The idea (of comparison) is good, but judging tanks or earlier years by todays' standard is misleading. The tanks should be judged by the time of release (e.g., 252u was broken, so was Scorpion G etc.).
You haven't played the GSOR 1008 enough, it has the highest premium pen of tier 8's and stabdard pen is incredible. It's got great speed and gun depression and decent turret armor. With 1200 damage in 6 seconds, it's a beast. Camo and vision are good to great.
Congrats on 1k subs and just subbed as well! I enjoyed the video and will be watching more of your content. Nice list and rankings. IMO, the only change I'd make I would be to move 2021 up to 4th and 2022 down to 5th. I love the GSOR1008. The only real down side to it is keeping a close eye on the battle to know when to reload and running a full gold loadout. As a TD main, that's not a big deal for me. Along with the Bourrasque, I feel like it was a nice 1-2 punch for your money.
ive done loot boxes every single year. maybe it was my year but, i purchased 160 boxes. 120k gold, all five premium high tier, 4 more toros, 2 57's, 2 extra auto cannons and an extra dzt-159. i not only got all skins but the ebr-105 skin i missed last year. shocking. ive done okin the past, but this year was nuts. for me, this was the best year economically. by a long shot
@@Weedle-PcGaming thx. It was a present from my wife. We opened the boxes together and we were just slack jawed at the drops. I bought her also 160....not even close!!! I felt bad. 😂. Not really. Lolol
I only buy £80-90 Loot boxes (the only spend all year) and the Gold I get has to last. These tanks are the main tanks I play with above tier 7 so The Scorpion G, Proggy, GSOR 1008 and Bourrasque are the only ones I still use the others have been sold. I miss out on quite a few tanks , but thats ok. Have not played the Toro and XM57 as yet. Congratulations on the 1K subs.
I think this is a pretty solid ranking all things considered! I personally feel like this year's loot box tanks are one of if not my favorite as a group. They're all interesting and or at least fun to play. I think I enjoy playing all these over the BZ in all honesty, well maybe except for the XM.
The only change I would do is push 2024 up to 5th and even consider 4th. I rate the 752 extremely high. It's my favorite T9 heavy and it performs amazing. The armor is amazing if you raise the gun as high as possible when not firing. The 3 shot magazine is a sweet spot, often you can trade 3 shells for 1 of theirs and hide to reload. Even in this fast meta with it's low DPM it does amazingly well. The gold rounds are great 310 APCR with pretty low speed, but you shouldn't be sniping in this tank.
@@Weedle-PcGaming I can fully understand this one. Especially if you don't rate the 752 high. It was the highlight for most people and if it was not your cup of tea you would rate the year overall lower.
What kind of stupid question is that. Its always been the same. I have seen no difference. The only real problem is the games does not needs new tanks it needs new maps. There are no maps in the loot boxes. Your years are off a year. Its still 2024. I would rather see more maps than more tanks.
@@Weedle-PcGaming Not just new but different and more maps. Different meaning not based on a corridor or a hill to climb. There are nearly 700 possible tanks in the game to play on the same 4-5 maps doing the "exact" same thing every game. I understand tanks make money but enough it enough. Reworks, Nerfs, buffs, weather effects and map events means nothing but rig the game. Designing maps that keep you directly in front of each other with no viable chance of flanking. Better MAPS, better GAMES, better GAME!
2018 got Type 59 and ScorpionG 2019 got Defender, ScorpionG compensation and 3xE25 compensation in gold. 2020 got only SU130 2021 got only GSOR1008 2022 got ALL except M-IV-Y 2023 got ALL except BZ 2024 got 752, GSOR1010, Type63, xm57 2025 we will see.. hope DZT
@@SoloWingGutman agree. I rarely play any of those. Type59 WAS good till 2018 or so. I have 200-300 games with 70% wr iirc. I haven't played it either for years... Xm66 great dpm for prem VIII
This year i got dzt, squall and xm with 80 Boxes. Im extremly happy with that since i goth both imo best tanks aswell as the most fun one with the squall.
Probably a fair list when you're looking at tanks alone, but back in the day people saw lootboxes mainly as a means to get gold, so you wanted to get lots of duplicates. Having things like type 59 or skorpion that people could already own going in, not to mention those early lootbox years had more mid tier filler tanks which were worth more gold, meant when you got those duplicates you raked in the gold. By 2020 or so WG started to lean into releasing brand new tanks just for the boxes and they also started including a lot more tier 2 and 3 filler which was worth overall less gold.
