If Ariana had just had a baby and her husband left her for another woman, Ariana fans would be foaming at the mouth, seeking revenge. But because it's someone else in pain and Ariana is the other woman, yall want to protect her at all costs.
right? image just having a baby and then your husband has to be away from you cause he got his dream job, and you feel happy but probably need him with you at that difficult time. Ethan will realise that not every woman will do something like that for him and that he lost a good one
Thank you for not kissing up to her. The amount of people infantilizing this grown 31 year old is insane. She not innocent and knows exactly what she’s doing.
@@allyce5889 Ariana and I are the same age and we're both on the petite side and young-looking. I would hate (and hate) to be treated like some precious, fragile little girl. So it's weird to me that she WANTS people to view her that way.
I’ve said it before and will say it again. No respectable woman (let alone married woman) pursues a man in a committed relationship with a child. No respectable man abandons his wife and child for another woman. They both did an absolutely terrible thing.
Unfortunately I was this woman 25 years ago before therapy. I can assure you the beginning is delusional bliss. The reality is any but. We divorced 7 years later. History repeats itself without therapy and accountability, so I chose to break the cycle. All I could do is ask for forgiveness from everyone it personally affected and the branches the family tree to whom also felt it. When you’re in it, you’re too selfish to realize how many people it affects. I stayed single and healed. Therapy was the bravest and most selfless thing I had ever done for myself and Im happy to say, I’ve been in a healthy and happy marriage for 5 years now. It’s bliss in reality.
Agree, I was in love with a man who was married and she was pregnant with their third child. Since we worked together I could not stop seeing him completely. But I didn't do anything with my feelings. Even when he felt the same way. I could not do that to his wife. I would go crazy if the same thing would happen to me.
She won’t. She’s way too intelligent for that. Plus, Ethan realllly did her dirty. Can you imagine how painful it would be to have their new relationship shoved in her face constantly while she was grieving. Dark days she went through as she stated in her essay. I would imagine some of the hardest days of her life.
Yup. The cheating is always, always about the cheater, never about the one being cheated on. Simply being left or broken up wth is different, that can happen, it does happen, and ultimately you can never force someone to be with you - relationships are always a mutual choice. But being cheated on? Never anything but an indicator of the cheater's moral compass and values - or lack thereof. I have no doubt whatsoever that in years to come he is going to regret this, HARD. He left a quality, loyal, substantial, solid, extremely intelligent woman with whom he had a child for a shiny, sparkly songstress who is going to leave him high and dry for HER next shiny, new object. At that point, he may have some empathy for the woman he did the same thing to.
What grinds my gears the most is that he didn't just hurt her, he embarrassed her, ruined her anonymity, and basically rendered her unfit to do her job as a mental health professional. He put her in a position where her patients might put their mommy and daddy issues to the side to ask how SHE'S doing. And the part that really drives it home for me is how Ariana was in the hospital room holding their baby before all this. She's like the Joker of Love, she thinks it's her job to prove to women that they don't control nothing in their relationship, your man isn't as happy as you think he is, and if she wants your man she can have him. It's such nasty work, her music don't even hit my ears the same.
@@Lake420H The fact that “Yes, And” and “The Boy Is Mine” were given so much grace is RIDICULOUS. They weren’t even particularly good, just barely serviceable songs for a rushed pop album. If Wicked promotion brings Lilly sadness, imagine hearing these two songs on the radio or at the mall? Something not only targeted specifically at you, but also centered around HAVING SEX WITH THE HUSBAND THAT CHEATED ON YOU AND RIDING HIS GENITALS
Imo, all men who gets into her wings are opportunistic and attention seeker. She is like a pick me girl who used like trophy. It's like transaction and shallow relationship.
that's why in his mind, getting with a more successful woman than his wife will help him humble her. Usually men in a relationship that's more successful than him tends to constantly find ways to compete with his wife to hopefully bring her down a peg. My sister has a higher paying job but she got with a man that makes less than her but her advise for me is that he is content with life. He's not a young guy who is still chasing a dream or a success, and he's ready to enter mundane life with a family. She said it's hard being in past relationship where both sides are still young and wants to compete with their significant other.
her therapist is her friend, she was at the wicked screening once w ariana, Freud was very clear in the psychology baby steps era that you should not involve yourself in relationships w patients because it creates bad dynamic
@@bakedandbeaded cancel culture is a day or week of bad publicity and then the world moves on, Ariana sings and people forgive/like her again.. even Chris Brown is not cancelled. Woody Allen isn’t cancelled. We don’t live in a perfect and just world.
It depend of how the artist take the situation the best way is to move on after the drama people(NPC) will miss you after a break with than make a good come back other wise you're cancel @@bakedandbeaded
Man lets just be real. Ariana at this point has been called out as a homewrecker, and somebody that likes to actively seek out men that are already in relationships. She has a whole song about it, and multiple songs with lyrics about it. She doesn't care about the women shes hurting, as long as shes getting what she wants.
@@grqndecat9862 have read the lyrics, how is a song clearly about her going after another woman's man about self love. Break up with your girlfriend, you can hit it in the morning... Like are we in delulu land.
I do not think Ariana Grande will ever fully recover from this scandal. She has turned off a ton of former fans. Ethan will never be loved and Ariana will dump him for the next thrill. He will be left with nothing except scandal.
@@Naturegurl124 bc companies just want to make money so they just make up these things. That's why. Cause all these "interviews" could just not be real
@emaski1047 she was speaking at a white house as a SA survivor, she finished multiple degrees and no one could say a bad word about her. Most of Ariana's "haters" were fans at one point, most people just dont like being lied to, do you know tabloids can work in favor of celebs too? Pop crave employee leaked Ariana's alleged * (because ariana's team goes after people doing complitaions of her old vids atp) messages to pop crave, she was mentioning them in her lives too, in those messages she asked them to take a post down. What do you think PR teams are for?
You forgot when mac dumped his girlfriend of 6 years to be with ari, and then tried to get back together with her after ariana cheated and dumped him for pete lol
Ariana has started (attempting to) speaking like Lilly Jay who's clearly educated and well-spoken but Ariana sounds foolish when she attempts to. "insatiable frustration, inexplicable blah blah"
she’s so fake and phony and feeds into this narrative so that her gullible fanatic fans defend her at all times. she’s manipulating everyone in this unfortunately real life situation 😂even her own fans whose heads are too far up her a$$ every second.
Lily Jay could not be more classy, plus seriously intelligent. I hope she's feeling better in her life and the knowledge that she has the love of her child to hold on too when it gets especially dark. If I could I would send her support and that I'm sure things will get better in time. Hugs
@Belle-o1u He could have been trapped and abused for years. It seems like Ariana's divorce might have given him ideas that he could get out. This essay goes to show just how messed up she is. Even after all this time she is unaccountable. She has no respect for the Christmas holidays wanting to cause yet more misery.
Lily's essay was so moving and heartbreaking. As much as I love Wicked, I won't lie, it's been completely ruined because of them ruining somebody's life. Truly Wicked behavior. "And goodness knows, the Wicked's lives are lonely"...karma is coming for you two.
i could watch ariana play glinda and only see glinda but the moment i saw ethan i could only see him. because i got to know ariana as a talented actor and singer while the first time i heard of ethan was with this scandal. first impressions stick really strongly.
One of the reasons that Wicked is a turn-off for me, despite being a lover of musicals, is because of the cast. Ariana, Cynthia, and Spongebob. The way they act during press con, the interviews? They're talented, yes, but that's it.
What was done to Lilly was horrible, but at the end of the day she can do so much better. She's pretty, still young and very successful and seems very nice. I think this will be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully she meets someone who deserves her.
Exactly, it's a blessing she's finally rid of that guy. He's a hideous little cretin inside and out, she was dating down since highschool when she can clearly do much better.
More like half a blessing since her reputation and career took a hit over it but you otherwise has a point. She will hopefully eventually meet someone that deserves her.
Despite the career downfall, Lily came out a winner! She got rid of someone in her life who proved he has no loyalty to her and her child. Meanwhile, Ariana and Spongey showed they have no self-respect or integrity and can keep that toxic energy amongst each other.
@laylascott6096 Writing a piece vs talking are two different things. My emails to clients at work is wayyyyy different than how I comment online or with friends,family and partners. 😂 I'm just saying. Also just because you're in the mental health field doesn't make you exempt from normal feelings or using slang. She also probably used "girls girl" so younger people would understand since that's Gen Z slang which also sums up her whole situation.
@@laylascott6096I mean... writing a paper/essay would use more formal language than talking on social media or to friends and family. So I give Lilly Jay a pass on that one.
despite all of these, I would still seek consultation from Dr Lily, because if theres someone who will understand some of the hardest things about pain especially about relationships it’s gonna be her. She’s so strong and brave.
I don’t see Ethan being end game for her. Feels like it was like a workplace crush that developed just because you’re around someone way younger much but in reality you’d never have found them attractive if you just saw them out on the street. When she single for a while then finds a man (who was also single) then I’ll believe it’s real. But her track record is rough!
It was not a crush thing. 💩iana, saw🤮than's gorg wife and how well educated she is and then it triggered 💩, insecurities and 🤮 was basically cheap and stupid just like 💩. So they fulfill each other
I agree. I think she was just playing games with him. She didn't expect the news to be leaked by the other cast members. She's in damage control now. But once the second movie is through she'll dump him.
@@RainPrincess1988y'all say this as if it's fact. You have no idea if she'll "dump him" - like these people will never find the love of their life and go through partners until they're in their 60s and 70s and never settle down?
