The false water cobra and hog nose snakes aren't mimicking the cobra. That's a lie you were told in school that has more to do with Lamarckian Evolution than more accurate models of evolution. Development of similar traits happens throughout nature. A cute little western hognose has never seen a cobra. They are the way they are because they happened to develop a trait and were successful. That's all there is to it.
Thamnophis species have Duvernoy's glands, which may be analogous to venom glands in Crotalidae (pit viper) species. The progressive local effects produced by secretions of these glands may be confused with early Crotalidae envenomation. (www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(94)70113-X/pdf) Both statements are actually wrong according to my sources of which this is just one.
@@ErwinNieuwenburg The Wandering or Terrestrial Garter Snake (Thamnophis elegans vagrans) has grooved rear enlarged teeth and produce a rather painful bite if they can sink them in, they also chew as the bite to work their toxic saliva into the wound. Used to have a breeding pair and had been bitten a couple of times, once I got nailed by the fangs. It is the only venomous garter snake species of concern, that is listed as venomous in my area out of maybe a half dozen species.
I’d love to see more on the Egyptian False Cobra. I was exposed to these years ago when stationed in Saudi Arabia. Very active, fairly docile and handleable. Voracious eaters, just not much info out there. Need some captive breeding. Another very interesting rear fanged- the Montpellier snake. A large very active colubrid that appears to have a social hierarchy in the wild. Not a lot of captive husbandry info in North America. Idea for future video?
I would love to keep all sorts of rear fanged venomous snakes. I've recently come across the super arctic hognose morph, and I was really close to getting a breeding pair of arctics. XD (I barely resisted the temptation)
Egyptian false cobras are also very interesting. I’d almost consider them over a false water cobra because they’re said to not get as big, but the only ones I’ve seen are wild caught. Well, that and there’s almost no information out there on them.
My first thought too, but snakes didn't evolve until after Pangea broke up. Given that no known old world colubrids have this adaptation, it's likely a case of convergent evolution.
My understanding of why many different snakes will hood up is to make themselves look bigger to potential threats. They’re not mimicking each other. As many know, king cobras aren’t true cobras, but are more closely related to mambas, but it’s a lesser known fact that mambas can hood up, too (just not as wide as a king cobra, and nowhere near as wide as a true cobra)
It's kind of like how most colubrids will vibrate their tails -- it's not actually mimicking the rattlesnake, it's a defense that probably predates the evolution of the rattle. Similarly, many snakes will flatten their heads to appear larger, true cobras, falsies, and several other elapids developed a specialized version of a common defense.
It's great to see when a fwc hoods up tbh ours did it amazingly a few weeks ago. Hooded up stud up abit and took a couple of strikes 😂really fun snakes to deal with (was a fun feeding day) 🤘
My son came home with one. I checked her out and made sure that she was ok. The problem was my son was 8 and wasn't listening to me when I said to let her go. He didn't and momma got involved. So I now had a 2ft long garder snake wild caught. Hmmm. This snake was so cool and glad I kept her. Then one day I was sitting on the couch and asked my son if he threw nightcrawlers into her aquarium. He said no. I got up and looked. She had 5 babies. Now I have 6 garder snakes an eastern diamondback rattlesnake and a couple other different subs of rattlesnakes. But considering that I had never owned a garter snake. This is a very good pet. But my son's won't eat anything other than frogs!!!!!!! So baby bullfrogs are on the menu for her with tree frogs. The 5 others eat anything that hit the ground in front of them. Lol. Don't really like taking wild snakes out of the wild. But as my wife pointed out. I did with the rattlesnakes. But they were going to die and I can't stress this enough. The home owners were going to kill them. I didn't have a safe place to relocate them to and getting permits after the fact isn't easy. But with my knowledge of Gators and Crocs they gave them to me. Anyway a great pet for beginners. They will eat most of the time without any problems.
We have a handsome snake here in Europe (Iberian Peninsula) called the Montpellier snake, it is a rear fanged snake and can exceed 8 feet and gets quite chunky.
Yeah it’s not batesian mimicry like some people think, it’s convergent evolution. The hognose snakes that were able to flatten out their heads survived and the ones who couldn’t died, so now all of them have evolved to do it
I have a falsie, and he's been a fantastic snake to work with. Hasn't hissed or attempted to strike in the time I've had him. He's only about 1 1/2 years old and is already about 5'5" feet. I'm anticipating him being close to around 7 foot or so when he's done growing as I've been told by other fwcs owners that they grow until they're 7 years old. Slight chance of being bigger, but I'm not expecting it.
