Matt, thank you for showing this lock & all it's features! I've been designing commercial security systems for nearly 2 decades & have always been disappointed when looking for a truly secure smart-lock for my own home. You just made my week with this!
FINALLY! I'm Florida and I've seen so many houses with multipoint locks (They're good for sealing a door during hurricanes) and I've always been confused by why they don't work like normal locks, especially since they're using very similar locking hardware. AND NOW WE FINALLY HAVE ONE THAT DOES. All I need them to do is design one that goes fully around the edge of the door and I am sold 100%
I was very interested when you showed this before. Glad you gave it a spot. Level lock is a invisible version of the smart locks. I hate the bulky boxes.
@@anyfoolknowthat i dont have much problem with latency. Often just takes a second more than pulling out my keys (empty arms). I noticed as battery gets lower it gets buggy. I would prefer a full rfid only version. The battery lasts about a year.
I recently bought a sliding patio door from Menards and I chose a burglar resistant version. The millwork guys said that the company brought in a sample and let them hit it with bricks, bats, and crowbars and none of them broke through the glass. The sell windows too. That's what I'm putting in my next house.
I want those at my house. Seriously, i've wanted to have a new door since i bought this place but really wanted something that seals better and has more security. This is perfect.
I wish Endura would list certified OEM's on their site. Looks like a great solution but to force the builder to hunt around for someone who has experience adding this system in is a time waster.
had to comment. selling doors and hardware to contractors since 97. 1. multipoint locks are used by door manufacturers because they help prevent warp related replacement claims, and here in Florida they have to pass testing for water penetration, and a multipoint lock is better than a deadbolt and lever for that. They aren't necessarily stronger than a deadbolt or mortise lock on an outswing door, and get hung up and bound locked/unlocked far more easily than a latch and deadbolt. 2. We use pallets of Endura's thresholds every week, but the Endura rep won't even say the word "trilennium" to us, which was Endura's last multipoint lock which quickly became as popular as Ford Edsels and New Coke. Can only estimate spending at least 50 hours troubleshooting those locks, and I hardly saw any of them compared to Hoppe and G-U. 3. The bad news on all of these new electronic locks is that the electronics never have more than a 2 year warranty(often 1 yr), and the word "electronic" adds $200-400 to the price. They don't sell the boards separately, so you are buying an entire lock when you know all you need is the electronics. When I tell people that, it's like I just killed Santa Claus. And Schlage, Emtek, Kwikset, Baldwin et al don't include weatherstrip/gaskets with their locks, which would be a good idea on an exterior door with electronics inside. Check with your local door company, they can tell you about the call backs more than the company showroom display. And ask about the electronic warranty before you buy anything. Most people are stretching to pay for an electronic lock, but they don't plan on shelling out $400 every two years.
I should say, this is purely just his voice, which sounds a lot like Noho Hank. He seems like a lovely guy, and this video (like all of Matt’s) is really cool and spotlights such a great product.
Hi Matt, all you need to get into that and any modern lock is a hammer and screwdriver, you put the screwdriver into the lock hole and hit it with the hammer nonce and turn the screwdriver
Good ideas and impressive. But as long as it's plastic like that, no deal. There should be a 100% brass option like any other door hardware and that includes the battery cover.
They need to work with all USA door mfgs to make this standard. Much closer to REAL expensive Passive Haus-rated doors in performance than now available.
Most burglees wont care to gently pick a lock. They will try and break the door open (not hard) the. Go for the window. This will def slow them down. If they are picking your lock.. What are you hiding? Lol
I recently found a multipoint lock door with 18 points of contact at home depot. The door felt rock solid and operated just like a normal door, only difference: many key turns to close the door.
Regardless if the door is steel or wood. It’s being replaced with a steel locking channel which makes up for 70% of the router. When a door is kicked in 99% of the time the jam fails. Very rarely does the door fail unless it’s solid wood Now the 3 points of contact will make it harder to break in, basically a man kicking the door won’t be able to get in as if it was a standard lock.
It’s nice to see Endura has continued engineering the W&F multipoint. They were always better than the Hoppe that THERMA TRU sold. Hopefully this newer design is even better.
We will have to agree to disagree. I service and install any brand MPL but I have more problems with Endura than any other brand. Don't get me started that Endura's inch wide groove that makes replacement of any other brand require filling the groove with wood and starting over. Bah. Didn't Weiser teach us anything? Make mine Hoppe any day over W&F. I predict this auto lock will have longevity issues but would love to be wrong.
Oh crud. That bluetooth thing is almost certainly vulnerable to repeater attacks. Basically someone outside puts a high gain antenna pointing at your phone and relays whatever it sends to a low gain antenna outside the door and vice versa. From the door's POV your phone is outside the door even though it is actually on your nightstand. This could be mitigated by the lock requiring interaction with the phone (at least some of the time, such as when you are usually asleep or at work). But having those fins activated electronically does open up some great possibilities. For example the system could activate the fins when the door closes (but is not locked). In this mode they would retract when the entey set is operated. This would reduce a lot of air leakage on doors that are frequently accessed. It would also help on interior doors where sound transmission matters. This might open up the market to putting this on bedroom doors (without a deadbolt)!
