AMERICA'S BIG MISTAKE: Watershed Democracy REJECTED!

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2022
  • Permaculture instructor Andrew Millison explains how the USA missed the opportunity in 1878 to create political boundaries based on watershed boundaries, and discusses the multi-faceted implications of that super big mistake.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 611

  • @finnagin
    @finnagin Рік тому +559

    As someone who works in the environmental field in the midwest, so many problems we face daily are because watersheds are split up between rural municipalities that can't agree on anything.
    It's such a divisive system. Yet as soon as they can agree to work together, there's so much change and hope for the future.

    • @UsenameTakenWasTaken
      @UsenameTakenWasTaken Рік тому +35

      Nothing gets my rural folks together like the threat of feds... existing...
      Meanwhile, they've forgotten where the term redneck actually comes from and lick their bosses' boots clean every day.
      Pro tip, I can be armed, yet don't need to fear the feds because I'm not openly advocating for domestic terrorism against my political opponents.
      Wish my neighbors would take the hint...

    • @billbradleymusic
      @billbradleymusic Рік тому +1

      LoL yeah bureaucracy at it's finest! Everyone gets a say!

    • @billbradleymusic
      @billbradleymusic Рік тому +2

      @@UsenameTakenWasTaken fucking s right

    • @LeCharles07
      @LeCharles07 Рік тому +4

      China and India are having a disagreement over water and it could potentially cause a war. There's a lot of logic in this.

    • @Dustin-mi2fi
      @Dustin-mi2fi Рік тому

      My idea is to use prison labor for agroforestry and recycling and when people are free give them a 3person canoe house that is combined w modern tech and recycling centers. And also give them 3 of the chinampas or 15 of the newly created chinampa farms.
      Money for paying for health treatments and making sure people recycle and care for the land

  • @brokenvessel4171
    @brokenvessel4171 Рік тому +244

    In the late 80's, I was an appliance salsman. Asked the front load washer machine rep why we could not sell their washers compared to top load? His responce rocked my world and affected me forever. He said, " Energy is to cheap here". "In Europe they have their front loaders down to a teaspoon of detergent, 2/3rds less water, no transmission, reversing electric motor, etc. Built to use the least amount of energy because energy is expensive there".

    • @dungeonmaster6292
      @dungeonmaster6292 Рік тому +8

      Expensive

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 Рік тому +6

      The same front load tech you're saying was in Europe has long been available in the US too.. many people just can't afford them or don't want to pay the extra money.

    • @TyrianHaze
      @TyrianHaze Рік тому +16

      @@chickenfishhybrid44 Yes, but it stands to reason that people are more willing to spend money on more expensive technology if it means they will be saving money in the long run when they have to pay more for energy and resources. Just as people probably don't care about their home being oriented to take advantage of the sun's position until they start seeing the 700 dollar a month electric bills to keep their home cool during summer.

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 Рік тому +3

      @@TyrianHaze yeah... my point is the washers with that tech are available in the US and some people do buy them. I have a Bosch front load thats something like 15 years old, I actually am looking to replace it soon. It's been a pretty good washer once they replaced the first one after about a year that was essentially a lemon with lots of issues. I've also had to replace the drain pump multiple times and as usual parts for Euro products are spendy.
      Some people don't have the extra money up front to buy the more advanced and efficient washer and some people just don't care or don't really think about it even if they could afford it. The amount of saving on energy will take a long time to recoup i would think. Even in places like Europe where it's more expensive.

    • @alejohernandez75
      @alejohernandez75 Рік тому +1

      So your saying that it would be better that energy was expensive in the US because it would force Americans to buy more expensive energy efficient machines. You sound like a Democrat.

  • @petrapewpew
    @petrapewpew Рік тому +208

    God damn it, I argued about the house orientation issue in an architecture class once and was scoffed at for suggesting we could do urban planning better just by designing for solar optimization. Nice to see it explained here.

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +59

      Yeah, it's a real head knocker how architects do not integrate passive solar design into everything they do!

    • @itzrazer9386
      @itzrazer9386 Рік тому +5

      @@amillison I for sure will!

    • @haydenmaines5905
      @haydenmaines5905 Рік тому +4

      @@amillison That's so weird! I first learnt about passive solar design FROM an architecture UA-cam channel (30x40, I believe is the channel name)

    • @LeCharles07
      @LeCharles07 Рік тому +25

      Modern architects kind of suck at their job. They use materials that look good but have no function. Modern apartment blocks get cold af at night because they have no ability to retain heat from the sun. Add to that the general disregard shown to the natural surroundings and it makes sense that our grid is so inefficient.

    • @marthamryglod291
      @marthamryglod291 Рік тому

      Samsies

  • @RA-rf4nz
    @RA-rf4nz Рік тому +290

    Perhaps it would have passed the US Senate if he had simply called it "Watershed Republic"?

    • @lukesutton4135
      @lukesutton4135 Рік тому +17

      People would still call it a "democracy" and not a federal watershed republic.

    • @UsenameTakenWasTaken
      @UsenameTakenWasTaken Рік тому

      Kind of amazed at people trying to use America being a republic and not a true democracy as a gotcha against non-republicans.
      They fear the tyranny of the majority so much that they're totally ready to head full throttle deeper into a tyrannical minority rule.

