Ben Heck’s Super Soldered Atari 2600

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  • @muh1h1
    @muh1h1 8 років тому +28

    i am very happy to see Felix more and more infront of the camera, he did make some GREAT progress regarding that!

    • @felixhultman184
      @felixhultman184 8 років тому +4

      +muh1h1
      "This week on the Ben Heck Show, we will make a thing."
      *Makes thing*
      "So here's what we made, see you all next week."
      These are my hopes and dreams.

  • @nathangek
    @nathangek 8 років тому +123

    I miss the "BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES!" :(

    • @felixhultman184
      @felixhultman184 8 років тому +15

      +PNathan Regrettable acting my ass, that was epic.

    • @izzc2506
      @izzc2506 8 років тому +1

      Saaaaaaaaaame

    • @lowkeyamv7262
      @lowkeyamv7262 8 років тому

      +PNathan dude yes

    • @nathangek
      @nathangek 8 років тому +1

      +Michał Sopa the intro at 1:30 or so from the "star wars Christmas special"

    • @ZakkBlog
      @ZakkBlog 8 років тому

      +PNathan maybe my above comment was filtered because i linked to the video, but it's from the "Hacking the Zombie Apocalypse" episode :) was definitely one of the funnier episodes i've seen lol

  • @RaveYoda
    @RaveYoda 8 років тому +15

    Yaaay Felix! We need more of him on camera!

  • @uriituw
    @uriituw 8 років тому +8

    I love seeing the MOS logo!

  • @JgHaverty
    @JgHaverty 8 років тому +3

    Soldering is 20% skill, 80% art. Anyone "can solder" but getting nice, clean, solid joints is definitely an art form. Thanks ben! haha

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому +1

      Soldering is definitely a skill, one Ben isn't great at. Wire routing, on the other hand, is an art, and Ben's work is just gorgeous!!

    • @JgHaverty
      @JgHaverty 8 років тому +1

      +Antonio Tejada And you're definitely an idiot! That soldering was perfect and very clean.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      +JgHaverty LOL nah, I just know what I'm talking about. His joints have far too much solder - the solder fillets are supposed to be concave. (And if you look at other comments here, you'll see many people saying the same thing.)

    • @spacedudejr
      @spacedudejr 6 років тому

      ladies, ladies, you're both idiots.

  • @wattage
    @wattage 8 років тому

    This was a very relaxing and educational episode. Lots of great soldering tips from the Heck, who's done it once or twice.

  • @benadams6332
    @benadams6332 8 років тому +28

    Be careful with that "excess solder on tip whip on the floor" action.
    One day you will wear shorts, it is not pleasant, speaking from experience.

    • @vomKuckucksfelsen
      @vomKuckucksfelsen 8 років тому +3

      +Alfred Stampe everyone needs to make this experience :D

    • @calirific3503
      @calirific3503 5 років тому +3

      It is not super bad. Got solder one time on my arm. It immediately solidifies (due to cold skin) and then drops to the floor or whatever. No burns.

    • @ocpud2999
      @ocpud2999 4 роки тому

      My dad is an engineer one day I was 6 at the time he had solder on floor guess who stepped on solder? Yep that hurt lol.

  • @yodal_
    @yodal_ 8 років тому +2

    Finally, the intro was changed! If I had to hear "How can we make this portable?" and "Batten down the hatches!" again, I think I would have gone insane.

  • @tmcdon4ld
    @tmcdon4ld 8 років тому

    Thanks, I have been soldering and running bodge wires for a long time, but I learned a lot from watching you build this. Now I just need to find something as ambitious as building a perf board Atari 2600.

  • @demoscenes
    @demoscenes 8 років тому +3

    Now, this segment was excellent! Really gave lots of ideas for a newbie solderer like myself. Also an interesting project :-)
    Thanks Ben you rock!

  • @torpedo35
    @torpedo35 8 років тому

    Very good episode. Happy to watch circuits built from scratch anywhere , anytime..