The fake air attacker used as a test to prove that the door design is robust enough to cope with an external impact.... might be a non-representative test because involves safety. Ideally should be done with the same device used by Police using the same procedure. Then, in my view, the test is representative. Just a comment in here.
The lock mechanism is good. The electronics, not so much. Bluetooth is notably insecure. The electronic lock is a convenience, not a safety system. However, given how easy locks are to pick (Watch the Lock Picking Lawyer for example), I suspose it is all about the same.
You’re more likely to win the lottery than be burglarized by someone picking your front door lock. You’re more likely to jump and land on the moon than by someone gaining access by exploiting Bluetooth security flaws.
@@FlipnKraut Statistically you are absolutely correct, but that doesn't mean we should only secure our doors with elastic bands because "how many times do strangers walk up and just test that your door is latched". If security is your focus, then you aren't going to go for an electronic lock - but you also aren't going to have any windows without bars.
Internals made of plastic... I had one of the Larson security glass storm doors on our last house, which housed a metal version of the same mechanism. Lasted three years. No thanks, especially at the price-be happy that you are getting them for free Matt.
After the company stops supporting the software in 5-10 years you'll have a hacked computer in your door with access to your home network if you got that bridge. Anything connected to your home through the internet needs constant security patching or it's a liability, whether it's beautifully hidden in your door or not. The lifecycle for all this new "smart tech" is way too short for homes. Anything put into a home needs a lifecycle of decades not years like most of that stuff is today.
@@creepingcharly 100% agree. Every company wants to make apps call it starting with an "i" or ending with a "+". A lot of things are good "dumb" no one asked to make them smart.
I'm all for security, but thieves take the easiest way. If the door looks too hard, it's a pin prick to a window and they are in and out within 1 minute with anything worthwhile.
I think this is awesome, another question I have is some states require that you install a Deadbolt that only shows on the inside if you want to rent out the home at a later date. Does this product allow that to happen?
This is impressive. As an engineer that is fairly tech savvy I find smart home devices neat but not really that impressive. They seem to be a logical progression of technology. This door system is truly impressive set up. I will be looking into getting one of these on my house.
It looks like a better evolution of a deadbolt but it does look a little cheaply made. I'm not trying to be a jerk but those plastic housings and the latches look like some white metal like zinc and those coiled battery springs just look like it could be more robust. I could be totally wrong but that's how it looks in HD on my screen.
Interesting premise, but I want to know if this is HomeKit enabled and what level of software security testing has been done on the software. Having a way to use the battery pack as a power backup but also running a power line to and through the door hinge would be great in the event of a power failure. The fact that they didn't show off the app or whether it uses HomeKit to enhance privacy and security concerns me. I'd also like to know if this supports any higher end locks that are harder to pick, etc.
The battery pack powers the Bluetooth module so that it can detect the presence of your phone so it can unlock the door automatically. I am sure that the app on your phone is notified of the battery level every time you get close to the door. Those batteries can last for six months or a year depending on how often you open the door. I have a similar bulky keypad on my door so I have a good idea of what goes on there. Now if those batteries die on you then you simply use your key to open the door. Which reminds me. I’ll have to double check that my key opens my door because I actually haven’t used it for about two years now. I’ve just been using the keypad with the same batteries and I’m still at 57%. Now as far as the deadbolt and lock itself goes you can put anything in there you want that is standard hardware. So instead of a $40 Deadbolt put in a $200 Deadbolt with a fancy pick resistant core and fancy keys. I have no idea about the HomeKit stuff.
The whole point of this is that you can get higher security locks. This is designed for you to use any trim, as he stated towards the end. This is a good idea for brute force entry.
Agreed about HomeKit and cybersecurity. Cybersecurity is likely a weak point of this system. I’m guessing Endura hasn’t got a lot of expertise in that area, and they probably sub out the electronics. Even good lock companies (e.g., Allegion/Schlage) struggle with this. It’d be good to know more about the tech specs on the product, including Endura’s commitment to ongoing software maintenance, etc.
Matt, do you know any good door carpenters in the DFW area to recommend? I really want pano lock, and it’s been a struggle to find someone who will order the door through bmc.
seems like the US is a bit behind the EU on this one, we've had a hormann front door for years, that has all the fingerprint/keypad and app functionalities they talked about, ofcourse also a "normal" key opening but using a special type key. its closes with the standard lock bolt, 3 hooks (like their butterfly) and 3 steel pin's. (on the automatic doors, if you only want a key there's actually more hooks and pins) 100mm thick (~4inch) steel frame with insulating foam, triple pane safety glass, triple weather sealing and a build-in drop down seal when the door closes... and though not cheap its actually not crazy expensive starting at 3K (ex install)... hell even the door on my fathers house is 30years old and has a 5-point lock
I custom install/repair multipoint locks and have not been impressed with Endura products longevity hitherto. They fail enough I keep their parts in my service van.