My hognose baby seems oddly tamed... eats really good never attacks. I wonder if this means there’s an underlying issue or is he just amazing? Idk only time will tell 😂
I have fallen in love with barons racer long time ago and now in december I got one myself! Babies are crazy. Mine is almost a year old now in total and he is amazing. Fun to watch, fun to handle. But before they get used to handling they are CRAZY! 😂
My favorite snake that I have ever kept is my four year old male anaconda morph Western hognose snake Aspen. He is super sweet and has never even come close to tagging me.❤ Love him to bits 'n pieces!
Here is an idea for you ... Can you PLEASE do a video on hog nose snake morphs and what the terms mean. I'm shopping for one currently and quite often don't know what is being sold
Thanks for yet another super video. I admire everything you do and am especially impressed that you admit to a slight error in a previous vid. Might I suggest something? Perhaps you could amend that previous video (if that's even possible) with a written comment on the screen at the time of the error. That way no-one leaves watching the vid with wrong info. Please take this as positive feedback. I am a really big fan and have learned a lot from you.😉
So this is the video that got me to settle on a Hognose for my first snake still have a lot of research to do and i have some other things that need to be resolved first but congrats you convinced me on a hognose for my first snake lol
Also the western hognoses have been split up into plains hognose(most commonly kept), mexican hognose, and dusty hognose since they all do look different
Of this list, I have a Western hognose and a Florida blue garter in my collection. :3 For those interested in garter snakes in the US, please check your local laws. In my state, there's restrictions on only one subspecies of garter snake. Also please do individual research on what to feed the garter snake. Some pet store employees have unknowingly suggested to me feeders that can harm the snake's health.
I used to have an Eastern Hognose. I've never had a western, but from what I have seen, their temperaments differ. The eastern seems to be a bit more chill and relaxed, at least mine was. Here in Indiana, they were illegal to own for a while, because people were depleting them in the wild due to their popularity. That has since changed, but they are still difficult to find. Western hognoses tend to be more abundant in shops and at expos.
with the falsies hooding up, it could be a couple things really. could be parallel evolution/adaptation (whichever word youd rather use), for instance, the cobra probably evolved its hood to appear bigger in a display to threats and the falsies may have also evolved it for this reason rather than mimicry, whats interesting is that falsies can stretch out their entire bodies width-wise, not just the 'hood' area whereas true cobras can only stretch out the hood area
When I was about 13 in Winnipeg, I got chomped on pretty good by a common red-sided Garter snake after I hurt her tail tip when I tried to catch her. What did I know? I was a dork, and she was faster than me. Out of remorse for hurting her, I let the poor noodle chew a good long time on my knuckle. They don't have much in the way of teeth, I found out, and it was actually cute. Kept that scar for years as a reminder to never step on a snake's tail again. I still have a tiny bit of the scar left after nearly forty years. Now I find out Garters might have a mildly venomous saliva? Awesome. Another nasty substance for my list of "Never come in contact with 'cuz **Bad For You**." I'm not bragging, the "list" is short. LOL There's only Euphorbia (various plant species that can cause serious allergic reactions. On me--nuthin'), stinging nettle ("nasty pain". Me: feels kinda neat), now Garter snake venom: aww, the wee noodle's chewing on my hand... **goes looking for Black Widows
I did some light research and the Baron's Racer, though generally non-aggressive, is the only snake on your list whose venom is considered dangerous to humans. This according to Wikipedia.
Regarding your questions about why New World Colubrids “mimic” Old World cobras… They may have shared common ancestry. Some Colubrids are related to Elapids and therefore share a similar defensive behavior.
Other cool rear fanged are rufous beaked snakes, parrot snakes, vine snakes , house snakes (deadly ones are the boomslang, twig snake and a few species from Asia and Europe that have deadly venom.) Good video
We have a western house and sometimes when he hisses it actually sounds like he's snoring. He handles really easily and loves getting under his chin stroked so anyone who says you can't pet a snake hasn't met our Taz.
I would assume that the false water cobra is a case of convergent evolution where the hood has evolved for the same reason as a cobra, rather than to mimic one
I watch these videos to get over my fear of snakes...learning about hibernaculums just made it worse O.O we’ve got garter snakes on our yard. How can I sleep thinking of a huge ball of them just hanging out somewhere near 🥲🥲
Good point about the false water cobras. I would assume Water cobra doesnt actually mimic a old world cobra like the king cobra does for instince. Its more of a convergent evolutionary trait that resembles a true cobra but the fact it doesnt hold his head up might be the the proof its just a convergent trait. Lots of snakes puff them selfs up or do thing to seem bigger.
I know why the false water cobra has a hood. Same reason why some hongnose snakes flatten out. It's convergent evolution, not mimicry, where similar traits evolve in unrelated species that give them an advantage. Obviously a hood is a good defense mechanism, so it makes sense that it would show up in unrelated species. Like how the fish body plan has also been seen in mammals (wales or porpoises) and reptiles (ichthosaur/now extinct).