  • @gionder
    @gionder 6 років тому

    I basically have zero idea what he's talking about when he explains what the parts do, but I find this amazing to watch. The closest I get to this is the eventual soldering a household power wire when I'm changing a socket or something. Still, you can tell the man knows his stuff

  • @aaroNiGHTS
    @aaroNiGHTS 8 років тому

    The bloopers are even better with the close up on the circuit playing.

  • @theacematt2
    @theacematt2 8 років тому +1

    AHHH I JUST REALIZED HER SHIRT WAS A TRENT/DARIA SHIRT!!!!!!!!!!!! ............ that's so cool (and i'm not sure how many other viewers will note it, but, i felt compelled to mention it). Also -- your solder / wiring work is very impressive. Thank you for this video.

  • @paulgascoigne5343
    @paulgascoigne5343 8 років тому

    it's always fascinating seeing how small you can make old tech, even build full systems with a few chips, some wire and a few components. There's something quite thrilling about it, even though I type this on a quad core 1.2ghz cell phone, it's somewhat amazing to see an atari the same size.

  • @MrToontownforever
    @MrToontownforever 8 років тому

    For some strange reason this is extremely soothing/calming

  • @casiothestrong
    @casiothestrong 8 років тому

    This is by far my favourite BenHeck episode to date! Excellent video that taught me some new soldering techniques. :D

  • @bcsuda
    @bcsuda 8 років тому

    Oh man! I seriously can't wait for Felix's episode! That sounds like an awesome project and I am looking forward to finding out if he is a musician. I actually didn't know. He's so full of surprises! Enjoy your vacation, Ben.

  • @johnnyg5237
    @johnnyg5237 8 років тому +1

    i just wanted to say thank you so much for your inspiring videos ben heck and your team i have watched almost everyone of your videos and i got into console hacking after many attempted fails #nevergiveup you guys have inspired me to go to school for electronic engineering. your videos always seem to peak my interest and give me more determination to trouble shoot my projects and push myself further in school. im sure you hear this often but whole heartedly youve changed my life thank you

  • @iCach0
    @iCach0 8 років тому

    New music? Loved it. Excellent idea for an episode BTW! When it comes to soldering I can use all the help I can get.

  • @jesuishalil
    @jesuishalil 7 років тому

    Here's an idea for you Ben, when soldering the wire with your method(by smelting the outer tubing) you can verify a good bond by have a multimeter in continuity mode attached to your soldering iron's frame and the wire you are currently soldering.

  • @atraxr603
    @atraxr603 7 років тому +1

    That's some nice soldering!

  • @FrankMakesStuff
    @FrankMakesStuff 8 років тому

    Another awesome video! definitely harkens back to some older TBHS episodes that featured the assembly process a little more prominently than some later episodes.

  • @casperhito
    @casperhito 8 років тому +7

    the guitar vid is going to be awesome!

  • @chtps3
    @chtps3 8 років тому +1

    Best EPISODE not extreme builds but a lot of behind the scenes work and technics. Moreover Felix will give us a great episode because even Ben need vacations. Might look like human but even androids need some days of in order to upgrade themselves! haha

  • @Azure-88
    @Azure-88 8 років тому

    I'd love to have a complete guide to make an Atari 2600 using new, widely available components. Tried to find one already written on google with no luck. Also I loved this video, very satisfying to watch the electronic 'sewing' and hear you explain the details of what you're doing.

  • @googleboughtmee
    @googleboughtmee 8 років тому +3

    That looks exactly like when I solder, except here the solder is going where you wanted it to.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      +googleboughtmee Use more flux, and heat the components more before bringing in the solder.

  • @PixelOutlaw
    @PixelOutlaw 8 років тому

    Good to see some nice pefboard work. Too many people used huge blobs of solder to make tracks rather than simply use small wire.

  • @Masonly2
    @Masonly2 8 років тому

    Production quality has upped a lot since I last watched (Which is a while ago), Congrats, Ben!

  • @mtbevins
    @mtbevins 8 років тому

    It is art watching Ben solder. Looking forward to Felix's Guitar project.