    • @RA-rf4nz
      @RA-rf4nz Рік тому +24

      @@lukesutton4135 So be it. However, my point is that the 1880 US Senate had a Republican majority with animosity towards Democratic party still fresh from the US Civil War. Who cares what term was used afterwards. Having taken formal university courses in geomorphology, J.W. Powell was indeed ahead of his time in understanding the natural resources of the USA. United Watersheds of America would work well for me too.

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +119

      It was lobbying by the railroads that "derailed" the initiative (pun intended :-). They wanted the land commoditized into squares for their purposes.

    • @adamgower2182
      @adamgower2182 Рік тому +10

      @@amillison this is important info, why are things how they are, is it intentional or ignorance,

  • @miguel5785
    @miguel5785 Рік тому +105

    Abundant cheap energy is what allowed us to build such inefficient societies. If as some say the age of abundance is coming to an end, these teachings are essential. Thanks for sharing!

    • @himanshusingh5214
      @himanshusingh5214 Рік тому +10

      We still have a lot of unused solar energy. And with a lot of energy, anything can be done, including filling desert with lakes and mining iron out of average soil.

    • @YouGuessIGuess
      @YouGuessIGuess Рік тому +13

      It's interesting to imagine a United States in which large quantities of coal and oil were never found. The Gulf Coast would be much healthier, for one thing.

    • @WanderTheNomad
      @WanderTheNomad Рік тому +12

      If only we could be as efficent as possible while also having abundant cheap resources. Too bad our psychology prevents this from happening.

    • @M33f3r
      @M33f3r Рік тому +7

      @@WanderTheNomad well if we got rid of the few who parasitically keep the rest of us divided for their own benefit we would have a world of abundance and nature

    • @dustinabc
      @dustinabc Рік тому +1

      Society is very efficient. It's governments that are inefficient, and then they impose their rules on society.
      You'll notice that the governments that restrict the freedom of the people most are the ones that do the most environmental destruction.

  • @carlotta4th
    @carlotta4th Рік тому +98

    As someone who lives in high desert I definitely experienced this firsthand. I had one house E/W facing--never again. You'd BURN trying to enter the door in the summer, and we might as well not have had windows because they always had to have thick shades blocking the sun. Next time I moved I refused to consider anything but N/S facing. The light is gentler, and the temperature is eons better.

    • @EricEllingwood
      @EricEllingwood Рік тому +2

      Have you ever heard of earthships they actually have a greenhouse in the front which buffers the summer sunlight while allowing the winter sun to travel deep into the residence

  • @waylonk2453
    @waylonk2453 Рік тому +339

    Dang, the idea of Watershed Democracy seems really compelling to me! It seems to have lots of run-on effects. I suppose that the basic principle is working with mother nature rather than against her.

    • @WanderTheNomad
      @WanderTheNomad Рік тому +31

      Working with mother nature is essentially working with what *IS.* When we reject that, we are basically rejecting reality and substituting our own, usually to our detriment.

    • @billbradleymusic
      @billbradleymusic Рік тому

      I'd suppose such a genius to know proper grammar.

    • @billbradleymusic
      @billbradleymusic Рік тому +3

      It's too bad that people without forethought are to be treated as equal. If you get flooded you move. If you don't get rain you move. There's no such thing as equity and equality is of the fittest. Get sum!

    • @TAP7a
      @TAP7a Рік тому +8

      @@billbradleymusic small minded attitude right there

    • @barrettozier5564
      @barrettozier5564 Рік тому +7

      @@billbradleymusic ya seriously dude. Did you even watch this video or did you just come on here to give an ignorant remark. Nobody likes someone who’s just there to be a problem or point out problems without genuinely wanting to engage the issue to ultimately solve it.

  • @russelllukenbill
    @russelllukenbill Рік тому +14

    "But my railroads!"
    Cries in Robber Barron.

  • @banksarenotyourfriends
    @banksarenotyourfriends Рік тому +150

    8:30 This is the same reason why many Middle Eastern buildings have domes - half of the dome is always in the shade, so there's a hot side and a cold side, which creates air currents within the building that average out the temperature in each room. Pitched roofs are such a bad design for so many warmer climates.

    • @mishkahappy3839
      @mishkahappy3839 Рік тому +8

      Monolithic dome homes!

    • @nuckels188
      @nuckels188 Рік тому

      @@mishkahappy3839 i want to see the dome of the rock in a cookie cutter development in florida

    • @MarkusAldawn
      @MarkusAldawn Рік тому

      Can a cone work like a dome for this purpose?

    • @sadrien
      @sadrien Рік тому

      @@MarkusAldawn less of a cone would be shaded, so probably not.

    • @longiusaescius2537
      @longiusaescius2537 9 місяців тому

      Interesting

  • @mars54mars54
    @mars54mars54 Рік тому +99

    Such an excellent video. Crime of intentional blindness these days... so much is now known, yet not a single thing about planning and construction has changed.

    • @billbradleymusic
      @billbradleymusic Рік тому +2

      You sound as if you're in the trades.