Our friend Dingo is very allergic and while in South America had anaphylactic shock from some local rear danced South American snake. We almost lost him. Dingo knows he allergic but he didn't know it was that bad.
I live in oklahoma and as a kid I use to play with wild snakes and one that I'd find was what I was told was a spread nana which I think is an eastern hognose snake but that didn't look like a hognose and I can't find wild ones anymore or anything on the internet that looks like that did but it had a really big hood with a almost smile face and were mostly yellow will some browns and blacks
Maybe the false water cobras interacted with cobras back in the days of Pangea which helped them evolve the hood defence then the continent’s separated.
Nice list, but I'd say a Boiga Cyanea is a far superior pet rear fang than a mangrove. Same genus, much less moody, smaller and much more likely to pick up a captive bred vs wild caught. They don't have the same striking black and yellow coloration, but IMO, they are a better pet in just about every way and still share the same body style and head shape.
False water cobra- true cobra Convergent evolution. There’s lots of snakes that spread out that area when scared. It’s not hard to visualise how a fwc got such a hood.
Garters are super adorable and I would love to have few girls together in a big enclosure❤ However they are so small as babies I'm afraid of loosing/not being able to feed them, I shy away😅 Also falsies are and will always be one of my favorite species but they are such poopnators I would never want to own one😂
I have a mangrove snake ans i have had one before and neither had bad tempers lol. Not even at night which is what people often say is their most feisty time of day. I have not experiences a feisty mangrove. But maybe i have just been lucky.
My first ever venomous was a Boiga Dendrophila. They are magnificent, defense so it trains you, but the Venom not medically significant. The two times I've been tagged I've only had one reaction. It was slightly worse then a bee sting.
I have kind of a stupid question but... I'm considering getting a hognose snake, and I'm pretty sure I'm allergic to mosquitoes, so their venom might actually affect me a bit more than it would other people. Since the venom is in the snake's saliva, can their tongue flicks (if they lick/tongue flick on your skin) cause a reaction?
Bro! These videos are bullshit! In a good way, you show me reptiles I've never even seen and now I need/want! Love the videos mate and channel absolutely amazing content I know this video is 2 years ago as I'm messaging but I've binged pretty much all your videos now hahaha keep up the good work
Do you think it would be Ok to put my new pair M and F of Egyptian False Cobra’s together housing wise? They were in the same container when I got them but
My favourite rear-fanged snakes are chrysopelea ornata and chrysopelea paradisi. Their "common" name is paradise flying snakes. sadly they are 1. Not as usually kept as a pet, so its hard to find one and impossible to find captive breed ones 2. Expensive and you always have to import them 3. hard to care for and nothing for a beginner which I am :(
to the hood on the false water cobra: I think it’s covalent evolution. There are some animals that look similar to another species that doesn’t live in that area, for example hedgehogs and Echidna, one is a Placentalia and one is a Marsupial, but they look very similar. Or the three fingered sloth and the two fingered sloth, who are not really closely related but show lots of similarities despite the very uncommon and kinda ineffective lifestyle. So i guess the false water cobra developed a hood because it gave an fitness advantage (fitness in evolution) of some kind, just like it did with “real” cobras.
False Water Cobras aren't named that way because they can hood up. There's another snake genus, Boulengerina, that they resemble. Snakes in this genus are commonly called water cobras but because the FWC is not actually related it's a "false" water cobra
So far as the false water cobras hooding up, and this is just an opinion, but just as allot of snakes will rattle their tails as a rattlesnake does as a premptive defense mechanism we consider it mimicking. I don't think they are necessarily mimicking anything, it's just a defense mechanism because it makes noise and gets a potential predators attention, and this is just pre disposed in most all snakes, and it's their natural instinct. Rattle snakes just have a better system for which to do it, like an adder has a better hiss mechanism than a boa does. Just like some snakes hood up so it makes them look bigger to potential predators and their able to do this because of the nature of their physiology. Allot of snakes hood up if they can. Mambas for example, but they aren't considered to be mimicking cobras, I've seen eastern hognose snakes do this commonly as well. I think a boa would hood for defense if it could but it can't. It hisses, no one says they are mimicking an adder though. I've seen cobras roll over and play dead just like a hog nose snake, but I've never heard it said they were "mimicking" a hognose snake, just that "look they are playing dead just like a hognose snake does". I think they are doing whatever their predisposed to do naturally to protect themselves, and I believe the defense mechanisms are spread out among all species and we just assume it's one mimicking another because one is dangerous and the other may not be.... make sense? It's just my opinion however, I began to think this when I first started keeping snakes many years ago and realized they damn near all rattle their tails especially when they are little and "mimicking" isn't going on in their little lima bean size brains, just food and survival and the traits are each ones very own. No mimicking going on.... just an opinion.
