Michigan has become the team that the good Big Ten Teams beat to prove they are for real any given year. If there's a worse kind of hell, it's probably the Detroit Lions.
That’s a good way to put it . We have created so many different threads of thought over the last 15 years to find hope and optimism but it just never materializes . We are the litmus test for the real B1G contenders
It's the same s*** every year. Alright wasn't true last year but every other year Michigan wins the first 6 or 7 and loses the last 4. Am I the only one that sees this pattern? And now the talk will begin is Jim Harbaugh done? Same s*** different year.
When RichRod was on the hot seat, reporters would ask him about job security. When Brady Hoke was on the hot seat, reporters would ask him about job security. So far I haven't heard this question asked to Harbaugh. His job must be safe. The end of the Harbaugh era? Not so fast.
As a Michigan state guy, it’s clear to see the Spartans we’re Michigan’s wake up call, somehow Wolverines have found a way to rally the rest of the season out, beat up Ohio state, just smashed Iowa to win the Big10 for the first time since 2004, a Golden 2 seed ticket to the college football playoffs, and chance to play for a national championship
This game was definitely a wake up call after this loss they began going on a run the next few weeks of that season and the next 2. It all began November 27th, 2021.
@@josephbarr1659 God those were very disappointing times for we Buckeye fans...He might of had 3 or 4 National Championship teams during his time... That makes it even worse to think about !
I always love your commentary Steve. Most of the time you sound like you are reading my mind. What I also love is you always have the stats to back up what you say. (20-21 wow!) I never really knew much about Harbaugh until he signed with Michigan. Right from the get go, something seemed off. When interviewed, his answers never seemed real. They were always very simple and lacked a thoughtful source. It was just always cliche. When a coach really cares and has the tools to fix issues that plague their teams, you can tell because they correct problems and they make positive things happen. U-M always seems to play tight in the big games. I just don't think that will change and so, I agree, and I said this last year, it is just a matter of time. The JH experiment just has not panned out. Thanks again, Steve. It is a pleasure listening to a passionate, yet honest and realistic Michigan fan. I mourn along with you.
I see a lot of parallels with Harbaugh and Frost. My Huskers always seem to just not quite get there. There is a lot of talk that seems hollow and uninspired after losses and you feel like he really doesn't have the answers or even know what's wrong, let alone know how to fix it. I am wondering if we hung on Frostba couple more years if he would just end up being a lower version of Harbaugh. Right now Frost can't even beat the teams he is supposed to beat. But even if he does start to beat a few of them, if he can't beat the big name teams here and there, what is the point of keeping him? I feel your pain!
@@welchsmcgee6235 Exactly, so naturally we repeatedly tried to run right up the middle on almost every first down. The problem is playcalling. It’s the playcalling. It is the playcalling.
As an Ohio State fan who grew up in the 90’s and was actually present when Springs slipped in ‘96, it’s like a dream. I think I speak for all Ohio State fans that lived through the 90’s. Sad Michigan Fan will never get old.
@@ChrisHebert00 Yeah I'm not an OSU fan but even with this win I wouldn't brag about 2-15 which is where you're at right now. Win 2 out of the next 3 against the Bucks then the story will change.
I was there in '96 too, when Shawn Springs slipped. I was up in C deck with a bird's eye view of the horrors on that day. Gotta give Michigan their props today though. They got us this time. Our guys came out of that tunnel looking flat and uninspired. Played that way all game long too. At one point during the game I even commented that we don't 'deserve' to win this game. I can't explain why our Buckeyes didn't show up to The Game this year, but Coach Day had better get it fixed, STAT.
@@matthuntwork2055 i LOATHED TRESSEL-BALL. Hated Urban's underachieving => year after year with the best talent. Day has squandered 2 almost 3 years now. so glad we won in spite of urban meyer in 2014 coopers teams were much more fun to watch and they ended a few years ranked higher than any meyer year with jtb or braxton. tressel only won with a rb he hated and cooper's team in 1998 was better and more fun than any tressel team. they've all utilized the wrong offensive scheme, play calling and/or qb-1
Replays clearly showed Thorne's shin was down before he fumbled into the end zone. The touchdown was rightly overturned. What I don't understand is how the refs didn't call a penalty on the Michigan player trying to choke Kenneth Walker III.
As a Spartan fan, other than getting the win, my favorite part about this game was just how good it was. It looked like a real top 10 match up and one of the best games I've seen this season. The whole country was watching too. Steve is taking his L like a man here. No excuses. Michigan had chances to win this game. I think Michigan is good. However, I would also want Jim gone if I were a fan.
He is making excuses all over the place with the stupid ref talk and if play X went different, if play Y went different, and if play Z went different. Those are all excuses that are unacceptable. Not once besides KW3 did he say MSU was the reason. The funny thing is that he is playing right into Tucker's defensive strategy and he doesn't even know it.
Branson Walter well, KW3 was the reason you all won, as he had all your touchdowns and half of your yards, definitely a major part of the comeback. Reed had the one drive he made a few catches too that was very good. Biggest reason Sparty ended up winning was a very bad Michigan turnover with about 7 minutes to go in the 4th right after UM got a good defensive stop and set up with great field position by Henning. I’m sure Tucker wanted his team to go down 16 pts in mid 3rd quarter, great strategy on his part.
@@bransonwalter5588 He talked about how he thought the refs were bad, but he doesn't imply that it's the reason they lost the game. He's putting the blame exactly were it belongs. On Harbaugh. He even admitted that Mel Tucker already has his program looking better than his. I mean this is a guy with a Michigan perspective and it's not like he's pretending to be a neutral party. So you're going to get more talk from the Michigan perspective.
As a Buckeye fan, I agree on the entertainment factor. This was a great game to watch, and even better as a fan with no emotional involvement in the outcome. 👍 One thing that I will say, however, is that both of these teams appear highly capable of beating any team in the B1G, including my Buckeyes. It's definitely a cause for concern. I am definitely a little bit worried about this year.
Hey Steve, I'm with you as long as you can guarantee that the next coach will be better. Here's the real problem: This isn't a Harbaugh problem, it's a Michigan problem. This has happened under ever UM HC over the past 50 years. When Bo, Gary, and Lloyd, were beating OSU and MSU, they were losing to Minnesota, Illinois, and Purdue. We've got one national championship since the end of WWII. So, this is not gonna change until Michigan changes the following: 1. Hires a non-Michigan Man to lead the program 2. Modernizes their offensive philosophy 3. Lowers their academic standards 4. Starts recruiting their region better than anyone else in their conference 5. Finally, redefines the term ELITE to match the definition we fans have. Michigan already thinks they're elite, so why change anything (See their Basketball program). And let's be honest, it's never gonna happen! Michigan doesn't care enough to evolve in order to be elite at football. They're happy being a solid program, with elite student athletes. Just not on the field! Only in the classroom.
Your post is why most of America dislikes Michigan. lower their academic standard? Elite students? Michigan’s standard for football players is no higher than many of the better teams in the country. And many schools have as high of higher standard for students. I got in just on my SAT with no grades submitted. That wouldn’t happen at many top schools.
Wow! That might be one of the dumbest posts ever. The University of Michigan is rated year in and year out one of the most prestigious public universities in America. It's been called the Stanford of the East! It is just a notch below some of America's Ivy League Schools in terms of academic prowess. Next time, do some research before you flap your gums. And btw, it's not arrogance if you can back it up. Michigan is the winningest program in college football history! Its won more Big10 titles than any other Big10 team! They've won 11 National Championships in their history! They've put players in the NFL such as Tom Brady, Charles Woodson, Ty Law, Steve Hutchinson, Dan Dierdorf, and many more Hall of Famers just to name a few! UM dominates the All Big 10 Academic team as well pretty much every year. And, finally, UM has won more games against OSU and MSU historically than they've lost! All of these facts are why regardless of how much the Bucknuts and Sparty would love to be Michigan, they never will be. Even when Michigan loses to OSU and/or MSU, they're still the bigger headline! And they always will be. The rest of America can hate them, but I doubt they even notice. GO BLUE!!!
@@stevenvargo2440 You are why I love delusional Ichigan fans who still count on wins before the Titanic sank to bolster their claims. With the exception of the horrible Cooper era, OSU has pretty much dominated the last 70 or so years in the series, even Earle Bruce had a winning record against Ichigan but still got fired due to mediocrity. The overall you guys cling to is about to come to an end in both championships and head to head.
I once had a Michigan fan tell me they'd never try to get Fickell because he's a former Buckeye. Some of them somehow have no clue that Bo coached at Ohio St.
@@grumpypoof9648 Luke Fickell is the answer, great coach, not good coach, they win the Big in 1to 2 seasons, but of course Manuel has burnt scrambled eggs for brains and will keep jimmy boy, another top program grabs Fickell and becomes elite, while UofM stays the punchline that it is.
@@jasonferguson6753 well I'm a State fan so please don't get him. Lol. He turned us down. Michigan has the resources for a great coach to be very successful. If I were a Michigan fan I'd be done with Harbaugh. I think he's had enough time to where If he was going to win big games he'd have done it by now.
Every game is the same when you watch Jimmy, staring out on the field, mouth agape, Buddy Holly glasses. Always questioning the officials. Why don't you ever see him coaching up a player during the game?. I watched Saturday's game - OSU fan here - and what a game. Both teams played their asses off. Michigan State was at home and got things rolling in the fourth quarter, and that interception at the end was a great play by the MSU defensive back. Give the Spartans credit, despite all of the holding calls that weren't called. Penn State did the same thing against OSU. Watch the tape. OSU was getting held, tackled even, on several plays and no flags. Typical at all levels today.