    • @pitchblacknext
      @pitchblacknext 7 місяців тому

      The USA simultaneously has access to all the resources and information we could ever want. We KNOW the best way to do things yet simultaneously decide to not do it and not use the knowledge and resources and continue to do shit the same as its always been done. For no other reasons than its cheaper, easier, and doing things different would upset the rich minority who unfortunately buy the influence of people who are in positions to change things before the majority can even have a seat at the table.

  • @davidjames4915
    @davidjames4915 Рік тому +8

    Arguably the mistake has its origins even earlier with the Treaty of 1818 that set the boundary between the US and what became Canada along the 49th parallel rather than along the Mississippi/Hudson Bay continental divide as it had nominally been before then. With an international border along a drainage divide, it would have strengthened the case for internal boundaries along watersheds. But with that nice straight northern border along a line of latitude, it becomes a lot easier for the straight line map drawers to continue doing so for state boundaries.

  • @BlakeWoodruff
    @BlakeWoodruff Рік тому +35

    I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has thought of this as a solution to water-scarcity and gerrymandering.

    • @lorddane4147
      @lorddane4147 Рік тому +2

      I mean gerrymandering can be fixed in a variety of ways. But this could fix it as long as electoral district are removed or aren't drawn by politician and those in power and instead drawn by an independent group.

    • @mattkon7675
      @mattkon7675 2 місяці тому

      gerrymandering is good for business 🤪

  • @hadenpone7936
    @hadenpone7936 Рік тому +31

    J. W. Powell is the the author of the book titled “The Exploration of the Colorado River and it’s Canyons” published in 1961 too. It’s an unabridged and unaltered republication of the work first published by Flood and Vincent in 1895 under the title of “Canyons of the Colorado”. Also it’s Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 61-2228

  • @ashfaqahmed267
    @ashfaqahmed267 Рік тому +15

    Lesson I've gained is that living in harmony with the nature is the key to our survival

  • @futurecaredesign
    @futurecaredesign Рік тому +18

    "If you've ever wondered what evil is? It is stupidity on a large scale."
    -Bill Mollison, 1983

  • @bobnewkirk7003
    @bobnewkirk7003 Рік тому +13

    I don't know if its been mentioned elsewhere, but a big undersold point of this argument is that humans tend to settle along waterways, so current states with a huge populations would naturally be divided up, as each watershed would take with it its portion of the population. As a quick example California has been in talks about dividing the state, and a quick look at google maps indicates that LA, SFC/Sac, and North Cali would all make for pretty compelling divisions.

  • @Jesiahjesiah
    @Jesiahjesiah Рік тому +18

    This is the video I've been looking for! Here in the NW, some of us speak of the Bioregion of Cascadia - the watershed and connected bioregion that arguably begins at the source tributaries of the Columbia River, through western BC, and down along western Washington, Oregon, and possibly northern colonial California. It's about prioritizing the ecosystem of the land and it's Indigenous population. One great example of how this might work is the active effort to return the salmon spawn in the Columbia back to where it was only 100 years, before dams - as far as Alberta. Doing so would be good for the river, and allow the tribes to live sustainably as their grandparents did before them.
    Of course, every other day someone thinks it's about secession for the sake of political upheaval (usually a "Western Idaho" type) and completely misses the point of using multi-lateral governance as a tool for sustainability and justice. This video will hopefully be a good primer for some of those folks.

    • @willbass2869
      @willbass2869 Рік тому

      "colonial California"?
      ....oh brother, you're THAT guy, aren't you

  • @Cam_two
    @Cam_two Рік тому +41

    Wow - this is an alternate time line I wanna be in. Imagine America designed with this level of connection to nature. Your Amazing Andrew! 🌟

    • @pongop
      @pongop Рік тому

      Me too. Have you read Ecotopia by Ernest Callenbach?

  • @theeggandi6391
    @theeggandi6391 Рік тому +13

    When I visited New Mexico I saw a number of old Spanish land grant properties. Each one has access to the local drainage, so they are long narrow strips of land from the top of the hill to the bottom.

    • @dianalesueur2297
      @dianalesueur2297 Рік тому +2

      I lived in Valencia County 30 years a 1/2 mile from Rio Grande River and worked at the Courthouse. There are irrigation ditches everywhere along the entire Rio Grande River for farm and ranch usage. They have to pay for the water and it is all controlled with small gates by the Water Conservancy Dept. It is an efficient system that was set up by early Spanish settlers. But with ongoing years of SW drought the Rio Grande is seriously suffering. The water is rationed very carefully and the problems are serious.

  • @MrsRoper2015
    @MrsRoper2015 Рік тому +106

    I had no idea they even considered that. Thanks for the history lesson! If only suburbs that are evolving used the sun orientation the the planning phase....

