Rukka Nivala 2.0 - One year on, is it worth the investment?
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- The Rukka Nivala 2.0 is one of the Finnish companies' most popular and technical riding suits. The Gore-Tex 3-layer pro-laminate material promises a 100% waterproof performance. When coupled with the Cordura, Armacour materials and the Rukka specific D3O armour, it's a powerhouse in terms of textile riding suits on the market. But it does have an equally high-level price tag to match and the CE classification raises a few eyebrows too. I've been wearing the Nivala 2.0 for coming up to a year now which is a perfect time to report back on its performance, and ask the question "Is it really worth the investment?"
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00:00 - Introduction
00:51 - Pricing
01:38 - Materials & Construction
04:33 - Features
05:40 - Ventilation
06:42 - Openings where water can get in
07:34 - Trousers
09:33 - Comfort
11:51 - Performance
13:22 - CE Classification
17:59 - Is it worth the money? - Авто та транспорт
Had a 50MPH slide down the road in a rukka nivala. I walked away with no damage to me. Jacket and trousers are worn away and have lots of damage, but did the job designed to do. Purchased a Nivala 2 to replace it. Old kit was 5 years old and still working well
I've had the original Nivala trousers for over 3 years and the Nivala2 jacket for almost 12 months. I bought them from sportsbikeshop in their November black friday sales and got a further 10% discount through my insurers. I got a great deal on both occasions and spent less than a total of £1800 so it pays to wait. Like you, I've ridden in all weathers and never had an issue. I wouldn't have anything else now. 😀
I started my street riding career 48 years ago and I’ve seen riding gear evolve from “fashion leather” and waxed cotton to the modern textiles. The quality of riding gear today is amazing, but you do have to pay the price for quality and durability, however it’s worth every penny! Having unfortunately “danced with the devil” in an intersection altercation many years ago I was glad I was wearing modern riding gear. (And it’s even better now than it was then.)
I was just looking at your video as I was looking around for another suit. Thanks for all the info and explanation. Rukka does however also have a 5 year warranty in Europe, at least in the Netherlands that is. I have a Rukka Realer, I bought it, I think about 7 years ago and my wife has the ladies equivalent of that suit. I bought it when I was still working and rode 55k km annually and it still looks like new. My wife's suit is also looking brand new. They never leaked. I destroyed the zipper, user error, and even that was repaired under warranty (4 years after I bought it) Now I have a second suit, I use that for travelling, the Stadler Tour Evo, which has two layers, the summer suit and the outer Goretex layer. After riding from southern Argentina to northern Alaska last year, it looks worse and more worn than my old Rukka. But I do like the concept as no suit caters to all climates and the Rukka is just too warm in summer or desert climates. There's always decisions to be made... Looking at Klim too.
Nice one Tony. Brilliant review. I’m a Halvarsson fan boy (my Naren is similar to the Nivala but no doubt Rukka do go the extra mile but at some cost. The suit specific d3o is incredible and you do get the down under layers included in the price. So, you pay your money and takes your choice.
Very good thorough review. It is a lot of money, but seems like very good quality. On a par with a made to measure item.
Great review! I’m looking for a new suit and quality reviews are a big help. Especially since I don’t really have a place near where I live here in the USA that sells quality riding gear.
Had a Rukka suit a few years ago and they are very expensive but last longer than most gear. Only downside was in warmer weather, there's a limit to what gore-tex can evaporate.
I have the previous version of that suit, the Nivala 1, it feels extremely safe, I've ridden through horrendous rain storms in it and not a single drop of moisture has ever come through it, it's wonderfully comfortable, in combination with the supplied stuff able down jacket, it's warm enough for me down to about 5c, after that, I use it in conjunction with a Keis heated jacket, I wash it with nick wax detergent and waterproofing agent after every 3 rides and it looks almost like new after 2 years use, I'd recommend this suit in a heartbeat to anyone.
Good review, and I get why people might want it. I have the Rukka Kalix 2 suit as it does most what the Nivala does for the type of biking I do.
Thanks, yep its a lot of money and to be fair complete overkill for a lot of riders needs.