@@JoeTaber Hoppe and GU are decent brands I use. I am not in love with any of them as none are great but Endura is the only brand for which I keep a replacement gearbox chassis and parts in my van.
@@MadLadsAnonymous I have read about the Yale Conexis and the Ultion which are smart locks but have not worked with them. I don’t know of any digital multipoint locks yet but I spend most of my time servicing existing locks so I’m not involved in direct sales
@@skygh Thanks. I'm looking at KFV multipoint locks but would also like multipoint along the jamb side and bottom rail. Not sure where to find that hardware.
What is the R value of that door? And why are you not aiming for high efficiency doors with 2 or 3 or even 4 inches of polyiso foam sandwiched in the middle to make them ultra warm?
Sorry maybe I missed it but does this work with WiFi and Bluetooth while using a phone and will it work in a power outage? Also is it a slower opening and closing procedure? As in when you unlock it do you have to wait a second or two for it to unlock and pull back those locking blades? Is this product available outside the USA? I’m in Canada.
That's because when a burglar uses a bump key, there is no evidence of it, unless it's caught on video or a witness. Otherwise, those bump key breaches don't get listed in the law enforcement statistics as a lock pick. As such, lock manipulation entry has to account for a much higher percentage. They catch a lot of criminals with bump key sets, two types will get you into +90% of homes. Schlage and Kwickset or locks using their same keyways are "protecting" nearly every residential door in the US.
@@mistere5857 I went with Bowley locks and have been very happy with them after a couple years. They are a great bang for your buck secure lock. You can go with Abloy or Medeco too but they are much more expensive.
Bluetooth-based systems are often vulnerable to replay attacks (record when you unlock, replay the code to unlock when you've left) or extension attacks (stand next to you at the grocery store and route the bluetooth signal from your phone over the cell network, essentially "extending" the bluetooth range to any distance). It's possible to eliminate the replay attack with a good design for generating codes, but bluetooth doesn't really offer high precision timing information needed to mitigate the extension attack. Is this something they consider? The Apple Watch can unlock Macbooks by proximity, but the system ensures the watch is within a few feet of the laptop by only unlocking if the response signal returned within a couple *nanoseconds, which is the time it takes for light to traverse from the laptop to the watch and back* (plus a time-optimized response circuit). Any extension attack cannot break the speed of light so it won't work.
@@tcoradeschi Like what? One has to go by what is presented. I really hate presumptions comments like these where on presume something in favour of their beliefs, and not what they don’t want to believe in. Regardless of how it’s hung: the locks on the side of the hinges are missing.
@@Justusson I guess what you're missing is that the company in question doesn't make doors. They make door hardware, in this case, specifically, the latch system. The video and the hardware in it reflects that reality. I'm not sure what your comment about what I "don't want to believe in" is intended to reflect. But it's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it.
@@tcoradeschi Still. I’m missing the locks on the other side of the door. If you have weak or visible hinges there, 100 locks wouldn’t be enough on one side.
So you'd want the hinges on the exterior of your house? You obviously don't know much about residential construction, public buildings are typically required to have doors that open to the exterior.
@@jefferystensland1304 I know every exterior door here opens outward. I did a quick googling about outward opening doors, here's what came up: "Many believe that doors which open outwards are safer as it allows for easier escape access. Anyone caught up in an emergency or fire, rushing to get away, would naturally push a door rather than pull it. During a church service in Finland in the 19th century, a false fire alert left dozens of people dead. They became crushed in the chaos as they fled for the exit doors and struggled to open them. It led to new laws and the introduction of outward opening doors." "Where you’re restricted on size, it’s natural to want to make your home feel quite roomy and outward opening doors go some way to achieve this by not causing any internal obstruction." "Doors which open outwards help to reduce the amount of water and snow entering the property, minimising any damage." "Heavy objects picked up by a hurricane and travelling at speed in strong winds have less chance of smashing through outward opening doors."
@@TheRealFOSFOR I'd agree that all makes sense I'm just saying a typical residential door open inward due to the hinges being accessible if they open outward and the latch assembly is also exposed which makes it easily manipulated with a sharp thin object ( point of a knife) if the deadbolt isn't engaged. I suppose with the proper door and hardware you prevent those issues.
@@jefferystensland1304 I'm sure the visible hinges aren't a big issue. Its not like they got a loose pin you can just poke out. And I think the deadbolt is the only way we lock doors here. I can't see any reason to use any other kind of locking mechanism.
I wanted to watch this but Matt kept interrupting the expert instead of letting him explain the features of the latches and locks. I've seen enough just 3:18 into this video. Let the guy do his job!!
This is Matt Risinger advertisement for PanoLock system. It is NOT compatible with most smartlocks. It does not use your lock manufacture hardware. The lock part is really in the middle between deadbolt and the nob. Special trim kits are white plastics (the reason for this door). U can buy this from ABP. This multipoint system has issues, it uses fiberglass reinforced gears. These gears are failing quite frequently (rumors). Unlike Nest & Yale hardware the smart hardware can not be externally powered, nor has digital keyboard. These locks are easy to open. Bluetooth is unreliable [2 year warranty] and can not be replaced without replacing the entire lock. Be aware there are issues with this system and all MultiPoint's, but if you have 8' door they do help to avoid warping. Alternatively you can rout a steel plate.