    • @weenisw
      @weenisw Рік тому +16

      The suburbs are the most inefficient layout for living and so they waste tons of energy and resources. Sun orientation is trivial compared to the pile of huge problems: car dependency, everything built far apart, stores illegal in neighborhoods so they are too far away, multiunit dwellings literally illegal to build most places (single family ONLY zoning), 10x longer runs of every utility, oversized dwellings w huge heat/cool loads, monoculture lawns laden with pesticides for no food yield, mowers are unnecessary fossil burning and their emissions are under regulated so they emit worse than cars, so many more roads and other required infrastructure is needed that it had to be subsidized to first build and the taxes don’t cover the maintenance and future replacement effectively creating a ponzi scheme.

  • @professorofpi
    @professorofpi Рік тому +5

    sobbing ur so right. ur sooooooooo right I think abt this all the time it makes me sososo sad. I'm gonna go cry again.

  • @GoodLuckGardens
    @GoodLuckGardens Рік тому +20

    I live in Douglas County Oregon and if you look on the Map you can see the county lines perfectly correspond with the Umpqua Watershed. Be curious to know if any other counties have draw lines like these in America (hope we're not the only ones). Big thanks to the settlers who proactively drew up these lines with that intention. But then again plenty of gridded properties throughout the county.

    • @kurtklingbeil6900
      @kurtklingbeil6900 9 місяців тому

      In mountainous terrain, watersheds dictate and enforce the organizational structures.
      It's just too hard and expensive to defy them .
      On the flat lands the colonialist mentality reigns supreme!
      Simplistic reductionist - straight lines and little squares - based on the model of drunken aristocratic @$$holes drawing lines on maps of Afrika and violently imposing those arbitrary divisions
      Even within the grid system, the land developers and municipal planners had the latitude to incorporate intelligent design into subdivision design, into house orientation, into passive house building codes etc
      They negligently defied all of that - with rare exceptions - and did stuff the shitty, autocratic, indifferent, cheap way to benefit the developers

  • @yosconisi
    @yosconisi Рік тому +5

    Definitely one of the best UA-cam Channels I've found recently; so interesting!

  • @malirabbit6228
    @malirabbit6228 Рік тому +8

    By golly wow, dude! I’ve never heard of anything so innovative , logically and making so much sense! I’m subscribing and sending this video to others! Where were you in 1878 ! ! !

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +2

      I'll have to consult a psychic on that one. My best guess is that I was at the eclipse: coloradoencyclopedia.org/article/great-eclipse-1878😂.

  • @hashkeeper
    @hashkeeper Рік тому +39

    i love this channel SO MUCH WTF 1:16 look at that beautiful map wow, ive never seen it drawn that way 4:33 oddly enough i'm also seeing conceptual overlaps with the channel not just bikes, where the content creator discusses how we buy smaller plots of land that form communities, destroying community say in its development. worth checking out the channel to see what i mean

  • @michaelm8265
    @michaelm8265 Рік тому +11

    The title might be click-baity, but the ideas and science behind this are very very sound. Your points are so valuable and there is so much more to say about this from an economics perspective (you touched upon internalizing costs, for example). Hopefully videos like these will help people get informed and organized, and holding their community leaders and higher ups accountable for reform, for which there is a dire, dire need. Thanks!

  • @FiL.
    @FiL. Рік тому +9

    The official postal abbreviation for Louisiana is LA not LS… interesting map thanks for making it. Great video, keep up the good work.

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +7

      Oh man! I knew I'd mess at least one of those up! Sorry LA

  • @romanstefaniv8535
    @romanstefaniv8535 Рік тому +4

    Wow! You voiced my thoughts! I have been thinking about all this ideas for long time. Good job pal!

  • @bravejango12
    @bravejango12 Рік тому +6

    I like that you have the State of Jefferson.

  • @Sheashay101
    @Sheashay101 Рік тому +49

    Mistake, or intentional money grab?

  • @davidbryden7904
    @davidbryden7904 Рік тому +7

    America's big mistake?! Singular?!
    Give US(A) a little more credit than that!
    We been f#$%in' things up for a long time now, partner!!! 🤷‍♂️ 😜I'm really enjoying your work! 🙏✌️💚🌲🌏☮️

  • @cakeabee3804
    @cakeabee3804 Рік тому +7

    Great video!

  • @Thoughmuchistaken
    @Thoughmuchistaken Рік тому +9

    lol ".....BUT SHIT MAN" Amen. And today in Ontario we opened up protected agricultural/undeveloped land to be turned into housing. I'm sure that since we've chosen to build homes on this formerly protected land in the greenbelt, the homes will be built to passive standards while using lessons like those in this video...

    • @Muljinn
      @Muljinn Рік тому

      And I’ve got some ocean front property in Saskatchewan to sell you…

  • @asktheanimals
    @asktheanimals Рік тому +36

    This is fascinating! Thanks! I never knew that history of Powell. I grew up in a passive solar house in one of the rectangle states, CO. I always felt the home designs in this state were ridiculous for not incorporating the abundant sun we have here.

    • @nomaderic
      @nomaderic Рік тому +3

      Colorado sun is something serious. I'm from south texas and live in Colorado now. It always blows my mind that it can be in the 30s and that bright sun will have you hot and in a t-shirt lol

  • @francesfellows7717
    @francesfellows7717 Рік тому +7

    Andy, do you know if there is any movement/ network/ political party trying to revive watershed democracy? It would help out in the geremandering and constant redistricting that hold some states in gridlock.