The boxes aren't just tanks. In the olden days if you bought enough boxes to get all the high tier tanks you'd also come our with 40,50 or 60K gold (from duplicate compensation) and a year of premium. The last few years that has not been the case nearly as much. One year I got one and a half years of premium and like 53K gold. The last year or two have not been that generous. I don't think I got duplicates at all this year except the low tier tanks.
Play style has a huge influence on how good a tank can be considered, I have quite a few tanks that are considered to be bad or average and yet my highest win rates are in those tanks. All you can do is look at the stats and judge by that but for individual players they should always consider how they play before going for the latest gimmick. As for this list, since we are looking at previous years then power creep has to be taken into account. Some great tanks back then are no longer even seen much now.
Nice relaxed video. I was upset about this year's lootbox tanks, but now I think they're not that bad. XM, Squall and DZT are good, Contra is OK. Toro is whatever but workable.
by gold value 2019 was the top of the top 2-3k gold each low tier tanks and i had alot.. gold way more then any year afther because it got reduced to half afther and now 500-800 g at the best for a low tier tank
got from my 50 boxes the bz176 and the char mle 75 , that was a nice christmas time. Still love the BZ its stupid op but so funny . btw. skoda t56 is nearly the same stupid op like the BZ and progetto 46 is the king of tier 8 mediums and still op after this time. So BZ haters let everyone have fun and dont blame the player blame game and you can choose to quit the game. Have a nice christmas in 2024 p.s. i agree with your list
Last year i got GSOR 1010 and i really did not want it. Still annoyed by it. 2025 there are no real top tier tanks, so for first time i'll pass the boxes :O
Honestly, I can't stand this game anymore, all these loot boxes every year with powercreep have killed the game (and many other things too). I've been playing since I was 11 in 2016 and I remember the satisfaction of finally reaching the op tanks in the tech tree. but that doesn't exist anymore, all you have to do is spend hundreds in gambling. I love this game so much and it could have become so much better...but wargaming chose another path, the decreasing number of players and the billions they make shows it
Congrats dude your ideas for videos are good.., i dont agree 2018 is lowest i mean all 4 tanks are playble and good in average tier VIII. battle i think worst year was 2024. and 2021. but i agree with first place..
I call these loot box tanks "Bottle rocket Panzers" Basically they launch make a huge "Buzz" explode then fade away. BZ is not OP, it's actually a huge piece of crap that is a 1 trick pony who's 1 trick only works 35% of the time. Easy to defeat when you understand how it works. I remember how obnoxious the type 59 was when first released and it's progressively gotten worse over the years. I would rather the loot boxes just had the normal stuff plus skins and other cosmetic stuff and not offer tanks that break the MM and cause even more game unbalancing nonsense. I only ever get boxes now as gifts from friends and I gift them back. I don't support this level of gambling.
you are commenting this on every video... i agree the BZ is not our lord and savior like most think it is, but it's still pretty broken among tier 8 heavies.
I think your take on years is good but I disagree with some tanks. For example, IS-3A, Tiger-Maus, Objekt 752 and especially Bisonte C45 are way stronger than you and most others suggest. I won't do an in depth talk about each of these as it would take too long, but I cannot stop myself from underlining how stupidly broken Bisonte actually is imo. You can't pen that mf when hull down even with most tier 10s and the tank is also fast af. Also, I would put 2020 over 2023 as in that year all tanks were insane and, honestly, I would much rather play with the 703 rather than the BZ-176 due to its consistency against upper tiers,being a really hard to pen tank with a really good gun overall. Moreover, after playing against this year's tanks, I believe that the DZT and the XM-57 are contenders for a top 5 tanks released during the Christmas events. The speed of the DZT and the armor and dpm of the XM-57 make these 2 tanks a menace and I bet people will start complaining about them soon, myself included. Finally, contrary to my initial assessment, the Contradictious is actually a pretty good tank. It feels like an AMX M4 54 at tier 8, but a bit better imho.
@Weedle-vr1hr Me. Its a great tank. Has armor if used correctly and has an amazing gun. Its hits mostly where you aim and hits hard. I was kinda surprised since i like more mobile heavy tanks. Like a Renegads/T110E5 (my highest dpg tank with 4,7k) Fun fact, i got the Tiger-Maus for free from the 1 free box for login in. 😂 I didn't buy any boxes that year.
Thx for this comparison. For me personally 2019 should be rated higher, cause I like playin lower Tiers. e25 and leFH are so much fun, KV 220 kinda. Gz to 1k!