Remember that the wife chose to be loyal and hard working, while Ariana and spongbob chose to intentionally ruin the wife's life. They also chose sex over the baby. Ariana and spongbob deserve all the criticism and more. They're adults and their actions deserve consequences.
@@1hcc994 but you dont know the truth neither. Because there is no evidence. I dont know if you heard about the Lily's 'interview' where she said "ariana is not a girls girl". Well, that interview was invented by Francesa Bacardi who has been hating ariana in Twitter for YEARS. She got fired after this. So, this shows that a lot of the internet news are fake, bc companies just want to make money
@@1hcc994 but you dont know the truth neither. I dont know if you heard about Lily Jay's interview where she said Ariana was not a girls girl. Well, this interview was made up by Francesca Bacardi who has been hating ariana for YEARS on Twitter. So this shows that a lot of news in the internet are fake bc companies just want to make money.
@@1hcc994 but you dont know the truth neither. I dont know if you heard about Lily Jay's interview where she said Ariana was not a girls girl. Well, this interview was made up by Francesca Bacardi who has been hating ariana for YEARS on Twitter. So this shows that a lot of news in the internet are fake bc companies just want to make money
Lilly Jay is so beautiful. It's so good to see a (now) publicish person that has not undergone several beauty procedures, but has a natural look with natural features and mimics and everything.
Ethan Slter looks like a cursed doll. It doesn’t help that he’s tryin to portray this childlike behaviour, like he is naive and clueless, but it makes it more creepy, for me personally. He saw the big opportunity to boost his career in Ariana and took it. But you can not sit on two chairs simultaneously and he sacrificed his family. Not for Ariana but for himself. He knows who she is and that she will drop him, don’t be silly!! She wanted to play her part and he played along feeding into her fantasy in which she in love with. Not him. And he is not in love with her but what she can give to him. When fantasy will fade away and the last drops of interest for their story too they both will move on to invent new drama. Come on.
fun fact: i learned the word homewrecker because of ariana grande. i was 9-10 years old reading tiger beat and they had a section titled “ariana’s a homewrecker?”
Not only do I have sympathy towards the lady, but that kid will grow up, knowing that his father left his mother in a vulnerable state. I would not describe Ariana as considering her reputation. The crap is going to keep carrying on from one person to the next.
@@helenf.7221 I saw on wayback machine. Lilly was confused about what constituted a healthy pregnancy. She had been made fearful about depression and was primed for a downfall.
I so badly wish Lily could call out Ariana and Ethan because all they are doing is lying on her name and the worst part, taking away her voice. The said her statement is fake and then are putting her in a contract where she can’t speak publicly. Reminds me of a similar drama that happened in Mexican expect the wife did speak out and made things clear
I don't have any like for Ariana and I feel 100% neutral about both Ethan and Lily but REALISTICALLY this is not true and I wish people would educate themselves about the law. No one took her voice. No one forced her to sign anything- they legally cannot. SHE agreed, in exchange for MONEY, to take her OWN VOICE away. She could have signed nothing and then she could have spoken as much as she wanted. She decided a quick payout was better so she cannot then complain about her voice being taken away. If she had spoken and then they had sued her for libel that would have been different but she willingly chose to agree to be quiet and then is trying to go around that agreement to still speak her piece.
@@sugarplum2467 Don’t be naïve. The loss of her job and future clients caused by them, made it so that they could deem her unfit to care for her baby due to financial instability. They made a threat to use their own financial resources and her lack thereof, to ensure they can take full custody of her child and win, and that is what’s so additionally nefarious about Ariana holding and kissing her newborn child while stealing her man, and they offered to let her keep the baby if she just signs here, in addition to being given enough money to make up for the money lost from her impacted career, so she chose silence and a compromised ego, for the sake of her child.
The crazy thing about this entire mess is that it's not going to last. Once ariana gets bored it's on to the next as we have seen time and time again with her. Once wicked era is complete and she starts a new project whether it be music or acting ethan's days will be numbered. Ariana will go on as normal and ethan will be left looking stupid.
Found this whole situation sad he left his lovely wife for Ariana who will get bored with him soon . Very stupid Man 🤦♀️. His wife seems lovely and what she just went through doesn't make her a bad therapist if anything she may be able fo help others going thru same .
To me it's clear that ari has pulled an Austin butler and has completely become her character. Ethan therefore fell in love with a persona, not the real ari. Once she'll start a new era and adapt yet another persona/image/race, he'll realise that this ari isn't the real true ari and that he never knew the real ari, and probably never will
No one made me sign an NDA and I don’t know all this because Lilly Jay directly told me, so I’m just gonna say it. The loss of her job and future clients caused by Ariana and Ethan’s relationship, made it so that they could deem Lilly Jay unfit to care for her baby due to the sudden financial instability. Ariana and Ethan made a threat to use their own resources and the fact that they have more money pooled together to raise the baby than Lilly Jay does, to ensure that they can try to take full custody of her child & win IF Lilly Jay won’t sign their NDA, and that is what’s so chilling about Ariana holding and kissing her newborn baby just before stealing her man. That was methodical. It was meant as a silent threat. They offered to let her keep her baby if she just signs here, (signing her silence about some of the sordid details including everything I’m saying right now), in addition to offering her enough money for staying silent to make up for the money lost from her impacted career so she can care for her baby with it. So she chose silence and a compromised ego, for the sake of her child. She put her baby first and foremost. Imagine losing your husband, your dignity, your job, and now your baby too. She didn’t want to lose one more thing, so that’s why she signed her own voice away. It was between speaking out about everything and losing her baby, or keeping her baby while remaining silent. Lilly Jay is also a smart woman, so she probably knew that even if she chose not to sign and chose to speak out about every detail, they would take custody of her child, lie about her and slander her to make it look justified, painting Lilly Jay as a bad person, a toxic partner, and an unfit mother, and making it look like everything Lilly Jay says is just to be petty and is not the truth, just to make what Ariana and Ethan is doing look less bad, and she knew that Ariana was already so beloved that people would way too easily believe it. They basically abused their power of public perception and used her baby as a bargaining chip. At that point, resistance is futile. Ethan and Ariana really did whatever it took to ensure they protect their own image from harm and prevent themselves from ever truly getting cancelled, without giving a damn if it ruins Lilly Jay’s image and cancels Lilly Jay in her profession in the process. Lilly Jay picked the smarter option. I think Lilly Jay is playing the long game, dropping breadcrumbs to the truth here and there, for others to figure out the whole entire picture on their own. That’s why the mention of job loss, the NDA, and the emphasis on Ariana kissing and holding her baby.
She didn't mention job loss. It sounds more like she got a bonus for shifting blame onto 'the other woman'. Over a year after gong to page 6 she wrote an essay gaslighting people like her tabloid frenzy never happened.
This is horrifying and i am saddened how people are too stupid to even understand the weight of everything that you wrote .. but man i hope there is hell because both ethan and ariana are pure evil if they concocted this over a person who has no power like that... only pure evil would do such a thing. And to think i was her fan... disgusting.
Lily is a smart woman. Picked the wrong guy tho. Wish her and her baby a blessed life. About Ariana … I got nothing to say but I will never listen to her songs again. Makes me sick ….
@@catkin-z8g You must be a blindly obsessed fan of Ariana if this is the stance that you’re taking. Why wouldn’t Lilly experience a tabloid frenzy? A big deal has been made over far less, so it’s not anything beyond plausibility. She really did lose many clients and a future job she had lined up. Also, I feel like she’s blaming both of them. Not just Ariana. Ethan’s the one who as her husband didn’t care what kind of impact this would have on her career because he only cares about his own, and Ariana didn’t care that she’d be hurting a new mother, Ariana holding and kissing her baby, telling Lilly that this is what she wants one day while secretly meaning with Lilly’s husband, TO HER FACE. I wonder if Ariana was even internally laughing at how clueless Lilly was about it at the time. Lilly also disliked them both flaunting it in public without consideration of how she would feel seeing that while experiencing heartbreak, abandonment, sadness for her child finding out about how terrible their father is one day, and postpartum depression after almost dying bringing his baby into this world. The humiliation and embarrassment. I always saw that she blamed them both for being so cruel and inconsiderate to her at such a sensitive, delicate, fragile, compromised time. I feel like she seems more hurt by him than her. He’s the one who was supposed to love and protect her heart. Not Ariana. He’s the one who could’ve left her if he didn’t love her anymore, but maybe not do it in such a callous and undeserving way. You must worship the ground Ariana walks on if you feel like Lilly is the problem.
@@Caffeinakxk Yeah… Sometimes smart people can still make dumb decisions, especially when it comes to love. I also wish her the best moving forward. This could be a blessing in disguise. She lost a man she deserved a lot better than, so now she has room to find someone more deserving of her. And maybe being forced into the public eye after wanting to be invisible for so long will help her sell some books because she’s a great writer. I hope she turns this negative thing into a positive.
Ariana has the mindset of thank you next. So she just takes whatever she wants and says the boy is mine. Lily on the other hand is a high value woman. She will get a man a million times better. Ariana and Ethan deserve each other. There at the same level.
The article was absolutely sad, angering and empowering, I couldn't imaging having to go through something so public. She deserves all the happiness in the future and has so much strength
My experience watching Wicked was ruined every time Ethan came on screen, I am so disgusted by that man, he is horrible inside and out, I wish him the worst.
honestly him being ugly isn't the problem. sure, she probably knew it gave him poor self confidence and made him easier to manipulate. but plenty of ugly dudes have integrity, which he clearly doesn't.