Please post a video of Coach Tucker "coaching up a player" from Saturday's game. Give me one of Nick Saban. Head coaches will yell at a player, make a passing comment, or console a player, but head coaches don't "coach up" players during games. It's too late then. They also don't go out and fill gaps, catch passes, assign blocking changes, keep players healthy, keep players from fumbling, etc. I'm as frustrated as anyone, but the players themselves have already said that they made too many mistakes, and I think they are right. They played a great game and made too many mistakes against a top 5 team, and other than the too much defensive rotation chaos, I thought the coaches had a good game plan.
Well steve i see your all wond up. Love it. I agree jim should go. ( SAD ) but i think i would only let him go if they can get a luke fikcal kinda couch.
Hello Gentlemen, Michigan State fan here. This was the best installment of this rivalry in my lifetime. I agree that the call at the end of the first half was no where near enough to overturn it. Also, my heart breaks for cade. Dude played the best game of his career, left it all out on the field. Michigan and State both proved that both teams are LEGIT. Have a good week everyone
Class.....our problems go beyond this game. We've been dropping big games for decades. Not one surprise, storm the field, pull goalpost down victory.....not one.
@@johngalt6838 As steve said, there is only one constant. Different players, different assistants, same guy at the head. I hope for your sake that the university decides to make a change.
You know, I subscribed to this channel to rejoice in the tears of the Arrogant. But even I feel bad for you guys now! (I do like the format and The Bigger Ten videos as well. So, you’re a UA-cam champ in any event!)
Steve used to be happy when he first started this ... Can't even watch anymore TBH. Hard to be happy when your favorite childhood thing is getting smacked around all Saturday for 15+ yrs straight.
Michigan has always been relevant, even in their worst seasons. There are books about it....Michigan was always in the top 3 teams used in Online games for EA Sports' NCAA series during their worst years. I can understand the frustration of State...I get it, I really do.
The Curse of Mike Hart Since the "little brother" comment Michigan is 4-10, no titles compared to 3 titles for the Spartans, only 2 bowl wins. Keep saying it, please.
REPORTER ( TO JIM HARCHOKE) : YOU'RE 0-6 AGAINST OHIO STATE....WHATS YOUR STATEGY THIS YEAR JIM HARCHOKE: I'M JUST GOING TO TURNAROUND, BEND OVER, SPREAD MY MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS BUTT CHEEKS AND LET RYAN DAY POUND ME FOR 60 MINUTES!!!
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! "But, but, but....I beat SOUTHWEST DAKOTA STATE at Fargo COMMUNITY COLLEGE!!!!" - JIM HARCHOKE justifying to Warde Manuel why he deserves a 10 million dollar raise and 10 year extension
Come on man. 10-2 isn't THAT bad for you guys. In fact it's a big improvement over recent seasons. Nebraska would LOVE to have one of those 9-3 seasons they fired coach Pelini over. Go Buckeyes. See you on the 27th unless you can find a reason to skip "The Game"
I have been watching your stuff for some time. Great commentary. Keep it it up. Go Bucks. Go Big Ten. ...I hate to say it but we need y'all to be good ....Go Blue?
@@kleindavis550 That’s the definition of a “Michigan Man”. How bad is the UM basketball program going to have to get? How many losses to Izzo are unacceptable? It doesn’t matter…JWAUN HOWARD IS A “MICHIGAN MAN”. Hoke was the closest, willing guy available. He didn’t play for Bo, but he sat at his feet, at his right hand. So they went with him.
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! congrats, you won a lot of games before colored tv’s and black people were allowed to play college football. Hang a banner
Steve, I agree with you 100%. We both knew what was going to happen when Michigan got to the second half of the season. This scenario plays out every year and will continue to do so, as long as Harbaugh is coach. If he doesn't get fired at the end of this season, we can only hope he moves back to the NFL.
It's unreal it's like we got blown out and laid an egg. I'm more impressed with Michigan now than I was before. I'm sick of Michigan fans that don't have a clue
@@timothyraymond973 more impressed that Harbaugh choked a 30-14 lead in the 3rd qt??? With 1 guy beating them??? With a team loaded with 3* guys FOH you are delusional 20-21 no coach would survive that garbage ass record
@@BuzzLOLOL like Oregon & Alabama;; ohio.state football have a short memory Oregon beat Ohio state football in September 2021 ; Alabama beat Ohio state football January 11 2021; should say naked butt spanking;; Georgia look unbeatable except to Alabama/ nick pre/ Saban; college football 2021/ 2022 championship ; Georgia vs Alabama sec championship game 2021
@@generallordjowbra8871 😂 there are times when it’s actually a benefit being both a Michigan and a Detroit Lions fan, you are well conditioned to seeing the sense of humor in disappointment!
The Refs did not lose this game. Poor play calling and execution lost it. Don’t give JH a pass again when he is clearly responsible. Fifty plus million dead presidents say so. The administration had a chance to move on but they brought Jim “can’t get right” Harbaugh back.
HILARIOUS 😆. You Michigan Fans finally win something meaningful. You convinced me that OK ✅ is good enough…. You all deserve Jimmy “Can’t get Right” Harbaugh. You all deserve paying Jimmy to stare up at that game clock with that STUPID expression on his face like he can’t figure out where he is. You all deserve giving him a lifetime contract. You all deserve watching Mel Tucker opening up a restaurant in E. Lansing called Urban/Tucker Pint House w 7-0 Room 2.0. You all deserve watching Jimmy agree to answer your questions but not your insults. You all deserve to watch this Snake Oil Salesman glean 50+ million more out of your public university to win 65-70% of his games. Congratulations YOU FINALLY WIN. Hope you get what you deserve. 😂 FYI/ yes I would take 41 yr old Campbell w a huge upside over Jimmy, but why am I trying to convince the last apologist for Jimmy…. U 🤡 Lol.
@@Zebnew 2-5 his first season, too early to tell. He's off to a good start this year with a few lucky breaks in some big games and some unexpected gems from the transfer portal. Remember JH had Michigan at 10-0 his 2nd year...we'll see if Mel keeps it up.
1970 AP - Nebraska GIGGLES!!! 1970 UPI - Texas GIGGLES!!! 1970 Lost their bowl game and finished FIFTH (!!!) in the rankings - Chokehio Büttguys No problem...Ole Granny Hayes declared FIFTH PLACE NATTY TIME!!! LMFAO!!!!! THEY FINISHED *FIFTH* AND STILL TRY TO CLAIM A NATTY!!!!! GIGGLES!!!!!!!!!!
You know, I am an Ohio St fan, but I respect your knowledge and insights. You are right on and have an excellent show! You have to get rid of Harbaugh and get a coach that knows how to win big games, because it affects the whole Big 10 negatively when Michigan doesn’t win these big games and is a laughing stock nationwide!!
Another Ohio state fan here, and I echo the above. Steve is right on with knowledge, insights and is really entertaining. I feel your pain, remembering 1988-2000, when the Buckeyes couldn't BUY a win against Michigan, even with the much better team. So much of this game is played between the ears (attitude), and it all comes from the coach.
Steve, I’m a genuinely concerned Buckeye. Bro. I don’t feel bad, but I feel bad if that makes sense. But as usual, great podcast, with good insight into our hated rival, and what a sensible Michigan fan feels.
As a Michigan fan I get it. I hate OSU, but at some point you have to respect what they have done and continue to do. It's sad, that this is the greatest rivalry in college, sorry, was the greatest rivalry. It's sad, watching a team I love, go from big ten titles to I pray OSU doesn't drop 80 and embarss us again. It's so bad, I would take a win against them ever 4 years. Or just be competitive. I honestly mean this, I'm okay losing every year to OSU if it's under 7 than what I've went through as a fan for the last 30 years
Lol Michigan is still well above the average. Any metric you use they are above average. You just can't quite dance with the elites which pisses you off so greatly because you are one of the oldest and most blue blooded of all. We get it bud just try to keep some perspective. There are still 100+ division 1 FBS programs that would trade you positions.
@@adamappell1212 You are so right! If you looked at Michigan's record in the 80's and 90's, it was the same thing. Except for '97. Other than that, how many times was Michigan 11-1? Not many
You are such a fan of Bo. You have him in your opening sequence. I admired him as well but, please tell us, did Bo win a National Championship? How many wins on average per year did Bo have?????
As crazy as this sounds, this is the best this team has looked since 2016. And even crazier, I’m not all that upset at this game. I didn’t think this team could look as good as they did, and they surpassed my expectations for this game. I’m hard on Harbaugh, always will be. But if this team plays as well as they did last week against OSU, we have a shot. If he looses that, then he’s a goner because what this game showed me is that we 100% have the talent to play with anyone.
I gotta agree with you. Michigan looked really good, especially the QB and wrs. It was a shame someone had to lose, MSU just made 1 or 2 more plays. Plus the have a star RB
"Look this good"?? Trading field goals for touchdowns will be an "L" against good teams who can drive the ball on your defense. They have no chance against the Buckeyes unless they improve in the Red Zone!
@@timhughes3973 I said what I said. That game was the best even with everything that went “wrong” if they correct mistakes they can 100% beat OSU. Seeing them rise to that level or play makes me say it’s OSU or out.
Steve is delusional if he thinks Warde Manuel is going to fire a 10-2 Jim Harbaugh. He starts saying these things with every loss. Harbaugh haters, I am sorry you will be disappointed.
