters this Valentines Day weekend with my girlfriend. I know it’s going to be a very emotional experience. Especially watching it with an audience!
There will never be another movie like Titanic. The practical effects used in Titanic are mind boggling and you already know that if a Titanic style movie was made today it'll all be done with cgi
I really REALLY miss this kind of moviemaking
At 12:34, this is the shot I’ve never been able to work out the angle. It always looks to me that the bow and stern sections are pointing up so it’s like an upside down letter V. I love your in depth videos of my favourite film of all time 🙂
The generator that powered the hydraulic system used to rotate the ship was built by my dad and his coworkers at the Caterpillar engine plant in Lafayette, IN.
Hi Mike. Here's a question. Why does Titanic seem to be the only ocean liner that split in half when sinking? The Britannic, Lusitania and Empress of Ireland all sunk in a slightly similar fashion, so why didn't any others split in half?
I’m assuming When Britannic’s bow hit the sea floor the engine room where most of the weight is was too close to waterline preventing it from adding pressure and stress to the hull for the period it was suspended, in addition to the ship falling over on its side shortly after. Lusitania and Empress of Ireland sank very quickly likely preventing the stress buildup in the hull. I could be wrong though.
I theorize the Titanic momentarily grounded on the iceberg shelf and crimped the keel, starting the break-up much earlier. The stresses of water weight and upending progressively proceeded from the "pre-cracked" starting point.
Talk about movie magic. It's incredible the talent that went into creating these scenes.
Seeing all these scale models I’m reminded how good this movie was and why it was so lasting in popularity
I used to work on the Fox lot, they have the benches they used on the deck all over the lot for you to sit on and have a plaque on them stating it was in the movie.
We actually had no idea about so many of these! Incredible.
The sound design added so much to make us (cinema-goers) feel tiny while watching the ending.
Yay! A new ocean liner design video. I literally just subscribe to your other channel and left a comment on there
Perfect timing :)
I have always wanted to discuss the sets. As an anchitect in training and huge fan of the film I’ve noticed so many details, creative licenses and even followed the characters through the deck plans as I rewatch the movie.
At the time it came out this movie was spot on! It had the information at the time and after its release, it reinvigorated interest in Titanic which lead to further research on the night of the sinking now compared now we learn a lot more even some wrong assumptions at the time were considered to be facts!
The special effect of this movie holds up pretty well overall though it's one of the reasons why I think it's want of the best historical dramas made so far! Other movies I could include are Tora, tora, tora, Master and commander, Patton, etc.
I just got back from seeing the re-release of Titanic in 3D. Have always been a fan of the true story, and the film. I was wondering, how much of the bottom of Titanic is buried in the ground floor? From the opening shot of the movie, it seems like a lot of it must be, unless it has just collapsed and fallen on itself over the years.
I'm going to see Titanic in 4K 3D in the cinema on Friday. I can't wait! It'll be the first time I've ever watched it in the cinema
So many hours of hard work and so well worth it, I still get the same feeling of amazement watching it as I did when I watched it first time many years ago.
Great video as always Mike! It's interesting to look back just over 25 years and see how James Cameron made the sinking scenes of his famous movie.
@11:38 not quite sure you are correct here, you state the performances were via "motion capture" which isnt what you think it is. What they did is film various stuntmen and women on greenscreen, and then digitally insert those performances into the shot. Motion capture is used to copy the movements of people that will be put into a computer to be animated by CGI.
Fun fact. There's a scene during the break up that shows a room being split in half. The room is a composite of the models used for the smoking room and the lounge and thus represents a room that didn't actually exist on the Titanic. The room has the lounge paneling and the smoking room ceiling. Why they did this when they clearly had models of these rooms I do not know.
I didn’t know it had this many miniature models. For 1997 the effects are still good.
Today I watched the re-release of the movie Titanic, because of the 25th anniversary. Despite I now know more details of the movie, it hasn't lost any of it's magic. Still you're overwhelmed by the love story, the human tragedy and movie music.
Great Work!! This video combines two of my lifelong great loves; the Titanic (and ocean liners) and MODELS! I got the Entex Titanic model when it first came out in 1975 when I was 15. It cost an astronomical (for the time) $75.00! I drooled over it all the way home, and I still own it today at 63. The Movie: Three most terrifying scenes: The breakup, the stern slo-mo crushing down on swimmers, and the final plunge. It much more graphically portrayed the gut twisting horror of that night that had haunted my thoughts ever since I'd discovered the story at a young age. I'd seen A Night To Remember in the early 70's and read everything on the Titanic I could find since I was about 11, and with each new sci-fi movie that came out in the70-80s I always wondered what newer model making and filming techniques could do with the Titanic saga. That was the FIRST glorious thought that flashed across my mind in 1995 when I heard there would be a brand new movie about it soon. I was one of the first in the theater. All the schmaltz was secondary to me to seeing the Titanic in her glory and the horrific final death throes, and the terrible loss of life. I was not disappointed, Cameron delivered as he had done since Terminator. When I saw the behind the scenes and just SOME of what they went through to film that it was astounding. Still, there is BEAUTIFUL interesting stuff here I had not seen before. I thank you for all that and look forward to your NEXT Titanic breakdown!! P.S. Only thing I have left to wonder now 27 years since the movie, is AGAIN, what current CGI and movie making magic could do with the story. As we have learned even more about the sinking since the movie was made. Cameron's is very definitive though. Thanx!
Those “Raising the Titanic” clips didn’t look real but they still looked really good.
I would be curious about your analysis and oppinion of the mentioned old movie, where they raise back the Titanic from the ocean.