I much rather prefer to install a foyer entrance space room with an all metal security bar door to act as a buffer initial entrance door then just a regular insulated secondary entry steel door into the home. Anyway this all begs question how secure or small proof are your windows? Are they 1inch thick plexiglas or laminated glass theft deterrent? With enough funds I guess most anything is possible
The firmware is their own in house garbage right? I'm not seeing a contractor's name who knows what they're doing. I'm seeing a door manufacturer jumping on a buzzword combining cool hardware with hot garbage a teenager is going to hack by next defcon
@@markm0000 That doesn't help at all. I'm saying the quality of the software on most of these products is really low. Prove me wrong and reply with a link to some code manufacturer or matt
@@Fallen7Pie Dude I don’t know. It’s definitely not safe but if it’s pushed away on a separate subnet and only given port 80 then there’s nothing to really worry about. If the lock app gets hacked and doesn’t work you still have a key.
@@markm0000 I wasn't really thinking remotely. I just assume in say a year or so there will be a flaw discovered in the firmware that will never get fixed in any installed products and from then on anyone with the right bluetooth software has a key to every unpatched door
Matt, thank you for showing this lock & all it's features! I've been designing commercial security systems for nearly 2 decades & have always been disappointed when looking for a truly secure smart-lock for my own home. You just made my week with this!
*Matt Risinger* Very nice, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. God Bless.
FINALLY! I'm Florida and I've seen so many houses with multipoint locks (They're good for sealing a door during hurricanes) and I've always been confused by why they don't work like normal locks, especially since they're using very similar locking hardware. AND NOW WE FINALLY HAVE ONE THAT DOES. All I need them to do is design one that goes fully around the edge of the door and I am sold 100%
"Perfectly installed a little bit out of plumb"! Sounds like every door I install.😀
I was very interested when you showed this before.
Glad you gave it a spot.
Level lock is a invisible version of the smart locks. I hate the bulky boxes.
Yep, that’s why I went with Level. Unfortunately it’s latency is too high, and they haven’t fine tuned automatic locking/unlocking
@@anyfoolknowthat i dont have much problem with latency. Often just takes a second more than pulling out my keys (empty arms). I noticed as battery gets lower it gets buggy.
I would prefer a full rfid only version.
The battery lasts about a year.
I recently bought a sliding patio door from Menards and I chose a burglar resistant version. The millwork guys said that the company brought in a sample and let them hit it with bricks, bats, and crowbars and none of them broke through the glass. The sell windows too. That's what I'm putting in my next house.
Love this. I'm a homeowner (on the verge of becoming a builder) and would love this for all of my swing doors.
Good job Matt we are just about to put new french doors and patio doors in our old ranch house.
Now I went these...
not available for individual purchase? how can i get one of those if i am looking to upgrade an existing door in my home?
I want those at my house. Seriously, i've wanted to have a new door since i bought this place but really wanted something that seals better and has more security. This is perfect.
I wish Endura would list certified OEM's on their site. Looks like a great solution but to force the builder to hunt around for someone who has experience adding this system in is a time waster.
I like this guy! “Let’s get going “!
I love to watch door installation
I have been thinking about this for 10 years. How we don't have 3 point locks on the active doors with standard hardware is beyond me - and now we do!
We do its called keyless deadbolts!
Cost.
Most people are cheap.
had to comment. selling doors and hardware to contractors since 97. 1. multipoint locks are used by door manufacturers because they help prevent warp related replacement claims, and here in Florida they have to pass testing for water penetration, and a multipoint lock is better than a deadbolt and lever for that. They aren't necessarily stronger than a deadbolt or mortise lock on an outswing door, and get hung up and bound locked/unlocked far more easily than a latch and deadbolt. 2. We use pallets of Endura's thresholds every week, but the Endura rep won't even say the word "trilennium" to us, which was Endura's last multipoint lock which quickly became as popular as Ford Edsels and New Coke. Can only estimate spending at least 50 hours troubleshooting those locks, and I hardly saw any of them compared to Hoppe and G-U. 3. The bad news on all of these new electronic locks is that the electronics never have more than a 2 year warranty(often 1 yr), and the word "electronic" adds $200-400 to the price. They don't sell the boards separately, so you are buying an entire lock when you know all you need is the electronics. When I tell people that, it's like I just killed Santa Claus. And Schlage, Emtek, Kwikset, Baldwin et al don't include weatherstrip/gaskets with their locks, which would be a good idea on an exterior door with electronics inside. Check with your local door company, they can tell you about the call backs more than the company showroom display. And ask about the electronic warranty before you buy anything. Most people are stretching to pay for an electronic lock, but they don't plan on shelling out $400 every two years.
Why is the so hard to find?
I’m so relieved that Noho Hank is OK.