You will find out in a few years that MSU will be a much more dominant school for football and you will wish that you fired him years ago let alone now.
@@bransonwalter5588 the transfer portal doesn't always work my friend. Unless Mel tucker can get his guys in there he will be a flash in the pan. I really hope he does good because it's good for the conference(and he was a cool guy when he coached at osu) but its tough to recruit the proper talent for your schemes.
@@HuddshouseofRockNMetal As an LSU fan, I’d say there’s a small chance Tucker is our next coach. I certainly wouldn’t bet on it. I think the Mel Tucker to LSU smoke is combination of LSU sending feelers out, Tucker’s agent trying to leverage MSU for a raise, and Michigan media desperately wishing Tucker will leave. I don’t think he’s even a Top 5 candidate in our AD’s wishlist. If we hire Tucker, it’s because a bunch of guys higher on the list told us no. Probably including Dave Aranda and Billy Napier. And that’s not a slight on Mel Tucker. I’m very impressed with how quickly he’s turned around Michigan State, and I certainly wouldn’t be upset if LSU ends up hiring him. He’d probably compete for national championships here. But I don’t think people outside of Baton Rouge understand how much of a dumpster fire LSU football is right now. Coach O has completely cratered the program since the Clemson game. We didn’t have enough healthy scholarship players to practice last week. The locker room and team culture is completely broken. The morale of the fanbase is the lowest it’s been since 1999. The next coach will have to do almost a complete rebuild, both of culture and talent. This next hire is the most important hire LSU has made since Saban. With Texas and OU joining the SEC and Saban retiring at some point in the next 5-10 years, the next coach will either embed us in mediocrity or rebuild a powerhouse program capable of being a dynasty. Our AD has to get the hire correct, and I don’t think he’ll take a chance on a guy like Tucker with a small sample size as head coach. He’ll shoot for a big fish, like he has with all his hires, and settle for a safe option if he can’t land one.
Let's face it... Michigan is not an elite team anymore ...and hasn't been for 20 years... They got the best looking helmets...and fight song... but that's about it... I have given up thinking they will be anything but just an above average team from now on....
HAIL TO THE EPIC CHOKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS....1/2 SHARED NATTY WITH NOTRE DAME AP POLL EVER IN 1948 I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GIVE HARCHOKE A LIFETIME CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMF-9NATTYS-AO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember 1978 sugar bowl bear Bryant Alabama football 35 vs Ohio state football/ woody Hayes 6 ; naked butt spanking with metal paddle;; Ohio state football fans ;; Georgia football or Alabama football/ nick Saban pick your rat 🐀 poison & trap in playoff 2021/ 2022; waiting for your Michigan state football/ Mel tucker blackeye for coach Ryan day
Revenge tour rescheduled ( Michigan state) 2022 ;; Revenge tour 2021 Indiana cross out :& completed; ( Penn state ) next on Michigan football Revenge tour 2021 ;;;November 13 2021 ;; Ohio state football fans got their own ( revenge tour) Oregon; Alabama/ nick Saban ;;;; laugh;; laugh ;; Michigan state revenge tour 2022 Purdue football;; Michigan basketball/ juwan Howard ❤ winter 2022 revenge tour ;;;;; Michigan state basketball;; Ohio state basketball
Michigan State has won the Big 10, made a College Football Playoff, fallen from grace, became mediocre, fired their head coach, hired a NEW coach, built a better program than Michigan, and returned to Big 10 title contender ALL IN THE TIME JIM HARBAUGH HAS BEEN COACH.
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! If Canada and the USA had the same amount of gold silver and bronze medals going back to the 2000 Olympics. People aren't going to be talking about the USA, they are going to be talking about how Canada is kicking a power house countries ass in today's day and age.
The AD for Michigan sits next to satan and satan says, I think they have had enough torture with Harbaugh ? AD states, please give me one more season with him !
Steve you and I and everyone else know he is not getting fired this year for losing 3 games no matter what sort of political pressure the fans or media put on the program. We are all going to have to wait one more excruciating season before it ends lest he resigns after the season.
For a few years I really wanted Harbaugh at Michigan thinking it wasnt going to happen. Then it does...and I have to say that his biggest problem is the admiration for Bo Schembechlers system. Harbaugh just has too much Schembechler in him. It didn't work for Schembechler in bowl games and it isn't working our Harbaugh now
REPORTER ( TO JIM HARCHOKE) : YOU'RE 0-6 AGAINST OHIO STATE....WHATS YOUR STATEGY THIS YEAR JIM HARCHOKE: I'M JUST GOING TO TURNAROUND, BEND OVER, SPREAD MY MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS BUTT CHEEKS AND LET RYAN DAY POUND ME FOR 60 MINUTES!!!
1970 AP - Nebraska GIGGLES!!! 1970 UPI - Texas GIGGLES!!! 1970 Lost their bowl game and finished FIFTH (!!!) in the rankings - Chokehio Büttguys No problem...Ole Granny Hayes declared FIFTH PLACE NATTY TIME!!! LMFAO!!!!! THEY FINISHED *FIFTH* AND STILL TRY TO CLAIM A NATTY!!!!! GIGGLES!!!!!!!!!
I hope this is the last "Michigan" man in charge for a bit. It's time for Michigan to move into the 21st century and shed the emotional ties to a time that is long gone. A full generation of irrelevance is enough.
Damn I love this show. Look forward to every Tuesday. One quick point. Big Ten officiating is just horrible. Every game its blown call after blown call. Something has to change.
oh, we can't possibly hold the refs accountable to do their jobs if we make a single mistake in the game, so says every sparty out there in defending so many "wins" they got in part from a controversial call going their way.
If Michigan had won on Saturday, could very well have happened, and they were 11-0 going against OSU and lost by 13... you probably would say the same, right?
Michigan #90.He did something 👀. He should not be able to play for the rest of the year. Unsportsmanlike. God said do unto others as you will have them do unto you 🙏. Amen
I’m a Michigan fan, and Harbaugh literally makes me hate Michigan football. I had no expectations for them this year. And of course they have to go 7-0. They just had to pull us in to kick us in the nuts with the biggest game on the line with our instate rival. Smdh
I agree. And what’s so painful is that we had the talent and execution to win. Not perfect, but good enough to win. Instead, our playcalling was downright sabotage.
We were the better team and had the better players. Also had the the bigger budget and higher paid coaching. Still got outclassed when it mattered. So sad.
@@TylerRayHamblin We get outcoached every week. Our talent on the field often overcomes it, but I often wonder if there is a mole on our coaching staff. What other coaching staff in the country would decide to just run out the clock when up by 16 in the middle of the 3rd quarter?
I’m sorry, but exactly who would be a sufficient replacement for Jim? I think the new staff deserves the opportunity to see it through. You don’t fire him because of a 4 point loss on the road to a Top 10 team where you were jobbed by the refs
Would you watch Steve if they were good and beat OSU? I don’t think I would. I enjoy a Michigan fan like Steve talking about how good OSU is and how bad Michigan is in comparison. Is sick really.
Steve you literally have the same things to say that I do. I have been a michigan fan my whole life. It’s so sad watching the same crap every year we have not beat ohio state in what seems like forever and cannot win big games. Thank you for doing the show every week and saying the truth! Go Blue
We fixed that a few weeks after this game and went on a run. 2021-2023 Span Overall record: 40-3 Rivals record (Michigan State and Ohio State): 5-1 Top Ten Record: 7-3 3 Peat wins over Ohio State 3 Peat Big 10 titles 3 Straight CFP appearances A CFP Rose Bowl Champs A National Title
I keep seeing this graphic "3-9 vs Michigan State & Ohio State." No, he's 3-4 against Michigan State & 0-5 against Ohio State, not to mention he missed out on an OSU beat down last year. Let's keep it real.
I will make this short and sweet, I'm sooooooo TIRED of being on the losing side of a close , big , meaningful game!!! What good is beating northern Michigan, and Rutgers, if we are always going to lose too Michigan, Penn state, and Ohio state??? Is it too MUCH to ask for Michigan to win the BIG ten? Or at least get to the game in Indianapolis?? I don't want to hear about how Ohio st is so TALENTED and in a league of their own!! In the time that harbaugh has been here ( 6 years). Both Michigan state and Penn state have a big ten title!!! Why can Michigan state win the BIG ten and not us?? Penn state won the big ten in 2016!!! Why can't we????? I hate to even say this but, harbaugh is the worst big game coach I have ever seen... Did you ever look at what his record is against top 10 teams on the road? Do you know what his record is against top 25 teams as an underdog?? Look it...it's unbelievable.... When are we going to adress this? Harbaugh has been like this since San Francisco, he comes out of the gate like gangbusters, scores fast, gets a lead and then gets ultra conservative and ends up letting the other team back in the game, and ultimately.....loses the game!!
You get the jist!! Western Michigan, northern Michigan,whatever, the point is he beats the bad teams, and loses to any team that is equal or better than Michigan!!!
You're worried about getting the names of these teams correctly, you should be worried about the fact that this coach is 0-6 against Ohio state... Worry about those facts
@Joe M I hear what you're say bro,. But at some point,. AFTER 7 years,. And a 4- 16 record against top 20: teams,. You have to look at the coach... He is constantly on the losing end of a close, big ,. Meaningful game!?? Come on now. Michigan state won the big ten in the last 7 years,. Penn state won in 2016,. Why can't we.
