Trains in LA that are NOT on the map…
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- When you think of trains in Los Angeles, you probably think of the LA Metro. Or maybe Metrolink, the commuter rail system comes to mind. But have you heard of these trains? These little funiculars, trolleys, and trams also take passengers for short rides around the LA area. Definitely give them a try next time you're there.
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Chapters
0:00 The New Regional Connector Opens
1:10 Angel's Flight
2:40 The Grove Trolley
3:50 The Getty Tram - Авто та транспорт
I realize the sunshine state is the official name of Florida, not California. But in my comment about the weather, I decided to quote Dr. Dre. Blame him.
If any Floridians give u grief, tell Florida Man, Florida is technically NOT the sunshine state in that 9 other states get more annual sunshine than Florida. lol Arizona #1 (technically should be the sunshine state) and California is 5th. 😁
California should be called the socialism that only takes the bad parts state
The Getty Tram is called an Otis Hovair. It was originally developed at General Motors as an automated guideway transit system, but GM was forced to divest the design as part of an anti-trust ruling. The design eventually ended up at Otis Elevator who replaced its linear motor with a cable pull and sold it to different places around the world. So it's not just at the Getty Center, but also has or currently operates at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International, Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport, Serfaus Austria, Minneapolis-St Paul International, Harbour Island Tampa, Cairo International, Sun City South Africa, Narita Terminal 2, Duke University Medical Center, Huntsville Hospital, and Zurich Airport.
The Narita airport system closed sadly. But the Serfaus system is very high on my bucket list!
What are hovair's advantages?.. I feel that all airport shuttle trams should be like the above-ground Concourse Tram at Minneapolis St Paul Int'l
With all the times it closed and reopened, Angels Flight is truly the "Tis but a scratch" of funiculars 😂. As others mentioned, two other types of trains in the LA area are the Disneyland Railroad and Disneyland Monorail. The Disneyland Railroad was inspired by Walt's backyard railroad called the Carolwood Pacific. When he was a kid, Walt wanted to be a train engineer, and got a newsie job selling newspapers and candy on trains. The Disneyland Monorail opened on June 14, 1959, as the first monorail system in the Western Hemisphere, and currently operates with a Mark VII fleet that debuted in 2008. When it opened, it connected Tomorrowland to the Disneyland Hotel, but now it connects to the Downtown Disney shopping complex.
The monorail actually opened with a little accident where then Vice President Nixon was abducted onto the monorail by Walt without Nixon's security! The monorail was designed by famed Imagineer Bob Gurr (who designed most of Disneyland's ride vehicles like Haunted Mansion and Autopia). Up until opening day, the monorail would not cooperate with them. Gurr and a German engineer worked tirelessly each night on sketching replacement parts and rushing them to Burbank so they could be built. The day before on June 13, the monorail ran as intended for the first time, but they were still worried for opening day. Gurr was in the pilot's seat, with Nixon's family and Walt on board, but the secret service agents didn't get on board as Gurr left the moment Walt told him to. He was worried, with Walt staring at him, that the monorail would break down and he accidentally kidnapped Nixon. Thankfully, it ran as intended.
Wow, a scandal where Nixon was the victim and not the perpetrator!
And yes, Angel’s Flight’s safety record is, ehhhh, an interesting subject. Glad somebody realized it works better when the two cars are attached to one cable, instead of two separate ones.
Disney also has streetcars at both Disneyland and California Adventure. The one at DCA is intended to evoke the old Pacific Electric Red Car system.
Lovely video! It’s always surprised me that there’s no mention of Angel’s Flight on the Metro map considering it is subsidized by Metro and accepts the TAP card.
Also, if you find yourself in LA again and want a behind-the-scenes tour of Union Station or the Amtrak facilities, please feel free to ask. I am in Amtrak management here and work at Union Station.
Thank you for the offer! I will remember this and definitely ask :)
last time I used angels flight I tried to pay with a tap card and they said no so if that’s actually possible please tell me, it would make it much more helpful
@@theexcaliburone5933 I tend to buy the souvenir ticket because I love how cool it looks
The Getty Centre train is Gadgetbahn to the extreme. Build something to prove a technology works that sadly never really ever gets beyond demonstration or gimmick stage.
@@nixcails imho, if there was ever an appropriate use for a non-standard/gadgetbahn-type system, that is it.
Perhaps if you come after 2024. LA is getting built the Airport People Mover (APM). Connecting all LAX terminals to the K LINE Lightrail.