I should say, this is purely just his voice, which sounds a lot like Noho Hank. He seems like a lovely guy, and this video (like all of Matt’s) is really cool and spotlights such a great product.
The Bolivians must be after him. Laying low on the door factory... Laundering money.
@@sranubus his hair piece is very convincing.
Hi Matt, all you need to get into that and any modern lock is a hammer and screwdriver, you put the screwdriver into the lock hole and hit it with the hammer nonce and turn the screwdriver
I just want the hardware. I know I can retrofit that in most old doors. Awesome system!
Good ideas and impressive. But as long as it's plastic like that, no deal. There should be a 100% brass option like any other door hardware and that includes the battery cover.
Plastic actually has a factor that literally evaporates over time. So I totally agree with you.
They need to work with all USA door mfgs to make this standard. Much closer to REAL expensive Passive Haus-rated doors in performance than now available.
Makes me wonder how long it would take the Lock Picking Lawyer to get in.
Probably about 10 seconds, and that's without touching the lock itself
Hinges are exposed 👏
In the time that it took you to write your comment, he's already in and showing you a second time that it wasn't a fluke.
Most burglees wont care to gently pick a lock. They will try and break the door open (not hard) the. Go for the window.
This will def slow them down.
If they are picking your lock.. What are you hiding? Lol
@JustAnotherTowerClimber
clearly.
Perhaps not worth the joke. Its not relevant
I recently found a multipoint lock door with 18 points of contact at home depot. The door felt rock solid and operated just like a normal door, only difference: many key turns to close the door.
Can you post a link?
@@24revealer it has actually only 16 points of contact.
@@timoteogarcia1581 I'm going to have to call BS on this one without a link.
@@timoteogarcia1581 put the description here so I can search it. Model # etc
@@24revealer you should find it as "puerta de seguridad Texas derecha"
This is really nice. I would have liked NFC tags instead of using my phone. They don’t need software updates or security patches.
Or when the company goes out of business you don't have to rely on an app that is not updated anymore.
@@MGXsport I think it’s easy to just tear apart the smart add on and replace its guts with a simple Arduino with a NFC reader.
So awesome...thanks for the video!
Doesnt routing out a door pocket of this increased size weaken the door to such a degree that it would just be easier to kick the door open?
Isn't that part of the door just normally filled with foam anyways on steel doors?
I considered that too, but he showed them doing the tests with the ram, so I say no.
@@creepingcharly Yes it is, unless its a solid wood door.
Regardless if the door is steel or wood. It’s being replaced with a steel locking channel which makes up for 70% of the router. When a door is kicked in 99% of the time the jam fails. Very rarely does the door fail unless it’s solid wood Now the 3 points of contact will make it harder to break in, basically a man kicking the door won’t be able to get in as if it was a standard lock.
You all would be surprised.
Most the time its easier to kick in the hinge side.
Because the hinge screws are so short.
Genius and slick
What’s the link to your video show casing that attic lift?
Can you do this on garage doors
Fridge door
It’s nice to see Endura has continued engineering the W&F multipoint. They were always better than the Hoppe that THERMA TRU sold. Hopefully this newer design is even better.
We will have to agree to disagree. I service and install any brand MPL but I have more problems with Endura than any other brand. Don't get me started that Endura's inch wide groove that makes replacement of any other brand require filling the groove with wood and starting over. Bah. Didn't Weiser teach us anything? Make mine Hoppe any day over W&F. I predict this auto lock will have longevity issues but would love to be wrong.
Oh crud. That bluetooth thing is almost certainly vulnerable to repeater attacks. Basically someone outside puts a high gain antenna pointing at your phone and relays whatever it sends to a low gain antenna outside the door and vice versa. From the door's POV your phone is outside the door even though it is actually on your nightstand. This could be mitigated by the lock requiring interaction with the phone (at least some of the time, such as when you are usually asleep or at work).
But having those fins activated electronically does open up some great possibilities. For example the system could activate the fins when the door closes (but is not locked). In this mode they would retract when the entey set is operated. This would reduce a lot of air leakage on doors that are frequently accessed. It would also help on interior doors where sound transmission matters. This might open up the market to putting this on bedroom doors (without a deadbolt)!
this is GREAT!!!
Any info for those of us looking to upgrade our security with sliding glass doors?
The fake air attacker used as a test to prove that the door design is robust enough to cope with an external impact.... might be a non-representative test because involves safety. Ideally should be done with the same device used by Police using the same procedure. Then, in my view, the test is representative. Just a comment in here.
The lock mechanism is good.
The electronics, not so much. Bluetooth is notably insecure. The electronic lock is a convenience, not a safety system.
However, given how easy locks are to pick (Watch the Lock Picking Lawyer for example), I suspose it is all about the same.
The guts are plastic so Im not convinced a second breach attempt wouldnt break the locking mechanism.
If someone really wants in, they will get in. Maybe through a window.
imagine cost when it breaks
You’re more likely to win the lottery than be burglarized by someone picking your front door lock. You’re more likely to jump and land on the moon than by someone gaining access by exploiting Bluetooth security flaws.