I hate that Ariana is getting praised for her role, and lily jay is dealing with so much consequences from Ariana’s horrible actions. The hard work she has done throughout her life to just be crushed by a selfish and greedy woman.
@@catkin-z8gNot at all. If none of her relationships overlapped then no one would be against her at all, except maybe for germophobes who don't want their donuts licked....
I hope Lilly remembers that essay when Ethan comes crawling back, and believe me, he eventually will. Once Ari finds another toy she will dump him like a hot potato. Hopefully, Lilly will tell him where to go and it’s not a nice place. I’ve still never gotten over Ariana’s behavior in the donut shop. She needs to ask her therapist for a refund, 15 years and she’s still acting like an idiot??!!!
Ethan being shocked by having commentary made on his current relationship with someone who has only ever had her relationships covered in media is some smooth brain logic. Dude, take some responsibility, the entire timeline of your current relationship is what people froth at the mouth over if covered by media. Get. Familiar. You. Did. This. "Oh no!!! It's the consequences of my actions!?!?!?"
My favorite defense from Ariana's fans was: "It's not good for the kids to stay in an unhappy marriage" These minions should write childrens book or self help or life coaching 😂
Because a messy divorce with cheating is so much better for the kids. Just ask Ariana herself, she was crying on Zach Sang about how her parents' divorce affected her and messed up her relationship with her dad. Ironic that she would play a part in doing the same to another kid.
I’m incredibly ready to see the happiness and serenity she deserves come to Dr. Jay, she’s started the process with this powerful essay. Class, eloquence, and courage. I believe AG was jealous of her intellect and poise, and wanted to break another woman down. Lily’s energy is big and purposeful, while Ariana’s light is weak and dependent. Winner = Lily and child (no more Spongeburden) Thanks for another great video!!❤
Exactly my thoughts! That weird 💩looking thing was extremely helaous and lilys intellect and education and beauty triggered her as always and 💩 wanted to break her relationship with that dumb🤢ass guy but 💩is still cheap and not classy well...💩 and🤢 found each other they're a perfect match
Every time I watched Ariana Grande on a talk show, I was always struck by her huge talent in singing and in doing impressions of others. When I started realizing what her track record was, I became less of an admirer. The relationship she had with Ethan Slater, and the circumstances surrounding it made me no longer admire her, and to dislike her. She is a snake trying to appear angelic. The promotion of "Wicked" with Cynthia Erivo, and the oddness surrounding their overly emotional presentation cemented my opinion.
@@Porcelynnn Lol chill I never said it was ok. I actually don't think it's any of our business. It's shady but I don't know Lilly so I'm not exactly upset for her.
What annoys me about this day and age is people are so quick to give up on relationships because of temporary unhappiness. Yes, maybe Lily and Ethan were drifting apart during her pregnancy, but they'd been together since high school and were supposed to be in a commited relationship. The fact he dumped her because he thought the grass was greener on the other side just makes you realise how weak minded he really is. Lily is extremely intelligent, academically and emotionally. I feel so bad for what happened to her but think she deserves so much better than that. A man that'll just run at the first sign of trouble is not someone you want to spend the rest of your life with.
The way she says“Insatiable, frustration, inexplicable hellish feeling “ sounds like she has learned some new words from a dictionary and is excited to say it when she meets someone 😭
I love Ari's music but she's a very disappointing person. Her parents divorce must've traumatized her for life. Imo, she won't be in a healthy and committed relationship until she gets over her daddy issues. I wonder if her father chose another woman over their family. If so, that would explain everything. Edit: I'm not trying to paint her as a victim. It's just genuinely mind boggling to see someone who was as blessed and gifted and adored and naturally beautiful as her behave this way over and over again. My theory is that she wants to feel the same rush and satisfaction that her father's alleged mistress felt even if she's self-destructing in the process.
She's still an adult who makes her own decisions. Abuse or pasts can explain but not excuse. She ruined a child's life for a fling and knew what she was doing (as did spongbob)
I would feel sorry for her if her behavior didn't hurt other people. Her parents' divorce was very messy and clearly affected her a lot, plus who knows what kind of creeps she was exposed to on Nick, not to mention the bombing on her concert and Mac's death shortly after their break up, she has gone through a lot. She just seems like she has very low self-esteem and doesn't really know who she is, even her constant shift in her appearance and persona shows that. Hopefully one day she will heal and truly find herself. It's sad to see such a talented woman relegate herself to being a side chick.
@@Fee___ I wasn't trying to make her out to be a victim. I just wanted to share my theory as to why someone who was born rich, has so much talent and was so naturally beautiful could turn out to be such a reprehensible person. It's genuinely mind boggling to see someone who had it all and was so adored move like this.
I don’t like being the person to comment on physical appearance but given the circumstances I will. Lilly Jay looks beautiful and natural, Ariana look sick and fake.
Reading her essay made me want to be her patient. I'm a doctor and can relate to the fear of public visibility and online footprint, which in some cases, can be career-ending. When you worked your entire life to get to where you are, invested countless of hours of studying and sacrificed so much of your personal life for your career, it becomes an integral part of your identity. And for it to be endangered by the malicious actions of your SO is horrendous. And that's only on top of your SO leaving you for another person while you're going through postpartum with your first child after possibly fatal pregnancy complications. She's a star.
Both Ariana and Ethan totally deserve each other and all the backlash. Ariana’s gonna get lifetime hate for this, and Ethan’s gonna end up single, never getting his wife’s trust or love back. He’s just a fling for Ariana-something exciting until she gets bored. And for Ethan, Ariana’s just a short-term symbol of success that won’t last
@Lakishia if you're unhappy in a relationship, then you end it like an adult. You don't cheat and betray your partner of many years just because you're unhappy. No one's saying you have to stay in an unhappy relationship forever, it's the cheating that's wrong
Laura Jay you are a remarkable woman! I do not think your career will suffer at all. The letter you wrote was human, heartfelt and respectable ,despite the pain you are suffering. I can’t imagine having my the experiences of my life blasted in the public eye. Please please NEVER take him back if he ever realizes what he has lost. One thing for sure your son will grow up one day and see what a great mom you are and come to understand what had happened and how graceful and respectfully you handled it because you were looking out for your son.never forget what a truly amazing woman you are!love to you and your son and I feel you have a very happy future ahead of you❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This is my second comment. I was just thinking...what if all of this weird relationship with her Wicked co star was a PR movement to make her be seen like..."a girls' girl"? They got hundreds of tattoos together, are seen crying together, saying how much they mean to each other and shit...
I feel for lily its very clear they cheated when he ethan did stop or ask lily j not to come to be with him . However then filing for divorce a couple months later. So when he finally had to be a father and husband he ran for the hills. Not lily fault at all he is simply a weak and selfish person reminds me of the person he is with now. I wish lily j and her son the very best and may you find another who will make you relize how much you deserved a real love.
If they were innocent, they’d have proved it because it’s such a huge public scandal and could’ve/ might’ve permanently ruined their careers/ legacies. But all they say is ‘the media misconstrues everything and misunderstands people I love and I cant explain how much it hurts’…. What are you talking about?! They sound so guilty
I believe they are going to stay together until Wicked 2, then a couple of months later, Ariana will seek another man, and the cycle will repeat lol. From your posts, I remember that you mention that Ariana will seek something specific from every man she is with, with Pete being lightness and Dalton being anonymity; in your opinion, what does she want from Ethan?
Ethan brings her back to her roots on Broadway and probably reminds her of a simpler time before she was mega famous. She has even said she plans on taking more acting roles, it seems like that's her new personality
Lily jay is so beautiful, a wild and untamed beauty. I really wish her the best, my heart breaks for her. I’m so disgusted by Ariana and SpongeBob. May they never have peace.
people can develop feelings for someone while being in a relationship but its the way they were so disrespectful to lily that is so disgusting, girl was going through a hard time and they couldn't wait a few months to start showing people their perfect romance, and im not talking about having to hide but in Hollywood everyone dates people and the public never finds out. Do what makes you happy but dont forget you can be hurting people in the way
I agree. If you fall in love, you fall in love. But I don’t believe they fell in love because they seem very interested in rubbing it in Lily’s face. Esp w/ Ariana reposting her “I stole your man” song the same day Lily’s essay came out. She likes that Lily is hurting. Ariana is a bad person.
@@The7MISSFITS That’s why they say with power comes responsibility. ALL of our true colors would be exposed if we had the power/influence Ariana does. Some of us would pass while others would fail..
As soon as the wicked movies wrap up, she’ll dump him. She can’t dump him now because that would take away from her precious moment of working on her dream role. Notice how Whenever Ariana falls for somebody, she makes it everyone’s business. Posting nauseating phrases and pictures of her and her lover. This time around, she didn’t do this with SpongeBob. And it’s very obvious it’s because it’s a tainted relationship. But she can’t dump him. not yet. not until her precious movies are over.
Lilly is taller than Ethan, SpongeBob must have felt insecure. Lilly is a highly educated woman who is in healthcare. The most disgusting incident in this situation is that their "Wicked" co-stars in a podcast said, "infidelity needs a more nuanced conversation". Like 🙄. These people are truly wicked. There's NO "nuance" needed about cheating. It is a choice made to hurt your partner/spouse.