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому

      Hi Francis Fellows! I don't know of a particular party trying to do that. Hope you are well ❤️‍🩹

    • @Chris-io2cs
      @Chris-io2cs Рік тому

      Unfortunetely I don't see the country that can't commit to the metric system agreeing to a mass change in 150+ year old borders and the corresponding shift in resource allocation any time soon. And I sort of don't blame them. It's called a mistake for a reason. Not matter how cool it'd be it's a bit too late to go back now unless on a really small scale for certain placed.

  • @jayski9410
    @jayski9410 Рік тому +6

    It's interesting that even when you draw the watershed states, California and Texas are still pretty recognizable. And I agree that solar orientation should be key in architectural design. I live in Los Angeles and have no air conditioning (and no need for it) while I have friends that spend $800 a month to run their air conditioning during the summer.

  • @lizstokes9091
    @lizstokes9091 Рік тому +5

    Well said!!

  • @cva987
    @cva987 Рік тому +4

    Facinating! Thank you for posting!

  • @karllivesonearth
    @karllivesonearth Рік тому +7

    Wow. I would love to participate in creating that world. Thank you for your inspiration and wonderful speaking!

  • @twigandroot
    @twigandroot Рік тому +6

    I love how you ended this! great comic relief

  • @phill2065
    @phill2065 Рік тому +7

    I definitely learnt something new today, thank you for this!

  • @gtmunch
    @gtmunch Рік тому +2

    I appreciate how you snuck Jefferson on the map “JF”.

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому

      I copied that map from the link in the description and they had the unlabelled territory there. Being from Oregon I knew exactly what letters needed to go there :-0

  • @professorofpi
    @professorofpi Рік тому +5

    wait until the new urbanists see this!!!! they're gonna go insane

  • @quantumfzx
    @quantumfzx 10 місяців тому +3

    The way you illustrate your point in the video is really amazing. Good job. Love all of your work.

    • @amillison
      @amillison  10 місяців тому

      Thank you so much, I appreciate that. :)

  • @MegaSnail1
    @MegaSnail1 Рік тому +7

    Wow. Thank you so much for sharing this prospective. I contend that if we could go back to that original plan it would not only make our communities more sustainable it would disrupt the political tribalism that is being cultivated by corporate interests. Again thank you!

  • @quinn3334
    @quinn3334 Рік тому +7

    great video as always

  • @ranewanders8147
    @ranewanders8147 Рік тому +2

    As a traveler for over 3 years, can confirm nearly all cities look the exact same
    It's kind of lame how every new city I enter it already looks familiar, especially when they've been monopolized of local businesses

  • @nataliekazful
    @nataliekazful Рік тому +7

    The irony is that when they decided to impose the grid like system they probably thought it was efficient 😅

    • @ioannisalexiou7227
      @ioannisalexiou7227 Рік тому +4

      It is very efficient for wealth extraction, not for conservation or wealth generation

  • @absolutelynoone5776
    @absolutelynoone5776 Рік тому +2

    You are right we must come together and restore the water table across the world and hydrate Gia

  • @le-m0nke
    @le-m0nke Рік тому +2

    Your s-bomb at the end caught me off guard xD

  • @hhwippedcream
    @hhwippedcream Рік тому +4

    Awesome material! Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @johnkossen4821
    @johnkossen4821 Рік тому +4

    This is fascinating.

  • @jizhimushui
    @jizhimushui Рік тому +1

    "Crime of ignorance", well put.

  • @buildingbrenham
    @buildingbrenham Рік тому +7

    I'm not sure if I wanted to see this or not. Great info, love your videos, but dang, what a huge missed opportunity. I'm so disappointed we screwed this up from the start. Even worse, all builder/developers know about E/W orientation, but they're still building massive residential developments with only 50% of the houses on the E/W axis. It's no longer a crime of ignorance; it's shamefully negligent.

    • @one_field
      @one_field Рік тому +2

      Seconding this. Most of these videos leave me with a sense of excitement and optimism for how we're learning to fix and improve everything. This one, instead, generated frustration and disappointment that we're stuck in a system that was knowingly mismanaged. It's easier to forgive people of the past when we can pretend they didn't know of better alternatives. Here's a case where they looked at the better option and decided, "nope." & we have no way to fix this one; everything's too thoroughly entrenched now...

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +4

      @@one_field I know, I usually leave it on a positive message. But just look at all my videos as a single body of work, and this is just the bad news that had to be explained in order to understand the basis of the problem so we know where we're starting from with the solutions.

    • @one_field
      @one_field Рік тому +2

      @@amillison Your videos are fantastic, and I'm not really criticizing this one :-) It's an important point of history that we've never been taught, and you did a great job explaining it. I do love how most of your message is so positive and inspiring, though; so many channels discussing sustainability, ecosystems, and water cycles are just awash in doom and gloom. Yours stands out by being so upbeat that I can share it with people who usually refuse to listen to such topics. You've helped convince them that it's worth changing how they manage their land (here in central Virginia), so that has real impact. Thank you for that!