Ill double what others said, your criteria is crap. This year is considered bad cause as you said only one of tanks is decent. 2019 (7th on your list) was one of the best. iS3-a at that time was more broken than defender( which was broken) and scorpion at those times was best moneymaking premium in the game. And whats more important since all of them were awsome/ broken, whatever you got made you happy. I got toro now and its not naking me happy... And as to is3-a nowdays, it still is really good, just need to play it right
Depends a little on if your viewpoint is more fun or more competitive, but I would agree 2023 was the best. It doesn't hurt that I got all 5 tanks in 75 boxes that year! Since I play more for fun, I would put 2022 higher (Caliban is loads of fun, and T-56 & 122TM I don't have and are NOT fun to play against). I would drop 2020 way down. I hated playing the E75 TS & Obj. 703 II so much, I traded them in. I cut down last year and this year on boxes, in part because I have plenty of tanks and in part because they didn't jump out at me as interesting. Last year I got no premiums, and this year I just got the Squall. High fun factor on that tank, but I doubt it will be anywhere as competitive as my Even 90 (which I traded in the Obj. 703 II to get!).
The idea (of comparison) is good, but judging tanks or earlier years by todays' standard is misleading. The tanks should be judged by the time of release (e.g., 252u was broken, so was Scorpion G etc.).
Don’t forget that this year doesn’t have any filler tanks, only new tanks which all other years had
Also im pretty sure i got bz176 aswell as skoda t56 out of the same lootboxes... wasnt the t56 a filler in 2023?
Imagine calling the obj 752 average lol, the performance stats don't lie and it's one of the best t9s in the game period.
You haven't played the GSOR 1008 enough, it has the highest premium pen of tier 8's and stabdard pen is incredible. It's got great speed and gun depression and decent turret armor. With 1200 damage in 6 seconds, it's a beast. Camo and vision are good to great.
6:08, we've had the UDES 03 3, T54D, and Object 590 as premium mediums as well. BTW congratulations on 1k subs, I'll still be here when you reach 10k
I completely forgot about those tanks.
He would be correct in saying the DZT is the first Holiday Ops T9 medium, though.
@darkwater1967 I thought he said first tier 9 premium medium. But yeah that would be correct
Woohoo! 1k dude! CONGRATS🎉 I love your channel. I learnt a ton from you.
Congrats on 1k subs and just subbed as well! I enjoyed the video and will be watching more of your content. Nice list and rankings. IMO, the only change I'd make I would be to move 2021 up to 4th and 2022 down to 5th. I love the GSOR1008. The only real down side to it is keeping a close eye on the battle to know when to reload and running a full gold loadout. As a TD main, that's not a big deal for me. Along with the Bourrasque, I feel like it was a nice 1-2 punch for your money.
ive done loot boxes every single year. maybe it was my year but, i purchased 160 boxes. 120k gold, all five premium high tier, 4 more toros, 2 57's, 2 extra auto cannons and an extra dzt-159. i not only got all skins but the ebr-105 skin i missed last year. shocking. ive done okin the past, but this year was nuts. for me, this was the best year economically. by a long shot
That's an insane drop rate. Congratulations!!!!
@@Weedle-PcGaming thx. It was a present from my wife. We opened the boxes together and we were just slack jawed at the drops. I bought her also 160....not even close!!! I felt bad. 😂. Not really. Lolol
I only buy £80-90 Loot boxes (the only spend all year) and the Gold I get has to last. These tanks are the main tanks I play with above tier 7 so The Scorpion G, Proggy, GSOR 1008 and Bourrasque are the only ones I still use the others have been sold. I miss out on quite a few tanks , but thats ok. Have not played the Toro and XM57 as yet. Congratulations on the 1K subs.
Heyho the DZT-159 ist not the first T9 Premium Tank, there is also the German T-54 Defense Version :)
Nice Video btw, Ill leave a sub!
Thanks, yea I forgot about 3-4 T9 meds haha.
@@Weedle-PcGaming oh haha i only remembered this one
I think this is a pretty solid ranking all things considered! I personally feel like this year's loot box tanks are one of if not my favorite as a group. They're all interesting and or at least fun to play. I think I enjoy playing all these over the BZ in all honesty, well maybe except for the XM.
Keep up the good videos coming. Love your content!
Can u do a comparission about prices every lootbox years? Cause i feel it go up every year and the lootbox pack went low too
that's a good question I know the prices were the same as last year.
The only change I would do is push 2024 up to 5th and even consider 4th. I rate the 752 extremely high. It's my favorite T9 heavy and it performs amazing. The armor is amazing if you raise the gun as high as possible when not firing. The 3 shot magazine is a sweet spot, often you can trade 3 shells for 1 of theirs and hide to reload. Even in this fast meta with it's low DPM it does amazingly well. The gold rounds are great 310 APCR with pretty low speed, but you shouldn't be sniping in this tank.
