I break down just about everything. But it's a piggy bank for me as I'm hoarding the more precious metals. GREAT VIDEO MY FRIEND!! This is a passionate subject for me. Peoples time/space play a HUGE factor in how an educated scrapper breaks down their metals. What works for one, may not work for another. :)
I’m not a scraper but was fascinated by this. That was a great idea to break it down to see if it is worth your time. I would just sell it as a copper motor and move on to the next. Thank you again for your service and for saving the earth every day!
Glad you enjoyed it Kris and you're welcome. I love doing this, especially knowing that every pound of anything I divert from the trash is going to be reused somewhere.
I have a 50 gallon drum full of CRT yokes I've collected over the past 2 years. I plan to harvest the copper this fall and will probably keep it until price goes up. Will let you know how many pounds of copper and shred I get when processed. Thanks for the great vids. My father was in the navy in wwii.
Clarke - CRT yokes are a great source. I have a bin full of them waiting for me to break them down. Waiting is a good call, prices aren't very good right now. But like all commodities, it will recover.
I’m still going to break mine down, I only get 10 cents a pound for motors and that’s the best price within 3 hours of me. Versus breaking them up and getting over 3.00 per pound for copper and 7 cents a pound for shred. Even if i get a pound of copper out of each i’m getting give or take 3.50 for the the whole unit broken down versus 60 cents. That’s my take. Appreciate the video shark. Very informative and helpful.
The decision is very dependent on local prices and at $0.10/lbs for motors your decision makes sense. I find it very interesting that scrap prices can vary so much. Sometimes even within the same city. It pays to shop around and do the math. Keep scrapp'n!
I have a pile of fans ready to break down. However, i scrap because I enjoy it AND the money gets put to work in the garden and beekeeping, thereby growing returns, literally. For that little per hour extra, right now it wouldn't be worth it for me to break the down. Good to know. You saved me hours of work and feelings of guilt for being 'lazy'. I greatly appreciate it.
Well.... there's another category of part-time scrappers who simply love copper and other metals and see stock-piling them as "money in the bank" like a bank account they can see and liquidate anytime they want. They also have the bonus of knowing someday it might sky-rocket in price. So it's kind of like a lower-version of people hoarding gold as a form of security and eliminating stress. While copper is not a precious metal I personally think it's stunningly more beautiful than gold, silver, platinum and bronze and of course it's way, way more accessible at a price of zero. Just another take - Great video.
No arguments. I also find copper very attractive. There are also artists and casters who go for the copper to have material to make things. Many reasons to scrap.
Thanks for the video Shark. I use exactly the same approach. I prefer to scrap them out completely. They are easy to do AND I have the time available to do it.
It just depends on the person, if they have the space and the patience, me I use to stock pile them and slow days tore them down and then stockpiled the copper. Good little video, enjoyed 👍👍
Nice Way of getting the Copper out and Your Great Explanation as always ! Stripping most Scraps for its Non Ferrous Metals will in the long Run make You more Money as we have seen just Recently with Copper and Alu Prices ! If You have the Time Micro Scrapping is the Best - its proven itself soooooooo many Times !!!! Great Video - we love it and Blessings from us in Australia!!!!
As this was a year ago, something to add here in 2023, with the price of zinc rising, the metal parts that hold the blades, usually zinc, are worth saving in a bucket until you get it full.
It's definitely worth keeping if you're going to break down fans. My latest prices are $.045/lbs for cast Al (my yard doesn't separate Al and zinc) vs $0.35/lbs for motors. You also bring up an important issue - the need to keep an eye on prices.
Liked this video. If one needs the money badly scrapping it out is the way to go i guess otherwise maybe not. You definitely think like a business man which is good as you are one. I enjoy watching and listening to your logical reasoning.
It's not always about "needing the money". It's also about time. Today I made my scheduled pickups and had time to spare. When it comes down to doing nothing or mining copper during those free couple of hours I'm going to make a few bucks. I have enough money to sit on my ass this winter while scrapping is slow but I'm not going to do it. I have tons of break down items to keep me busy this winter and my copper stash just gets bigger and bigger. It's like a savings account.
@@tinknal6449 I'd say you made Martha's point quite well and I hope folks read this thread. You're a great example of someone that has thought this through long term. You make enough during "the season" to meet your needs for the year. You continue to earn in the "off season" by mining some of what you accumulated before. This is a good model to follow if one's scrapping is seasonally/weather impacted.