Very informative thanks 👍🏼
No problem 👍
Very informative; many thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I've owned 3 rukka outfits to date. I still have my old 2001 RUKKA drop liner Goretex outfit, one of my Son's is using it at the moment. Still like new, only one zip tab has failed but zip still works fine. I've had an Armaxion Goretex Pro outfit that was perfect but I put some weight on and had to replace it. I'm using a Rukka Cosmic outfit currently, it's 10 years old this year and is still working well in all weathers. Rukka quality stands the test of regular use over years of riding all year round. I cover 15-18k miles a year on average. 🏍️💨👍
Looks good kit Tony 👍
I've had Rukka, Dianise and some other brand, all technical kit over the years and they've all let me down after a period of time, I now have Merlin waxed cotton kit for the spring autumn and winter seasons and it's brilliant. Absolutely 100% waterproof, warm and all the Armour, can be re-waxed so ans so on. For summer I wear different kit, a collection of different jackets jeans and it all adds up to a price still hundreds cheaper than 2 grand. But then again I don't ride a GS...
Exactly and if you have an off your 2k gear is toast. Better to layer and have waterproofs me thinks.
Why do you think riding a GS would mean i'm not wearing a merlin and a layering system?
@@mdaydj look up the word 'sarcasm' in the dictionary, you'll find the answer there.
I have the new Voyage-R set and it’s brilliant. Totally waterproof, comfortable and mysteriously seems really light when it’s on. Upgraded from a ‘starter’ quality touring jacket & trouser set that were good but didn’t really keep out the rain so needed a waterproof over jacket. My wife reckons as the Rukka set costs 5x the price it bl**dy well should!
I have a Rukka Argonaut jacket which is one of rukkas original goretex pro shell and it’s still going strong after 13 years, the build quality is insanely good. I do worry about whether the armour will need replacing. The right arm sprung a leak after 3 winters and rukka fixed it under warranty, giving me a different jacket to use in meantime. The jacket has always been quite stiff though and having tried a Nivala 2 can see its way more comfortable. It’s just the price😢. TBH I mostly wear my leather jacket with a Scott waterproof over that, never lets a drop in.
Thanks for your video
Most welcome
Bought my Nivala 2 suit for £1600 brand new. It was in a sale, had a voucher and a 10% discount code that needed to be used so was a bit of a perfect storm. It’s my first Rukka suit, owned loads of different brands over the years and this is better than all of them. Only thing I don’t like is the neck. Feels too tight when zipped up and makes it hard to turn my head.
Other than that, great bit of kit and 2 years on I don’t regret my purchase. So much so I bought their mesh jacket for summer.
I don’t understand people saying they have had one and it has let them down. Keep Goretex clean and it will work. It also comes with a Goretex Lifetime Warranty to keep you dry and an extended Rukka warranty when you register it (specific to uk).
I do wear the jacket with a pair of riding jeans quite a bit (so not with the suit pants) and would recommend the Halvarssons belt zip connector to zip the jacket to your pants.
After years of riding motorcycles i can say is investing in gear for ur life is much more important than investing in motorcycle accessories and options, if u have the money go for the best gear available just bought my second rukka,
I had crashed 3 times in 26 years and was lucky to wear the best riding gears that saved me from serious injuries 👍🤲
Good video again. I hate to say it but to me , that price is crazy . You really could buy a good bike for that .
Oh yes it’s a hell of a lot of money for sure.
I have had both Nivalas and love them! I commute daily so the price is worth it given the comfort and protection levels. When I sell on the previous versions i always get a decent price - £650 for my Nivala 1 so something of this quality is always desirable. Buy cheap and it’s worth nothing second hand. Add the 6 year warranty and it’s overall a compelling package.
Thanks for your review, interesting kit, i have allways liked rukka , nevrr really thought i could afford rukka but i think i may look into the cheaper end of the rukka range as i don't need this price point..but I'm looking at other brands so who knows..but I'm glad u like it and it works for you, good presenting without being over dramatic like some on boo tube ..ta ta toodle pip.
My pleasure 😊
hi Tony
Your video's are very informative.
I've just watched about 6 in succession.
I need a wee now ! ha ha !
haha, oops! thanks for watching though
Thanks for calling them trousers not pants! That really winds me up
Great video mate.
There’s no excuse for a suit costing £2.5k not to have an AA rating. But the huge level 2 armour does put others to shame as it costs peanuts to make.
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I have owned this suit for 6 years, now. It’s as good as new, washed properly, with the correct products, it remains 100% WP. I imagine I’ll get another 10+ years from it.👍🏻
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I've owned a Rukka Armaxis suit for over 5 years and most importantly it's kept me dry........ at a price. At 4.5 years old the waterproof zip failed (a week point in my opinion) but Rukka and the Sportsbikeshop sorted it with a replacement jacket while mine was repaired.