  • @mdytmhgd
    @mdytmhgd 8 років тому

    Thank you for completing that solder joint @3:55. I was beginning to get shaky when I see stuff like that.

  • @Relaxingmusic-zm8ef
    @Relaxingmusic-zm8ef 8 років тому

    He's been modding for 16 years, that's something! I'm just watching the dream cast mod and it's a fair amount of work! I just look at this guy and think, wow - well done Ben :D Inspirational

  • @willproctor7301
    @willproctor7301 7 років тому

    It's not sodering or soldering, when it's done like this, it's art.

  • @ggeorge747
    @ggeorge747 8 років тому +1

    As Adam the Woo would say, "Heck it!" Let's build an Atari!

  • @innerteapot
    @innerteapot 8 років тому

    Love the updated intro sequence 👍 Of course the old one was great too. It's nice to have a change 😎

  • @brandon-butler
    @brandon-butler 8 років тому

    I'm so happy to see you do a project I suggested a while back :)

  • @bzboii
    @bzboii 8 років тому

    this channel needs WAYY more subs

  • @glennlake1138
    @glennlake1138 8 років тому +2

    Great video... Your like the Bob Ross of soldering!!

  • @nzoomed
    @nzoomed 8 років тому

    I was interested in building a similar 8 bit system built from scratch. very interesting video!

  • @Storebrand_
    @Storebrand_ 6 років тому

    I like watching Ben solder cause I don't have to deal with the frustration of making mistakes and having to redo something 3 times.

  • @AdrianDerBitschubser
    @AdrianDerBitschubser 8 років тому +58

    bob ross of soldering

    • @dj505Gaming
      @dj505Gaming 8 років тому

      Yup

    • @mitchmarvinmartian
      @mitchmarvinmartian 8 років тому +1

      +Adrian Kulisch I was FULLY mesmerized.

    • @elvee88
      @elvee88 8 років тому

      +Adrian Kulisch Soddering*

    • @dj505Gaming
      @dj505Gaming 8 років тому +1

      +Luca Van No, it's spelled soldering, at least here in Canada. There might be a few ways to spell it.

    • @elvee88
      @elvee88 8 років тому +1

      *****
      I was making a cheap predictable joke about how they're pronouncing it.

  • @eclipsemn8806
    @eclipsemn8806 8 років тому

    this is really cool because I know exactly what you were saying about everything because we learned all of this stuff in my college classes with the oscilloscopes and "and, or, not, xor gates". it's really interesting and cool stuff to learn and to play around with.

  • @pratherat
    @pratherat 8 років тому

    I bought a Haako soldering iron tip cleaner, and have never gone back to the sponge. It does a great job. Also, with the cost of custom printed circuit boards dropping like crazy, all you need is about a week and a half of patience to do away with all the fiddly wiring.

  • @mauryginsberg7720
    @mauryginsberg7720 7 років тому

    FANTASTIC! More 8-bit please? With links to Machine code/Assembly too would be great!

  • @TheeCK1357
    @TheeCK1357 7 років тому +3

    Why is the solder so satisfying?

  • @Pawelism
    @Pawelism 8 років тому

    This was great to watch! What gauge of wire did you use for the 'tiny wire'?
    I also thought it was neat that each piece of Ben-made hardware has a custom signature in the form of your hot glue fingerprint holding down the wires.

  • @gassnake2004
    @gassnake2004 8 років тому +1

    Sick Daria shirt. WE'LL STILL BE FRICKIN' FRIENDS!

  • @DogRox
    @DogRox 8 років тому

    That was killer! I do a lot of that kind of work making my Arduino shields from scratch, although I don't use SMDs. I don't know if I can handle them right yet that's just too fine of a work for me :-) but I like to know what kind of solid wire that was used because I'm using that fine wire from IDE ribbon cables, it stranded and hard to work with. Nice work, Ben!! :-)

  • @maelstrom16
    @maelstrom16 8 років тому

    My favorite part was watching the solder wire slowly shrink while he was melting it onto the pins XD

  • @tookitogo
    @tookitogo 8 років тому

    Ben, your soldering technique still needs work, but damn, that wire routing of yours is just art!!