I haven't even been breaking my fans down at all - I think the motor route sounds best. I also understand that you should check the blade attachments to see if they are cast aluminum. Learn something new everyday. What other things have electric motors that makes sense to harvest before you dump it with the shred?
Hey Nacho - yes, I recommend you get the cast Al or pot metal arms that old the blades. I've shown that in other videos and can give you a link if desired. There are several common scrap items that have motors: washers, dryers, Razor scooters (battery operated ones), microwaves, and - of course - other types of fans. Dishwashers will have small motors BUT be careful as many yard will deduct weight because of all the plastic in the body of most dishwashers. Some have stainless steel bodies and make great scrap value.
interesting did that counting my self a hundred times and at mee it depend of my mode if i feel like i will take it apart if not or just have too many sell them as motors👍
I think copper is going to go up, but not significantly enough to justify the time spent on these. That being said, I still tear them down when time allows because both of my local yards have quit taking them as motors and only take them as shred. Not sure if that is because my local yards suck, or if that is an industry trend. my yards won't take aluminum motors/transformers except as shred. :-( Another great tutorial and looking forward to Shark Bytes on Wed.
I'd say that is NOT an industry trend. I have a few yards I work with and they all take copper bearing motors as motors and the aluminum motors as "breakage". I'm guessing your yard doesn't have a buyer for motors OR where they're located makes it not cost effective for them.
I own an e-waste company and boy I have some tips. But when it comes to the copper, we hold it and eventually make bars/ingots and it substantially increases the value of your copper. Just an idea for you...
Thanks - I'm looking into this. So you're essentially a mint or foundry. Most yards will not buy, or pay lower prices, for bars because they don't know the composition. But clearly mints and foundries are treated differently.
I looked on your ABOUT page and don't see an email address. I'd like to explore some of those other tips you suggested you have for me. I'm at sharkscrapper@gmail.com
@@sharkscrapper No we are not a foundry. We just do it and sell to locals and/or online IF we sell it. We have been holding on to them lately. The yards are going to pay you the same price regardless of what shape it's in. You are correct on they will pay lower prices because they feel it may be contaminated. Building relationships is important when you go to sell. You must be genuine when you are melting it down and don't throw some random piece of metal in there. Experts will find out. I feel you are a genuine person for sure especially given your military service. I can across your channel by listening to Nickk Nimmin over the weekend. When he said "scrapper" I went and looked you up. This channel is just geared towards sports cards which is a passion of mine. I don't put my business on social media so that I evade the people that try to ruin you because you said something they didn't like. I have put up how-to videos about it though. We only started doing this about 3 years ago. I got the idea from "bigstackD Casting" on youtube.
@@19thvintage it’s great having you here and I look forward to all you’ll share. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate your comment. As you noted, I keep my channel and related biz on the straight and narrow. My dad was Navy and I served for 25 years. To do anything else is just wrong.
I was surprised the difference was greater. Now some folks are getting very different pricing that changes the math. And of course, if you goal is to stack copper, well that's an entirely different calculus.
Prices vary. Copper here for #2 is 4.30 a pound. Motors 25 cents a pound. Irony aluminum is 20 cents a pound which U threw in shred bucket. Yes it does vary where U r !! As U know I do take apart!! Copper is copper L O L !!! Nicely done !!
Yeah, I should have done a better job discussing the irony/ali or "breakage" part. My yard won't take it as breakage, too much ferrous. But many yards do. I'm so used to putting it in shred I failed to mention that.
I'm stockpiling.I have a 55 gallon barrel nearly full of windings. Not sure what it weighs but I can't move it. I probably have another 3000 pounds of #2, a few hundred #1, a thousand pounds of wire, 1000 pounds of ACR, 500 pounds of brass, and a ton of compressors. Not even thinking of selling until #2 hits at least $5. I read industry analysis and I'm not going to sell until I start to see projections begin to meet future demand. I made my pickups today, sold 2200 pounds of shred at $155 a ton besides a couple hundred pounds of rotors and a few saleables and had time to burn so I broke down motors for an hour. It's that odd hour or 2 a day where this kind of work is profitable. Nothing else going on, I can enjoy a beer or 4 while working my copper mine. Scrapping slows way down here in the winter so I fill my time by adding value. Still have about 20 pool heaters to break down each good for 20 pounds of #2.