@@FlipnKraut Statistically you are absolutely correct, but that doesn't mean we should only secure our doors with elastic bands because "how many times do strangers walk up and just test that your door is latched". If security is your focus, then you aren't going to go for an electronic lock - but you also aren't going to have any windows without bars.
That is really really cool
Internals made of plastic... I had one of the Larson security glass storm doors on our last house, which housed a metal version of the same mechanism. Lasted three years. No thanks, especially at the price-be happy that you are getting them for free Matt.
Tell them to come to Canada !
Love your videos
Thanks!
Thank you, but no thank you. I have enough "smart" things in my life. Don't want to be switching batteries on anything.
But the beautiful thing is that it works fine with batteries and no one would be the wiser.
Get the one without. He shows two options.
The AA batteries in my Schlage YRD216 have lasted about two years now and I’m still at 57% but then I don’t use my door all that much.
After the company stops supporting the software in 5-10 years you'll have a hacked computer in your door with access to your home network if you got that bridge. Anything connected to your home through the internet needs constant security patching or it's a liability, whether it's beautifully hidden in your door or not.
The lifecycle for all this new "smart tech" is way too short for homes. Anything put into a home needs a lifecycle of decades not years like most of that stuff is today.
@@creepingcharly 100% agree. Every company wants to make apps call it starting with an "i" or ending with a "+". A lot of things are good "dumb" no one asked to make them smart.
That is something that is quite standard in Europe. But good to see it adapted to US locks
Is it Z-Wave compatible?
Great video! Any recommendation for other safety door and window brands to look into?
Deja vu - ish feelings watching this
I love this.
I'm all for security, but thieves take the easiest way. If the door looks too hard, it's a pin prick to a window and they are in and out within 1 minute with anything worthwhile.
You typed that out but yet, I have a feeling you still lock your car doors full well knowing a thief can still do a smash and grab.
@@audisportracer, You typed that all out even when you know it's obviously a good idea to lock any door.
Security film
@august and I'd take the most secure door lock I can get....
Very Cool!
fact check true for everyone should watch that video before deciding on the right kind of new door.
You know it will be a 10 min sales pitch, when it is complicated to lift the handle to lock your door.
I'd love that on my steel fire door!
I think this is awesome, another question I have is some states require that you install a Deadbolt that only shows on the inside if you want to rent out the home at a later date. Does this product allow that to happen?
Wow. That system, a Bowley lock and hinge security pins... that'd keep the thieves at bay.
Add some hinge pins, 6 inch screws and a pop up door barricade and they'll have to go hears Johnny to get thru the door
ABOUT TIME a company saw the need, can you buy a stock door ready to install or is it custom only
This is impressive. As an engineer that is fairly tech savvy I find smart home devices neat but not really that impressive. They seem to be a logical progression of technology. This door system is truly impressive set up. I will be looking into getting one of these on my house.
If you're into the internet of things, you should find out about Amazon Sidewalk before you jump in with both feet.
@@grizzlygrizzle Thanks, I'll have to check that out.
Does EntrySync support Matter so that I can operate it with the SmartHome tech of my choice?
It looks like a better evolution of a deadbolt but it does look a little cheaply made. I'm not trying to be a jerk but those plastic housings and the latches look like some white metal like zinc and those coiled battery springs just look like it could be more robust. I could be totally wrong but that's how it looks in HD on my screen.
I predict these will have short lives. Endura's designers are goofy frankly. Their Ultimate Astragal is an engineering nightmare.
great showcase... be cool if there were a link to the product.
Matt,,Endura Data Sheet(s) are where?
Really hard to find online info on Entry Sync or whatever you call it. Would be helpfull if you provide a link.
Interesting premise, but I want to know if this is HomeKit enabled and what level of software security testing has been done on the software. Having a way to use the battery pack as a power backup but also running a power line to and through the door hinge would be great in the event of a power failure. The fact that they didn't show off the app or whether it uses HomeKit to enhance privacy and security concerns me. I'd also like to know if this supports any higher end locks that are harder to pick, etc.
The battery pack powers the Bluetooth module so that it can detect the presence of your phone so it can unlock the door automatically. I am sure that the app on your phone is notified of the battery level every time you get close to the door. Those batteries can last for six months or a year depending on how often you open the door. I have a similar bulky keypad on my door so I have a good idea of what goes on there.
Now if those batteries die on you then you simply use your key to open the door. Which reminds me. I’ll have to double check that my key opens my door because I actually haven’t used it for about two years now. I’ve just been using the keypad with the same batteries and I’m still at 57%.
Now as far as the deadbolt and lock itself goes you can put anything in there you want that is standard hardware. So instead of a $40 Deadbolt put in a $200 Deadbolt with a fancy pick resistant core and fancy keys.
I have no idea about the HomeKit stuff.
The whole point of this is that you can get higher security locks. This is designed for you to use any trim, as he stated towards the end. This is a good idea for brute force entry.
I'd want it to be capable of hooking into HomeAssistant, with a BT radio it might not be too bad to do.