  • @allluckyseven
    @allluckyseven 8 років тому

    Good episode.
    Neat soldering and arrangement of the wires, but also nice background music and animation.
    EDIT: It appears that you lost the font for the end warning card. When you fix it, could you please fix the _("element14)"_ bit, swapping the last parenthesis with the quote character?

  • @SwingingTheDead1
    @SwingingTheDead1 8 років тому

    Stoked for next week!

  • @wallacelang1374
    @wallacelang1374 3 роки тому

    I found it interesting to see Ben Heck doing a Super Solder on the Atari 2600 three main chips, but my big question is "what is Ben intending to make out of this device?"

  • @BunnyFett
    @BunnyFett 8 років тому

    Extreme soldering video, love it.

  • @thalesmedeiros1235
    @thalesmedeiros1235 8 років тому

    Really wanna see Felix in action hosting the show for a day!

  • @austincarter9523
    @austincarter9523 6 років тому

    When Ben solders it looks like he's putting icing on a cake like if you agree

  • @zaidhussain5206
    @zaidhussain5206 8 років тому +1

    Hi Ben,
    Thank you for sharing , did you publish the schematic diagram ?

    • @chestergeo
      @chestergeo 8 років тому

      There are diagrams here: github.com/thebenheckshow/226-tbhs-Super-Soldered-Atari-2600 , and docs/Schematic_Atari2600_2000.png seems to be the main diagram (can someone confirm?), but I'm not sure how much of it was actually used (it seems to be a diagram for the original console).
      I wish to reproduce this on solderless protoboard, but I'm still struggling to figure out a materials list from there (electronics is not my super strong skill). If anyone could figure that out it would be great.

    • @zaidhussain5206
      @zaidhussain5206 8 років тому

      Thank you so much , I will check it .

  • @FrankSandqvist
    @FrankSandqvist 8 років тому +108

    Gah, Ben uses too much solder o.o

    • @aapenjong
      @aapenjong 8 років тому +14

      +Frank Sandqvist Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. The solder should form a dome around the pin, not a huge glob.

    • @FrankSandqvist
      @FrankSandqvist 8 років тому +1

      aapenjong Exactly!

    • @MDSilverstar
      @MDSilverstar 8 років тому +5

      +Frank Sandqvist Agreed :) But if you watch his movies in general, many of his soldering jobs, looks like they are close to cold :P And sooo much solder!

    • @Space_Reptile
      @Space_Reptile 8 років тому +39

      +Frank Sandqvist he uses the excess solder to solder the wires to the pins whitout having to reapply solder

    • @JanCiger
      @JanCiger 8 років тому +11

      +Rasmus Jørgensen Well, he doesn't use flux neither and especially the SMD soldering part was cringe-worthy thanks to that - solder dragging into those sharp, pointy spikes is a sure sign of oxidized solder and lack of flux.

  • @CheezMonsterCrazy
    @CheezMonsterCrazy 8 років тому

    There are no mistakes in soldering. Only happy little accidents.
    Except when you make a mistake.

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 8 років тому +2

    That's some blobby solder for sure. Maybe a narrower thickness solder will help you there. Solder joints should be concave, not convex/spherical.

    • @Psychlist1972
      @Psychlist1972 8 років тому +1

      +Pete Brown I see you explain it later, to say you want to make sure there's enough. But for folks unfamiliar with soldering, they need to know this isn't a model to follow. I do enjoy your projects, though.

  • @SublimatedIce
    @SublimatedIce 8 років тому +1

    Hey Ben,
    Great video. I was left wondering What kind of solder and flux/resin core do you use? Also, what gauge of wire is the black wire?
    Thanks again for the great video!

  • @tschak909
    @tschak909 8 років тому

    People with ASMR are _loving_ this.

  • @michaeltimblin9776
    @michaeltimblin9776 8 років тому

    I'm really looking forward to next week's video now!!!!