That's a very good point that I should have addressed Lens Cap. My yard doesn't, saying it's mostly steel. But I'm sure there must be some that do which changes the math. Thank you
I use a vice on a steel plate inside old plastic tote and hit it with air hammer cut off one side flip over change to fork bit. I brake them down for the copper and save it for trips planning on going to Japan , Korea , Australia next year
That's awesome. I've been to Japan many times in the Navy and private biz. Korea and Australia only once each when I was in the Navy. I'd love to go back to Australia and see New Zealand.
@@sharkscrapper Been to Japan 6 times 4 times with the Army no fun there .I want to ride the bullet train from one end to the other and do the sunrise clime on Fuji.I lived in Korea for 14 months been all over form DMZ to Chjou got chop sticks will travel
Thank you for the informative video! I might have missed it in the video but is this actually what you do with all your fans? Or just this time for the video?
A good question. I had been breaking down the fans for the copper but decided I'd better do the analysis just to be sure. Now that I've done the analysis I am rethinking my strategy. While I want to stock pile copper for the future, I must be mindful of current cash flow and my time. With most of my time devoted to scrapping computers, I will start selling more motors as motors.
@@sharkscrapper I thought it would be something like that! I was a bit dissapointed with how little value increase there was, but I guess processing machines like the hammer mills of MBMM are very efficient, so the scrapyard can offer you pretty close to the actual value that's in the motor. I understand you need the time for other scrapping, I hope you find a different way to keep stockpiling copper.
Could you do a video what is the difference in ceiling fans, like a cheep one from Walmart and an expensive heavy ceiling fan? Are their guts the same?
Interesting - since I find the ceiling fans on the street I have no idea where they were sold or how much they cost. I can make educated guesses based on how fancy and sometimes the brand name. That said, I can't remember ever finding a ceiling fan with an aluminum motor, always copper wire. I'll keep an eye out for fans with obvious quality differences and see if it's worth a video.
in my land the Sweden ;) its better to take ALL kind the more you can work the better pay, becaus the law, we have company that are goverment rule to pick up, an redom scrapper as me if i dont have an company, i do get more for my job than dont, and i have my seller word on it, steel/shreed dont give much if you dont have than an ton, so for me Micro scrapping are the best great video
Prep them for scrapping. Stockpile and get them ready to be scrapped or if the motor price goes up be ready to cash in. I think fan motors are too small to justify the effort put in. Especially wear and tear on the hands . Bigger motors that are copper should be stripped. It's all about efficiency and gaining profit. The amount of copper yielded in the fan motors isn't big enough. My 2 cents.
I liked this video but it's going to cost me seeing it. I will need that hammer then those cutters and the gas to go get them and time as well but I can see the end result will make it easier on me 😆
Trust me, I've been there. Take a look at some of my older videos when I was working out of my garage. OMG, there were times when I had a veritable wall of scrap waiting to fall on me.
Motors for $0.10/lbs?! That's terrible. What is #2 copper there? Hopefully much better. I agree that there's a LOT of head space for copper in the future and if you don't need the cash - stack it.
My logic is totally different, I also look at can i make it into a generator lol but that's just the womble in me l...what i see is a flywheel two good ball racers and shaft so I a need a few magnets and play time lol many happy hours making my hair stand on end
@@sharkscrapper But if i had to make the choice of moving fast at my age i would go for ease of selling on if I was looking at a pile of stuff each day. so sell as is and if i can sell it to someone messing around play generators had ask a fiver for it
Well done, keep that good work. this is for people who enjoy and take it as a hoobie while earn some money. Others, like to scrash in your face (I earn 200 an hour that is a weist of time), i yust say well I am happy for you too
dont seem much to gain money wise but it relieves you from constant computer scrapping then thats a human mind gain may be important *left a like for you 👍Au 👍always a full view*
It's very useful - look for Estwing rock pick or geologic hammers. No I'm not an affiliate, but now that I've said it - that might be an interesting idea?
I've lost track of how many of these I've done over the years. I've just gotten tired of wrestling with that bolt and just cut them off now. Not enough hours in the day for me to go after every little piece. But back when I was a hobbyist, boy howdy the lengths I'd go through cleaning scrap.