Do you know when the Inglewood people mover will open?
Perhaps sometime thereafter. Closer to 2026. To accommodate the World Cup stadiums in Inglewood to the rest of the lightrail system.
@@Thom-TRA It keeps getting delayed. There has been a long list of problems during the construction of the LAX People Mover, as well as the MetroRail Crenshaw (K) Line that it will connect with.
My favorite trains that aren’t on the map are the Travel Town Railroad trains that circle the transportation museum in Griffith Park.
PS - Los Angeles Live Steamers Railroad Museum and trains rides are located on an adjacent plot of land.
I’ll have to check those out next time!
I was going to say you missed the Waterfront Red Car in San Pedro, but looks like service ended in September 2015 with portions of the route having been demolished since. Sad. It was such a great addition to a little known corner of LA.
At the end of the video I got confused for a second.
I thought why does the Getty have Station Announcement in German?
But it was the announcement for the next station on the train I'm on. I heard it though the headphones.
Lol that’s funny
There’s also the Disneyland monorail and trolleys they have running on the tracks at Disneyland and California adventure too! LOL
Guess I’ll have to go to Disney…
In terms of fixed‐guideway systems, southern California also has the Palm Springs Aerial Tramway, the mine train in Calico, the Orange Empire Railway Museum with multiple heritage trains and trolleys, and, most notably, Disneyland, which features the Disneyland Railroad, the Horse-Drawn Streetcars, the Pacific Electric Red Cars, and the Disneyland Monorail Service.
Those kids books from the Getty looked so cool that I got a couple to read to my little. They just came in the mail today. Thanks for the cool video!
This comment made my day! I hope your kiddos enjoy the books. Let me know!
Knott's Berry Farm has some of the most interesting historic genuine narrow gauge trains. Unlike the Disneyland trains, the one's at Knott's Berry are actual relics, not reconstructions, showing the ability of trains to run forever.
very cool! although not a "train", the Roosevelt Island Tram in NYC is one of those awesome transit gems that comes to mind.
DC area secret trains that are operational:
1. 2 senate lines and 1 house subway line
2. Dulles Aerotrain
3. Miniature ride on railways in Wheaton Regional Park, Cabin John, Fairfax Station, etc…
Non-operational:
1. Anacostia Streetcar
Miniature rides? Sounds like a fun summer outing!
As a viewer from San Diego who has visited Los Angeles (but hasn't yet taken these trains), I found this quite informative! I knew of Angel's Flight and the Getty Center Tram, but I didn't know Los Angeles also had battery-powered open-air streetcars! I think I might visit at least one of these someday.
Thanks for the video!
Wow what a great video! I am a native Lis Angeleno and this is the firstbtime anyone has covered these little gems on rail in a single video. I was just at the Getty Center 2 weekends ago, and i thought the tram rode on quiet rubber tires...I learned something new thanks to your always informative videos.
Appreciate it!
And yes, the air cushion makes for a smoother ride than tires could.
My ex was an engineer and we loved watching them build that tram. It is a marvel!
Nice views of the Sepulveda Pass. The Getty has one of the best photography collections of all time. I do miss the old Getty though!
Haha I was going to make this exact video 😂 Fun ride!
First reply
Oops haha
Do it and compete for the most views 😊😊
@@adamaviation6236 nah, in my experience transit UA-camrs celebrate each other’s successes and make videos inspired by each other rather than competing
@@Thom-TRA was only kidding mb
This makes me want to go to the Getty just so I can get the experience of riding the train! 😊
Make sure if you get a chance to go to LA to reserve a spot at the Getty well in advance! They’re free but they fill up.
The Southern California Electric Railway Museum in Perris is a must for you if you want to experience LA transportation of the past. Amazing collection and actual trolley rides. Both Red and Yellow cars.
Thanks for the great tip!
A hover train in LA of all places. Actually that gadgetbahn kind of thing is common on the west coast now that I think of it.
Yeah there’s a lot of them. Makes for fun videos.
This is such a cool video idea. The Getty tram is one of my favorite parts of LA, the ride is very cool. I think it's even better than the museum itself 😜
I remember going to The Getty a lot as a kid and the highlight of any visit was riding the funicular up/down the hill. Even if you are not into art, or the cool funicular thing, the place has some awesome views of LA on a good day so it's worth it just for that. Recently when I was in LA with friends we took the light rail from 7th Street Metro Center to Grand Ave Arts/Bunker Hill, behind The Broad, and walked the few blocks to Angels Flight, and rode it down to Pershing Square just for fun. Is it the most efficient, no. Was it super fun, YES!