Hey Steve. At least we have juwan Howard at Michigan. He can win the big games! Michigan football just chokes. It's very frustrating. They'll never win the big one with khakis Jesus
@@bw5043 wouldn't call it a choke, B1G champs, Elite 8 in his first Tournament appearance, #1 recruiting class of 2021. What are you watching my friend?
It was a first down in 2016 and it’s still a first down now. I love your channel but get over it Steve. There was a view from a camera directly above them that showed the ball was across. I agree the officials were bad in the game but as you said Hairball should not blow double digit leads to a school they call “little brother”
No there wasn't a direct over head. The best possible shot doesn't show the first down or anything and you can't see the ball so you have to infer where it is. The biggest issue with it is it was such a close and big call, and they didn't even bring the chains out. Just called it a first down.
If I put aside emotions and look at this objectively that was a great game Saturday and the playoff rankings reflect that. But UM once again found a way to lose a close, big game. Steve said it perfectly: In college football you don’t sit on a 30-14 lead with 5 minutes left in the third quarter. This routinely happens under Harbaugh to go to this 1980’s conservative style play calling. However, as much as it was a good game, these teams will lose to OSU this month. Both just don’t have the talent and killer instinct OSU has and has had for about two decades now. Culture does not matter as much in the nfl, but in college it means everything
And letting the Michigan players pose for sideline group selfies when they went up 30-14 did not age well, did it? No way that happens on Tuck's (or Dantonio's) side.
@@johngalt6838 I agree! Maybe there was some hope the culture had made a drastic change, but losing a game like that just continues a pattern that has happened for 7 years now
@@timhughes3973 nah that part doesn’t really bug me as much. A lot of teams do stuff like this on defense after a turnover. To me that’s just kids having fun. Let them have fun I’m ok with that no matter what team it is
@@timhughes3973 Yeah the group photo thing I could do without ! Just seems cheesy to me. And then to get smacked down afterwards really makes it look stupid !
How big was the call back of the fumble? Not just the 4pts, but actually it would likely affect MSU going for 2 after their TDs. If Michigan goes into half up 27-14 and everything is the same with possessions in the second half. Michigan would go up 34-14, MSU likely does not go for 2 on their next two touchdowns, because they are down 20, not 16. Then it would be 34-28 roughly when Michigan would kick a field goal to go up 37-28, forcing MSU to now try an onside after their next TD.
The 10 Minute War
8 mins of Steve venting
2 mins of Mark saying uh-huh
He is the Mark Levin (the Great One) of Big Ten Football. We Buckeyes love Steve Deace!
Steve was growing in confidence and kinda had some swagger about it, then boom 💥, its the same ole issues, and he is correct
Lmaoooooooo
Yeah this song and dance is old! Either your in or out no halfway in between!!! 😡
@@douggwinner8155 thats the 7-0 start.
Michigan has become the team that the good Big Ten Teams beat to prove they are for real any given year. If there's a worse kind of hell, it's probably the Detroit Lions.
Goddam that hurts. It’s so true though.
That’s a good way to put it . We have created so many different threads of thought over the last 15 years to find hope and optimism but it just never materializes . We are the litmus test for the real B1G contenders
It's the same s*** every year. Alright wasn't true last year but every other year Michigan wins the first 6 or 7 and loses the last 4. Am I the only one that sees this pattern? And now the talk will begin is Jim Harbaugh done? Same s*** different year.
EXACTLY!! The Detroit Lions of college FB…
Very true....sadly
I can’t be certain, but Steve seems a little upset 😳
Lmfao 🤣 I’ve been waiting for this
Your comment and the one above it are classics.
@@richardschulz286 lol 😂
😂
I was on James Yoder he’s not happy either lmbo
When RichRod was on the hot seat, reporters would ask him about job security. When Brady Hoke was on the hot seat, reporters would ask him about job security. So far I haven't heard this question asked to Harbaugh. His job must be safe. The end of the Harbaugh era? Not so fast.
How quickly UM fans forget the Rich Rod and Hoke era's winning 5-7 games a year. That was fun!
How quick michigan fans forget that Brady Hoke won Coach of the year his 1st year and the Sugar Bowl?
As a Michigan state guy, it’s clear to see the Spartans we’re Michigan’s wake up call, somehow Wolverines have found a way to rally the rest of the season out, beat up Ohio state, just smashed Iowa to win the Big10 for the first time since 2004, a Golden 2 seed ticket to the college football playoffs, and chance to play for a national championship
This game was definitely a wake up call after this loss they began going on a run the next few weeks of that season and the next 2. It all began November 27th, 2021.
This didn’t age well and I’m thrilled! Go Blue!!!!!
Yeah, you guys cheated! congrats!
Steve, I think you should give Jimmy one more year. As an OSU fan, Jimmy will come around just give him a chance. YEAH
Damn right he'll come around. PRAYING that he never gets fired. Just as I'm sure Michigan fans wanted us to keep John Cooper forever.
Idk man, I like competition. 2006 and 2016 were the best games this century (IMO) and it’s because of competition.
*O-H!*
@@josephbarr1659 God those were very disappointing times for we Buckeye fans...He might of had 3 or 4 National Championship teams during his time... That makes it even worse to think about !
Give Harbaugh 30 more years... and Day 50 more...
Really? I think so too after today. YEAH
I always love your commentary Steve. Most of the time you sound like you are reading my mind. What I also love is you always have the stats to back up what you say. (20-21 wow!) I never really knew much about Harbaugh until he signed with Michigan. Right from the get go, something seemed off. When interviewed, his answers never seemed real. They were always very simple and lacked a thoughtful source. It was just always cliche. When a coach really cares and has the tools to fix issues that plague their teams, you can tell because they correct problems and they make positive things happen. U-M always seems to play tight in the big games. I just don't think that will change and so, I agree, and I said this last year, it is just a matter of time. The JH experiment just has not panned out. Thanks again, Steve. It is a pleasure listening to a passionate, yet honest and realistic Michigan fan. I mourn along with you.
I see a lot of parallels with Harbaugh and Frost. My Huskers always seem to just not quite get there. There is a lot of talk that seems hollow and uninspired after losses and you feel like he really doesn't have the answers or even know what's wrong, let alone know how to fix it. I am wondering if we hung on Frostba couple more years if he would just end up being a lower version of Harbaugh. Right now Frost can't even beat the teams he is supposed to beat. But even if he does start to beat a few of them, if he can't beat the big name teams here and there, what is the point of keeping him? I feel your pain!
Harbaugh had early onset dementia years ago. This isn't a joke. It's real.
Buckeye fan here since 1973..... please keep him....as a college football fan....why are u guys keeping him around? Peace
Here is a gift.. Harbaugh Day. Its like Groundhog Day, but it only happens when Michigan plays a game that matters...
You're right, Its absolutely like Ground Hog day, LOL!
Like today?
@@ChrisHebert00 Congrats on a great win!
Yeah, I was stunned how well McNamara played in a loss...
The back up lost the game ?
To be fair, MSU sent everyone to stop the run. Didn’t really play much pass defense
To be fair here MSU has the 129th ranked passing defense in the FBS so if he didn’t look great it would’ve been an underachievement.
@@ryantodd7483 he should have thrown for another 100 yards, at least.
@@welchsmcgee6235 Exactly, so naturally we repeatedly tried to run right up the middle on almost every first down. The problem is playcalling. It’s the playcalling. It is the playcalling.
I've been waiting for this episode!
same 🤣
Yes 👍🏾
As an Ohio State fan who grew up in the 90’s and was actually present when Springs slipped in ‘96, it’s like a dream.
I think I speak for all Ohio State fans that lived through the 90’s. Sad Michigan Fan will never get old.
True Word ! Never forget 2-10-1
But we’re loving sad OSU fans today lol!
@@ChrisHebert00 Yeah I'm not an OSU fan but even with this win I wouldn't brag about 2-15 which is where you're at right now. Win 2 out of the next 3 against the Bucks then the story will change.
@@DougieG7130 nah, we’ll brag about being 1-0. We’ll brag about winning the B1G East. Nice try though, keep crying
I was there in '96 too, when Shawn Springs slipped. I was up in C deck with a bird's eye view of the horrors on that day.
Gotta give Michigan their props today though. They got us this time. Our guys came out of that tunnel looking flat and uninspired. Played that way all game long too. At one point during the game I even commented that we don't 'deserve' to win this game. I can't explain why our Buckeyes didn't show up to The Game this year, but Coach Day had better get it fixed, STAT.
Playing "not to lose football", that was the 13 years of the John Cooper era.
And then it changed immensely after letting him go
@@matthuntwork2055 i LOATHED TRESSEL-BALL. Hated Urban's underachieving => year after year with the best talent. Day has squandered 2 almost 3 years now.
so glad we won in spite of urban meyer in 2014 coopers teams were much more fun to watch and they ended a few years ranked higher than any meyer year with jtb or braxton.
tressel only won with a rb he hated and cooper's team in 1998 was better and more fun than any tressel team.
they've all utilized the wrong offensive scheme, play calling and/or qb-1
Re-watched this after Michigan became B1G champs and this video is now very satisfying!
Replays clearly showed Thorne's shin was down before he fumbled into the end zone. The touchdown was rightly overturned. What I don't understand is how the refs didn't call a penalty on the Michigan player trying to choke Kenneth Walker III.
Ball was coming loss before shine was down.
Buckeye fan here for the record. Watch this on the regular. Appreciate your point of view, and enjoy your show. Thanks!