I break down just about everything. But it's a piggy bank for me as I'm hoarding the more precious metals. GREAT VIDEO MY FRIEND!! This is a passionate subject for me. Peoples time/space play a HUGE factor in how an educated scrapper breaks down their metals. What works for one, may not work for another. :)
Spot on my friend. Lots of "right" answers to this question and the only wrong answer is to not ask the question.
I’m not a scraper but was fascinated by this. That was a great idea to break it down to see if it is worth your time. I would just sell it as a copper motor and move on to the next. Thank you again for your service and for saving the earth every day!
Glad you enjoyed it Kris and you're welcome. I love doing this, especially knowing that every pound of anything I divert from the trash is going to be reused somewhere.
Great tips you've taken it down in minutes. I want to find a ceiling fan motor now and try.
Awesome - I like folks like you. People who say, "I can't wait to try that."
If you look around, especially this time of year, they’re literally everywhere. You’ll find them.
I have a 50 gallon drum full of CRT yokes I've collected over the past 2 years. I plan to harvest the copper this fall and will probably keep it until price goes up. Will let you know how many pounds of copper and shred I get when processed. Thanks for the great vids. My father was in the navy in wwii.
Clarke - CRT yokes are a great source. I have a bin full of them waiting for me to break them down. Waiting is a good call, prices aren't very good right now. But like all commodities, it will recover.
Your setup and layout of your scrapping zone is amazing!
Thank you - starting over on a new location. We’ll see if we can have an even better arrangement.
@sharkscrapper well I'll be following your videos. If ya did it once, you'll do it again.
I’m still going to break mine down, I only get 10 cents a pound for motors and that’s the best price within 3 hours of me. Versus breaking them up and getting over 3.00 per pound for copper and 7 cents a pound for shred. Even if i get a pound of copper out of each i’m getting give or take 3.50 for the the whole unit broken down versus 60 cents. That’s my take. Appreciate the video shark. Very informative and helpful.
The decision is very dependent on local prices and at $0.10/lbs for motors your decision makes sense. I find it very interesting that scrap prices can vary so much. Sometimes even within the same city. It pays to shop around and do the math. Keep scrapp'n!
I have a pile of fans ready to break down. However, i scrap because I enjoy it AND the money gets put to work in the garden and beekeeping, thereby growing returns, literally. For that little per hour extra, right now it wouldn't be worth it for me to break the down. Good to know. You saved me hours of work and feelings of guilt for being 'lazy'. I greatly appreciate it.
Happy to help. Love that you're using the proceeds for gardening and beekeeping.
Very good video! I just got a bunch of motors. I’m going to take them apart after watching this! Thank You very much! 😊
Well.... there's another category of part-time scrappers who simply love copper and other metals and see stock-piling them as "money in the bank" like a bank account they can see and liquidate anytime they want. They also have the bonus of knowing someday it might sky-rocket in price. So it's kind of like a lower-version of people hoarding gold as a form of security and eliminating stress.
While copper is not a precious metal I personally think it's stunningly more beautiful than gold, silver, platinum and bronze and of course it's way, way more accessible at a price of zero.
Just another take - Great video.
No arguments. I also find copper very attractive. There are also artists and casters who go for the copper to have material to make things. Many reasons to scrap.
Very good video! I just got a bunch of motors. I’m going to take them apart after watching this! Thank You very much!
Glad I could help
Thanks for the video Shark. I use exactly the same approach. I prefer to scrap them out completely. They are easy to do AND I have the time available to do it.
Right on
I definitely want a pair of those snips!
I believe I got those at The Home Depot. The brand name is Irwin. But plenty of other brands out there make compound edge cutters.
@@sharkscrapper the rock hammer too. I'll have to find one too.
Your making it look easy
It just depends on the person, if they have the space and the patience, me I use to stock pile them and slow days tore them down and then stockpiled the copper. Good little video, enjoyed 👍👍
Absolutely Barry - each scrappers situation is different and many right answers to this.
Retired so time is not money, it's actually fun scrapping copper just to see how things are made. That being said money is always good.
I get it. When this was my hobby, I dug into everything. Now we keep them doggies moving 🤣
Nice Way of getting the Copper out and Your Great Explanation as always ! Stripping most Scraps for its Non Ferrous Metals will in the long Run make You more Money as we have seen just Recently with Copper and Alu Prices ! If You have the Time Micro Scrapping is the Best - its proven itself soooooooo many Times !!!! Great Video - we love it and Blessings from us in Australia!!!!