  • @danielb3573
    @danielb3573 Рік тому +2

    2:28 the dot here made me think my sceen had a pixel die

  • @stephanygates6491
    @stephanygates6491 Рік тому +4

    Why do our leaders always disregard brilliance like that of J W Powell? Watershed Democracy would have created unbreakable states. The most essential public service is water safety, delivery and treatment. Thank you for bringing this story to light.

    • @cjclark1208
      @cjclark1208 Рік тому

      Profit, consolidation for a few influential entities, privatization. All the cynical reasons is the reasons why.

  • @ryanfitzalan8634
    @ryanfitzalan8634 Рік тому +1

    Love the vids, keep this content coming we need it to better prepare for the future.

  • @TheDragonRelic
    @TheDragonRelic Рік тому +4

    We must make a video of Solarpunk make a video on Solarpunk and brand yourself as a Solarpunk channel!

  • @Job.Well.Done_01
    @Job.Well.Done_01 Рік тому +8

    I love you for making this !
    Shoutout to all of the geography and U.S. history fam out there!

  • @Lloh_Rnd
    @Lloh_Rnd Рік тому +1

    Amazing work Andrew, thank you for everything 🙏

  • @Maria-ok7oe
    @Maria-ok7oe Рік тому +5

    i grew up in a well designed house. We had windows to the north, east and south and the roof was so low, that in the winter the sun would shine inside throughout the whole day in winter, but only in early morning in summer. Every side of the house had a door which could be opened when it was too hot and it would create an aircurrent through the house. the building material was wood, so it insulated very easily, but could cool down fast as well and the roof had such an angle, that we could place solar panels on it, which helped with energy. For very cold winters, we also had a wood stove which we could also use to kook on if we wanted to. With all this, we almost didn't use any energy at all, making it possible to save up the money and use it for other things.

  • @SmartMass
    @SmartMass Рік тому +15

    Are there examples of a geomorphological city? I would be curious to visit one to see the potential benefits.

    • @t0manderson571
      @t0manderson571 Рік тому +10

      Old world European cities.

    • @TheEmbrio
      @TheEmbrio Рік тому +4

      Quebec, canada. O some degree, since The French land division there was thin strips perpendicular to. Rivers

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +6

      Village Homes in Davis California is on flat ground, but shows how a contemporary development can be placed on a passive solar grid with water harvesting integrated throughout.

    • @wktorzjawinski2052
      @wktorzjawinski2052 Рік тому

      Dear @@amillison ,
      forwarded from ⬜🔍
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_States_Got_Their_Shapes ¶

    • @Jesus-qv5sw
      @Jesus-qv5sw Рік тому

      Maybe Tenochtitlan

  • @DLKUNATHIII
    @DLKUNATHIII Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the bit on passive solar, as an architecture student, this was one of the most basic principles, design to the environment, not around it

  • @freealter
    @freealter Рік тому +1

    I’ve been thinking about this idea for so long I’m just glad I’m not the only one

  • @jenniferspring8741
    @jenniferspring8741 Рік тому +1

    Really awesome information to share, and as usual a cool presentation. Thanks again Andrew! All of us viewers will be figuring out how to right this wrong. Education first!

  • @gardenshine.
    @gardenshine. Рік тому +2

    Fascinating stuff! Watershed state boundaries seems really cool, wish we had more of this foresight. I do however think you're discounting that there's a lot of value to grids in providing simplified clear boundaries, especially for a time before 1900. Part of the reason the Midwest was developed so much quicker than southern states is that the square platting made property claims much easier to establish (its part of why Abraham Lincoln's family moved from Kentucky to Illinois). Additionally in an urban context where land is scarce, grids are absolutely essential because of how well they can fit more buildings in the same space and facilitate transportation.

    • @user-cx9nc4pj8w
      @user-cx9nc4pj8w Рік тому +2

      Yeah. Grids are great in heaps of contexts, especially on the small scale in cities, where it's just more efficient. Watershed Democracy would be great for the Western states, but the combination of high rainfall/great lakes/ocean makes it irrelevant to the East

    • @john3_14-17
      @john3_14-17 Рік тому +1

      Grids are just a shape just like circles are. It all comes down to context. Same thing with watershed states.
      For example, the Susquehanna state (labeled PA on this map) doesn’t make sense as an entity due to the fact that the Susquehanna is non-navigable. You can’t send a barge down it, the river is too shallow and rocky. So any trade destined for the sea here will flow into Philly and Baltimore - large ports on navigable waterways. In this way, the Susquehanna is a divider - those east of it ship to Philly, those west of it to Baltimore (or other places like Pittsburgh and the New York system). Since trade is essential for civilization, one can argue for an entirely different geopolitical configuration. You can do the same with fossil fuel deposits, classically arable land, etc. And of course there are human factors as well, identity, sentiment, culture, political ideas, etc. Since our civilization is dependent on a variety of factors, not merely clean water, we should use our entire context to form political arrangements, not merely one factor.
      For this reason the best way to encourage good water usage is to change the culture rather than the governance. The governance arises from the culture, and the culture from the religion.

  • @jmac217x
    @jmac217x 6 місяців тому +1

    Almost all of the issues with my county's river happen upstream and out-of-county. No way to achieve anything when the dam is 5 counties away.