Agreed about HomeKit and cybersecurity. Cybersecurity is likely a weak point of this system. I’m guessing Endura hasn’t got a lot of expertise in that area, and they probably sub out the electronics. Even good lock companies (e.g., Allegion/Schlage) struggle with this. It’d be good to know more about the tech specs on the product, including Endura’s commitment to ongoing software maintenance, etc.
Matt, do you know any good door carpenters in the DFW area to recommend? I really want pano lock, and it’s been a struggle to find someone who will order the door through bmc.
Hhmm i am sticking to the old fashioned way just add keyless deadbolts!
What happens if the batteries die while the door is closed? Any way to open it then?
Can this be used on double metal doors?
seems like the US is a bit behind the EU on this one, we've had a hormann front door for years, that has all the fingerprint/keypad and app functionalities they talked about, ofcourse also a "normal" key opening but using a special type key. its closes with the standard lock bolt, 3 hooks (like their butterfly) and 3 steel pin's. (on the automatic doors, if you only want a key there's actually more hooks and pins) 100mm thick (~4inch) steel frame with insulating foam, triple pane safety glass, triple weather sealing and a build-in drop down seal when the door closes... and though not cheap its actually not crazy expensive starting at 3K (ex install)... hell even the door on my fathers house is 30years old and has a 5-point lock
I custom install/repair multipoint locks and have not been impressed with Endura products longevity hitherto. They fail enough I keep their parts in my service van.
What multipoint lock system would you recommend?
@@JoeTaber Hoppe and GU are decent brands I use. I am not in love with any of them as none are great but Endura is the only brand for which I keep a replacement gearbox chassis and parts in my van.
@@skyghDo either Hoppe or GU have a multipoint lock that works with a smart lock system?
@@MadLadsAnonymous I have read about the Yale Conexis and the Ultion which are smart locks but have not worked with them. I don’t know of any digital multipoint locks yet but I spend most of my time servicing existing locks so I’m not involved in direct sales
@@skygh Thanks. I'm looking at KFV multipoint locks but would also like multipoint along the jamb side and bottom rail. Not sure where to find that hardware.
How about electronic deadbolt compatible
Does Endura make any products for Dutch Doors?
Matt I just put a new door In my home that is 2-1/4” thick. This would be a great addition for the double seal, A3 rated door. How do I get this?
Matt, what door manufacture do you use/recommend for security doors?
This is how all the front door have been here in Europe for the past 30 years. You guys are just getting this now?!!
Very cool but a 5 or 6 pin core lock can still be picked in 30-60 seconds.
What is the R value of that door? And why are you not aiming for high efficiency doors with 2 or 3 or even 4 inches of polyiso foam sandwiched in the middle to make them ultra warm?
I live like 20 minutes from Endura!
There needs to be a retrofit kit, for existing doors that don't seal properly.
Sorry maybe I missed it but does this work with WiFi and Bluetooth while using a phone and will it work in a power outage?
Also is it a slower opening and closing procedure? As in when you unlock it do you have to wait a second or two for it to unlock and pull back those locking blades?
Is this product available outside the USA? I’m in Canada.
What about if the batteries die??
You've gotta wonder how many people will buy this system for security, only to install shitty, easy to pick locks 😂
Recommendations for "good" locks?
@@mistere5857 abloy, the best.
They are catering to the criminal element with the hope they wont get their door breached. Bah ah ah ahahahah
That's because when a burglar uses a bump key, there is no evidence of it, unless it's caught on video or a witness. Otherwise, those bump key breaches don't get listed in the law enforcement statistics as a lock pick. As such, lock manipulation entry has to account for a much higher percentage. They catch a lot of criminals with bump key sets, two types will get you into +90% of homes. Schlage and Kwickset or locks using their same keyways are "protecting" nearly every residential door in the US.
@@mistere5857 I went with Bowley locks and have been very happy with them after a couple years. They are a great bang for your buck secure lock. You can go with Abloy or Medeco too but they are much more expensive.
Cool & NICE
Bluetooth-based systems are often vulnerable to replay attacks (record when you unlock, replay the code to unlock when you've left) or extension attacks (stand next to you at the grocery store and route the bluetooth signal from your phone over the cell network, essentially "extending" the bluetooth range to any distance). It's possible to eliminate the replay attack with a good design for generating codes, but bluetooth doesn't really offer high precision timing information needed to mitigate the extension attack. Is this something they consider?
The Apple Watch can unlock Macbooks by proximity, but the system ensures the watch is within a few feet of the laptop by only unlocking if the response signal returned within a couple *nanoseconds, which is the time it takes for light to traverse from the laptop to the watch and back* (plus a time-optimized response circuit). Any extension attack cannot break the speed of light so it won't work.
What about sliding and bi-fold patio doors? Is there a recommended smart and/or keyless solution for those?
Excellant !
I’m not American, can someone tell me what a trim set is please?
Lockpicking Lawyer: 4 seconds to pick this lock
Very cool
Doors are fun!
"This is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and what I have for today is..."