  • @KeyToTime
    @KeyToTime 8 років тому

    Beautiful peace of work!

  • @knapsttub
    @knapsttub 8 років тому +1

    Early in the video Ben mentioned handedness when soldering and I realized I prefer to heat components with my left hand while feeding solder with my right. I'm right-handed. Is this unusual or is it fairly common when soldering? I feel I have more control feeding solder with my right hand. I dunno. Just wondering if I'm a weirdo or if other do this too.

  • @NakatsuHime
    @NakatsuHime 8 років тому

    I ended up watching this for the soldering technique - which I totally lack. Also, the iron I use currently has a pointed tip, so that doesn't help. Luckily, I have tons of old-fashioned lead-based solder, which is much much better than the modern stuff.
    I really need to get my skills up to speed before I dissemble my DX7s synth to change its backup battery, that is hard-soldered to the PCB. Thanks Yamaha for making this an easy task !

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      Yeah, I hate conical tips too. Chisel or bevel tips are the way to go! (And a drag soldering tip, which has a little well to grab solder. Freaking amazing even for other things.) Good leaded solder is still available. I use Kester 63/37 with 44/66 flux core (3% rosin core) in a few different thicknesses, which you can get on Amazon. MG Chemicals solder is also very good. Multicore brand is supposed to be awesome, too, but I've never tried it.

  • @mooncabbagere
    @mooncabbagere 8 років тому

    I like the idea of using larger smd parts on the perfboard, wouldn't have thought of that.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      +Mooncabbage I've done it a few times. It's surprisingly easy and time-saving (no bending and trimming component leads) with a bit of practice.

  • @kieferonline
    @kieferonline 8 років тому

    This is a very useful video! It's good to see some nuances of how soldering is done. These pieces are so tiny.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      +kieferonline Hah, not even close. This is as un-nuanced as you can get in soldering. Ben does great wire routing and overall design, but his soldering is really bad. (And none of the components he used are especially small. Most new components are much smaller.)

    • @kieferonline
      @kieferonline 8 років тому

      Well, he's the best--among those who also post soldering videos to UA-cam. I'd definitely like to see better examples, if you have a suggestion.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      +kieferonline Look for the tutorials from Pace and EEVblog.

  • @TheJeremyHolloway
    @TheJeremyHolloway 8 років тому

    Just starting up the episode…but…wouldn't you want to solder sockets? That's a very popular mod to do to existing 2600 PCBs by the fans in the community. Obviously makes it much easier to replace defective chips like the RIOT or TIA if they eventually fail.

  • @AerikForager
    @AerikForager 8 років тому

    You had me at solder episode... You had me at solder...

  • @theslvrbullt
    @theslvrbullt 7 років тому

    525 *F?
    Well... Looks like I gotta turn in my electronics tinkerer card. Explains a lot really...

  • @Sexyorange100
    @Sexyorange100 8 років тому +1

    Ben hair is only 50% loaded

  • @ShawnBrezny
    @ShawnBrezny 6 років тому

    impressive soldering project!

  • @goo3r
    @goo3r 8 років тому

    Ben is fantastic, but I'm excited to see Felix host an episode!

  • @keithbk
    @keithbk 6 років тому

    Just curious, when creating your own project like this with Atari chips, how easy would it be to include optional peripherals like the components of the Starpath Supercharger?

  • @proyectosledar
    @proyectosledar 8 років тому +3

    you need more light

  • @DanSanderson
    @DanSanderson 8 років тому

    A newbie question about flux: This video shows leaving excess solder on a pin/pad for future use when connecting wires. In this first connection, the flux in the solder core melts and deoxidizes the pin and pad to form a strong bond. In the subsequent connection with the wire, there is no flux to help remove oxidation from the wire. How does this affect the quality of the second bond? Do you find you need to introduce more flux (such as with a flux pen) to make this technique work? Are you melting the wire casing and the solder in a single operation with the iron?
    Thanks for making these slower-paced vids! I like seeing a good mix of interesting builds and skill deep dives.