Man it's been 5 days since the game and it's still stinging. I just hope hairball goes and let's the door hits his ass on the way out
As a Spartan fan, other than getting the win, my favorite part about this game was just how good it was. It looked like a real top 10 match up and one of the best games I've seen this season. The whole country was watching too.
Steve is taking his L like a man here. No excuses. Michigan had chances to win this game.
I think Michigan is good. However, I would also want Jim gone if I were a fan.
He is making excuses all over the place with the stupid ref talk and if play X went different, if play Y went different, and if play Z went different. Those are all excuses that are unacceptable.
Not once besides KW3 did he say MSU was the reason. The funny thing is that he is playing right into Tucker's defensive strategy and he doesn't even know it.
Branson Walter well, KW3 was the reason you all won, as he had all your touchdowns and half of your yards, definitely a major part of the comeback. Reed had the one drive he made a few catches too that was very good. Biggest reason Sparty ended up winning was a very bad Michigan turnover with about 7 minutes to go in the 4th right after UM got a good defensive stop and set up with great field position by Henning. I’m sure Tucker wanted his team to go down 16 pts in mid 3rd quarter, great strategy on his part.
@@jhayes1189 KW3 is who scored the points. The offensive line made the holes for him and Thorne and many others got him to that position.
@@bransonwalter5588 He talked about how he thought the refs were bad, but he doesn't imply that it's the reason they lost the game. He's putting the blame exactly were it belongs. On Harbaugh. He even admitted that Mel Tucker already has his program looking better than his.
I mean this is a guy with a Michigan perspective and it's not like he's pretending to be a neutral party. So you're going to get more talk from the Michigan perspective.
As a Buckeye fan, I agree on the entertainment factor. This was a great game to watch, and even better as a fan with no emotional involvement in the outcome. 👍
One thing that I will say, however, is that both of these teams appear highly capable of beating any team in the B1G, including my Buckeyes. It's definitely a cause for concern. I am definitely a little bit worried about this year.
Hey Steve, I'm with you as long as you can guarantee that the next coach will be better. Here's the real problem: This isn't a Harbaugh problem, it's a Michigan problem. This has happened under ever UM HC over the past 50 years. When Bo, Gary, and Lloyd, were beating OSU and MSU, they were losing to Minnesota, Illinois, and Purdue. We've got one national championship since the end of WWII. So, this is not gonna change until Michigan changes the following:
1. Hires a non-Michigan Man to lead the program
2. Modernizes their offensive philosophy
3. Lowers their academic standards
4. Starts recruiting their region better than anyone else in their conference
5. Finally, redefines the term ELITE to match the definition we fans have. Michigan already thinks they're elite, so why change anything (See their Basketball program).
And let's be honest, it's never gonna happen! Michigan doesn't care enough to evolve in order to be elite at football. They're happy being a solid program, with elite student athletes. Just not on the field! Only in the classroom.
Yup.....no more Michigan men. All has to be updated.
This is a pretty good list but I'd move #3 to #1.
Your post is why most of America dislikes Michigan. lower their academic standard? Elite students? Michigan’s standard for football players is no higher than many of the better teams in the country. And many schools have as high of higher standard for students. I got in just on my SAT with no grades submitted. That wouldn’t happen at many top schools.
Wow! That might be one of the dumbest posts ever. The University of Michigan is rated year in and year out one of the most prestigious public universities in America. It's been called the Stanford of the East! It is just a notch below some of America's Ivy League Schools in terms of academic prowess. Next time, do some research before you flap your gums. And btw, it's not arrogance if you can back it up. Michigan is the winningest program in college football history! Its won more Big10 titles than any other Big10 team! They've won 11 National Championships in their history! They've put players in the NFL such as Tom Brady, Charles Woodson, Ty Law, Steve Hutchinson, Dan Dierdorf, and many more Hall of Famers just to name a few! UM dominates the All Big 10 Academic team as well pretty much every year. And, finally, UM has won more games against OSU and MSU historically than they've lost! All of these facts are why regardless of how much the Bucknuts and Sparty would love to be Michigan, they never will be. Even when Michigan loses to OSU and/or MSU, they're still the bigger headline! And they always will be. The rest of America can hate them, but I doubt they even notice. GO BLUE!!!
@@stevenvargo2440 You are why I love delusional Ichigan fans who still count on wins before the Titanic sank to bolster their claims. With the exception of the horrible Cooper era, OSU has pretty much dominated the last 70 or so years in the series, even Earle Bruce had a winning record against Ichigan but still got fired due to mediocrity. The overall you guys cling to is about to come to an end in both championships and head to head.
Steve, you know the 28% that want Harbaugh to be back next season are Buckeye fans. That was a great game last weekend, though.
Guilty
😂🤣😅
Totally...Go Bucks!
I hear a lot of Michigan fans say they need a “Michigan man” to coach UM. Why? Your best coach in school history was from Ohio.
I do not want a Michigan man.'....they go 8-4
I once had a Michigan fan tell me they'd never try to get Fickell because he's a former Buckeye. Some of them somehow have no clue that Bo coached at Ohio St.
@@grumpypoof9648 Luke Fickell is the answer, great coach, not good coach, they win the Big in 1to 2 seasons, but of course Manuel has burnt scrambled eggs for brains and will keep jimmy boy, another top program grabs Fickell and becomes elite, while UofM stays the punchline that it is.
No. Yost was from West Virginia.
@@jasonferguson6753 well I'm a State fan so please don't get him. Lol. He turned us down. Michigan has the resources for a great coach to be very successful. If I were a Michigan fan I'd be done with Harbaugh. I think he's had enough time to where If he was going to win big games he'd have done it by now.
Every game is the same when you watch Jimmy, staring out on the field, mouth agape, Buddy Holly glasses. Always questioning the officials. Why don't you ever see him coaching up a player during the game?. I watched Saturday's game - OSU fan here - and what a game. Both teams played their asses off. Michigan State was at home and got things rolling in the fourth quarter, and that interception at the end was a great play by the MSU defensive back. Give the Spartans credit, despite all of the holding calls that weren't called. Penn State did the same thing against OSU. Watch the tape. OSU was getting held, tackled even, on several plays and no flags. Typical at all levels today.
uh, you do see him coaching players up all the time in gams.
Yea but the buckeyes was at home with the crowd giving them a boost
Please post a video of Coach Tucker "coaching up a player" from Saturday's game. Give me one of Nick Saban. Head coaches will yell at a player, make a passing comment, or console a player, but head coaches don't "coach up" players during games. It's too late then. They also don't go out and fill gaps, catch passes, assign blocking changes, keep players healthy, keep players from fumbling, etc. I'm as frustrated as anyone, but the players themselves have already said that they made too many mistakes, and I think they are right. They played a great game and made too many mistakes against a top 5 team, and other than the too much defensive rotation chaos, I thought the coaches had a good game plan.
@@PM-uq2os well said.
@@PM-uq2os yes. please. support jimmy all day....we here in buckeye nation love jimmy too...
Mad props for posting this week! Your channel is my favorite Michigan fan channel to watch.
Love you man I agree with the man thing
when he screamed "your up 30 to 14" i felt that. all ive said is "we had a 16 point lead!" all weekend after the game
disgusting absolutely disgusting to blow a lead like that
Instead of posing for picture's on the sideline during the game, maybe their coaches can actually coach the player's for the remainder of the game.
Jim Harbaugh is the Adrian Martinez of coaching.
Well steve i see your all wond up. Love it.
I agree jim should go. ( SAD ) but i think i would only let him go if they can get a luke fikcal kinda couch.
Jim Harbaugh is the Jim Harbaugh of coaching
Ouch
Guh huh huh
BIG TEN CHAMP AP COACH OF THE YEAR !!!
Hello Gentlemen, Michigan State fan here.
This was the best installment of this rivalry in my lifetime. I agree that the call at the end of the first half was no where near enough to overturn it. Also, my heart breaks for cade. Dude played the best game of his career, left it all out on the field. Michigan and State both proved that both teams are LEGIT. Have a good week everyone
Class.....our problems go beyond this game. We've been dropping big games for decades. Not one surprise, storm the field, pull goalpost down victory.....not one.
@@johngalt6838 As steve said, there is only one constant. Different players, different assistants, same guy at the head. I hope for your sake that the university decides to make a change.
Single greatest show on the internet. Michigan Podcast !!
You know, I subscribed to this channel to rejoice in the tears of the Arrogant. But even I feel bad for you guys now! (I do like the format and The Bigger Ten videos as well. So, you’re a UA-cam champ in any event!)
Their tears taste so sweet! Lol (56:)
What a flaaaaaaaaaaamer!!!!!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
MSU IS NOW THE PREMIERE PROGRAM IN THE STATE. DO NOT FEEL BAD FOR M.
😂😂😂😂😂 (42:)
Love your passion Steve! I wish our Coach had that same fire!
Steve forgot to add to Harbaugh's impressive wins, the overtime win against FREAKIN RUTGERS!
looking back over the harbaugh era, ......that Rutgers win was HUGE!
@@HorrorKidd88 Haha, Yeah, tough when a Rutgers overtime win is your signature win.
Rutgers is actually a pretty good team... but when you have 1/2 the AP Top 10 on your schedule every year...
@@BuzzLOLOL I would buy that if they won against the West division which isn't the murderers row of the East division of the B1G.
@@vniesky - Well Rutgers beat Temple, Syracuse, Delaware and tied TTUN and Ilinois...