Rukka has been the only thing that's kept me dry, it's still a good jacket now.
Downside is it's simply too hot for comfortable mid summer or European riding so I've not used it on recent tours, preferring vented jackets & jeans with waterproofs when needed.
Would I spend that again??? probably not
I have the original Nivala bought at a heavy discount when the new Nivala came out. Having tried the new one as well there isn't actually a huge amount of difference between the 2. Anyway, I have never even worn it yet but somehow have already managed to lose the detachable storm collar which irritatingly cannot be bought for love nor money separately.
Bloody hell, there are cheaper wedding dresses...
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But there not waterproof
Good luck riding in a wedding dress.😂
Not in the long run ....
@@benkelly2190😂
Definitely worth the price only thing I would say is the Nivala 1 chest protector is better and have been using mine for 3 years and in some very prolonged heavy rain and never has let any water in
Superb kit and also zips to my Halvarssons gear
Good review. One thing is I don't accept that Rukka didn't apply for CE 2. That basically means they don't think it will pass which is fair enough but potential buyers need not gloss over that fact. Full disclosure: I own a Rukka Goretex Pro jacket that I am totally happy with and use it in winter with a Helite vest. I use the Rukka since I like having a heated vest underneath which eliminates to option of using Tech Air 5 vest.
Its not necessarily a case that they didnt think it would pass, they thought that A classification was all that was required given its overall protection. But thats just what was told to me and i can't determine if there were other motives or not. But as I said in the video I've worn and seen higher rated jackets that have minimal level 1 armour, that wouldnt give me the confidence this does. It opens a can of worms in terms of the classifications, is it just as simple to that AAA is better than AA which in turn is better than A? I don't know the true answer to that, and we definitely need safety testing done, but I don't think its always as black & white
I think I would go for a decent breathable water resistant jacket with armour , separate waterproof over jacket plus and air vest for the same price as this Rukka jacket.
Yep, a good call and possibly more flexible solution
I had a Heine Gericke leather goretex laminate jacket and trousers and they were very good, but you couldn't wear it in the summer, even with the vents open it was too hot and sweaty. After many years the jacket started to leak at the right elbow, and I've switched to separate waterproofs. Definitely more faff. The best part of the all in one is just chucking on one jacket whatever the weather (really hot days excluded) and not having to think about it. The Rukka cost though, ouch.
Yep laminates are certainly convenient, but i do quite like the layering approach as long as I have somewhere on the bike to stash the waterproofs
Is the beard to stop water getting down your neck!!!
Great review, just wish I could afford that quality of jacket and trousers
It helps! But I will be looking at some alternatives which whilst not as technical are friendlier on the bank account and will still keep you warm and dry!
Relatively new to your channel and enjoying your reviews. You addressed the price point well and I do wonder why reviewers bother. This type of gear costs what it does because of all the reason you outline. I don't necessarily agree with those that say if you're riding in all weathers, all year, doing high mileage then it can be justified. Justified to who? People have the money they have and they make choices. I have a friend who has two £40K BMWs on his drive but would never buy kit like this to ride his bike. In all the reviews I've watched and read about this gear and Klim etc. nobody has ever said it's not worth the money or it is poor quality in anyway. I have a friend who came on a bike trip last year in Klim gear. We all immediately noted the feeling of quality, number of features to make it suitable for more riding conditions and how it reacted to torrential rain (water ran off it). One of the others had this exact suit. It was the same. The venting on the Klim was better and I don't know why Rukka continue to make everything predominantly in black. 😄😄😄
Thanks, indeed yes I don’t feel the need to justify the price, you can either afford it and be happy to pay that money or you can’t/won’t.
The other point with the rating is its generally based on slide rating not impact. The impact armour on this suit makes it far safer than most other double a rated gear.
Exactly the point I was making in the video, the CE ratings do seem to be skewed more towards abrasion resisitance. To be honest if a suit saves me from injury in a crash, but its toast, i'd be happy with that.
Woah, the level of armour is quite something
I really is!
The armour is superb, other manufacturers should provide decent sizing. The CE tests are suspect.
Oh man, we all want the best helmet, gloves, jacket, boots, but we all have a budget…. I have no doubt the Rukka kit is awesome, but I trust my RST gear at a fraction of the price… I’m never likely to to ride in a fashion where I need Rukka quality or protect me.. Good vid buy the way 😀
Couldn't agree more!