    • @gavincurtis
      @gavincurtis 8 років тому

      If your skilled at soldering, you can often get a 2nd reflow with remaining flux that hasn't evaporated. Skilled meaning a quick and efficient solder connection. But always have a flux pen handy. 2nd and 3rd or more reflows will always need the extra flux (especially that crappy lead free solder) to get a clean solder without icicles. Icicles are the pointy edges left on solder as it oxidizes. Just as flux and reflow to cure icicles. Hope this helps.

    • @mrmike04st
      @mrmike04st 8 років тому

      +The Dollar Guy he didn't even tin the wires which can cause all sorts of problems. You should always tin the leads. Poor soldering technique. If you want real answers look up the IPC J-STD.

    • @gavincurtis
      @gavincurtis 8 років тому

      Steffenwolfe
      You are absolutely correct. I always pre-tin the wire and it is so automatic/assumed, I forgot to mention it. Sorry about that. But with an already tinned wire and existing clean solder connection, you can make 2nd solder reflow usually without additional flux.

  • @rluquett
    @rluquett 8 років тому

    you are very skilled. I have done similar work, but man! you are good!

  • @Yoyo-ci6gt
    @Yoyo-ci6gt 7 років тому

    I like how it the soldering wire just goes away so fast and turns into liquid

  • @Sidman723
    @Sidman723 8 років тому +17

    why does Karen always wear long sleeves, gloves and a long scarf in the studio? Is it that cold in there?

    • @element14presents
      @element14presents  8 років тому +8

      +Isidro Murillo Da brrrr

    • @mikaelkarlsson9945
      @mikaelkarlsson9945 8 років тому +2

      +Isidro Murillo Maybe she's hiding lots of nice body arts for us viewers?
      She's for sure a giant ESD hazard.. :D

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 8 років тому +2

      +Isidro Murillo Workshops are often unheated, you can see Ben also wearing some pretty thick sweaters in some of the videos.

    • @psiewert83
      @psiewert83 8 років тому +6

      +Isidro Murillo Next week on the Ben Heck Show....Ben finally solders up the space heater!

    • @JgHaverty
      @JgHaverty 8 років тому +6

      +Isidro Murillo Because women are always cold.

  • @CimandeTube
    @CimandeTube 8 років тому

    Can you please do a video on the SNES mods (region, Htz, led) that are widely known. The current mods are really messy but there is one nice implentation that is really neat. Id like to see how you tackle lifting the pins etc.

  • @davidsipos8708
    @davidsipos8708 8 років тому

    oh boy , im hyped for next week'y show

  • @TheSonicsean
    @TheSonicsean 8 років тому

    It looks almost small enough that you could fit the Atari 2600 into an Atari 2600 cartridge.

  • @farktard2740
    @farktard2740 8 років тому +1

    What is soddering?

  • @Jansson1985
    @Jansson1985 8 років тому

    Looking forward for part2 ✌🏻️😎

  • @somethingelse2lookat502
    @somethingelse2lookat502 8 років тому

    Very enjoyable to watch.

  • @SatoshiMatrix1
    @SatoshiMatrix1 8 років тому +1

    I like Karen's shirt. I wonder if she's thinking about changing it.

    • @ericbazinga
      @ericbazinga 8 років тому

      Wait... is that Brock on her shirt?

    • @SatoshiMatrix1
      @SatoshiMatrix1 8 років тому

      +ericbazinga Oy......no. That's Trent from Daria. The guy who came up with band names constantly and was always talking about changing the name. Hence my joke.

  • @xyanide1986
    @xyanide1986 8 років тому

    Just 3?! I am totally doing this on a sunday afternoon.

  • @Gooberslot
    @Gooberslot 8 років тому +1

    You solder at such a low temperature. I guess that shows what you can get by with when you have a decent iron. If I tried that with mine I'd probably destroy something waiting for the solder to melt.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      A good soldering station makes soldering a joy. Indeed, you can set a reasonably low temperature, because the station will sense the tip temperature and feed in the right amount of heat to maintain that temperature, no matter the size of the joint you're soldering (which is drawing away heat). Your goal should be to make a joint in about 2 seconds.