  • @douglasnevill1273
    @douglasnevill1273 Рік тому +5

    Wow. If we could only do that one over again. But we pretty much inherited the cities that were here already the roads were already laid out. :-)

  • @atomicsmith
    @atomicsmith Рік тому

    I had no idea this has ever been proposed! Thanks for another great video.

  • @mattholsen7060
    @mattholsen7060 Рік тому +1

    in 1885 there was a rebellion by the Metis, in Saskatchewan, against the Canadian Government. The first act in that rebellion was years earlier, when Metis chased off some surveyors who were implementing a grid. The Metis registered only ownership of riverfront, and that ownership included water rights. No one bothered to assert ownership of the land far from the river. The Metis weren't sure what the surveyors were up to, but it seemed likely they were planning to establish a new system of land ownership, the better to take the Metis' land.

  • @1Lightdancer
    @1Lightdancer Рік тому +2

    Brilliant, as usual - thank you Andy!

  • @watcher8582
    @watcher8582 Рік тому +2

    You could phrase it as "AMERICA'S BIGGEST TECHNICAL MISTAKE!"

  • @kentuckygreg4725
    @kentuckygreg4725 9 місяців тому +1

    I especially liked your passive house orientation presentation. My house faces ssw and in the winter on a sunny day I get as much heat from the sun as I can. It's crazy that builders don't go more for passive features in a house, it's free. Nobody really talks about this, just energy consumption.

  • @frite2002
    @frite2002 Рік тому +4

    Notably, this puts New York in the state of New Jersey

  • @designosis
    @designosis Рік тому +8

    Great video! You could expand even more on how indigenous territories were/are shaped along fluid geomorphic ecological boundaries like this for millennia before these ecologically illiterate patterns of development were imposed upon the land and the peoples through settler colonial violence. The peoples here before conquest were the visionaries. Powell’s observations of their watershed cultural organization certainly informed his proposal. If we return to some form of bioregional governance we should center indigenous knowledge in our path to remembering our way forward out of the mess that’s been created over the last 500 years😊

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +6

      Definitely! Stay tuned for our next upcoming video where we visit an indigenous Hawaiian community who are restoring their traditional watershed sysytem.

  • @seanthedevlin
    @seanthedevlin Рік тому +1

    Sh*t man! Outstanding video! Thanks so much, Andrew. 🙏

  • @weenisw
    @weenisw Рік тому +5

    The beginning was interesting but it transitioned into a site layout design nitpick. It’s not wrong per se but it misses the forest for the trees. If you care about saving energy and harnessing nature in building design then considering a suburban layout is futile to begin with. Humanity has never conceived of any more wasteful living arrangement

  • @foxprojects247
    @foxprojects247 Рік тому +1

    Your videos, in content and quality, never cease to impress me!

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +1

      Happy to hear that! Thanks for watching! :)

  • @oxelaroost
    @oxelaroost Рік тому +1

    WOW... just completely stumbled upon your channel.. this is the 1st video.. before i've even seen any other yet.. i'm subscribed and hit the bell..
    Guess what i'm going to binge watch this coming weekend. .. . Thank you for an awesome video..
    P.S. i'm sharing it with friends and family too..

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому

      Welcome aboard! Thanks for subscribing, there's much more content on the way!

  • @alperenbaser7952
    @alperenbaser7952 Рік тому +2

    Can you also make videos about reforestation permaculture and agroforestation in Turkey?

  • @thejasvim4402
    @thejasvim4402 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for simple narrative, a good argument that shud be applicable worldwide

  • @joejackson6205
    @joejackson6205 Рік тому +1

    I so wish that people would realize that conservationnism, the wise and judicial use of resources, is a central tenant of Federalism and conservatism. Powell had many supporters in the Republican seats of the Congress during Grants term, but they were overruled by the factions in the east that just wanted to get the masses of poor immigants out of their towns. So, they opted for the fastest way to settle these areas after the civil war. They figured any problems that came up could be solved by future generations. They didn't even consider the damage that would be done, and the legal precedents that would be done in this rush to settle these lands.
    The great thing about watershed conservation management is that by starting to practice what Powell tried to do then, the watershed environments can recover. It does not take a lot of government money, just local governments and individuals coordinating their efforts and activities up and down the watersheds for them to recover. Starting with a practice of for every 1 tree harvested, 3 trees of fruit or nut bearing varieties, like The American Chestnut tree or apple and pear trees, be planted. Yes, state and county lines are drawn, but coordination across those lines can, and must be made.

  • @ablanccanvas
    @ablanccanvas Рік тому +4

    I wonder how Europe etc. compares with their political boundaries/watersheds and did some of that change with conflict/wars/disease etc.

    • @amillison
      @amillison  Рік тому +1

      Their fields are certainly not on a perfect grid, and there are a lot of hedgerows in between from what I've seen. I'd be curious to learn more and I'm sure it differs from region to region.