When I saw that there was 652 comments, I knew this was going to be EPIC. And Steve Deace did not disappoint. 100% straight vitriol.
Steve used to be happy when he first started this ... Can't even watch anymore TBH. Hard to be happy when your favorite childhood thing is getting smacked around all Saturday for 15+ yrs straight.
As a MSU fan, this was pure joy. The funniest thing was all of the grainy, non HD highlights of back when Michigan was relevant.
Relevant? Like, back before black folks were allowed to play football or women were allowed to vote?
Michigan has always been relevant, even in their worst seasons. There are books about it....Michigan was always in the top 3 teams used in Online games for EA Sports' NCAA series during their worst years. I can understand the frustration of State...I get it, I really do.
@@andrewcrockett3044 Relevant to who? Michigan fans? Online games now define "relevancy" yikes! MSU fans are not frustrated ... we are having a blast!
Man when I saw the 30-14 score I thought "There's still time for them to blow it," and sure enough...
The Curse of Mike Hart Since the "little brother" comment Michigan is 4-10, no titles compared to 3 titles for the Spartans, only 2 bowl wins. Keep saying it, please.
Plus he was 0-4 against OSU. Came back to win the Natty in 2007 and UM looses to App State first game of the years 🤣
Michigan proceeded to win the next 2 after this game
When Dan Antonio resigned 3 days before signing day, then covid hit I thought it would be a decade for sparty to get to .500....
MSU can find Tucker but Michigan is scared to look because they dont want to be Nebraska.
😂😂😂
so true
@@WapitalismandWreedom exactly
Amazing how much you limit your coaching choices when they have to be a “Michigan Man”
This podcast aged poorly...MSU gets routed by Purdue and OSU, scrapes by PSU....Michigan wins out with grit and determination.
It aged extremely poorly after the 2023 season.
Shouts out to Steve for somehow making this one of if not the most funniest segments in a while. Wow man!😂🤣
CONGRATS ON NEBRASKA'S 1997 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP......NEBRASKA UNANIMOUS 1997 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!
WELL DONE!!!!!!
REPORTER ( TO JIM HARCHOKE) : YOU'RE 0-6 AGAINST OHIO STATE....WHATS YOUR STATEGY THIS YEAR
JIM HARCHOKE: I'M JUST GOING TO TURNAROUND, BEND OVER, SPREAD MY MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS BUTT CHEEKS AND LET RYAN DAY POUND ME FOR 60 MINUTES!!!
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! HARCHOKE and the MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS ARE MY BITCH!!!!!
- KENNETH WALKER III
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! "But, but, but....I beat SOUTHWEST DAKOTA STATE at Fargo COMMUNITY COLLEGE!!!!"
- JIM HARCHOKE justifying to Warde Manuel why he deserves a 10 million dollar raise and 10 year extension
Come on man.
10-2 isn't THAT bad for you guys. In fact it's a big improvement over recent seasons.
Nebraska would LOVE to have one of those 9-3 seasons they fired coach Pelini over.
Go Buckeyes. See you on the 27th unless you can find a reason to skip "The Game"
I liked Bo's 🔥. I was really disappointed when he was fired.
How about 11-1?
I have been watching your stuff for some time. Great commentary. Keep it it up. Go Bucks. Go Big Ten. ...I hate to say it but we need y'all to be good ....Go Blue?
I agree and feel the same way. Time for a new blood. Same thing every year. Good until it matters. Enough.
Bob Stoops
Jim will stay-sorry will be 9-3 or 10-2-One loss will not kill him
@@kleindavis550 Bob Stoops? Nobody but Michigan would hire him. He never played at UM He’s not a Michigan Man…Bob Stoops? How about Bob David?
@@mruthcowboy4991 why does it have to be someone who played at michigan?
@@kleindavis550 That’s the definition of a “Michigan Man”. How bad is the UM basketball program going to have to get? How many losses to Izzo are unacceptable? It doesn’t matter…JWAUN HOWARD IS A “MICHIGAN MAN”. Hoke was the closest, willing guy available. He didn’t play for Bo, but he sat at his feet, at his right hand. So they went with him.
I wonder if Steve is happy to have us Buckeye fans watching his show. Episodes like these really have me grinning ear to ear.
And Spartan fans, we’re enjoying this just as much if not more than you buckeyes are
@@TrevorEmerick We hate each other. But we hate each other less than we hate Michigan.
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! congrats, you won a lot of games before colored tv’s and black people were allowed to play college football. Hang a banner
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! congrats, how many big ten titles since Lloyd left?
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! that help you at all last Saturday?
Most respectable Michigan fan out there. Love the pod.
You just hurt my feelings
I been waiting for a commentator like u 🔥💯🚨
Steve, I agree with you 100%. We both knew what was going to happen when Michigan got to the second half of the season. This scenario plays out every year
and will continue to do so, as long as Harbaugh is coach. If he doesn't get fired at the end of this season, we can only hope he moves back to the NFL.
Did we get humiliated or something you act like we lost by 3 touchdowns
It's like a broken record
@@zakariahajlouni5972 up 16 in the 3rd just choking the game away yea thats humiliating especially when you dominate possession by 10 min
It's unreal it's like we got blown out and laid an egg. I'm more impressed with Michigan now than I was before. I'm sick of Michigan fans that don't have a clue
@@timothyraymond973 more impressed that Harbaugh choked a 30-14 lead in the 3rd qt??? With 1 guy beating them??? With a team loaded with 3* guys FOH you are delusional 20-21 no coach would survive that garbage ass record
This sums it up: Michigan fans are Charlie Brown and Jim Harbaugh is Lucy.
BIG TEN CHAMPIONS & AP COACH OF THE YEAR ‼️
Great video Steve, However, Harbaugh just needs a couple more years then I'm sure he'll figure it out. Go Bucks!!!
Yeah, give Harbaugh another 40 years...
No
Oregon: nick Saban & Alabama football revenge tour; Georgia football bulldog ❤ bite buckeyes Nutt sandwiches 🥪
@@lloydkline1518 - Ohio State is a quantum leap above all other CFB teams...
@@BuzzLOLOL like Oregon & Alabama;; ohio.state football have a short memory Oregon beat Ohio state football in September 2021 ; Alabama beat Ohio state football January 11 2021; should say naked butt spanking;; Georgia look unbeatable except to Alabama/ nick pre/ Saban; college football 2021/ 2022 championship ; Georgia vs Alabama sec championship game 2021
After 7 weeks I can finally rehydrated myself with Wolverine Tears. It has been too long.
😄😄
Are you dehydrated now
The BAD NEWS: That's 10 out of 14 for Sparty. The GOOD NEWS: Bragging about your 2022 recruiting class is just 3 short months away.
Even worse news: MSU is one spot behind you and somehow Indiana has a higher average per recruit than both of us…
Not 10 of the last 14 anymore
Steve, your dead pan honesty is an absolute hoot! I’m still laughing. Great show. Love your work!
That's why Ohio State fans watch, Steve is the best part of Michigan.
@@generallordjowbra8871 😂 there are times when it’s actually a benefit being both a Michigan and a Detroit Lions fan, you are well conditioned to seeing the sense of humor in disappointment!
Every time I watch your podcast the next day at work I'm humming 'Hail to the victors'. And I'm a buckeye fan.
The Refs did not lose this game. Poor play calling and execution lost it. Don’t give JH a pass again when he is clearly responsible. Fifty plus million dead presidents say so. The administration had a chance to move on but they brought Jim “can’t get right” Harbaugh back.
Who would have you hired genius? That Matt Campbell looks like trash right now doesn't he?
@@mgocjg27 LOL...ok I hope he stays forever...Go Bucks!!
Mel Tucker would have been a good hire...
HILARIOUS 😆. You Michigan Fans finally win something meaningful. You convinced me that OK ✅ is good enough…. You all deserve Jimmy
“Can’t get Right” Harbaugh. You all deserve paying Jimmy to stare up at that game clock with that STUPID expression on his face like he can’t figure out where he is. You all deserve giving him a lifetime contract. You all deserve watching Mel Tucker opening up a restaurant in E. Lansing called Urban/Tucker Pint House w 7-0 Room 2.0. You all deserve watching Jimmy agree to answer your questions but not your insults. You all deserve to watch this Snake Oil Salesman glean 50+ million more out of your public university to win 65-70% of his games.
Congratulations YOU FINALLY WIN. Hope you get what you deserve. 😂
FYI/ yes I would take 41 yr old Campbell w a huge upside over Jimmy, but why am I trying to convince the last apologist for Jimmy…. U 🤡 Lol.
@@Zebnew 2-5 his first season, too early to tell. He's off to a good start this year with a few lucky breaks in some big games and some unexpected gems from the transfer portal. Remember JH had Michigan at 10-0 his 2nd year...we'll see if Mel keeps it up.
One of the best shows out there!
SAME OLD MICHICUM....CHOKE AFTER CHOKE AFTER CHOKE AFTER CHOKE AFTER CHOKE AFTER CHOKE.....
LMF-9NATTYS-AO!!!!!!!!!!!!
1970 AP - Nebraska GIGGLES!!!
1970 UPI - Texas GIGGLES!!!
1970 Lost their bowl game and finished FIFTH (!!!) in the rankings - Chokehio Büttguys
No problem...Ole Granny Hayes declared FIFTH PLACE NATTY TIME!!!
LMFAO!!!!! THEY FINISHED *FIFTH* AND STILL TRY TO CLAIM A NATTY!!!!!