  • @CelluloidRacer2
    @CelluloidRacer2 8 років тому

    Editing tip: you can cut more time out while he solders LOTS of pins (3:08 - 6:15)

  • @BaratheonBC
    @BaratheonBC 8 років тому

    i would likw to see more episodes of Ben lifting truck tires

  • @AleksandrMotsjonov
    @AleksandrMotsjonov 8 років тому +1

    so, I missed it. What type of wire does he uses for these purposes exactly?

    • @TanjoGalbi
      @TanjoGalbi 8 років тому +1

      +Aleksandr Motsjonov He called it his "fine wire" But he used single stranded wire (referred to as solid strand in his caption @7:15) so it's less flexible, keeps its shape/position better and no stray strands to cause shorts.

  • @caddyguy5369
    @caddyguy5369 8 років тому

    That guitar sounds pretty sweet.

  • @tekrat
    @tekrat 8 років тому

    The 6532 ICs (RIOT chip) came in 1 MHz and 2 MHz versions. Which did the Atari 2600 use? Would there be any difference in performance if you substituted on for the other in a 2600?

  • @dj505Gaming
    @dj505Gaming 8 років тому

    Getting perfect solder points is so satisfying :D

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      +dj505Gaming It is. But this video shows rather poor solder joints.

    • @dj505Gaming
      @dj505Gaming 8 років тому

      +Antonio Tejada Well, as long as they hold, it's fine with me :P He did say though that he was adding more solder than he needed to make it easier to get wires attached properly.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      +dj505Gaming It's not just about holding. With excess solder, it becomes difficult to actually inspect the joint. Especially when working with old parts like those ICs, it's actually possible to have the lead passing completely through the blob of solder, but the oxides on the lead completely preventing the solder from sticking to the lead. (I'd worry about this with those wires that he just melted the insulation off of, rather than stripping.)

    • @dj505Gaming
      @dj505Gaming 8 років тому

      +Antonio Tejada That's true. Oxidation could definitely be a problem. Just to be safe, I'd wipe the leads down with something, rubbing alcohol perhaps. That would get rid of oxidation. I would also just use minimal solder at first, then re-flow it and add more when I need to connect the wires. More effort, but cleaner points.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 8 років тому

      ***** Alcohol is great at removing oils and assorted gunk (so cleaning parts with it before and after soldering is very good practice), but it does nothing to remove oxidation. That's the job of flux. The flux core in electronics solder is enough for clean, new components, but for heavily oxidized components, additional flux is all but essential. Flux always helps, so it's not a bad idea to routinely use a flux pen or brush to add a bit extra.
      As for reflow soldering: Yes, it can be a great method, but since you're not necessarily adding solder, you should always add extra flux before reflowing.

  • @TheTurnipKing
    @TheTurnipKing 8 років тому

    17:02 What might be a better idea would be to add a socket, and solder to the socket rather than directly to the chip, since it leaves the chip unmolested if you suspect you may want to remove it later. Of course, that adds vertical height, so it's a trade-off.

    • @0xbenedikt
      @0xbenedikt 8 років тому

      Indeed I thought the same

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX 15 днів тому

    This is awesome, can you share the schematics?

  • @DiyintheGhetto
    @DiyintheGhetto 8 років тому +1

    Hello Where can i find a schematic and parts list to make my own?I found a lot online but Not really on what i need or how to do it correctly?

    • @element14presents
      @element14presents  8 років тому +2

      We post the files we have to github. You can find them by episode here.
      bit.ly/2dcULuo

    • @DiyintheGhetto
      @DiyintheGhetto 8 років тому +2

      Thank you Ben i always wanted to make one Ever sense i got my 2600 :)

  • @vini1277
    @vini1277 8 років тому

    Oh yeah please never change the end music, I love it.
    What is the name of it BTW?

  • @capstasher
    @capstasher 8 років тому +8

    I have a soldering fetish now