    • @ricos1497
      @ricos1497 Рік тому +1

      @@amillison it varies by country, significantly. The UK is pretty much owned by billionaires anyway, and developers have carved up the landscape against every natural law going: "That flood plain looks a fine place for 200 houses". I guess regionally it sort of makes sense, but it has been subject to gerrymandering over the years too. Either way, it's entirely overridden at a local level, and everything good that might have existed at one point has been devoured in the last few decades of house building. My village has around 40 houses, built anywhere between 150 years ago and present day. They all face East for a view of the sea! There are many houses with little to no South aspect - maybe 50%. There were five houses built at the time mine was, with only two facing South (including mine!). There was no planning requirement to mention solar gain, and I know it wasn't considered by the developer.
      Conversely, my in-laws farm a few hundred metres away shares its watershed with the neighbouring three farms, each with their own part of the top of the hill they share. The fields aren't perfect grids, but they aren't on contour either. I've never been able to work out the basis for their segregation.

  • @AskTorin
    @AskTorin Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for your hard work helping people learn to live again. It must be hard for you to go through life knowing how many of you and your loved ones hardships come from and how people keep sustaining them. Keep up the hard work. And thanks from me and my ancestry.

  • @joyona7430
    @joyona7430 Рік тому

    Thank you for your work on our behalf. I am promoting this wisdom to anyone who gives me an opportunity to share. I have been watching your channels since the first day I found it on you tube. Permaculture changes everything for the benefit of all. "Dominion over the land etc. does not mean exploitation it means working "with" the land, water, vegetation and animals for the benefit all all. This is the next step in the evolution of our human family and all life on earth. I love your work and delight to promote it to anyone with ears to hear an eyes to see.

  • @crockymfc1
    @crockymfc1 Рік тому +4

    Every single civilisation in history colonised the natives around them starting with the ancient Sumerian’s.
    Some other colonists through history were Egyptians, romans, mongols, ottomans Carthage, mayans, etc
    There were hundreds of colonial empires, all of which used slaves and some sacrificed humans

  • @noelbecker7002
    @noelbecker7002 Рік тому +2

    This makes so much sense! This idea is even more important now than it was when suggested. Wouldn't it be something great if we could recognize this in the present, and make the changes in political boundaries and accompanying governments? Although it certainly seems impossible in the current political environment, there are relatively recent examples even if not exactly the same. For example the UK rearranged its counties and burroughs to better accommodate current realities. This would be a worthwhile project related to our response to climate change.

  • @phoenixjim0527
    @phoenixjim0527 Рік тому +1

    Powell is absolutely right. I had thought of the same idea due to intrastate disputes around shared waterways.

  • @larrystamp9590
    @larrystamp9590 11 місяців тому +1

    Now , THIS IS WHAT SHOULD BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS , I think Andrew, Millisons knowledge could change the world . I write this with a sad heart because of the wildfire in Canada .This could have been prevented . Animals have rights too !!!!!

  • @chiefmonrovia6691
    @chiefmonrovia6691 Рік тому +2

    What a lovely an unique video style. Amazing drawings, a really clever use of visuals, it reminds me of how weathermen do their green screen work, except having the drawings directly in front of you allow a greater interaction that doesn't feel phony.

  • @scottmonfort
    @scottmonfort Рік тому +1

    Recently, I've been thinking that a shed roof facing south for the sun for solar power would be better than windows. This would flip the thinking 180 degrees. We had a cabin that faced south ... it was so hot during the summer, we rarely used the front deck ... would have been nicer to have a back deck away from the sun. So you have to consider the use of the house when considering the orientation.

  • @chrishoo2
    @chrishoo2 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for a great documentary!❤

  • @snocookies
    @snocookies Рік тому +1

    Excellent content as usual!

  • @nil981
    @nil981 Рік тому

    As someone who works in professional land surveying this system of land management and political organizing makes the most amount of sense.

  • @aitor9185
    @aitor9185 Рік тому +1

    Awesome vid!
    In the Basque country traditional houses and farms were always built facing south/south-east on sunny locations where possible (it's hilly here) and against the prevailing northwestern wind and rain coming from the ocean. The houses normally have no windows facing north or just a tiny one. People have known about passive houses for ages, especially when it could save you lots of effort (less wood chopping back then).
    They are very nice and look awesome :)

  • @standardannonymousguy
    @standardannonymousguy Рік тому

    Wonderfully put.

  • @patrickshaw411
    @patrickshaw411 Рік тому +1

    As someone living in the Great Lakes region, aspects like water and heat in the summer are not that big of a deal, but this sounds game changing for anyone living in climates like New Mexico.

    • @DaltonHBrown
      @DaltonHBrown Рік тому

      8:24 He said heat in the winter time, not summer.

  • @thatguychris5654
    @thatguychris5654 Рік тому +2

    Logic and politics mixes as well as oil and water

  • @JoshuaRes
    @JoshuaRes Рік тому +5

    We moved to a neighborhood with the streets running on a 45°. At first I thought it was spatially confusing, now that we built an ADU, I am so excited about how we get sun in different windows all day.

  • @jamesgardner6499
    @jamesgardner6499 Рік тому +1

    Wow, my house is on a E-W orientation. The front is north but most of the windows face south. I hadn’t realized that would be more efficient. It’s a good thing too, my house is on the bigger side.