I wrestled a lot with where to put last year's tanks. There were some tough choices.
@@Weedle-PcGaming I can fully understand this one. Especially if you don't rate the 752 high. It was the highlight for most people and if it was not your cup of tea you would rate the year overall lower.
What kind of stupid question is that. Its always been the same. I have seen no difference. The only real problem is the games does not needs new tanks it needs new maps. There are no maps in the loot boxes. Your years are off a year. Its still 2024. I would rather see more maps than more tanks.
I'd like to see some new maps too.
@@Weedle-PcGaming Not just new but different and more maps. Different meaning not based on a corridor or a hill to climb. There are nearly 700 possible tanks in the game to play on the same 4-5 maps doing the "exact" same thing every game. I understand tanks make money but enough it enough. Reworks, Nerfs, buffs, weather effects and map events means nothing but rig the game. Designing maps that keep you directly in front of each other with no viable chance of flanking.
Better MAPS, better GAMES, better GAME!
2018 got Type 59 and ScorpionG
2019 got Defender, ScorpionG compensation and 3xE25 compensation in gold.
2020 got only SU130
2021 got only GSOR1008
2022 got ALL except M-IV-Y
2023 got ALL except BZ
2024 got 752, GSOR1010, Type63, xm57
2025 we will see.. hope DZT
good LUCK!!!
Gsor 1010 is really mid, type 63 is trash, and it was xm66, which was pretty good tbh
@@SoloWingGutman agree. I rarely play any of those. Type59 WAS good till 2018 or so. I have 200-300 games with 70% wr iirc. I haven't played it either for years... Xm66 great dpm for prem VIII
This year i got dzt, squall and xm with 80 Boxes. Im extremly happy with that since i goth both imo best tanks aswell as the most fun one with the squall.
@@euronymous85in my opinion type 59 is still great to this day. Its a decent t good medium tank that never has to face tier 10 games.
Youre welcome man (for subscribing). Your takes and videos are good, video ideas are good. Keep it up you are doing well.
752 is probably one of the best tier 9 tanks in the game in my opinion. other than that I would agree with you.
Probably a fair list when you're looking at tanks alone, but back in the day people saw lootboxes mainly as a means to get gold, so you wanted to get lots of duplicates. Having things like type 59 or skorpion that people could already own going in, not to mention those early lootbox years had more mid tier filler tanks which were worth more gold, meant when you got those duplicates you raked in the gold.
By 2020 or so WG started to lean into releasing brand new tanks just for the boxes and they also started including a lot more tier 2 and 3 filler which was worth overall less gold.
Great vid dude. Made me subscribe. Tho I love the GSOR 1008 your not wrong about that reload. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!!
The boxes aren't just tanks. In the olden days if you bought enough boxes to get all the high tier tanks you'd also come our with 40,50 or 60K gold (from duplicate compensation) and a year of premium.
The last few years that has not been the case nearly as much. One year I got one and a half years of premium and like 53K gold.
The last year or two have not been that generous. I don't think I got duplicates at all this year except the low tier tanks.
I’m the one who purchased 2023 200 euros in boxes and got everything expensive year but the best one!
I agree with others imo 2019 year is heavily underestimated.
Play style has a huge influence on how good a tank can be considered, I have quite a few tanks that are considered to be bad or average and yet my highest win rates are in those tanks. All you can do is look at the stats and judge by that but for individual players they should always consider how they play before going for the latest gimmick.
As for this list, since we are looking at previous years then power creep has to be taken into account. Some great tanks back then are no longer even seen much now.
You made a lot of good points.
I really enjoy the toro
Nice relaxed video. I was upset about this year's lootbox tanks, but now I think they're not that bad. XM, Squall and DZT are good, Contra is OK. Toro is whatever but workable.
you skipped first loot box event, i remeber it well because u could buy single boxers, my friend did,and got patton korea in it lol.
by gold value 2019 was the top of the top 2-3k gold each low tier tanks and i had alot.. gold way more then any year afther because it got reduced to half afther and now 500-800 g at the best for a low tier tank
got from my 50 boxes the bz176 and the char mle 75 , that was a nice christmas time. Still love the BZ its stupid op but so funny . btw. skoda t56 is nearly the same stupid op like the BZ and progetto 46 is the king of tier 8 mediums and still op after this time. So BZ haters let everyone have fun and dont blame the player blame game and you can choose to quit the game. Have a nice christmas in 2024
p.s. i agree with your list
Hi, great content. Just a little detail, the Torvagn should be Tornvagn. /Best regards Sweden
Last year i got GSOR 1010 and i really did not want it. Still annoyed by it. 2025 there are no real top tier tanks, so for first time i'll pass the boxes :O
DZT is absolutely disgusting
You really underestimate Tiger Maus. You called him average
Honestly, I can't stand this game anymore, all these loot boxes every year with powercreep have killed the game (and many other things too). I've been playing since I was 11 in 2016 and I remember the satisfaction of finally reaching the op tanks in the tech tree. but that doesn't exist anymore, all you have to do is spend hundreds in gambling. I love this game so much and it could have become so much better...but wargaming chose another path, the decreasing number of players and the billions they make shows it
The only fun in tech tree is tier IX's, 90% of tier VIII's and below are trash
Congrats dude your ideas for videos are good.., i dont agree 2018 is lowest i mean all 4 tanks are playble and good in average tier VIII. battle i think worst year was 2024. and 2021. but i agree with first place..