I would ask the question why does a Cobra hood up? I think the answer is to make it self look bigger. A hognose snake doesn’t quite have a cobra hood but it does something similar with its upper body and I think the same goes for the false water cobra
Well I made the comment during the false cobra narrative I didn’t know you were going to have hognose as you’re number one I’m thinking about deleting the comment
Can you do an episode on reptiles that don’t eat live feeders. We have tortoises but my daughter wants to get a lizard. And my wife doesn’t like mice or bugs
Here in Georgia, it is illegal to keep any native non-venomous snake... They include the Garter, and I ask myself, why,,,the Garter is venomous..and the law, same law, says you can keep any native venomous snake...So..yeah..
I have a question and I would love if some one could answer this for me. I saw what I thought was a garter snake but cause it had the 3 white stripes and like a black grey color but than I saw another one the same color playing dead was I was racking leaves It was upside down and I thought it was dead but I poked it a couple times and it popped and ran right into a bush so I don’t know if it was a garter or a hog nose and it was to fast and small for me to see the head?
And now I want 5 new snakes😂
hahaha glad I could enable
Same right now I'm looking up prices lol
Lol
@@WickensWickedReptilesMy parents hate when I listen to you lol, I always come asking for so many interesting animals
The false water cobra and hog nose snakes aren't mimicking the cobra.
That's a lie you were told in school that has more to do with Lamarckian Evolution than more accurate models of evolution. Development of similar traits happens throughout nature.
A cute little western hognose has never seen a cobra. They are the way they are because they happened to develop a trait and were successful. That's all there is to it.
yes, and as you say that I realize how silly my question was. thanks so much for adding this!
Yea they just do this to make themselves look bigger
it's called convergent evolution.
They all hood up for the same reason, making themselves look bigger and more intimidating.
They just wanna flatten out to look big as possible
I have 37 snakes including two false water cobras. They are my favorites. I love them both.
Garter snakes aren’t actually rear fanged they just have a venom in their saliva. Ribbons as well
Thamnophis species have Duvernoy's glands, which may be analogous to venom glands in Crotalidae (pit viper) species. The progressive local effects produced by secretions of these glands may be confused with early Crotalidae envenomation. (www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(94)70113-X/pdf) Both statements are actually wrong according to my sources of which this is just one.
I'll have to dig into that
@@ErwinNieuwenburg The Wandering or Terrestrial Garter Snake (Thamnophis elegans vagrans) has grooved rear enlarged teeth and produce a rather painful bite if they can sink them in, they also chew as the bite to work their toxic saliva into the wound. Used to have a breeding pair and had been bitten a couple of times, once I got nailed by the fangs. It is the only venomous garter snake species of concern, that is listed as venomous in my area out of maybe a half dozen species.
I’d love to see more on the Egyptian False Cobra. I was exposed to these years ago when stationed in Saudi Arabia. Very active, fairly docile and handleable. Voracious eaters, just not much info out there. Need some captive breeding. Another very interesting rear fanged- the Montpellier snake. A large very active colubrid that appears to have a social hierarchy in the wild. Not a lot of captive husbandry info in North America. Idea for future video?
I would love to keep all sorts of rear fanged venomous snakes. I've recently come across the super arctic hognose morph, and I was really close to getting a breeding pair of arctics. XD (I barely resisted the temptation)
that's a hard pair to turn down
"So you'll have a bunch of males, and then they're gonna go after one female, and they're gonna...it's the coolest thing."
😱
Egyptian false cobras are also very interesting. I’d almost consider them over a false water cobra because they’re said to not get as big, but the only ones I’ve seen are wild caught. Well, that and there’s almost no information out there on them.
Morgan Gobin both of my egyptian false were WC and died within weeks. Still a cool snake. I’d love 2 try it again.
also amazing snakes!
Regarding the false water cobras. They may have evolved during a time when there was only one land mass... Pangea. But idk much about them.
makes a ton of sense
My first thought too, but snakes didn't evolve until after Pangea broke up. Given that no known old world colubrids have this adaptation, it's likely a case of convergent evolution.