GIGGLES!!!!!!!!!!
You know, I am an Ohio St fan, but I respect your knowledge and insights. You are right on and have an excellent show! You have to get rid of Harbaugh and get a coach that knows how to win big games, because it affects the whole Big 10 negatively when Michigan doesn’t win these big games and is a laughing stock nationwide!!
Another Ohio state fan here, and I echo the above. Steve is right on with knowledge, insights and is really entertaining. I feel your pain, remembering 1988-2000, when the Buckeyes couldn't BUY a win against Michigan, even with the much better team. So much of this game is played between the ears (attitude), and it all comes from the coach.
Steve, I’m a genuinely concerned Buckeye. Bro. I don’t feel bad, but I feel bad if that makes sense. But as usual, great podcast, with good insight into our hated rival, and what a sensible Michigan fan feels.
As a Michigan fan I get it. I hate OSU, but at some point you have to respect what they have done and continue to do. It's sad, that this is the greatest rivalry in college, sorry, was the greatest rivalry. It's sad, watching a team I love, go from big ten titles to I pray OSU doesn't drop 80 and embarss us again. It's so bad, I would take a win against them ever 4 years. Or just be competitive. I honestly mean this, I'm okay losing every year to OSU if it's under 7 than what I've went through as a fan for the last 30 years
One of your best analysis ever Steve. Love your show. All points were true 3 years ago too.
You are the man !! I have been a fan for 30 years - you get it - I am so sick of being avg.
Lol Michigan is still well above the average. Any metric you use they are above average. You just can't quite dance with the elites which pisses you off so greatly because you are one of the oldest and most blue blooded of all.
We get it bud just try to keep some perspective. There are still 100+ division 1 FBS programs that would trade you positions.
@@adamappell1212 You are so right! If you looked at Michigan's record in the 80's and 90's, it was the same thing. Except for '97. Other than that, how many times was Michigan 11-1? Not many
You are such a fan of Bo. You have him in your opening sequence. I admired him as well but, please tell us, did Bo win a National Championship? How many wins on average per year did Bo have?????
This is the one ….. all facts …Bo was not a winner …. This is in Michigan DNA
Steve! I was waiting for you!
OSU fan here. Really appreciate your passion, common sense, and political content as well.
As crazy as this sounds, this is the best this team has looked since 2016. And even crazier, I’m not all that upset at this game. I didn’t think this team could look as good as they did, and they surpassed my expectations for this game. I’m hard on Harbaugh, always will be. But if this team plays as well as they did last week against OSU, we have a shot. If he looses that, then he’s a goner because what this game showed me is that we 100% have the talent to play with anyone.
I gotta agree with you. Michigan looked really good, especially the QB and wrs. It was a shame someone had to lose, MSU just made 1 or 2 more plays. Plus the have a star RB
Ohio state wins by 20+.
"Look this good"?? Trading field goals for touchdowns will be an "L" against good teams who can drive the ball on your defense. They have no chance against the Buckeyes unless they improve in the Red Zone!
@@timhughes3973 I said what I said. That game was the best even with everything that went “wrong” if they correct mistakes they can 100% beat OSU. Seeing them rise to that level or play makes me say it’s OSU or out.
Truth spoken clearly and sober. Great Chanel enjoy hearing the truth- keep it up 👍
Steve is delusional if he thinks Warde Manuel is going to fire a 10-2 Jim Harbaugh. He starts saying these things with every loss. Harbaugh haters, I am sorry you will be disappointed.
20-21
You will find out in a few years that MSU will be a much more dominant school for football and you will wish that you fired him years ago let alone now.
@@bransonwalter5588 the transfer portal doesn't always work my friend. Unless Mel tucker can get his guys in there he will be a flash in the pan. I really hope he does good because it's good for the conference(and he was a cool guy when he coached at osu) but its tough to recruit the proper talent for your schemes.
MSU fans better pray Mel ain't coaching in Baton Rouge next year.
@@HuddshouseofRockNMetal As an LSU fan, I’d say there’s a small chance Tucker is our next coach. I certainly wouldn’t bet on it. I think the Mel Tucker to LSU smoke is combination of LSU sending feelers out, Tucker’s agent trying to leverage MSU for a raise, and Michigan media desperately wishing Tucker will leave. I don’t think he’s even a Top 5 candidate in our AD’s wishlist. If we hire Tucker, it’s because a bunch of guys higher on the list told us no. Probably including Dave Aranda and Billy Napier.
And that’s not a slight on Mel Tucker. I’m very impressed with how quickly he’s turned around Michigan State, and I certainly wouldn’t be upset if LSU ends up hiring him. He’d probably compete for national championships here.
But I don’t think people outside of Baton Rouge understand how much of a dumpster fire LSU football is right now. Coach O has completely cratered the program since the Clemson game. We didn’t have enough healthy scholarship players to practice last week. The locker room and team culture is completely broken. The morale of the fanbase is the lowest it’s been since 1999. The next coach will have to do almost a complete rebuild, both of culture and talent.
This next hire is the most important hire LSU has made since Saban. With Texas and OU joining the SEC and Saban retiring at some point in the next 5-10 years, the next coach will either embed us in mediocrity or rebuild a powerhouse program capable of being a dynasty. Our AD has to get the hire correct, and I don’t think he’ll take a chance on a guy like Tucker with a small sample size as head coach. He’ll shoot for a big fish, like he has with all his hires, and settle for a safe option if he can’t land one.
Let's face it... Michigan is not an elite team anymore ...and hasn't been for 20 years... They got the best looking helmets...and fight song... but that's about it... I have given up thinking they will be anything but just an above average team from now on....
STEVE, THE MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS CHOKED AGAIN!!!!!
AND STILL NO NATTYS IN 80 YEARS.....OMFG!!!!!!!
HAIL TO THE EPIC CHOKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS....1/2 SHARED NATTY WITH NOTRE DAME AP POLL EVER IN 1948
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GIVE HARCHOKE A LIFETIME CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMF-9NATTYS-AO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! WHOOPSIES!!!!!
WOODY 5 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!
BLOW "KNEW" SHAMEBECHLER...aka WOODY'S waterboy.....
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@@lloydkline1518 3987 days.....and counting!!!!
Don't hate 11 straight!!!! Giggles!!!!!
1/2 SHARED NATTY WITH NOTRE DAME IN 1938!!!!!!!
HARCHOKE OWEN FOREVER!!!!!!!
ANOTHER EPIC MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS CHOKE!!!!!!!!!!!
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMF-9NATTYS-AO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is so funny to look back on
Michigan State has won the Big 10, made a College Football Playoff, fallen from grace, became mediocre, fired their head coach, hired a NEW coach, built a better program than Michigan, and returned to Big 10 title contender ALL IN THE TIME JIM HARBAUGH HAS BEEN COACH.
Pure Michigan
Thats true
Well when you put it that way… 😬
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! If Canada and the USA had the same amount of gold silver and bronze medals going back to the 2000 Olympics. People aren't going to be talking about the USA, they are going to be talking about how Canada is kicking a power house countries ass in today's day and age.
Mark Dantonio was not fired. He picked his successor and is still around the program watching his recruits succeed. Get your facts straight.
The AD for Michigan sits next to satan and satan says, I think they have had enough torture with Harbaugh ? AD states, please give me one more season with him !
Run defense and taking 3s instead of 6s cost us the game. Our defense couldnt get off of the gd field. Looked like Don Browns defense out there.
Here we go I’ve been waiting for this
Steve you and I and everyone else know he is not getting fired this year for losing 3 games no matter what sort of political pressure the fans or media put on the program. We are all going to have to wait one more excruciating season before it ends lest he resigns after the season.
For a few years I really wanted Harbaugh at Michigan thinking it wasnt going to happen. Then it does...and I have to say that his biggest problem is the admiration for Bo Schembechlers system. Harbaugh just has too much Schembechler in him. It didn't work for Schembechler in bowl games and it isn't working our Harbaugh now
As the Spartans used to be able to say: thank God it's almost basketball season
Don't forget Hockey.
Used to be able to? Just watch Sparty this year too. Michigan and Michigan State will be great
REPORTER ( TO JIM HARCHOKE) : YOU'RE 0-6 AGAINST OHIO STATE....WHATS YOUR STATEGY THIS YEAR
JIM HARCHOKE: I'M JUST GOING TO TURNAROUND, BEND OVER, SPREAD MY MICHICUM WOLVERQUEENS BUTT CHEEKS AND LET RYAN DAY POUND ME FOR 60 MINUTES!!!
1970 AP - Nebraska GIGGLES!!!
1970 UPI - Texas GIGGLES!!!
1970 Lost their bowl game and finished FIFTH (!!!) in the rankings - Chokehio Büttguys
No problem...Ole Granny Hayes declared FIFTH PLACE NATTY TIME!!!
LMFAO!!!!! THEY FINISHED *FIFTH* AND STILL TRY TO CLAIM A NATTY!!!!!
GIGGLES!!!!!!!!!
Juwan Howard _ / basketball Michigan ream ❤ winter revenge tour Ohio state basketball; Michigan state basketball 2023
I hope this is the last "Michigan" man in charge for a bit. It's time for Michigan to move into the 21st century and shed the emotional ties to a time that is long gone. A full generation of irrelevance is enough.
Damn I love this show. Look forward to every Tuesday.
One quick point. Big Ten officiating is just horrible. Every game its blown call after blown call. Something has to change.