OK OK OK, I had no IDEA, she nearly died in childbirth that’s just makes this whole situation, even more SICK and devastating. How can Ariana do this and how could anyone dare defend her for it? God I can’t even listen to her music anymore…
I lived through a similar situation, some men aren't strong enough to handle parenthood and supporting a new mother. Weak men cheat, weak men leave marriages because it's easy, staying and supporting the baby you made and keeping your promises to care for your wife takes strength and honour. Ariana can keep her weak man and I hope she gets what she deserves
It seems like Ethan is the new Pete Davidson; Ariana dates down/someone not in her league who will worship her, exciting at first but eventually regrettable & impermanent, and she’ll move on. I’m observing how different she is from Taylor Swift, for instance. Note how different their songs describe exes; Ariana acts like she’s fine, she’s over it, thank you next- because she IS fine…Whereas Taylor dates “up” or at her level. She wears her heart on her sleeve, dissecting every moment, trying to grapple with extricating herself from a deep well of emotion for someone who’s become a stranger. It’s soul crushing when your plans go awry. I don’t think Ariana is that deep- she’s light & fluffy. She truly keeps it moving and perhaps surface level. Not saying either is right or wrong, it just is.
I was talking about this with my friend yesterday about the kind of person you have to be to be with your highschool sweetheart you have known nearly half your life or more and leave her right during the time she needs you the most after birthing your first child while dealing with postpartum when your husband needs to be there to strengthen his wife and be there for his child. Humans are not meant to be alone especially in the family unit. WHat he did was selfish as hell. And he did it being blinded by her manipulation of her light around her fame and his dreams. Try an tell me different.. I believe it 100%. To then destroy something I believe in as sacred as she probably did too and then file legal action against her. That's even darker to me guys. That reads as Ari saying, if you expose what we did I'll take what little you were able to walk away with. No ones mad you fell in love. Its the circumstances in which you did it because you've gotten everything you want in life and believe it belongs to you without any consequences. Without a care for anyone but your own wants and needs. Especially given the stakes. I wonder after if after the thrill of taking him away and getting what she wanted if the spark has died already because to me her actions and words feel forced. something doesn't seem genuine. Anyways I am someone who always believed in love from such a young age and it has become a sad joke these days. Something unattainable, a dream merely. And this to me is almost unforgivable. However I do believe in forgiveness and redemption as people can grow and change if they WANT to. And I also believe in karma and consequences. Gosh I just think about Lillie's pain as she can only sit and wait until her own emotional storm passes because there's nothing left to do at that point. SO sad man.
This story makes me so angry. Especially knowing Ariana and Ethan won't receive much or any consequences while Lily has to mourn her divorce, be a single mother, and deal with the impacts on her career. I'm rooting for her. She's a beautiful, smart and classy woman, so I have no doubt she will come out of this even better. I'm so sick of Hollyweird. These people get away with anything because society worships and adores them. And for what??
He was just supposed to be her work boo, it was never supposed to go further than that. But she just had to show yet another woman that she has the power to make him leave. I think she likes doing it, because this isn't the first or even the second time. She's known for doing this.
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If Ariana had just had a baby and her husband left her for another woman, Ariana fans would be foaming at the mouth, seeking revenge. But because it's someone else in pain and Ariana is the other woman, yall want to protect her at all costs.
Good point!
I'm gonna laugh so hard when her time comes. Can't wait 😂
This is so real
As a ari fan (kinda rethinking being a ran rn) this is so true
This part.
Pretty privilege, is a huge part of this too.
Lilly was already so far out of his league it’s unreal.
Exactly
I don't like the "Don't give an ugly guy a chance, he'll think he rules the world" saying, but each day it seems to become more truthful
right? image just having a baby and then your husband has to be away from you cause he got his dream job, and you feel happy but probably need him with you at that difficult time. Ethan will realise that not every woman will do something like that for him and that he lost a good one
She deserves a good man. I'm glad she found out what a pos he is now instead of wasting the rest of her life with someone who doesn't appreciate her😢
Never give a loser a chance to hurt you.
Thank you for not kissing up to her. The amount of people infantilizing this grown 31 year old is insane. She not innocent and knows exactly what she’s doing.
she upholds her "smol" image because people pity her and strip off of accountability
💯 they are all aww she looks sick😢 if she's so sick she wouldn't be having time or energy to steal husbands
I honestly think she cultivates the image of a small girl, fragile and frail so that people want to protect her and care for her.
@@allyce5889 Ariana and I are the same age and we're both on the petite side and young-looking. I would hate (and hate) to be treated like some precious, fragile little girl. So it's weird to me that she WANTS people to view her that way.
Exactly I hate how they infantile her like she is in her 30s . She just looks frail but evil
I’ve said it before and will say it again.
No respectable woman (let alone married woman) pursues a man in a committed relationship with a child.
No respectable man abandons his wife and child for another woman.
They both did an absolutely terrible thing.
They honestly perfect for each other in that sense. Two disgusting individuals
Agreed, their behaviour had been and still is awful, I feel for Lily Jay
Unfortunately I was this woman 25 years ago before therapy.
I can assure you the beginning is delusional bliss. The reality is any but.
We divorced 7 years later. History repeats itself without therapy and accountability, so I chose to break the cycle.
All I could do is ask for forgiveness from everyone it personally affected and the branches the family tree to whom also felt it.
When you’re in it, you’re too selfish to realize how many people it affects.
I stayed single and healed. Therapy was the bravest and most selfless thing I had ever done for myself and Im happy to say, I’ve been in a healthy and happy marriage for 5 years now. It’s bliss in reality.
Agree, I was in love with a man who was married and she was pregnant with their third child.
Since we worked together I could not stop seeing him completely. But I didn't do anything with my feelings. Even when he felt the same way.
I could not do that to his wife. I would go crazy if the same thing would happen to me.
This
When Ariana leaves him. I hope Lilly doesn't take him back when he decides he wants his family back like men usually do.
This is my fear too for this whole mess. Usually women take them back 😢 and that needs to stop
She wont
She won’t. She’s way too intelligent for that. Plus, Ethan realllly did her dirty. Can you imagine how painful it would be to have their new relationship shoved in her face constantly while she was grieving. Dark days she went through as she stated in her essay. I would imagine some of the hardest days of her life.
Lily will be hooked up with someone waaay more suited to her… a brain surgeon or astrophysicist hunk!!! I can’t wait for her to start writing books x
Shes too smart to take him back when Ariana throws him away out of boredom
My Ma used to say:
'If someone cheats WITH you, don't be shocked when they cheat ON you.'
amen to that. Ethan is going to crying back to Lily soon lmao
Exactly! Ethan Slater is a fool!
How you get them is how you lose them ❤
Yup. The cheating is always, always about the cheater, never about the one being cheated on. Simply being left or broken up wth is different, that can happen, it does happen, and ultimately you can never force someone to be with you - relationships are always a mutual choice. But being cheated on? Never anything but an indicator of the cheater's moral compass and values - or lack thereof. I have no doubt whatsoever that in years to come he is going to regret this, HARD. He left a quality, loyal, substantial, solid, extremely intelligent woman with whom he had a child for a shiny, sparkly songstress who is going to leave him high and dry for HER next shiny, new object. At that point, he may have some empathy for the woman he did the same thing to.
You lose them how you got them
What grinds my gears the most is that he didn't just hurt her, he embarrassed her, ruined her anonymity, and basically rendered her unfit to do her job as a mental health professional. He put her in a position where her patients might put their mommy and daddy issues to the side to ask how SHE'S doing. And the part that really drives it home for me is how Ariana was in the hospital room holding their baby before all this. She's like the Joker of Love, she thinks it's her job to prove to women that they don't control nothing in their relationship, your man isn't as happy as you think he is, and if she wants your man she can have him. It's such nasty work, her music don't even hit my ears the same.
It’s the ‘that boy is mine’ song for me. I can’t even listen to it bc it just sounds like it was about stealing him
And the "Yes.. And?" song too. I was like no ma'am.
@@Ms9mmBeretta no literally like why is she A. Flaunting it like it’s something to be proud of. And B. Not embarrassed? 😭
@@Lake420H The fact that “Yes, And” and “The Boy Is Mine” were given so much grace is RIDICULOUS. They weren’t even particularly good, just barely serviceable songs for a rushed pop album.
If Wicked promotion brings Lilly sadness, imagine hearing these two songs on the radio or at the mall? Something not only targeted specifically at you, but also centered around HAVING SEX WITH THE HUSBAND THAT CHEATED ON YOU AND RIDING HIS GENITALS
Imo, all men who gets into her wings are opportunistic and attention seeker. She is like a pick me girl who used like trophy. It's like transaction and shallow relationship.
I bet you Ethan was very insecure in his marriage, deep down hiding the fact that he feels uneducated and unworthy of such an esteemed woman.
that's why in his mind, getting with a more successful woman than his wife will help him humble her. Usually men in a relationship that's more successful than him tends to constantly find ways to compete with his wife to hopefully bring her down a peg. My sister has a higher paying job but she got with a man that makes less than her but her advise for me is that he is content with life. He's not a young guy who is still chasing a dream or a success, and he's ready to enter mundane life with a family. She said it's hard being in past relationship where both sides are still young and wants to compete with their significant other.
Wow imagine being in therapy for 15 years and still not being able to reflect on your own behavior.
her therapist is her friend, she was at the wicked screening once w ariana, Freud was very clear in the psychology baby steps era that you should not involve yourself in relationships w patients because it creates bad dynamic
imagine being therapists like russian dolls keeping each other from being able to reflect on your own behavior.
A lot of therapists to the wealthy are just in it for the check and will say whatever to keep the checks coming
She released those songs on purpose. She knew exactly what she was doing. The fact that she is not yet cancelled is shocking.