Thanks Michael - especially if you have the room to stack it up and don't need the cash now.
I love the way you tore the fan motor apart.
Thanks Roe - it's the result of watching many other scrappers and trying many different things.
I never thought about cleaning a Ceiling fan motor thank you I’m going to try this out the next Sillen fan I find
Happy to help !
@@sharkscrapper 😎👍
Awesome analysis Shark! There are only so many hours in a day and time is important.
Couldn't agree more!
Yes mine is a slate hammer with the fine point, very handy for smashing plastic also! 🙂👍
A wonderful tool - I'm liking mine more every time I use it.
As this was a year ago, something to add here in 2023, with the price of zinc rising, the metal parts that hold the blades, usually zinc, are worth saving in a bucket until you get it full.
It's definitely worth keeping if you're going to break down fans. My latest prices are $.045/lbs for cast Al (my yard doesn't separate Al and zinc) vs $0.35/lbs for motors. You also bring up an important issue - the need to keep an eye on prices.
@@sharkscrapper Isn't zinc significantly more valuable than Al?
I just like taking things apart. The metal is just gravy.
I love it! 🤣
Liked this video. If one needs the money badly scrapping it out is the way to go i guess otherwise maybe not. You definitely think like a business man which is good as you are one. I enjoy watching and listening to your logical reasoning.
Thanks Martha - lots of factors involved in this and many right answers depending on one's circumstances.
It's not always about "needing the money". It's also about time. Today I made my scheduled pickups and had time to spare. When it comes down to doing nothing or mining copper during those free couple of hours I'm going to make a few bucks. I have enough money to sit on my ass this winter while scrapping is slow but I'm not going to do it. I have tons of break down items to keep me busy this winter and my copper stash just gets bigger and bigger. It's like a savings account.
@@tinknal6449 I'd say you made Martha's point quite well and I hope folks read this thread. You're a great example of someone that has thought this through long term. You make enough during "the season" to meet your needs for the year. You continue to earn in the "off season" by mining some of what you accumulated before. This is a good model to follow if one's scrapping is seasonally/weather impacted.
@@sharkscrapper Thanks, my stash is also a nice little insurance policy I could draw on in times of need.
I haven't even been breaking my fans down at all - I think the motor route sounds best. I also understand that you should check the blade attachments to see if they are cast aluminum. Learn something new everyday. What other things have electric motors that makes sense to harvest before you dump it with the shred?
Hey Nacho - yes, I recommend you get the cast Al or pot metal arms that old the blades. I've shown that in other videos and can give you a link if desired. There are several common scrap items that have motors: washers, dryers, Razor scooters (battery operated ones), microwaves, and - of course - other types of fans. Dishwashers will have small motors BUT be careful as many yard will deduct weight because of all the plastic in the body of most dishwashers. Some have stainless steel bodies and make great scrap value.
Where I'm at it's 16¢ a pound. So it's definitely worth it for me to take them apart.
That's why I do these vids, to help people make informed decisions.
I take the copper out the same way but have a wash tub i put under the vice and let it drop
Very clever
Nice vid my friend a thorough breakdown there of pros & cons
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Shark, I like the way you broke down the prices. I think copper prices will go up
You and me both!
interesting did that counting my self a hundred times and at mee it depend of my mode if i feel like i will take it apart if not or just have too many sell them as motors👍
I understand that logic completely brother.
Rocking it with that rock hammer. Very good video Shark. 🦈
Rock on!
It’s good for smelting so I like that idea (:
In my area they don't buy ceiling fan motors
So I either have to strip them or toss them in shred
That’s unfortunate
I think copper is going to go up, but not significantly enough to justify the time spent on these. That being said, I still tear them down when time allows because both of my local yards have quit taking them as motors and only take them as shred. Not sure if that is because my local yards suck, or if that is an industry trend. my yards won't take aluminum motors/transformers except as shred. :-( Another great tutorial and looking forward to Shark Bytes on Wed.
I'd say that is NOT an industry trend. I have a few yards I work with and they all take copper bearing motors as motors and the aluminum motors as "breakage". I'm guessing your yard doesn't have a buyer for motors OR where they're located makes it not cost effective for them.