As for Angels Flight, if you have "stored value" on your TAP card, you can pay with that. They prefer that on busy days as you get lots of tourists fumbling with cash, credit cards, etc. Although the "souvenir tickets" are really cool, not going to lie.
Hey, congratulations on 20,000! viewers! Here's to 30,000 more!
Thank you for sharing.
Nice video with all kinds of interesting trains! The first one shown works just like the Lookout Mountain Incline Railway in Chattanooga even thought that one is much longer and has modern rail cars. And it’s also not all open air, as well as the seats not facing sideways. I’ve went on it once and I liked it, so I’ll look into doing it again maybe very soon. And I like how there’s a trolley at a shopping center, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of that.
What delightful options and sorry you two were there in such cruddy weather. Hope you can return and try out that trolley!!!
I enjoyed that video👍👍
Nearly twenty years ago(showing my age😅😅😅) I visited the Getty Center and rode the tram up to the museum. I didn't know it levitate on air. That's something new l learned from your video, Thom!! In 2005 when I went in LA the Angel's Flight was closed but I did go to Farmer Market with my Uncle and saw the trolley standing on the tracks. I had a good time back then. I hope to go back soon!!
Glad you could learn something new!
Some cities around the world have their funiculars shown on their public transport maps but most are short trips thus hard to show to scale.
Great video as usual, thanks for sharing these secret rails :]
Well secret trains ig ha
I’d consider the Delmar Loop trolley St. Louis’ “secret” train!
Been on both over the years. Getty is free, unusual for CA
Both? Because there are more than 2 trains mentioned in the video…
There are several museums in the LA area that are free, the Ca Sci Center, ,Ca African American museum,LACMA,, Latin American museum of Art, Watts Towers just to name a few
Great Video, Love Your Channel. Sorry About The Rain😢 But We Needed It. Greetings From San Diego🌴
(If you like the Getty Tram, you'll love the people mover in Morgantown, WV.)
Hoping to go there soon
@@Thom-TRA You are in a good place for trains where you are now. You got to get to CASS RR.
Great revelations, Thom. I'd heard about Angel's Flight before but the Grove Trolley and the Getty Tram are new ones for me. The Getty Tram body looks like an imitation of a San Francisco BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) Train. Now it is winter downunder and too cold to go out for this senior citizen, I must go back and view more of your UA-cam library. Amazing to see you've been at it for 8 years now (just scrolled back and checked out your first clip in Luxembourg). Lots for me to catch up on. Hope you and Lindsay are settling in well in DC. Cheers from Michael down in shivering Melbourne.🙂
Hope you make it through the winter! I’ll try to keep your hearts warm
This was such a cool topic. Do this for more cities!
Thanks! You should check out my DC Capitol Subway video! Kind of similar
Thanks. Booked LA in August. Hope I have time.
Enjoy your trip!
I Loved it.
The first one is actually on Apple Maps if you switch to the transit layer. Apple Maps is great in transit. They already have Honolulu Skytrain mapped out even though it hasn't opened yet.
Fun fact: all these places are on Apple Maps. Because I’m not talking about just any map. I’m talking about the official transit maps.
Angel's Flight absolutely is on the map.
Show me where it is on the transit map.
@@Thom-TRA I’m not your Google. You can open that PDF for yourself
@@chicagocarless why are you being rude? I’m trying to help you understand the premise of the video.
If u ever do old trains or trolleys there's Travel Town in Griffith Park and San Pedro Red Cars, the last of The Pacific Electric Red Car Trolley Line. 😉
Travel Town is on my list for next time. Sadly it looks like the Red Cars closed a few years ago…
@@Thom-TRA Oh I didn't know about the Red Cars. I thought they were a permanent tourist thing. I always say every year I will visit but always put it off... until it's too late. :( Thanks for the info and will look forward to Travel Town. 😉
@@Thom-TRA Congrats to you and your wife on moving to a new home btw!!
@@FEARNoMore thank you!
New Jersey Riverline. Runs on a base of the Camden and Amboy line later Pennsylvania RR
Strangely enough, the Angels Flight is on the Apple Maps transit map.
So is every convenience store, school, street, museum, and restaurant. Clearly not the map I’m talking about.
The Americana in Glendale also has a train. Basically the same as the Grove. Same owners I believe.
Yep, which is why I mention the Americana in Glendale in the video
As a local resident of this area, I can confirm that this is all factually correct. 👍🏻 Nice video BTW.