I call these loot box tanks "Bottle rocket Panzers" Basically they launch make a huge "Buzz" explode then fade away. BZ is not OP, it's actually a huge piece of crap that is a 1 trick pony who's 1 trick only works 35% of the time. Easy to defeat when you understand how it works. I remember how obnoxious the type 59 was when first released and it's progressively gotten worse over the years.
I would rather the loot boxes just had the normal stuff plus skins and other cosmetic stuff and not offer tanks that break the MM and cause even more game unbalancing nonsense. I only ever get boxes now as gifts from friends and I gift them back. I don't support this level of gambling.
What's the trick you use to defeat it? I would love to know
you are commenting this on every video... i agree the BZ is not our lord and savior like most think it is, but it's still pretty broken among tier 8 heavies.
I think your take on years is good but I disagree with some tanks. For example, IS-3A, Tiger-Maus, Objekt 752 and especially Bisonte C45 are way stronger than you and most others suggest. I won't do an in depth talk about each of these as it would take too long, but I cannot stop myself from underlining how stupidly broken Bisonte actually is imo. You can't pen that mf when hull down even with most tier 10s and the tank is also fast af. Also, I would put 2020 over 2023 as in that year all tanks were insane and, honestly, I would much rather play with the 703 rather than the BZ-176 due to its consistency against upper tiers,being a really hard to pen tank with a really good gun overall. Moreover, after playing against this year's tanks, I believe that the DZT and the XM-57 are contenders for a top 5 tanks released during the Christmas events. The speed of the DZT and the armor and dpm of the XM-57 make these 2 tanks a menace and I bet people will start complaining about them soon, myself included. Finally, contrary to my initial assessment, the Contradictious is actually a pretty good tank. It feels like an AMX M4 54 at tier 8, but a bit better imho.
2022
Tiger maus was my biggest disappointment. I hate this tank.
I don't know anyone who actually enjoys it.
That was the only tank I didn’t get from last year.
i'll trade my e77 for your tiger maus any day
@Weedle-vr1hr Me. Its a great tank. Has armor if used correctly and has an amazing gun. Its hits mostly where you aim and hits hard. I was kinda surprised since i like more mobile heavy tanks. Like a Renegads/T110E5 (my highest dpg tank with 4,7k)
Fun fact, i got the Tiger-Maus for free from the 1 free box for login in. 😂
I didn't buy any boxes that year.
@obi-wlankenobi that's awesome you got a tank out of the free box!!
2023 bz lol
Thx for this comparison. For me personally 2019 should be rated higher, cause I like playin lower Tiers. e25 and leFH are so much fun, KV 220 kinda. Gz to 1k!
Bruh, this year is the worst imo.
Ill double what others said, your criteria is crap. This year is considered bad cause as you said only one of tanks is decent. 2019 (7th on your list) was one of the best. iS3-a at that time was more broken than defender( which was broken) and scorpion at those times was best moneymaking premium in the game. And whats more important since all of them were awsome/ broken, whatever you got made you happy. I got toro now and its not naking me happy... And as to is3-a nowdays, it still is really good, just need to play it right
Those are all fair points. :)
Depends a little on if your viewpoint is more fun or more competitive, but I would agree 2023 was the best. It doesn't hurt that I got all 5 tanks in 75 boxes that year! Since I play more for fun, I would put 2022 higher (Caliban is loads of fun, and T-56 & 122TM I don't have and are NOT fun to play against). I would drop 2020 way down. I hated playing the E75 TS & Obj. 703 II so much, I traded them in. I cut down last year and this year on boxes, in part because I have plenty of tanks and in part because they didn't jump out at me as interesting. Last year I got no premiums, and this year I just got the Squall. High fun factor on that tank, but I doubt it will be anywhere as competitive as my Even 90 (which I traded in the Obj. 703 II to get!).
Lol, stupid decision ;)