Oh yaeah interesting think! Have a nice day my brother in collecting and scrapping!
Thanks 👍 I love these mental exercises or brain games.
Great vid.
Some of my ceiling fan motors appear to have copper plated aluminum windings.
Interesting, but doesn't surprise me. I'm seeing more and more Al wire in use.
Any valuable metals are worth my time. Just keep pile it up. The worth of copper is going up.
Cu is absolutely going up. Only you can decide what your time is worth. I'm just trying to help folks make informed decisions.
I have broken down some to that point and there is some that will not give me a chance to do that
I know what you mean, some can be very uncooperative.
I own an e-waste company and boy I have some tips. But when it comes to the copper, we hold it and eventually make bars/ingots and it substantially increases the value of your copper. Just an idea for you...
Thanks - I'm looking into this. So you're essentially a mint or foundry. Most yards will not buy, or pay lower prices, for bars because they don't know the composition. But clearly mints and foundries are treated differently.
I looked on your ABOUT page and don't see an email address. I'd like to explore some of those other tips you suggested you have for me. I'm at sharkscrapper@gmail.com
@@sharkscrapper No we are not a foundry. We just do it and sell to locals and/or online IF we sell it. We have been holding on to them lately. The yards are going to pay you the same price regardless of what shape it's in. You are correct on they will pay lower prices because they feel it may be contaminated. Building relationships is important when you go to sell. You must be genuine when you are melting it down and don't throw some random piece of metal in there. Experts will find out. I feel you are a genuine person for sure especially given your military service. I can across your channel by listening to Nickk Nimmin over the weekend. When he said "scrapper" I went and looked you up. This channel is just geared towards sports cards which is a passion of mine. I don't put my business on social media so that I evade the people that try to ruin you because you said something they didn't like. I have put up how-to videos about it though. We only started doing this about 3 years ago. I got the idea from "bigstackD Casting" on youtube.
@@19thvintage it’s great having you here and I look forward to all you’ll share. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate your comment. As you noted, I keep my channel and related biz on the straight and narrow. My dad was Navy and I served for 25 years. To do anything else is just wrong.
Always good to know if something is really worth taking apart or not.
I was surprised the difference was greater. Now some folks are getting very different pricing that changes the math. And of course, if you goal is to stack copper, well that's an entirely different calculus.
@@sharkscrapper Yes, I am not stacking Ima sellin' 😁😁
Prices vary. Copper here for #2 is 4.30 a pound. Motors 25 cents a pound. Irony aluminum is 20 cents a pound which U threw in shred bucket. Yes it does vary where U r !! As U know I do take apart!! Copper is copper L O L !!! Nicely done !!
Yeah, I should have done a better job discussing the irony/ali or "breakage" part. My yard won't take it as breakage, too much ferrous. But many yards do. I'm so used to putting it in shred I failed to mention that.
Great vid Shark. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I'm hoarding right now. Copper should rebound again.
Solid plan
Very helpful Shark
Luckily my yard accepts it all as a motor
That is fortunate.
Thumbs UP
Good one shark well presented two thumbs
Thanks 👍👍🏼 back at you Joseph
I'm stockpiling.I have a 55 gallon barrel nearly full of windings. Not sure what it weighs but I can't move it. I probably have another 3000 pounds of #2, a few hundred #1, a thousand pounds of wire, 1000 pounds of ACR, 500 pounds of brass, and a ton of compressors. Not even thinking of selling until #2 hits at least $5. I read industry analysis and I'm not going to sell until I start to see projections begin to meet future demand. I made my pickups today, sold 2200 pounds of shred at $155 a ton besides a couple hundred pounds of rotors and a few saleables and had time to burn so I broke down motors for an hour. It's that odd hour or 2 a day where this kind of work is profitable. Nothing else going on, I can enjoy a beer or 4 while working my copper mine. Scrapping slows way down here in the winter so I fill my time by adding value. Still have about 20 pool heaters to break down each good for 20 pounds of #2.
Awesome plan, well considered. And "enjoy a beer or 4" 🤣
Will your yard give you a better price for the irony-aluminum stator, since it is separate vs shred steel?