Cancel culture is not real! It’s just another day of publicity for them.
@@Porcelynnn Cancel culture is real, but some people are just too $$$ to actually be cancelled, unfortunately.
It's not surprising unfortunately. If you're pretty, talented, rich and famous enough you can get away with almost everything 😅
@@bakedandbeaded cancel culture is a day or week of bad publicity and then the world moves on, Ariana sings and people forgive/like her again.. even Chris Brown is not cancelled. Woody Allen isn’t cancelled. We don’t live in a perfect and just world.
It depend of how the artist take the situation the best way is to move on after the drama people(NPC) will miss you after a break with than make a good come back other wise you're cancel @@bakedandbeaded
Man lets just be real. Ariana at this point has been called out as a homewrecker, and somebody that likes to actively seek out men that are already in relationships. She has a whole song about it, and multiple songs with lyrics about it. She doesn't care about the women shes hurting, as long as shes getting what she wants.
I still remember when she said she wrote "break up with your girlfriend (cause im bored)" as a joke but like clearly it was not
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@@litneyloxani’m pretty sure it’s about self love as she goes to kiss a girl at the end that looks very similar to ari herself in the music vid
@@grqndecat9862the degree that y’all defend her to is insane. Delusional.
@@grqndecat9862 have read the lyrics, how is a song clearly about her going after another woman's man about self love. Break up with your girlfriend, you can hit it in the morning... Like are we in delulu land.
I do not think Ariana Grande will ever fully recover from this scandal. She has turned off a ton of former fans. Ethan will never be loved and Ariana will dump him for the next thrill. He will be left with nothing except scandal.
The rest of 💩' fans are dumb teenagers, they are the slay queen group. A healthy human would not applaud that
He is so dumb, she'll probably move on sooner or later and get a new boyfriend but he'll alone and sad
And then she'll cheat on that boyfriend too. 😮@@RishakwMathebula-cg3kh
Nobody cares. Most people don't even like the idea of getting married and lots are celebrating her cheating "empowerment". Feminists are such a joke
She'll be fine because fans have short attention spans and a lot of them already love her again and they even like Ethan now.
He fumbled the ball because Lily is beautiful, classy and intelligent.
You dont even know her... Y'all just defend her cause you dont like ariana and you believe everything that's in the internet
@emaski1047 GEE, I WONDER WHY?? And you don't even know Ariana either 😂
@@Naturegurl124 bc companies just want to make money so they just make up these things. That's why. Cause all these "interviews" could just not be real
@emaski1047 gross, an Ari stan
@emaski1047 she was speaking at a white house as a SA survivor, she finished multiple degrees and no one could say a bad word about her. Most of Ariana's "haters" were fans at one point, most people just dont like being lied to, do you know tabloids can work in favor of celebs too? Pop crave employee leaked Ariana's alleged * (because ariana's team goes after people doing complitaions of her old vids atp) messages to pop crave, she was mentioning them in her lives too, in those messages she asked them to take a post down. What do you think PR teams are for?
You forgot when mac dumped his girlfriend of 6 years to be with ari, and then tried to get back together with her after ariana cheated and dumped him for pete lol
ariana allegedly wasnt invited to his funeral, meanwhile his ex was, also pete's ex bonded w mac's family and dated his brother
@Belle-o1uIt matters because it gives context to Ariana’s past and character. A person being dead doesn’t change them being apart of your past.
Then we got ariana fans saying he was her soulmate when she shit talked him on social media before he died while she was with Pete.
Ariana has started (attempting to) speaking like Lilly Jay who's clearly educated and well-spoken but Ariana sounds foolish when she attempts to. "insatiable frustration, inexplicable blah blah"
That weird looking thing ew🤮🤮🤢🤢
It honestly sounded like she was uncomfortable wielding these words and used them in ill-fitting context. It was clunky af
Has she? Girl bye 😭
She screw around on you losers
she’s so fake and phony and feeds into this narrative so that her gullible fanatic fans defend her at all times. she’s manipulating everyone in this unfortunately real life situation 😂even her own fans whose heads are too far up her a$$ every second.
Lily Jay could not be more classy, plus seriously intelligent. I hope she's feeling better in her life and the knowledge that she has the love of her child to hold on too when it gets especially dark. If I could I would send her support and that I'm sure things will get better in time. Hugs
@Belle-o1u He could have been trapped and abused for years. It seems like Ariana's divorce might have given him ideas that he could get out. This essay goes to show just how messed up she is. Even after all this time she is unaccountable. She has no respect for the Christmas holidays wanting to cause yet more misery.
@@catkin-z8gAbused ?! By the therapist ? Gtfo of here.
Lily's essay was so moving and heartbreaking. As much as I love Wicked, I won't lie, it's been completely ruined because of them ruining somebody's life. Truly Wicked behavior.
"And goodness knows, the Wicked's lives are lonely"...karma is coming for you two.
Is nobody interested in the wicked ? Haha yay
i could watch ariana play glinda and only see glinda but the moment i saw ethan i could only see him.
because i got to know ariana as a talented actor and singer while the first time i heard of ethan was with this scandal.
first impressions stick really strongly.
One of the reasons that Wicked is a turn-off for me, despite being a lover of musicals, is because of the cast. Ariana, Cynthia, and Spongebob. The way they act during press con, the interviews? They're talented, yes, but that's it.
You still watched Wicked? 🙄
@@Gobialien you telling others how to use their money? 🙄
What was done to Lilly was horrible, but at the end of the day she can do so much better. She's pretty, still young and very successful and seems very nice. I think this will be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully she meets someone who deserves her.
Exactly, it's a blessing she's finally rid of that guy. He's a hideous little cretin inside and out, she was dating down since highschool when she can clearly do much better.
@Belle-o1u oh yes because single mothers in their 30s never get remarried...lol get some life experience, kid.
More like half a blessing since her reputation and career took a hit over it but you otherwise has a point. She will hopefully eventually meet someone that deserves her.
Despite the career downfall, Lily came out a winner! She got rid of someone in her life who proved he has no loyalty to her and her child. Meanwhile, Ariana and Spongey showed they have no self-respect or integrity and can keep that toxic energy amongst each other.
She is just going to dump him when she gets bored of him.
100
There's already blind items that she's started flirting with men in relationships. paul mescal, Penn Badgley & adam Brody 🤦🏾♀️
@@WeObsessOverPopCulture true, i've read a blind item today which said that they've broken up already
I Hope he'll try to get lily then, get rejected And humiliated
She probably only wanted him because she couldn’t have him. Now that she has him, she will get bored of him fast.
Lilly jay's essay really hit me hard. Shame on ariana and ethan.
Now, knowing that quote from Lily Jay of Arianna not being a girls girl hits differently when we know she's a trained psychiatrist.
That's the only reason it hits differently 😂 girl bye.
That not a girl’s girl comment doesn’t seem to match the intellect and emotional maturity of Lily’s open letter
@laylascott6096
Writing a piece vs talking are two different things. My emails to clients at work is wayyyyy different than how I comment online or with friends,family and partners. 😂 I'm just saying. Also just because you're in the mental health field doesn't make you exempt from normal feelings or using slang. She also probably used "girls girl" so younger people would understand since that's Gen Z slang which also sums up her whole situation.
@@laylascott6096I mean... writing a paper/essay would use more formal language than talking on social media or to friends and family. So I give Lilly Jay a pass on that one.
*psychologist
despite all of these, I would still seek consultation from Dr Lily, because if theres someone who will understand some of the hardest things about pain especially about relationships it’s gonna be her. She’s so strong and brave.
I cannot get over Ethen looking SO much like her brother.
He doesn't 💀 her brother is feminine looking and looks like he puts on makeup. Ethan looks a lot more masculine.
They're both meant for each other. Looking all sickly and all 🥰
It's weird honestly, like are they being drugged? They look actually terrible 😮
I agree. It's karma for their ugly choices
True they both look like dying Victorian children
I don’t see Ethan being end game for her. Feels like it was like a workplace crush that developed just because you’re around someone way younger much but in reality you’d never have found them attractive if you just saw them out on the street. When she single for a while then finds a man (who was also single) then I’ll believe it’s real. But her track record is rough!
It was not a crush thing. 💩iana, saw🤮than's gorg wife and how well educated she is and then it triggered 💩, insecurities and 🤮 was basically cheap and stupid just like 💩. So they fulfill each other
I’ve heard he was also one of the only straight men on set so her options were limited
@@1hcc994options? SHE WAS MARRIED
I agree. I think she was just playing games with him. She didn't expect the news to be leaked by the other cast members. She's in damage control now. But once the second movie is through she'll dump him.
@@RainPrincess1988y'all say this as if it's fact. You have no idea if she'll "dump him" - like these people will never find the love of their life and go through partners until they're in their 60s and 70s and never settle down?
Remember that the wife chose to be loyal and hard working, while Ariana and spongbob chose to intentionally ruin the wife's life. They also chose sex over the baby. Ariana and spongbob deserve all the criticism and more. They're adults and their actions deserve consequences.
Its still non of your business. And they got separated before they started dating
@emaski1047if you don’t like the truth go watch an Ariana video she knows how to lie
@@1hcc994 but you dont know the truth neither. Because there is no evidence. I dont know if you heard about the Lily's 'interview' where she said "ariana is not a girls girl". Well, that interview was invented by Francesa Bacardi who has been hating ariana in Twitter for YEARS. She got fired after this. So, this shows that a lot of the internet news are fake, bc companies just want to make money
@@1hcc994 but you dont know the truth neither. I dont know if you heard about Lily Jay's interview where she said Ariana was not a girls girl. Well, this interview was made up by Francesca Bacardi who has been hating ariana for YEARS on Twitter. So this shows that a lot of news in the internet are fake bc companies just want to make money.