My understanding of why many different snakes will hood up is to make themselves look bigger to potential threats. They’re not mimicking each other. As many know, king cobras aren’t true cobras, but are more closely related to mambas, but it’s a lesser known fact that mambas can hood up, too (just not as wide as a king cobra, and nowhere near as wide as a true cobra)
I’ve caught, played with and been bitten by so many garter snakes in my life it funny. I had no idea they were rear fanged venomous lol
The falsie is just a case of convergent evolution, lots of snakes hood, way more than just cobras
Yeah, false water cobras are called that cause they look like a true water cobra and the hooding up makes it even more believable.
yes, I've been corrected several times and I'm super happy to have this info
It's kind of like how most colubrids will vibrate their tails -- it's not actually mimicking the rattlesnake, it's a defense that probably predates the evolution of the rattle.
Similarly, many snakes will flatten their heads to appear larger, true cobras, falsies, and several other elapids developed a specialized version of a common defense.
It's great to see when a fwc hoods up tbh ours did it amazingly a few weeks ago. Hooded up stud up abit and took a couple of strikes 😂really fun snakes to deal with (was a fun feeding day) 🤘
My son came home with one. I checked her out and made sure that she was ok. The problem was my son was 8 and wasn't listening to me when I said to let her go. He didn't and momma got involved. So I now had a 2ft long garder snake wild caught. Hmmm. This snake was so cool and glad I kept her. Then one day I was sitting on the couch and asked my son if he threw nightcrawlers into her aquarium. He said no. I got up and looked. She had 5 babies. Now I have 6 garder snakes an eastern diamondback rattlesnake and a couple other different subs of rattlesnakes. But considering that I had never owned a garter snake. This is a very good pet. But my son's won't eat anything other than frogs!!!!!!! So baby bullfrogs are on the menu for her with tree frogs. The 5 others eat anything that hit the ground in front of them. Lol. Don't really like taking wild snakes out of the wild. But as my wife pointed out. I did with the rattlesnakes. But they were going to die and I can't stress this enough. The home owners were going to kill them. I didn't have a safe place to relocate them to and getting permits after the fact isn't easy. But with my knowledge of Gators and Crocs they gave them to me. Anyway a great pet for beginners. They will eat most of the time without any problems.
that's a really cool collection
We have a handsome snake here in Europe (Iberian Peninsula) called the Montpellier snake, it is a rear fanged snake and can exceed 8 feet and gets quite chunky.
There’s a series on Netflix called ‘perfect planet’ and there’s an episode where it shows how they come out in the spring
I'll have to send ya pics when I get my mangrove pair. CANT WAIT TO GET THEM!! 😁😁😁😁
very cool!
I think false water cobras and hognose snakes flatten their necks to look bigger and to look scarier and not trying to mimic cobras.
Yeah it’s not batesian mimicry like some people think, it’s convergent evolution. The hognose snakes that were able to flatten out their heads survived and the ones who couldn’t died, so now all of them have evolved to do it
I have a falsie, and he's been a fantastic snake to work with. Hasn't hissed or attempted to strike in the time I've had him. He's only about 1 1/2 years old and is already about 5'5" feet. I'm anticipating him being close to around 7 foot or so when he's done growing as I've been told by other fwcs owners that they grow until they're 7 years old. Slight chance of being bigger, but I'm not expecting it.
what a nice size!
Hey man like your vids, you should consider showing more animal footage/images in your videos though would prob attract a larger audience
thanks for the feedback, if I have the animals I talk about I show mostly B roll of them, but I don't own any of these except the hognose.
My hognose baby seems oddly tamed... eats really good never attacks. I wonder if this means there’s an underlying issue or is he just amazing? Idk only time will tell 😂
Mine calmed down rather quickly. I think it has to do with being handled more often as a baby.
some hoggies are just sweeties
I have fallen in love with barons racer long time ago and now in december I got one myself! Babies are crazy. Mine is almost a year old now in total and he is amazing. Fun to watch, fun to handle. But before they get used to handling they are CRAZY! 😂
racers are amazing snakes
My favorite snake that I have ever kept is my four year old male anaconda morph Western hognose snake Aspen. He is super sweet and has never even come close to tagging me.❤ Love him to bits 'n pieces!
Hooding up is to appear bigger to the predator. Alot of reptiles do this. (the examples beared dragon and frilled dragon come to mind)
a great point
I love it wicked wickens reptile have a cool day wicked wickens reptile
thanks!!!
Here is an idea for you ... Can you PLEASE do a video on hog nose snake morphs and what the terms mean. I'm shopping for one currently and quite often don't know what is being sold
The issue with videos like this.... I'm not an expert. I'd love to but I think I'm over my head on this one.
Thanks for yet another super video. I admire everything you do and am especially impressed that you admit to a slight error in a previous vid. Might I suggest something? Perhaps you could amend that previous video (if that's even possible) with a written comment on the screen at the time of the error. That way no-one leaves watching the vid with wrong info. Please take this as positive feedback. I am a really big fan and have learned a lot from you.😉
that's a great idea and thanks for your kind words :)
Good idea. Like the FWC info re. size.