That's a very good point that I should have addressed Lens Cap. My yard doesn't, saying it's mostly steel. But I'm sure there must be some that do which changes the math. Thank you
The more that I break down the more for my bank account
There you go
I use a vice on a steel plate inside old plastic tote and hit it with air hammer cut off one side flip over change to fork bit. I brake them down for the copper and save it for trips planning on going to Japan , Korea , Australia next year
That's awesome. I've been to Japan many times in the Navy and private biz. Korea and Australia only once each when I was in the Navy. I'd love to go back to Australia and see New Zealand.
@@sharkscrapper Been to Japan 6 times 4 times with the Army no fun there .I want to ride the bullet train from one end to the other and do the sunrise clime on Fuji.I lived in Korea for 14 months been all over form DMZ to Chjou got chop sticks will travel
@@jr-a-cat Sounds like loads of fun
Very informative thank you
You're welcome - my pleasure
Thank you for the informative video!
I might have missed it in the video but is this actually what you do with all your fans? Or just this time for the video?
A good question. I had been breaking down the fans for the copper but decided I'd better do the analysis just to be sure. Now that I've done the analysis I am rethinking my strategy. While I want to stock pile copper for the future, I must be mindful of current cash flow and my time. With most of my time devoted to scrapping computers, I will start selling more motors as motors.
@@sharkscrapper I thought it would be something like that!
I was a bit dissapointed with how little value increase there was, but I guess processing machines like the hammer mills of MBMM are very efficient, so the scrapyard can offer you pretty close to the actual value that's in the motor.
I understand you need the time for other scrapping, I hope you find a different way to keep stockpiling copper.
is that an Estwing hammer? They have been in my vehicle since i started looking at rocks.
Yes, it sure is Peggy - good eyes.
Of course i would separate them if i have chance to come across one lol :)
🤣 I have a hard NOT coming across them.
I try to brake down everything I enjoy that part i even strip extension cords
It is fun taking things apart. It's one of the few things I'm good at 🤣
@@sharkscrapper yes your are I really enjoy your videos like that it Really helps me in my scrapping to.
I’ve gotten $20-$25 for a set of blades n arms. Especially the stainless arms. eBay.
Very cool
I break down everything but then again I only do this as a hobby where you do it as a business
Your breakdowns are very entertaining 😂
Could you do a video what is the difference in ceiling fans, like a cheep one from Walmart and an expensive heavy ceiling fan? Are their guts the same?
Interesting - since I find the ceiling fans on the street I have no idea where they were sold or how much they cost. I can make educated guesses based on how fancy and sometimes the brand name. That said, I can't remember ever finding a ceiling fan with an aluminum motor, always copper wire. I'll keep an eye out for fans with obvious quality differences and see if it's worth a video.
Nice tear down and value comparison. Bet you could do it quicker when no-one is watching though. Take care, Poo
I'm certainly faster with computers when nobody is around or I'm not recording.
I break down most of my motors bec. I only get 7cents per kg for them
Very understandable.
Bank all the brunt/no2 Copper
Hey Snobby - great to hear from you. Trust all is well?
@@sharkscrapper hi sharky.
New Jersey
in my land the Sweden ;) its better to take ALL kind the more you can work the better pay,
becaus the law, we have company that are goverment rule to pick up, an redom scrapper as me if i dont have an company,
i do get more for my job than dont, and i have my seller word on it,
steel/shreed dont give much if you dont have than an ton, so for me Micro scrapping are the best
great video
Yes, it is very important that each scrapper understand their laws and situation. Lots of right answers to this issue.
@@sharkscrapper ;)
Prep them for scrapping. Stockpile and get them ready to be scrapped or if the motor price goes up be ready to cash in. I think fan motors are too small to justify the effort put in. Especially wear and tear on the hands .
Bigger motors that are copper should be stripped. It's all about efficiency and gaining profit. The amount of copper yielded in the fan motors isn't big enough. My 2 cents.
That's absolutely a reasonable observation and one worth considering. But now you've got my head going on what is the optimal motor size to scrap 🤣
I liked this video but it's going to cost me seeing it. I will need that hammer then those cutters and the gas to go get them and time as well but I can see the end result will make it easier on me 😆
Sorry about that Wayne 🤣
@@sharkscrapper that's alright it's things that will make scrapping easier.
It all depends on what your time is worth I personally break down all tge motors I get
Agreed - how we value our time is a big factor in this decision.
Break down my yard 20 cents lb motor and they have to see the copper wire so I have to half break down any way.