@@1hcc994 but you dont know the truth neither. I dont know if you heard about Lily Jay's interview where she said Ariana was not a girls girl. Well, this interview was made up by Francesca Bacardi who has been hating ariana for YEARS on Twitter. So this shows that a lot of news in the internet are fake bc companies just want to make money
Lilly Jay is so beautiful. It's so good to see a (now) publicish person that has not undergone several beauty procedures, but has a natural look with natural features and mimics and everything.
Ariana's face was altered by surgeons.
@@norijean3279yeah no shit? they weren’t debating that?
Ethan Slter looks like a cursed doll. It doesn’t help that he’s tryin to portray this childlike behaviour, like he is naive and clueless, but it makes it more creepy, for me personally. He saw the big opportunity to boost his career in Ariana and took it. But you can not sit on two chairs simultaneously and he sacrificed his family. Not for Ariana but for himself. He knows who she is and that she will drop him, don’t be silly!! She wanted to play her part and he played along feeding into her fantasy in which she in love with. Not him. And he is not in love with her but what she can give to him. When fantasy will fade away and the last drops of interest for their story too they both will move on to invent new drama. Come on.
HE FUMBLED HIS HIGHSCHOOL SWEETHEART HE IS SO SCREWED FOR LIFEEEE! He had someone so pure and loved him for him. Now, he will never get that again.
Exactly
fun fact: i learned the word homewrecker because of ariana grande. i was 9-10 years old reading tiger beat and they had a section titled “ariana’s a homewrecker?”
I learned it at 15 because of her too
Not only do I have sympathy towards the lady, but that kid will grow up, knowing that his father left his mother in a vulnerable state.
I would not describe Ariana as considering her reputation. The crap is going to keep carrying on from one person to the next.
My SIL had a father who left when she was young. The affects carry nearly 20 years later.
Lily Jay's essay was so powerful & moving that I just HAD to pay for it!!! ❤
It felt like we all got free therapy 🥹❤️ it was so moving!
Did this channel read almost the whole essay? Or is there more to it?
@@helenf.7221 I saw on wayback machine. Lilly was confused about what constituted a healthy pregnancy. She had been made fearful about depression and was primed for a downfall.
Everyone officially calling him spongbob😂
he gives spongebob such a bad rep 😢
I’ve seen people call him Spongeboq, because of his role in Wicked lol
Spongebob would never
I call him Sponge because saying the full name is too much of an insult to Spongebob.
„…my therapist couldn‘t even work with me anymore…“ WOW, why is Miss Babyface and Babyvoice sounding so aggressive?
I so badly wish Lily could call out Ariana and Ethan because all they are doing is lying on her name and the worst part, taking away her voice. The said her statement is fake and then are putting her in a contract where she can’t speak publicly. Reminds me of a similar drama that happened in Mexican expect the wife did speak out and made things clear
I hope she writes a tell-all book and exposes them, personally. There's always loopholes in those stupid NDAs
Lily spoke out too, I think. And she did it with class!
I don't have any like for Ariana and I feel 100% neutral about both Ethan and Lily but REALISTICALLY this is not true and I wish people would educate themselves about the law. No one took her voice. No one forced her to sign anything- they legally cannot. SHE agreed, in exchange for MONEY, to take her OWN VOICE away. She could have signed nothing and then she could have spoken as much as she wanted. She decided a quick payout was better so she cannot then complain about her voice being taken away. If she had spoken and then they had sued her for libel that would have been different but she willingly chose to agree to be quiet and then is trying to go around that agreement to still speak her piece.
@@sugarplum2467 Don’t be naïve. The loss of her job and future clients caused by them, made it so that they could deem her unfit to care for her baby due to financial instability. They made a threat to use their own financial resources and her lack thereof, to ensure they can take full custody of her child and win, and that is what’s so additionally nefarious about Ariana holding and kissing her newborn child while stealing her man, and they offered to let her keep the baby if she just signs here, in addition to being given enough money to make up for the money lost from her impacted career, so she chose silence and a compromised ego, for the sake of her child.
@@sugarplum2467 It seems like all of these comments are people trying to twist things further. Lilly really does seem to have a very toxic crowd.
The crazy thing about this entire mess is that it's not going to last. Once ariana gets bored it's on to the next as we have seen time and time again with her. Once wicked era is complete and she starts a new project whether it be music or acting ethan's days will be numbered. Ariana will go on as normal and ethan will be left looking stupid.
yep, he's just another Pete Davison in her track record. She'll move on when she's done getting publicity for Wicked
Ariana will be done with this guy soon. What Ariana and Ethan have done is truly wicked.
Found this whole situation sad he left his lovely wife for Ariana who will get bored with him soon . Very stupid Man 🤦♀️. His wife seems lovely and what she just went through doesn't make her a bad therapist if anything she may be able fo help others going thru same .
So true. What she went through was terrible. I will never understand why ppl cheat, especially on someone that you have a CHILD with!!😭
He apparently cheated because he felt trapped and just settled.
@bohlalenchabeleng1370 him thinking that HE settled is hilarious. What a sad, strange little man. He has my pity lol
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370That’s hilarious considering she was out of his league.
@@ashcruz904 She was his high-school sweetheart you know?
Why does it look like Ariana is now cosplaying as Audrey hepburn👀?
Because she doesn’t know who she is and she just cosplays whoever she wants to be, it’s honestly creepy
U got it
I saw one of her fans today on twt calling her Audrey hepburn and i just burst out laughing😂😂
she is desperate for biopic, but Rooney Mara is cast in that
She's sort of twinning Dylan Mulvaney
To me it's clear that ari has pulled an Austin butler and has completely become her character. Ethan therefore fell in love with a persona, not the real ari. Once she'll start a new era and adapt yet another persona/image/race, he'll realise that this ari isn't the real true ari and that he never knew the real ari, and probably never will
holy shit i got goosebumps hearing you read lilly's essay. not enough people who covered this went THIS deep into it, fucking THANK you.
The TikTok with the guy calling her spoilt selfish brat was so on point.
i know exactly the one you’re referencing lmfao
She wasn’t told NO enough as a child..
She's an incredible actress.
Most narcissists are really good in acting, they pretend to be someone to get what they want.....
Okayyy???? Creepy
I don't even think she's that good of an actress but I respect those who do tbh.
@@blackwaldorfmaybe in real life she is ONLY because she’s lying but not so much on screen..
@emaski1047yes narcs are creepy indeed..
No one made me sign an NDA and I don’t know all this because Lilly Jay directly told me, so I’m just gonna say it. The loss of her job and future clients caused by Ariana and Ethan’s relationship, made it so that they could deem Lilly Jay unfit to care for her baby due to the sudden financial instability. Ariana and Ethan made a threat to use their own resources and the fact that they have more money pooled together to raise the baby than Lilly Jay does, to ensure that they can try to take full custody of her child & win IF Lilly Jay won’t sign their NDA, and that is what’s so chilling about Ariana holding and kissing her newborn baby just before stealing her man. That was methodical. It was meant as a silent threat. They offered to let her keep her baby if she just signs here, (signing her silence about some of the sordid details including everything I’m saying right now), in addition to offering her enough money for staying silent to make up for the money lost from her impacted career so she can care for her baby with it. So she chose silence and a compromised ego, for the sake of her child. She put her baby first and foremost. Imagine losing your husband, your dignity, your job, and now your baby too. She didn’t want to lose one more thing, so that’s why she signed her own voice away. It was between speaking out about everything and losing her baby, or keeping her baby while remaining silent. Lilly Jay is also a smart woman, so she probably knew that even if she chose not to sign and chose to speak out about every detail, they would take custody of her child, lie about her and slander her to make it look justified, painting Lilly Jay as a bad person, a toxic partner, and an unfit mother, and making it look like everything Lilly Jay says is just to be petty and is not the truth, just to make what Ariana and Ethan is doing look less bad, and she knew that Ariana was already so beloved that people would way too easily believe it. They basically abused their power of public perception and used her baby as a bargaining chip. At that point, resistance is futile. Ethan and Ariana really did whatever it took to ensure they protect their own image from harm and prevent themselves from ever truly getting cancelled, without giving a damn if it ruins Lilly Jay’s image and cancels Lilly Jay in her profession in the process. Lilly Jay picked the smarter option. I think Lilly Jay is playing the long game, dropping breadcrumbs to the truth here and there, for others to figure out the whole entire picture on their own. That’s why the mention of job loss, the NDA, and the emphasis on Ariana kissing and holding her baby.
She didn't mention job loss. It sounds more like she got a bonus for shifting blame onto 'the other woman'. Over a year after gong to page 6 she wrote an essay gaslighting people like her tabloid frenzy never happened.
This is horrifying and i am saddened how people are too stupid to even understand the weight of everything that you wrote .. but man i hope there is hell because both ethan and ariana are pure evil if they concocted this over a person who has no power like that... only pure evil would do such a thing. And to think i was her fan... disgusting.
Lily is a smart woman. Picked the wrong guy tho. Wish her and her baby a blessed life. About Ariana … I got nothing to say but I will never listen to her songs again. Makes me sick ….