So this is the video that got me to settle on a Hognose for my first snake still have a lot of research to do and i have some other things that need to be resolved first but congrats you convinced me on a hognose for my first snake lol
Cant get enough of the boigas. Might be bringing a baby home in the near future.
they are so cool!
Also the western hognoses have been split up into plains hognose(most commonly kept), mexican hognose, and dusty hognose since they all do look different
Of this list, I have a Western hognose and a Florida blue garter in my collection. :3
For those interested in garter snakes in the US, please check your local laws. In my state, there's restrictions on only one subspecies of garter snake.
Also please do individual research on what to feed the garter snake. Some pet store employees have unknowingly suggested to me feeders that can harm the snake's health.
very good advice, I love that!
I used to have an Eastern Hognose. I've never had a western, but from what I have seen, their temperaments differ. The eastern seems to be a bit more chill and relaxed, at least mine was. Here in Indiana, they were illegal to own for a while, because people were depleting them in the wild due to their popularity. That has since changed, but they are still difficult to find. Western hognoses tend to be more abundant in shops and at expos.
with the falsies hooding up, it could be a couple things really. could be parallel evolution/adaptation (whichever word youd rather use), for instance, the cobra probably evolved its hood to appear bigger in a display to threats and the falsies may have also evolved it for this reason rather than mimicry, whats interesting is that falsies can stretch out their entire bodies width-wise, not just the 'hood' area whereas true cobras can only stretch out the hood area
OK, Thanx for responding to my question
thanks for watching :)
When I was about 13 in Winnipeg, I got chomped on pretty good by a common red-sided Garter snake after I hurt her tail tip when I tried to catch her. What did I know? I was a dork, and she was faster than me. Out of remorse for hurting her, I let the poor noodle chew a good long time on my knuckle. They don't have much in the way of teeth, I found out, and it was actually cute.
Kept that scar for years as a reminder to never step on a snake's tail again. I still have a tiny bit of the scar left after nearly forty years. Now I find out Garters might have a mildly venomous saliva? Awesome. Another nasty substance for my list of "Never come in contact with 'cuz **Bad For You**." I'm not bragging, the "list" is short. LOL There's only Euphorbia (various plant species that can cause serious allergic reactions. On me--nuthin'), stinging nettle ("nasty pain". Me: feels kinda neat), now Garter snake venom: aww, the wee noodle's chewing on my hand... **goes looking for Black Widows
poor snek
I did some light research and the Baron's Racer, though generally non-aggressive, is the only snake on your list whose venom is considered dangerous to humans. This according to Wikipedia.
Have you seen Pissy the Hognose snake?? She's awesome! Shoutout Pissy! The king of the rear fangs is without a doubt the Boomslang!
I have not
@@WickensWickedReptiles Go check her out at Exotic Lair! She's awesome.
Regarding your questions about why New World Colubrids “mimic” Old World cobras…
They may have shared common ancestry. Some Colubrids are related to Elapids and therefore share a similar defensive behavior.
I have both a barons green racer and a boiga cyanea and I just love working with the rear fanged species
Other cool rear fanged are rufous beaked snakes, parrot snakes, vine snakes , house snakes (deadly ones are the boomslang, twig snake and a few species from Asia and Europe that have deadly venom.) Good video
thanks for adding that:)
I used to keep fwc, great snakes.
But they where very happy to headbutt or bite.
The feeding response is quality.
"garter snakes"
Me: HUH!? Since when!?
Twig Snakes and Boomslangs are deadly but super cool rear-fanged snakes.
Here in SA we got two diffrent types of garters we got the Boulenger's garter and then the hihgveld garter
that's so cool!
@@WickensWickedReptiles yeah but they aren't like American garters these has a higher chance to kill a person ,these at us are really venomous
Another fantastic video brother.
thanks dude!
Loving this top 5 series!
thanks!
We have a western house and sometimes when he hisses it actually sounds like he's snoring. He handles really easily and loves getting under his chin stroked so anyone who says you can't pet a snake hasn't met our Taz.
It should say hognose not house.
I would assume that the false water cobra is a case of convergent evolution where the hood has evolved for the same reason as a cobra, rather than to mimic one
yes this seems right - eh, live stream tonight if interested! ua-cam.com/video/weAfpfZgQek/v-deo.html
I watch these videos to get over my fear of snakes...learning about hibernaculums just made it worse O.O we’ve got garter snakes on our yard. How can I sleep thinking of a huge ball of them just hanging out somewhere near 🥲🥲
Good point about the false water cobras. I would assume Water cobra doesnt actually mimic a old world cobra like the king cobra does for instince. Its more of a convergent evolutionary trait that resembles a true cobra but the fact it doesnt hold his head up might be the the proof its just a convergent trait. Lots of snakes puff them selfs up or do thing to seem bigger.