They are in competition with SEC officials, BUT they are winning the race to the bottom!
oh, we can't possibly hold the refs accountable to do their jobs if we make a single mistake in the game, so says every sparty out there in defending so many "wins" they got in part from a controversial call going their way.
As an OSU fan...I tune into this podcast after every OSU and MSU loss for Michigan...I save these videos of agony to watch all year long! Priceless!
that’s weird man
Steve I agree with everything you said enough is enough my paraphrase. I'm so sick of it being this way GO BLUE though but I hear you!!!
If Michigan had won on Saturday, could very well have happened, and they were 11-0 going against OSU and lost by 13... you probably would say the same, right?
Michigan #90.He did something 👀. He should not be able to play for the rest of the year. Unsportsmanlike. God said do unto others as you will have them do unto you 🙏. Amen
I’m a Michigan fan, and Harbaugh literally makes me hate Michigan football. I had no expectations for them this year. And of course they have to go 7-0. They just had to pull us in to kick us in the nuts with the biggest game on the line with our instate rival. Smdh
I agree. And what’s so painful is that we had the talent and execution to win. Not perfect, but good enough to win. Instead, our playcalling was downright sabotage.
We were the better team and had the better players. Also had the the bigger budget and higher paid coaching. Still got outclassed when it mattered. So sad.
@@TylerRayHamblin We get outcoached every week. Our talent on the field often overcomes it, but I often wonder if there is a mole on our coaching staff. What other coaching staff in the country would decide to just run out the clock when up by 16 in the middle of the 3rd quarter?
Mark - excellent job, as always.
I notice you NEVER interrupt anyone... unlike some people I know.
This didn’t age well…
High quality content and very objective words about why the team lost. Respect. --Your friend from East Lansing.
I’m sorry, but exactly who would be a sufficient replacement for Jim? I think the new staff deserves the opportunity to see it through. You don’t fire him because of a 4 point loss on the road to a Top 10 team where you were jobbed by the refs
Shoot give me Charles Woodson
@@ZxTRUxZ how does Charles Woodson automatically make a coach 😂😂
Harbaugh changes coaches every year! Should they ALL get time to see it through?! He's had 7 years!
Good job Steve. I am a Buckeyes fan in Washington, DC, and I love all of your work. Keep up the great work.
Would you watch Steve if they were good and beat OSU? I don’t think I would. I enjoy a Michigan fan like Steve talking about how good OSU is and how bad Michigan is in comparison. Is sick really.
i’m an ohio state fan and i even thought michigan got screwed with that td they took back.
Sure they did lol
Still blew a 16 pt lead.
You only get screwed when you give up two TDs and two 2pters in succession😬 Decent team pulls away. Michigan just sucks.
He was down how do you get screwed behind the right call? 😂😂 man I don’t get you folks
@@HuddshouseofRockNMetal they sure did. i’m a osu fan anyway , my only point is the officiating in the big10 is a very un-funny joke right now.
Steve you literally have the same things to say that I do. I have been a michigan fan my whole life. It’s so sad watching the same crap every year we have not beat ohio state in what seems like forever and cannot win big games. Thank you for doing the show every week and saying the truth! Go Blue
Steve’s depressing.
We fixed that a few weeks after this game and went on a run.
2021-2023 Span
Overall record: 40-3
Rivals record (Michigan State and Ohio State): 5-1
Top Ten Record: 7-3
3 Peat wins over Ohio State
3 Peat Big 10 titles
3 Straight CFP appearances
A CFP Rose Bowl Champs
A National Title
I think if he doesn't win out he'll be out of there especially with Mel Tucker applying pressure
Doubt it. At Michigan we have very high expectations at all times, but when it comes to football we are very happy with mediocrity.
Appears that Mel Tucker’s overall collegiate coaching record reasserted itself this week. Ya know, 15-13….😏
I keep seeing this graphic "3-9 vs Michigan State & Ohio State." No, he's 3-4 against Michigan State & 0-5 against Ohio State, not to mention he missed out on an OSU beat down last year. Let's keep it real.
I will make this short and sweet, I'm sooooooo TIRED of being on the losing side of a close , big , meaningful game!!! What good is beating northern Michigan, and Rutgers, if we are always going to lose too Michigan, Penn state, and Ohio state??? Is it too MUCH to ask for Michigan to win the BIG ten? Or at least get to the game in Indianapolis?? I don't want to hear about how Ohio st is so TALENTED and in a league of their own!! In the time that harbaugh has been here ( 6 years). Both Michigan state and Penn state have a big ten title!!! Why can Michigan state win the BIG ten and not us?? Penn state won the big ten in 2016!!! Why can't we????? I hate to even say this but, harbaugh is the worst big game coach I have ever seen... Did you ever look at what his record is against top 10 teams on the road? Do you know what his record is against top 25 teams as an underdog?? Look it...it's unbelievable.... When are we going to adress this? Harbaugh has been like this since San Francisco, he comes out of the gate like gangbusters, scores fast, gets a lead and then gets ultra conservative and ends up letting the other team back in the game, and ultimately.....loses the game!!
Concur. Time to cowboy up, Blue. There is only one big game that really matters each year.
When did we play Division II Northern Michigan?
You get the jist!! Western Michigan, northern Michigan,whatever, the point is he beats the bad teams, and loses to any team that is equal or better than Michigan!!!
You're worried about getting the names of these teams correctly, you should be worried about the fact that this coach is 0-6 against Ohio state... Worry about those facts
@Joe M I hear what you're say bro,. But at some point,. AFTER 7 years,. And a 4- 16 record against top 20: teams,. You have to look at the coach... He is constantly on the losing end of a close, big ,. Meaningful game!?? Come on now. Michigan state won the big ten in the last 7 years,. Penn state won in 2016,. Why can't we.
As a nebraska fan do not fire a 9 to 10 win coach.
Hey Steve. At least we have juwan Howard at Michigan. He can win the big games!
Michigan football just chokes. It's very frustrating. They'll never win the big one with khakis Jesus
Eh, TBD on Juwan. He should've swept MSU. They choked against UCLA.
@@bw5043 wouldn't call it a choke, B1G champs, Elite 8 in his first Tournament appearance, #1 recruiting class of 2021. What are you watching my friend?
@@-sdot83 exactly. And were without Livers. Michigan was exceptional last year
Man that Juwan hide turned out to be bad glad football had a great three year run as basketball was falling off. Hope Dusty works out.
Steve, Michigan is clobbering Indiana as I type this. Michigan will be 8-1 after today. How is that bad? Ohio State is beatable this year.
OSU has been beatable every year even the 2001 year OSU pulled wins out of a hat.
It was a first down in 2016 and it’s still a first down now. I love your channel but get over it Steve. There was a view from a camera directly above them that showed the ball was across. I agree the officials were bad in the game but as you said Hairball should not blow double digit leads to a school they call “little brother”
No there wasn't a direct over head. The best possible shot doesn't show the first down or anything and you can't see the ball so you have to infer where it is. The biggest issue with it is it was such a close and big call, and they didn't even bring the chains out. Just called it a first down.
Steve, I'm a Buckeye fan....and I can relate (John Cooper Era). I do feel for you. I can't believe that I'm saying that. Stay strong and good luck.
Cooper is nothing next to our 20 year run.
If I put aside emotions and look at this objectively that was a great game Saturday and the playoff rankings reflect that. But UM once again found a way to lose a close, big game. Steve said it perfectly: In college football you don’t sit on a 30-14 lead with 5 minutes left in the third quarter. This routinely happens under Harbaugh to go to this 1980’s conservative style play calling.
However, as much as it was a good game, these teams will lose to OSU this month. Both just don’t have the talent and killer instinct OSU has and has had for about two decades now. Culture does not matter as much in the nfl, but in college it means everything
If this was only a tough loss. Its too late. Punt game, 4 pick rain game, dropped Bell pass at PSU, Barrett was short game. Its a trend. He has to go.
And letting the Michigan players pose for sideline group selfies when they went up 30-14 did not age well, did it? No way that happens on Tuck's (or Dantonio's) side.
@@johngalt6838 I agree! Maybe there was some hope the culture had made a drastic change, but losing a game like that just continues a pattern that has happened for 7 years now
@@timhughes3973 nah that part doesn’t really bug me as much. A lot of teams do stuff like this on defense after a turnover. To me that’s just kids having fun. Let them have fun I’m ok with that no matter what team it is
@@timhughes3973 Yeah the group photo thing I could do without ! Just seems cheesy to me. And then to get smacked down afterwards really makes it look stupid !
Steve, always love your podcast. Look forward to it every week. Please take your meds and take care of yourself.
I have been waiting for this video since Saturday!
How big was the call back of the fumble? Not just the 4pts, but actually it would likely affect MSU going for 2 after their TDs.
If Michigan goes into half up 27-14 and everything is the same with possessions in the second half. Michigan would go up 34-14, MSU likely does not go for 2 on their next two touchdowns, because they are down 20, not 16. Then it would be 34-28 roughly when Michigan would kick a field goal to go up 37-28, forcing MSU to now try an onside after their next TD.
Steve , you forgot about Day in his first year as Ohio State's new coach handing Wishagain one of its worst ass kickings ever .
Which has been the one and only win he’s got vs THAT TEAM.
The only thing that’s sucks about this is you won’t be this mad when OSU beats the breaks of Meatchicken and Henderson runs for 400 years
That is a long time to run. Does he get a break at halftime?
@Fifty-two to twenty-four SMACKDOWN!!! 👍 haha never heard that before your about as original as Harbaugh