I don't have a Rukka , but the safety and armors is amazing , but Price is a bit to much for this location as we cannot ride from Dec to April in Quebec Canada due to winter , I do have a klim that is very ventilated and leather jacket with proper armor . rating at this point are a bit off as per many U tube video and I agree. Alain
What about closing the rear vents without removing the jacket? top review squire.
Only if you’re a contortionist! 😂
@@mancavemoto Far too common that and the first thing I try before 'splashing ' out!
Yep , the rear pocket was worth mentioning as that is very easy compared to a lot of others, but the rear vents, not so much
Crikey that's almost the price of the bike I bought!!
Very good, what height are you? Just looking at the size chart’s
5ft 10in or 178cm
Sure it’s great kit but I’m a Halvarssons fan, in my opinion much better vfm and far more comfortable. Goretex is seriously over priced for its performance but it does the job, I’m happy to use cheaper alternatives.
Save 2.5 grand move to Spain 😎👍
Haha yep, although I think moving to Spain would cost more 👍
I have this suit. Annoyingly the crotch leaked when we were in the Lakes this year. Top was fine. Will be sending it off shortly to be looked at. I was seriously disappointed!
Have to agree the investment is worth it if like you say you are a rider that does many thousands of miles a year all year riding in all weather's and the six year warranty is great. For some one like me who does between 7 and 10 k per year spread over 12 months in all weather I've found my halvarssons wien jacket and wish trousers great and totally waterproof in 4 hours of motor way riding in torrential rain for £900 All so I think if you commute fair distance all year you could justify the price of the nivala, good review because you have used the suit all year in all conditions
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Gawd.
Sorry but too much.
Last year's Dianese Carve master in a sale £260.
Quality light quilted jacket £80 in a sale.
My old Oxford waterproof over jacket is there if i need it.
Plus i have a lightweight summer jacket i can pair with the rain jacket and quilted jacket too.
To be honest i can't spare £1400 for a jacket, but is that one £1000 better? Especially when it's so short - crotch leak and warmth in sub zero temperatures?
I tour with people who wear Rukka and Klim. Klim leaks.
Those with Rukka still wear rain jackets over the top.
But you pays your money and takes your choice.
Ride safe and happy travels 👍
If you live in Europe, but I buy my jacket in GB, do I also have a 5-year warranty?🤔
I would think so
While it’s waterproof and warm (albeit with poor abrasion resistance), the Nivala’s price puts it against bespoke textiles from Hideout and BKS Made-to-Measure. That’s too tall an order for Rukka - it isn’t in their league for materials, protection or made-to-measure comfort.
Hideout are close to me and i know them pretty well. They make some incredible kit. Whilst Rukka can match in terms of materials they obviously can't compete with the fit of a made to measure garment. Their Adventure Pro jacket if made to measure would set you back £1625, but its a hell of a piece of kit!
If the whole suit is laminated, how come the pockets are only shower proof? surely a potential leak point. I ride thousands of miles all year round and did consider buying this suit but then came to my senses and decided to keep all my riding suits I have collected over the years and invest £50 on Ex NAVY/RAF Goretex over Jacket and Trousers and they do exactly the same job in extreme weather. Plus you you don’t need to be wearing sweaty waterproof clothing when not needed, but they are there to use stashed in my top box if the weather changes. Proofs you don’t need to spend thousands or try and keep up with the GS/Rukka clan, as mentioned all suits fail in the end.
Thats down to the zips and positioning. I not had any water get in, but then i've always zipped them up properly. There are plenty of alternative options out there this is just one solution that I've reviewed. Some people prefer a laminate suit so they can ride through mixed conditions without stopping to put on/take off oversuits, and having somewhere to store them. As you know Gore-Tex is breathable, so your not left wearing sweaty clothing.
No CE2 back and limb protection is a rip off at that price. Why don't they partner with Forcefield instead of D30 so we can get the best protection.
Back protection is the next important thing after a helmet. Even more important than abrasion resistance. So I think the folks at Rukka focus purely on waterproof protection and warmth at the expense of everything else.
You're better off buying any other gore-tex laminated jacket and suit for around £1100. That'll give you enough change to buy a heated jacket + a Shoei neotec 2/3 helmet + Forcefield Pro Sub 4k CE2 back protection which let's less than 4kn force on impact.