5:41 I am now calling a baby egg eating snake a egglet
hahhaaa
I know why the false water cobra has a hood. Same reason why some hongnose snakes flatten out. It's convergent evolution, not mimicry, where similar traits evolve in unrelated species that give them an advantage. Obviously a hood is a good defense mechanism, so it makes sense that it would show up in unrelated species. Like how the fish body plan has also been seen in mammals (wales or porpoises) and reptiles (ichthosaur/now extinct).
Another good example of this is how tree boas and tree pythons are really similar although they evolved separately.
Great list!!
thanks so much
Our friend Dingo is very allergic and while in South America had anaphylactic shock from some local rear danced South American snake. We almost lost him. Dingo knows he allergic but he didn't know it was that bad.
wow eh
I live in oklahoma and as a kid I use to play with wild snakes and one that I'd find was what I was told was a spread nana which I think is an eastern hognose snake but that didn't look like a hognose and I can't find wild ones anymore or anything on the internet that looks like that did but it had a really big hood with a almost smile face and were mostly yellow will some browns and blacks
definitely plan on getting a mangrove snake
they are beautiful
There is a species of Colubrid that's related to the Garter species called a Ribbon Snake.
Nice now ya got me looking up prices on these snakes. Lol looks like I'm getting new snakes
Shame the snake in the thumbnail wasnt included in the list, that's next on my list :D
maybe a Part II?
@@WickensWickedReptiles that would be amazing 👍 I'm picking mine up later this week with a bit of luck 😁
Maybe the false water cobras interacted with cobras back in the days of Pangea which helped them evolve the hood defence then the continent’s separated.
perhaps
I'd love to own a mangrove snake. They're gorgeous!!
I just purchased a Boiga irregulars (im from Australia) but theres not alot in the hobby over here.
that's awesome, I saw these guys in another video one time
How venomous are the boiga irregulars
Rufous Beaked Snake is my fav in this category.....check em out, hard to get though.
Check out the Texas shovel nose snake
I'll have to
Nice list, but I'd say a Boiga Cyanea is a far superior pet rear fang than a mangrove. Same genus, much less moody, smaller and much more likely to pick up a captive bred vs wild caught. They don't have the same striking black and yellow coloration, but IMO, they are a better pet in just about every way and still share the same body style and head shape.
Would love to see a video on garters
Owning a mangrove snake would be epic but I’ve heard that their bite can have some very bad effects but others say it doesn’t do anything
yea not fun at all
False water cobra- true cobra
Convergent evolution.
There’s lots of snakes that spread out that area when scared. It’s not hard to visualise how a fwc got such a hood.
My goal is for my future snake on the list I really want to have the false water cobra
I love hoggies they’re so adorably derpy!
so cute!
Awesome! Thanks! 🙏 👏
Glad you liked it 😊
Garters are super adorable and I would love to have few girls together in a big enclosure❤ However they are so small as babies I'm afraid of loosing/not being able to feed them, I shy away😅
Also falsies are and will always be one of my favorite species but they are such poopnators I would never want to own one😂
I have a mangrove snake ans i have had one before and neither had bad tempers lol. Not even at night which is what people often say is their most feisty time of day. I have not experiences a feisty mangrove. But maybe i have just been lucky.
mangroves are very cool, glad yours are tamed a bit
Where would you get the fish to feed a garter snake? Are there places to buy them in bulk frozen or do they need to be live?
My first ever venomous was a Boiga Dendrophila. They are magnificent, defense so it trains you, but the Venom not medically significant. The two times I've been tagged I've only had one reaction. It was slightly worse then a bee sting.
I have kind of a stupid question but... I'm considering getting a hognose snake, and I'm pretty sure I'm allergic to mosquitoes, so their venom might actually affect me a bit more than it would other people. Since the venom is in the snake's saliva, can their tongue flicks (if they lick/tongue flick on your skin) cause a reaction?