Can u make a video on all the interior sets they used for the sinking?
Great video as always, Mike! Just some good faith criticism; this is the second time in a video you’ve used footage from Raise the Titanic to imply that model shots on real water are “unconvincing”. While RTT isn’t a masterpiece we have to consider that for the time (shot in 1979) RTTs model shots were immense in scale (literally and figuratively) and the final product still holds up very well in the realm of practical effects. Worth an honorable mention at least!
Definitely! Not to mention RTT used the largest full model Titanic at 55 feet.
I love it when it breaks in two
I found your channel at the start of this year and became instantly hooked, have my subscription and my like. I may be an aviation enthusiast, but having come from a family of sailors I still love ships their histories. Love your content, I look foreword to your videos every time I see an upload notification ❤
Thank you for sharing your passion with the rest of us.
Ah yes. A video combining my two loves: Titanic and filmmaking genius. Thank you.
I loved both of the behind the scenes videos you did for Titanic. I knew a lot went into the making of the movie, but I had no idea how much detail they put into the effects of the ship. I wish they made more movies like this. Sorry you lost out on the funnel!
The best movie of all time!
Mike, your real time sinking animation pleaseeeeeeeeeeee. 🥺
This movie, this story is amazing. I love it, not the sadness but the history behind it all.
Man that transition from RMS Titanic to SS France was sooo smooothh
The miniatures of Jack and Rose were amazing!
The sinking shot is a mix between the model and the big set. You can tell by looking at the 2nd class enclosed promenade windows.
Your Awesome...You explain every to detail. And make it very interesting....Thank You!!
thanks!
I love it when they basically use models and then use computers to just enhance or aid a sequence or shot.
Great video! Would love to see more on Titanic!
nice little video - during the film, in particular the sinking sequence, and as the rear section began to rise out of the water, as the angle increased people began to slide and roll downhill as it were - there was one particular chap who would take a tumble and do a forward roll straight into a huge Capstan winch, nothing to spectacular, but you could see it was made of a high density foam as part of it folded under the impact of the chap hitting it - i always look out for it when the film is repeated, i can't help but watch the film every time it comes up, its still pretty epic even if the story is a little sexed up - but at least the majority of what was known is depicted to give much sense of realism - i love the film from its historical and its technical aspect, very cleverly done
Endlessly interesting revelations .. truly outstanding work on these videos Mike, cheers mate ✌️🍻
I love models so much, this movie is such a good study of them.
James Cameron is a cinematic genius. Avatar 2 has recently proven that to me once more. He doesn’t get enough recognition, people take him for granted.
I was really disappointed by avatar 2. The dialogues sounded like a parody of the first one. The scenes kept cutting abruptly. The movie is too long. The acting is not as good as the first one somehow. And he recycled the exact same story with the whale stuff. I really didn’t like the bad guy being brought back absurdly. And the many plot holes. How stupid the kids are risking everyone’s lives every 5 sec. I saw it twice to try being more open the second time but didn’t work for me. I still adore the first one.
i’d be better than him if i had millions to make a movie
I’ll give it that, visually this film is a masterpiece.
Mate, I’ve been watching your videos throughout the week end and really enjoy them! But my OCD brain couldn’t focus in this one cos all I kept thinking of was your tie not being centered perfectly 😂
people had rlly good Acting and james did a fantastic job on making this
If Cameron made another Titanic movie with greater sinking accuracy, I'd watch it.
That hallway shot shows that even small small scale scenes with water can look convincing if done well enough.
Does NOT look quarter scale on screen
My wife and I went to see Titanic at the movie theather for thr 25th anniversary. We've seen this movie a lot of times so we took the opportunity to appreciate the sets and models display at the big screen, looking at the details of the ship, the beauty of the sets, etc. we barely paid any attention to the Jack and Rose love story
I think I have seen every single video about Titanic but theres no way im not watching your video!!! Even just to hear you talk about it :)
Really enjoying these movie magic videos! I would love to see a video analyzing the replica props and decorative interiors in the film alongside any of the historical photos and/or footage of the wreckage and debris field that Cameron used as reference 😊
This is great - had not heard this part of the effects history.
I thought I'd seen all of the BTS photos of the models but that iceberg one was new to me! Great video!
The 90s were the best time for visual effects. The perfect blend of miniatures, some CGI and practical large sets and as Cameron said never use the same trick twice.
The ''Miniature'' for the sinking
Its bigger than my will to live
That huge funnel that went for sale is insane. Imagine having that as a souvenir in your home and you get to tell your guests the back story behind it.
If you continue this you can look at how James Cameron got some of the interior sets like the 1st class dining room using recreations from the real sister ships. The dinner plates were, IIRC, made by descendants of the people who built the Titanic in the first place.
Digging around UA-cam I've found some remarkable documentaries from the filming itself, as well as a neat show from National Geographic where a group of Engineers rebuild a few iconic parts of Titanic using a mix of modern and historic design techniques. They even spent a little time digging coal from a historic mine just to get a sense of what it was like back in the Edwardian world.
Speaking of which there's another show where a (separate) group of British celebrities are quote-unquote "sent back in time" to various eras of British history from a Prehistoric camp to an Edwardian Lord's manor.
I was at a festival/market a couple years back and they had a large titanic exhibit there that included some salvaged pieces of the titanic model that were collected from the scrap heap. I ended up buying a small piece of wood that came with an authenticity letter from the scrap location in Mexico. Even if I can't 100% confirm its authenticity its still a cool piece to have.
Really good video, love your content so much!
Fantastic Video. Its amazing how much work went into the movie
Great doco thankyou!
Awesome stuff