@@catkin-z8g You must be a blindly obsessed fan of Ariana if this is the stance that you’re taking. Why wouldn’t Lilly experience a tabloid frenzy? A big deal has been made over far less, so it’s not anything beyond plausibility. She really did lose many clients and a future job she had lined up. Also, I feel like she’s blaming both of them. Not just Ariana. Ethan’s the one who as her husband didn’t care what kind of impact this would have on her career because he only cares about his own, and Ariana didn’t care that she’d be hurting a new mother, Ariana holding and kissing her baby, telling Lilly that this is what she wants one day while secretly meaning with Lilly’s husband, TO HER FACE. I wonder if Ariana was even internally laughing at how clueless Lilly was about it at the time. Lilly also disliked them both flaunting it in public without consideration of how she would feel seeing that while experiencing heartbreak, abandonment, sadness for her child finding out about how terrible their father is one day, and postpartum depression after almost dying bringing his baby into this world. The humiliation and embarrassment. I always saw that she blamed them both for being so cruel and inconsiderate to her at such a sensitive, delicate, fragile, compromised time. I feel like she seems more hurt by him than her. He’s the one who was supposed to love and protect her heart. Not Ariana. He’s the one who could’ve left her if he didn’t love her anymore, but maybe not do it in such a callous and undeserving way. You must worship the ground Ariana walks on if you feel like Lilly is the problem.
@@Caffeinakxk Yeah… Sometimes smart people can still make dumb decisions, especially when it comes to love. I also wish her the best moving forward. This could be a blessing in disguise. She lost a man she deserved a lot better than, so now she has room to find someone more deserving of her. And maybe being forced into the public eye after wanting to be invisible for so long will help her sell some books because she’s a great writer. I hope she turns this negative thing into a positive.
Lilly Jay's essay was beautiful and powerful.
Yeahh... It would've been better if it was ACTUALLY written by her.
she pit it behind a paywall which obviously help in the smearing of Ariana.
@emaski1047It sounds like everything else she has written. Plus, putting her name on something she didn't write would be illegal.
My dad did something similar to my mom… and he strategically threw her to the wolves. I’m grown now and I still don’t forgive him.
SpongeBob & Ariana are too dumb to know: Noone escapes their Karma‼️
They literally think “oh this will all blow over soon” smh!
@@ScandalousMediaTeait will hahaha but will blow up once again, when she leaves him in a year or two 😂
Yes! Ariana is not smart.
That’s exactly what I was thinking ….
Ariana has the mindset of thank you next. So she just takes whatever she wants and says the boy is mine. Lily on the other hand is a high value woman. She will get a man a million times better. Ariana and Ethan deserve each other. There at the same level.
The article was absolutely sad, angering and empowering, I couldn't imaging having to go through something so public. She deserves all the happiness in the future and has so much strength
My experience watching Wicked was ruined every time Ethan came on screen, I am so disgusted by that man, he is horrible inside and out, I wish him the worst.
Don't forget Ariana,
Let's not wish ill on people. ✨💁🏼♀️
Its their choice @@libertymartin5167
Lilly Jay is such a queen. So strong. Hope she gets the happiness she deserves
he is the epitome of “when you give ugly guys a chance” don’t care if you call me rude but he’s not conventionally handsome
honestly him being ugly isn't the problem. sure, she probably knew it gave him poor self confidence and made him easier to manipulate. but plenty of ugly dudes have integrity, which he clearly doesn't.
I hate that Ariana is getting praised for her role, and lily jay is dealing with so much consequences from Ariana’s horrible actions. The hard work she has done throughout her life to just be crushed by a selfish and greedy woman.
The world is SO unjust. Ariana never gets in trouble..
We’re rooting for you lily jay!
You lot really arn't. You just want to attack Ariana and don't care how bad that is for Lilly.
@@catkin-z8gNot at all. If none of her relationships overlapped then no one would be against her at all, except maybe for germophobes who don't want their donuts licked....
I hope Lilly remembers that essay when Ethan comes crawling back, and believe me, he eventually will. Once Ari finds another toy she will dump him like a hot potato. Hopefully, Lilly will tell him where to go and it’s not a nice place. I’ve still never gotten over Ariana’s behavior in the donut shop. She needs to ask her therapist for a refund, 15 years and she’s still acting like an idiot??!!!
Ethan being shocked by having commentary made on his current relationship with someone who has only ever had her relationships covered in media is some smooth brain logic. Dude, take some responsibility, the entire timeline of your current relationship is what people froth at the mouth over if covered by media. Get. Familiar. You. Did. This. "Oh no!!! It's the consequences of my actions!?!?!?"
I really HATE when ppl play dumb. I grew up with a sibling like this..
lily is so beautiful and modelesque and literally so intelligent oh ethan fumbled bad
"If you can't be a homemaker, be a home breaker." - Ariana
Most likely.
Lilly is leagues above Ethan.
My favorite defense from Ariana's fans was: "It's not good for the kids to stay in an unhappy marriage"
These minions should write childrens book or self help or life coaching 😂
Because a messy divorce with cheating is so much better for the kids. Just ask Ariana herself, she was crying on Zach Sang about how her parents' divorce affected her and messed up her relationship with her dad. Ironic that she would play a part in doing the same to another kid.
In reality having your parents together is best for children in all situations except for physical violence.
I’m incredibly ready to see the happiness and serenity she deserves come to Dr. Jay, she’s started the process with this powerful essay. Class, eloquence, and courage.
I believe AG was jealous of her intellect and poise, and wanted to break another woman down. Lily’s energy is big and purposeful, while Ariana’s light is weak and dependent.
Winner = Lily and child (no more Spongeburden)
Thanks for another great video!!❤
Exactly my thoughts! That weird 💩looking thing was extremely helaous and lilys intellect and education and beauty triggered her as always and 💩 wanted to break her relationship with that dumb🤢ass guy but 💩is still cheap and not classy well...💩 and🤢 found each other they're a perfect match
Every time I watched Ariana Grande on a talk show, I was always struck by her huge talent in singing and in doing impressions of others. When I started realizing what her track record was, I became less of an admirer. The relationship she had with Ethan Slater, and the circumstances surrounding it made me no longer admire her, and to dislike her. She is a snake trying to appear angelic. The promotion of "Wicked" with Cynthia Erivo, and the oddness surrounding their overly emotional presentation cemented my opinion.
Can’t imagine having a whole child with someone only for them to betray and leave you. D: don’t think I’d handle that well.
Happens all the time.
@@kidhfajuhiso it’s normal? So it’s ok? So it’s socially acceptable? So we should be quiet and not get upset for Lilly?
@@kidhfajuhi that’s the scary thing. I could never trust anyone enough.
@@Porcelynnn Lol chill I never said it was ok. I actually don't think it's any of our business. It's shady but I don't know Lilly so I'm not exactly upset for her.
@@kidhfajuhi have some compassion
What annoys me about this day and age is people are so quick to give up on relationships because of temporary unhappiness. Yes, maybe Lily and Ethan were drifting apart during her pregnancy, but they'd been together since high school and were supposed to be in a commited relationship. The fact he dumped her because he thought the grass was greener on the other side just makes you realise how weak minded he really is.
Lily is extremely intelligent, academically and emotionally. I feel so bad for what happened to her but think she deserves so much better than that. A man that'll just run at the first sign of trouble is not someone you want to spend the rest of your life with.
The way she says“Insatiable, frustration, inexplicable hellish feeling “ sounds like she has learned some new words from a dictionary and is excited to say it when she meets someone 😭
I love Ari's music but she's a very disappointing person. Her parents divorce must've traumatized her for life. Imo, she won't be in a healthy and committed relationship until she gets over her daddy issues. I wonder if her father chose another woman over their family. If so, that would explain everything.
Edit: I'm not trying to paint her as a victim. It's just genuinely mind boggling to see someone who was as blessed and gifted and adored and naturally beautiful as her behave this way over and over again. My theory is that she wants to feel the same rush and satisfaction that her father's alleged mistress felt even if she's self-destructing in the process.
If its true it still doesnt make that weird thing a victim.
She's still an adult who makes her own decisions. Abuse or pasts can explain but not excuse. She ruined a child's life for a fling and knew what she was doing (as did spongbob)
I would feel sorry for her if her behavior didn't hurt other people. Her parents' divorce was very messy and clearly affected her a lot, plus who knows what kind of creeps she was exposed to on Nick, not to mention the bombing on her concert and Mac's death shortly after their break up, she has gone through a lot. She just seems like she has very low self-esteem and doesn't really know who she is, even her constant shift in her appearance and persona shows that. Hopefully one day she will heal and truly find herself. It's sad to see such a talented woman relegate herself to being a side chick.
@@Fee___ I wasn't trying to make her out to be a victim. I just wanted to share my theory as to why someone who was born rich, has so much talent and was so naturally beautiful could turn out to be such a reprehensible person. It's genuinely mind boggling to see someone who had it all and was so adored move like this.
Who cares! She's 30+ years old, time to be accountable and act like a woman for once
Lily has so much class and sophistication
Lily Jay deserves a better man. And she will find one.
At this point does she even need a man? She might be ready to choose the bear.
I don’t like being the person to comment on physical appearance but given the circumstances I will. Lilly Jay looks beautiful and natural, Ariana look sick and fake.
😂😂😂😂 yes.
Reading her essay made me want to be her patient. I'm a doctor and can relate to the fear of public visibility and online footprint, which in some cases, can be career-ending. When you worked your entire life to get to where you are, invested countless of hours of studying and sacrificed so much of your personal life for your career, it becomes an integral part of your identity. And for it to be endangered by the malicious actions of your SO is horrendous. And that's only on top of your SO leaving you for another person while you're going through postpartum with your first child after possibly fatal pregnancy complications. She's a star.