I own the Dianese Antarctica Gore-tex which is as expensive as the Rukka and I regret buying it because the material around the limbs is does not stretch at all and this limits your movements to the point of getting cramps as you cannot bend your legs properly if you buy the right size suite. You'd have to size up big time.
I think REV'IT and Alpinestars are a no nonsense garuanteed quality, cheap alternative and don't see the justification for £2500 suits, those kind of prices make a mockery out of motorcycling.
I think you need to watch the video again and pay a little more atttention. It’s has full CE level 2 armour, including the chest protection.
I just paid £1914.87 for both
The only thing I don’t like is spending £1200 on a jacket that when you open it says made in china all over it they’re cutting costs in manufacture and just reaping the profit not passing it on to the consumer atleast my Daytona boots are made in Germany arai helmet Japan etc when I buy high end normal clothing it’s normally Italian
It also seems that only adv bike riders feel the need for this type of kit you don’t see anyone on a naked supermoto supersport etc with 2-3k of klim or rukka on
China doesnt necessarily mean cheap or poor quality, and as I mentioned in the video Gore-Tex are very strict about production processes. So to be honest where its made had little effect on the end product.
I also beg to differ on your last point....but to be fair most supermoto and supersports riders will be in leather, and probably tucked up in the garage in poor weather?
@@mancavemoto china means cheap labour and cheap manufacturing that isn’t passed onto the customer by the likes of rukka and klim regardless of quality
@@mancavemoto I also have a alpinestars jacket fairly old now never let a drop in warm to -1/2 with a cheap thermal base layer and cost around £170 never have I thought I’ll spend a extra £1200 for a rukka or klim even tried them on in sportsbike shop to see what the hype was about they just feel like heavy sweat boxes each to their own even if people were commuting daily a alpine stars Andes v3 suit will do the same job as klim or rukka for about £400
@dale5490 Not always….there’s a perception that it does and obviously labour costs are cheaper than other countries. But that isn’t necessarily the major percentage of the cost of the end product.
@@mancavemotoif you did a poll of would people be more comfortable spending the money on klim and rukka knowing it was still made in America and Finland I’d reckon near enough all would say yes knowing that it’s made where it was originally designed and skilled craftsmen were getting a good wage making it
I sweat like a pig, I think I’d be wet from the inside out. But at those prices I’ll just have to do with what I can afford
Thats what the Gore-Tex is for.
A whole year in the jacket and you didn't crash test it to see if the single A CE rating is sufficient, lazy! In all seriousness I reckon this jacket will be pretty safe based on the overall construction and the armour included, it's just a bit of a marketing fail on Rukka's part.
I know, what an amateur!
No, it's not worth the price. If I was living back in England all year, I would import a one-piece Motoport kevlar mesh suit [including zip in/out waterproof liner] from the USA. Even paying import duty, it would be WAY less than this two-piece. And better in every respect. Nick J
Your not selling it that’s far too much. I ride all year round. Live in Scotland and travel down to see family at Christmas. 460 miles in all weather. Don’t need to spend that ridiculous amount of money on kit. Your falling into the fashion trap to keep up with the joneses. I invested in heated gear Set of waterproofs that can be rolled up and put in your too box in the summer or wear as a wind breaker. Never let me down.
I’m not trying to sell it. It’s a kit review, one of many on my channel, which cover all types and prices. I’m not saying it’s the best solution, it’s a solution, for those willing to spend the money.
@@mancavemoto sorry didn’t mean sell the item but the justification for spending a huge amount of money for this product that I’ve never needed in the 40 years of biking
Ah i get you. yep its difficult to justify that kind of spend. Its a very good suit, but there are plenty of alternatives at much lower cost. Not all as technical, but technical enough!
Yes indeed too pricey for me, appreciate you spending a lot of time wearing the kit before a review. Important also I feel, that kit 'is' comfy from the beginning, anything that starts stiff but gets comfy, will gradually become loose (oh err!!) so only a 3rd of the time is it right. Helmets especially. Thanks again very thorough review. 👍
Ridiculous price that you mugs keep encouraging.
Who's encouraging it? its a product on the market which people are interested in and i've reviewed it. No need to call me a mug
You are encouraging it and all the others buying Rukka at such ridiculous prices and if you will pay over £1000 for a pair of trousers I will maintain you are a mug.@@mancavemoto
I'll reiterate, how am I encouraging it?
£1399. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