I don't blame you - in that situation, I'd do the same.
SPACE and storage is the issue for me
Trust me, I've been there. Take a look at some of my older videos when I was working out of my garage. OMG, there were times when I had a veritable wall of scrap waiting to fall on me.
Motor price here is 10 cent so I scrap all mine 👊🏻does one ceiling fan motor weight 6 pounds 😳
Plus I believe copper is going to sky rocket in the next 5 years so if you don’t need to live I say stack it as high as the hills 👊🏻
Motors for $0.10/lbs?! That's terrible. What is #2 copper there? Hopefully much better. I agree that there's a LOT of head space for copper in the future and if you don't need the cash - stack it.
@@sharkscrapper I haven’t sold copper in two years .. but I think number 2 is 2.85
@@streetcopper1151 That sounds about right. That's about what we're getting.
It's kinda pathetic now that modern ceiling fan motors are smaller than box fan motors, even though ceiling fans are heavier.
these motors do keep getting smaller
@@sharkscrapper probably because of copper prices going up, which makes them shrink their motors.
My logic is totally different, I also look at can i make it into a generator lol but that's just the womble in me l...what i see is a flywheel two good ball racers and shaft so I a need a few magnets and play time lol many happy hours making my hair stand on end
Now that is a very different perspective on the subject.
@@sharkscrapper But if i had to make the choice of moving fast at my age i would go for ease of selling on if I was looking at a pile of stuff each day. so sell as is and if i can sell it to someone messing around play generators had ask a fiver for it
Well done, keep that good work. this is for people who enjoy and take it as a hoobie while earn some money. Others, like to scrash in your face (I earn 200 an hour that is a weist of time), i yust say well I am happy for you too
I hear you Luis. Scrapping is definitely NOT for everybody. AND the difference between scrapping/recycling as a hobby VS a profitable biz is huge.
Copper is doing the yo-yo effect
Yup, it's a commodity and that's what they do.
I break mine down...I like scrapping as a hobbie.
It is a very enjoyable hobby for sure.
good vid keep up the good vids
So what you're really trying to say is "there's more than one way to skin an electric motor"? 😊
There's almost always more than one way scrap things.
dont seem much to gain money wise but it relieves you from constant computer scrapping then thats a human mind gain may be important
*left a like for you 👍Au 👍always a full view*
It is good to have a little change of pace some times.
I tear everything down for the best value because I have nothing but time with being on disability
That makes sense.
For a lousy 15 minutes u can get an extra 1 to 2 dollars per fan .
Well, as I showed - in my case it's 10 mins to get $0.38, not a dollar or two. But it is so dependent on your local prices.
I break stuff down for stress relief. Better to make $2.28/hr than scream at kids for no reason or get an aneurysm.
That's a very good reason to break stuff down. Keep at it!
I'm gonna have to order me a rock hammer. That or find one somewhere.
It's very useful - look for Estwing rock pick or geologic hammers. No I'm not an affiliate, but now that I've said it - that might be an interesting idea?
When you cut the end of the shaft you cheated yourself the ability to remove the cast aluminum bracket. I have done over fifty of these motors fyi
I've lost track of how many of these I've done over the years. I've just gotten tired of wrestling with that bolt and just cut them off now. Not enough hours in the day for me to go after every little piece. But back when I was a hobbyist, boy howdy the lengths I'd go through cleaning scrap.
@@sharkscrapper yes, I was the same when I first started, but now i've cut back on a lot of stuff. Garage has a lot of copper to be work.
@@harleyfan3875 👍🏼
I think it would be a lot easier if you held the hammer in your right hand ;)
Think 🤔 he's left handed.
As Ruth noted, I'm a southpaw. If used my right hand with the hammer there would be a lot of pain involved. 🤣
Yup - I'm a southpaw
@@sharkscrapper I am also a southpaw scrapper.
Sell as is, try to repair if it possible 😵👍
🤣 repair? Not on this channel 😆🔨
@@sharkscrapper omg I can't watch you braking things that are so expensive & useful to me Sir 🙃👍
@@DIYwithBatteries I get it - it's in your name - DIY 😆 I can understand how what I do could be a touch painful 🤣
It's not work It's a hobby
Awesome - it's a great hobby for sure!
I'm hoarding right now. Copper should rebound again.
good plan