Bro! These videos are bullshit! In a good way, you show me reptiles I've never even seen and now I need/want! Love the videos mate and channel absolutely amazing content I know this video is 2 years ago as I'm messaging but I've binged pretty much all your videos now hahaha keep up the good work
Do you think it would be Ok to put my new pair M and F of Egyptian False Cobra’s together housing wise? They were in the same container when I got them but
My favourite rear-fanged snakes are chrysopelea ornata and chrysopelea paradisi. Their "common" name is paradise flying snakes. sadly they are
1. Not as usually kept as a pet, so its hard to find one and impossible to find captive breed ones
2. Expensive and you always have to import them
3. hard to care for and nothing for a beginner which I am :(
Mangrove (any sub) is my dream snake but I know they are pissy and I would want to handle the angry bastard. Such beautiful snakes
very cool!
to the hood on the false water cobra:
I think it’s covalent evolution. There are some animals that look similar to another species that doesn’t live in that area, for example hedgehogs and Echidna, one is a Placentalia and one is a Marsupial, but they look very similar. Or the three fingered sloth and the two fingered sloth, who are not really closely related but show lots of similarities despite the very uncommon and kinda ineffective lifestyle.
So i guess the false water cobra developed a hood because it gave an fitness advantage (fitness in evolution) of some kind, just like it did with “real” cobras.
Can u do a video on false Egyptian cobra
Bamboo false cobra look amazing
False Water Cobras aren't named that way because they can hood up. There's another snake genus, Boulengerina, that they resemble. Snakes in this genus are commonly called water cobras but because the FWC is not actually related it's a "false" water cobra
So far as the false water cobras hooding up, and this is just an opinion, but just as allot of snakes will rattle their tails as a rattlesnake does as a premptive defense mechanism we consider it mimicking. I don't think they are necessarily mimicking anything, it's just a defense mechanism because it makes noise and gets a potential predators attention, and this is just pre disposed in most all snakes, and it's their natural instinct. Rattle snakes just have a better system for which to do it, like an adder has a better hiss mechanism than a boa does. Just like some snakes hood up so it makes them look bigger to potential predators and their able to do this because of the nature of their physiology. Allot of snakes hood up if they can. Mambas for example, but they aren't considered to be mimicking cobras, I've seen eastern hognose snakes do this commonly as well. I think a boa would hood for defense if it could but it can't. It hisses, no one says they are mimicking an adder though. I've seen cobras roll over and play dead just like a hog nose snake, but I've never heard it said they were "mimicking" a hognose snake, just that "look they are playing dead just like a hognose snake does". I think they are doing whatever their predisposed to do naturally to protect themselves, and I believe the defense mechanisms are spread out among all species and we just assume it's one mimicking another because one is dangerous and the other may not be.... make sense? It's just my opinion however, I began to think this when I first started keeping snakes many years ago and realized they damn near all rattle their tails especially when they are little and "mimicking" isn't going on in their little lima bean size brains, just food and survival and the traits are each ones very own. No mimicking going on.... just an opinion.
I would ask the question why does a Cobra hood up? I think the answer is to make it self look bigger. A hognose snake doesn’t quite have a cobra hood but it does something similar with its upper body and I think the same goes for the false water cobra
Well I made the comment during the false cobra narrative I didn’t know you were going to have hognose as you’re number one I’m thinking about deleting the comment
I love my Baron Racer :) I can make you a video of it lol
I'd love to use your footage if you'd allow me
Wickens Wicked Reptiles sure. No problem. I can contact you on FB
How about the Egyptian false cobra there very cool do you know much about them?
I’m sure the false cobra hoods up to make itself look bigger than it is
yes, for sure
I find the eastern hognoses in my yard all the time
Can you do an episode on reptiles that don’t eat live feeders. We have tortoises but my daughter wants to get a lizard. And my wife doesn’t like mice or bugs
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I did. Less than 24/hrs after my question. Epic man. Thank you so much
I think Pennsylvania has a law against keeping native snakes. I'm not sure though.
NY same way cant keep Species that are local in capitivity
so strange eh!
Like the shirt I live in Jasper just not Canada lol
Jasper Canada is the most beautiful place on earth!
@@WickensWickedReptiles I live in Jasper Alabama
Here in Georgia, it is illegal to keep any native non-venomous snake... They include the Garter, and I ask myself, why,,,the Garter is venomous..and the law, same law, says you can keep any native venomous snake...So..yeah..
so silly!
Hey Adam can you please talk about rhino rat snakes I think there very cool
yes! they are wicked
Love our fwc :) gotta be one of the less common ones out there
I love gerter snakes
me too!
A garter snake is rear fanged Venomous I had no clue
yes indeed
I want san Francisco garter snakes to be legal for breeding and reintroduction programs
I have a question and I would love if some one could answer this for me. I saw what I thought was a garter snake but cause it had the 3 white stripes and like a black grey color but than I saw another one the same color playing dead was I was racking leaves It was upside down and I thought it was dead but I poked it a couple times and it popped and ran right into a bush so I don’t know if it was a garter or a hog nose and it was to fast and small for me to see the head?
where are you located? really important to know here
Wickens Wicked Reptiles south east of Ohio near Cincinnati but there are woods all around the property