@LockPickingLawyer
So put in an LPL/Bosnian bill recommended core in your deadbolt. Along with the keys
The hinges though, they are on the outside. There should be some locks there as well.
That’s not a real install, Chris. You would never hang a door that way on an actual residence.
@@tcoradeschi Like what?
One has to go by what is presented. I really hate presumptions comments like these where on presume something in favour of their beliefs, and not what they don’t want to believe in.
Regardless of how it’s hung: the locks on the side of the hinges are missing.
@@Justusson I guess what you're missing is that the company in question doesn't make doors. They make door hardware, in this case, specifically, the latch system. The video and the hardware in it reflects that reality.
I'm not sure what your comment about what I "don't want to believe in" is intended to reflect. But it's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it.
@@tcoradeschi Still. I’m missing the locks on the other side of the door. If you have weak or visible hinges there, 100 locks wouldn’t be enough on one side.
I'm mostly impressed about the door being mounted the right way around. Exterior doors should obviously open outward.
So you'd want the hinges on the exterior of your house? You obviously don't know much about residential construction, public buildings are typically required to have doors that open to the exterior.
@@jefferystensland1304 I know every exterior door here opens outward. I did a quick googling about outward opening doors, here's what came up:
"Many believe that doors which open outwards are safer as it allows for easier escape access. Anyone caught up in an emergency or fire, rushing to get away, would naturally push a door rather than pull it.
During a church service in Finland in the 19th century, a false fire alert left dozens of people dead. They became crushed in the chaos as they fled for the exit doors and struggled to open them. It led to new laws and the introduction of outward opening doors."
"Where you’re restricted on size, it’s natural to want to make your home feel quite roomy and outward opening doors go some way to achieve this by not causing any internal obstruction."
"Doors which open outwards help to reduce the amount of water and snow entering the property, minimising any damage."
"Heavy objects picked up by a hurricane and travelling at speed in strong winds have less chance of smashing through outward opening doors."
@@TheRealFOSFOR
I'd agree that all makes sense I'm just saying a typical residential door open inward due to the hinges being accessible if they open outward and the latch assembly is also exposed which makes it easily manipulated with a sharp thin object ( point of a knife) if the deadbolt isn't engaged. I suppose with the proper door and hardware you prevent those issues.
@@jefferystensland1304 I'm sure the visible hinges aren't a big issue. Its not like they got a loose pin you can just poke out. And I think the deadbolt is the only way we lock doors here. I can't see any reason to use any other kind of locking mechanism.
Cool door.
Looks good but the deadbolts look a little short. Might be vulnerable to frame spreader.
Can this work with Mul-T- Lock Knob/Deadbolt Set?
Not sure. Need the Endura guys to answer
@@buildshow Thank You. I will email them.
I wanted to watch this but Matt kept interrupting the expert instead of letting him explain the features of the latches and locks. I've seen enough just 3:18 into this video. Let the guy do his job!!
This is Matt Risinger advertisement for PanoLock system. It is NOT compatible with most smartlocks. It does not use your lock manufacture hardware. The lock part is really in the middle between deadbolt and the nob. Special trim kits are white plastics (the reason for this door). U can buy this from ABP. This multipoint system has issues, it uses fiberglass reinforced gears. These gears are failing quite frequently (rumors). Unlike Nest & Yale hardware the smart hardware can not be externally powered, nor has digital keyboard. These locks are easy to open. Bluetooth is unreliable [2 year warranty] and can not be replaced without replacing the entire lock. Be aware there are issues with this system and all MultiPoint's, but if you have 8' door they do help to avoid warping. Alternatively you can rout a steel plate.
You'd think routing that much material out of the door would make it extremely weak.
The weak points in a door are the contact points to the jambs.
I much rather prefer to install a foyer entrance space room with an all metal security bar door to act as a buffer initial entrance door then just a regular insulated secondary entry steel door into the home.
Anyway this all begs question how secure or small proof are your windows? Are they 1inch thick plexiglas or laminated glass theft deterrent? With enough funds I guess most anything is possible
Since the hardware can be selected separately, which keyless (maybe biometric or keypad) hardware is recommended?
Why not integrate a smart combo lock on it.
The firmware is their own in house garbage right? I'm not seeing a contractor's name who knows what they're doing. I'm seeing a door manufacturer jumping on a buzzword combining cool hardware with hot garbage a teenager is going to hack by next defcon
The kind of person installing this in their house also hired a IoT contractor to setup the rest of the house automation.
Def
@@markm0000 That doesn't help at all. I'm saying the quality of the software on most of these products is really low. Prove me wrong and reply with a link to some code manufacturer or matt
@@Fallen7Pie Dude I don’t know. It’s definitely not safe but if it’s pushed away on a separate subnet and only given port 80 then there’s nothing to really worry about. If the lock app gets hacked and doesn’t work you still have a key.
@@markm0000 I wasn't really thinking remotely. I just assume in say a year or so there will be a flaw discovered in the firmware that will never get fixed in any installed products and from then on anyone with the right bluetooth software has a key to every unpatched door
Anybody tried Dako doors? I am wondering about them.