Isolating members is one of the characteristics of a cult.
Would you consider doing an analysis as to why she switches races, voices and personalities every few years? We would love the tea!
Both Ariana and Ethan totally deserve each other and all the backlash. Ariana’s gonna get lifetime hate for this, and Ethan’s gonna end up single, never getting his wife’s trust or love back. He’s just a fling for Ariana-something exciting until she gets bored. And for Ethan, Ariana’s just a short-term symbol of success that won’t last
Ariana’s fans worship her too much for her to get longtime hate. Unfortunately…
Literally the best as always girl I feel like we're besties spilling the tea! ❤️🥹🫶🏻
You’re the sweetest ever! And we are besties 🥹❤️❤️❤️ I always look forward to your comments and I hope you enjoyed the video!
If your husband is willing to leave you for another woman you should be happy he's gone...
That's A LOT easier said than done .
@@maraiakereibr3059 yeah but clearly he wasn't happy in his relationship, should people stay together no matter what?
@@Lakishiano but there is a classy way to go about leaving a partner who just gave birth to your baby.
@Lakishia if you're unhappy in a relationship, then you end it like an adult. You don't cheat and betray your partner of many years just because you're unhappy. No one's saying you have to stay in an unhappy relationship forever, it's the cheating that's wrong
@@manisha.n86 he divorced her, he did let her know.
Laura Jay you are a remarkable woman! I do not think your career will suffer at all. The letter you wrote was human, heartfelt and respectable ,despite the pain you are suffering. I can’t imagine having my the experiences of my life blasted in the public eye. Please please NEVER take him back if he ever realizes what he has lost. One thing for sure your son will grow up one day and see what a great mom you are and come to understand what had happened and how graceful and respectfully you handled it because you were looking out for your son.never forget what a truly amazing woman you are!love to you and your son and I feel you have a very happy future ahead of you❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This is my second comment. I was just thinking...what if all of this weird relationship with her Wicked co star was a PR movement to make her be seen like..."a girls' girl"?
They got hundreds of tattoos together, are seen crying together, saying how much they mean to each other and shit...
makes absolute sense
Honestly, Lily Jay is very pretty
I feel for lily its very clear they cheated when he ethan did stop or ask lily j not to come to be with him . However then filing for divorce a couple months later. So when he finally had to be a father and husband he ran for the hills. Not lily fault at all he is simply a weak and selfish person reminds me of the person he is with now. I wish lily j and her son the very best and may you find another who will make you relize how much you deserved a real love.
She’s absolutely gorgeous and intelligent she deserves so much more.❤
If they were innocent, they’d have proved it because it’s such a huge public scandal and could’ve/ might’ve permanently ruined their careers/ legacies. But all they say is ‘the media misconstrues everything and misunderstands people I love and I cant explain how much it hurts’…. What are you talking about?! They sound so guilty
exactly!
Never thought spongebob was really foolish in real life😂😂
His brain is a sponge 🧽
Even the real SpongeBob was smart in certain episodes..
I believe they are going to stay together until Wicked 2, then a couple of months later, Ariana will seek another man, and the cycle will repeat lol. From your posts, I remember that you mention that Ariana will seek something specific from every man she is with, with Pete being lightness and Dalton being anonymity; in your opinion, what does she want from Ethan?
Ethan brings her back to her roots on Broadway and probably reminds her of a simpler time before she was mega famous. She has even said she plans on taking more acting roles, it seems like that's her new personality
Her next boyfriend going to be a actor
Probably true, the second she switches characters she’ll drop him too
Lily jay is so beautiful, a wild and untamed beauty. I really wish her the best, my heart breaks for her.
I’m so disgusted by Ariana and SpongeBob. May they never have peace.
Having the same therapist for 15 years is a red fucking flag. Something is not working
people can develop feelings for someone while being in a relationship but its the way they were so disrespectful to lily that is so disgusting, girl was going through a hard time and they couldn't wait a few months to start showing people their perfect romance, and im not talking about having to hide but in Hollywood everyone dates people and the public never finds out. Do what makes you happy but dont forget you can be hurting people in the way
Well said!
I agree. If you fall in love, you fall in love. But I don’t believe they fell in love because they seem very interested in rubbing it in Lily’s face. Esp w/ Ariana reposting her “I stole your man” song the same day Lily’s essay came out. She likes that Lily is hurting. Ariana is a bad person.
@@The7MISSFITS That’s why they say with power comes responsibility. ALL of our true colors would be exposed if we had the power/influence Ariana does. Some of us would pass while others would fail..
As soon as the wicked movies wrap up, she’ll dump him. She can’t dump him now because that would take away from her precious moment of working on her dream role.
Notice how Whenever Ariana falls for somebody, she makes it everyone’s business. Posting nauseating phrases and pictures of her and her lover. This time around, she didn’t do this with SpongeBob. And it’s very obvious it’s because it’s a tainted relationship. But she can’t dump him. not yet. not until her precious movies are over.
Ironic you say she makes it everyone’s business. Yet her psycho stans say “it’s no one’s business “..
Lilly is taller than Ethan, SpongeBob must have felt insecure. Lilly is a highly educated woman who is in healthcare.
The most disgusting incident in this situation is that their "Wicked" co-stars in a podcast said, "infidelity needs a more nuanced conversation". Like 🙄. These people are truly wicked.
There's NO "nuance" needed about cheating. It is a choice made to hurt your partner/spouse.
OK OK OK, I had no IDEA, she nearly died in childbirth that’s just makes this whole situation, even more SICK and devastating. How can Ariana do this and how could anyone dare defend her for it?
God I can’t even listen to her music anymore…
I lived through a similar situation, some men aren't strong enough to handle parenthood and supporting a new mother. Weak men cheat, weak men leave marriages because it's easy, staying and supporting the baby you made and keeping your promises to care for your wife takes strength and honour. Ariana can keep her weak man and I hope she gets what she deserves
PREACH
"I've been with that therapist for 15 years". O.k., and you're STILL doing what you do.
Home.
Wrecker.
The end.
Can't wait for you to cover this 🙌🏻
I hope you enjoyed it! 🥹
It seems like Ethan is the new Pete Davidson; Ariana dates down/someone not in her league who will worship her, exciting at first but eventually regrettable & impermanent, and she’ll move on. I’m observing how different she is from Taylor Swift, for instance. Note how different their songs describe exes; Ariana acts like she’s fine, she’s over it, thank you next- because she IS fine…Whereas Taylor dates “up” or at her level. She wears her heart on her sleeve, dissecting every moment, trying to grapple with extricating herself from a deep well of emotion for someone who’s become a stranger. It’s soul crushing when your plans go awry. I don’t think Ariana is that deep- she’s light & fluffy. She truly keeps it moving and perhaps surface level. Not saying either is right or wrong, it just is.
nice observation!
I hope Lilly gets her happy ending. Her Taylor Swift Begin Again Moment you know? She’s gorgeous,smart and kind she can do WAAAAAAAY better.
I hate how everyone seems to have forgotten everything she did because of that movie 😭
Agree..
I was talking about this with my friend yesterday about the kind of person you have to be to be with your highschool sweetheart you have known nearly half your life or more and leave her right during the time she needs you the most after birthing your first child while dealing with postpartum when your husband needs to be there to strengthen his wife and be there for his child. Humans are not meant to be alone especially in the family unit. WHat he did was selfish as hell. And he did it being blinded by her manipulation of her light around her fame and his dreams. Try an tell me different.. I believe it 100%. To then destroy something I believe in as sacred as she probably did too and then file legal action against her. That's even darker to me guys. That reads as Ari saying, if you expose what we did I'll take what little you were able to walk away with.
No ones mad you fell in love. Its the circumstances in which you did it because you've gotten everything you want in life and believe it belongs to you without any consequences. Without a care for anyone but your own wants and needs. Especially given the stakes. I wonder after if after the thrill of taking him away and getting what she wanted if the spark has died already because to me her actions and words feel forced. something doesn't seem genuine.
Anyways I am someone who always believed in love from such a young age and it has become a sad joke these days. Something unattainable, a dream merely. And this to me is almost unforgivable. However I do believe in forgiveness and redemption as people can grow and change if they WANT to. And I also believe in karma and consequences. Gosh I just think about Lillie's pain as she can only sit and wait until her own emotional storm passes because there's nothing left to do at that point. SO sad man.
This was so well said!
@PearlSalinas thank you 😊
This story makes me so angry. Especially knowing Ariana and Ethan won't receive much or any consequences while Lily has to mourn her divorce, be a single mother, and deal with the impacts on her career. I'm rooting for her. She's a beautiful, smart and classy woman, so I have no doubt she will come out of this even better. I'm so sick of Hollyweird. These people get away with anything because society worships and adores them. And for what??
Its not gonna last.
I hope it doesn't 😊
He was just supposed to be her work boo, it was never supposed to go further than that. But she just had to show yet another woman that she has the power to make him leave. I think she likes doing it, because this isn't the first or even the second time. She's known for doing this.
@@Ms9mmBeretta it's definitely an ego boost for her
@@Ms9mmBeretta men leave. She doesn't have magical power. No one is to blame for mens bad behavior except for the men behaving badly.
Literally an example of a workplace romance 😂
The fact that the public cant admire and embrace lily jay’s intellect, grace, and class the way they do with Ariana’s popularity, beauty, and talent shows us how shallow we really are.
Ariana looked better before messing with her face..