Appreciate it!
@@Thom-TRA Thank you! I honestly hope we can collaborate at some point in the future.
@@RailfanParadise would love to. Don’t have any SoCal plans atm but will let you know if I do
@@Thom-TRA Ok! I will be sure to brainstorm ideas in the meantime.
Angel’s Flight is officially labeled as transit on Apple Maps. It has been for years.
Good thing I’m not talking about Apple Maps
You can always try sneaking in to the old red car subway. I hear its still there.
The GTA has a branch line which serves uxbridge via the York durham Railway
Nice video, slight correction on California's state nickname, Florida's nickname is the Sunshine State, California is the Golsen state, in part due to the history of the Gold Rush
Maybe you should read the other comments. Like the one pinned at the top?
@@Thom-TRAI did miss the pinned comment, sorry. Will you do an update on your video on the Crenshaw -LAX ( K) line once the portion connecting to APM opens this yr.
Really cool and unique trains. This is why I like this channel. I round never have known about these trains if not for this video and been to LA a few times
I really appreciate this comment, thank you!
I subscribed after the Senate subway trains as a new Irish subscriber in the U.K. 21 years with extended family in Rural Ireland near Dublin - aside from HS2 here in the U.K. I’d love to see the “Channel Tunnel” style high-speed rail tunnel under the Irish Sea from Holyhead to Dublin involving the Welsh/UK and Irish governments, as previously closed lines in the Beeching Cuts of the 1960’s in the U.K. and similar that went on in Ireland are now being rebuilt by the Irish government - there is even a line opened in the West of Ireland and climate change issues appear to be driving much of this shift away from air travel
I've read there's a fixed guide way system in Belfast, maybe a mall. True or no?
5:54 OLIVE THE REINDEER ARTIST SPOTTED
The getty looks a lot like a mini BART 😂
I think it’s the side window that creates that effect, I thought the same thing!
@@Thom-TRA It looks like they used a big pop-up sunroof panel mounted vertically and upright to do that.
Same developer David Caruso developed the Grove and Americana
Is there gonna be more LA transit videos?
Yes. There have been as well.
So what provides the cushion of air on that weird hovertram thing? It must have fans, presumably electric, to do that. So what provides the power for that? The whole thing does sound like beung clever for the sake of it
The Disneyland monorail didn't make the cut 😔
That’s because Disneyland is in Orange County, not Los Angeles County.
DMCA them for excluding these trains!!!
The Trains at the Getty Center are two separated systems they can only one or both Trains. The Getty Center system is not the only one in the world the Serfaus U-Bahn uses the exact same system just with one Train.
Actually, Apple Maps lists Angels Flight as a rapid transit route
Apple Maps also lists the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railway as a transit route. Your point?
Second!
Do Disneyland's various rail systems count?
I'd count them, but Disneyland is in Orange County!
You missed the San Pedro Waterfront Red Car!
Edit: It looks like the line closed in 2015, but some hopeful to reopen soon with no real plan yet
Sadly that one is closed
@@mrxman581 Well that sucks
Disneyland and Knotts Berry Farm both have trains and Universal has a free tram from the Subway Station up to the gate
I’ll have to look those up!
@@Thom-TRA They call the Universal one a tram, but it doesn't run on tram tracks. They're just regular roads. It's the same kind of vehicle used on the Universal Studio Tour, or at Disney World's parking lots. It's a trackless train, or essentially just an articulated train-like shuttle bus.
rats, I still haven' t been on Angels flight. It is famous because of how it ends up in a lot of films. The grove is also seen in a lot of films and TV shows as well. You could see the trolley in almost all of them. I never actually been on the trolley but it's actually pretty gorgeous. The company that makes the Grove Trolley is also trying to lobby for a bi county lightrail that connects Santa Cruz County with Monterey County. It ticks me off because I think a bi county light rail could benefit both Monterey and Santa Cruz counties but tracks are very expensive. I only went to Getty Center once and did ride that cool tramway. It's way ahead of its time. aw, Going to Getty is still my favorite as a kid. Back then I dreamed of going to the place and in 2018 I finally did. My then girlfriend went first and I got there a week later. She dumped me in January 2019. I live in San Jose the only secret tram we have is at our historical park. There used to be this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfront_Red_Car
Not sure if it was mentioned in the comments but while Angels Flight is old, what you rode isn't the original location. It closed in 1969 and reopened in another spot in 1996.
Yes, half a block down. But it’s the original system.