Making fuming nitric acid
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2018
- Today, I'll be revisiting something that I did 4 years ago, as one of the first videos for the channel!
Warning: This experiment deals with dangerous and toxic chemicals.
Link to old nitric acid video: • Making Fuming Nitric Acid
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Nile talks about lab safety: • Chemistry is dangerous.
Music in credits (Walker by SORRYSINES): / walker - Наука та технологія
Exposing a glove to the vapors, I.E. using the glove to cover a beaker of the acid for a few hours, will cause it to detonate when struck. Had to learn that one the hard way...
So it was really hell bent for leather!
You binging Niles videos too?
Cody'sLab would love to see a video on that. Or better yet a codyslab series on lab safety!
FORREAALL???
@@eaminyashed7799 It's Cody. Safety is minimal.
7:40 "I didn't really feel anything", says Nile, as his finger slowly fumes
I Think that was just the acid fuming
@@nocosttoogreat It probably is, but still looks dangerous
Joshua Briones yeah
Is this a reference?
@@user-jn9ii9ev3c is thAT a JOJO refrence
You have such nice glassware
294 people are jealous
So true. I envy his glassware. My dream is to own an entire lab with fused quartz glassware. You generally don't have to worry about these things cracking under high heat. They're super expensive tho :(
I wonder if nile has any
hahaha i know that feeling too well.
@Ravn Rike big part of my school glassware is "old glassware" from university, so I can tell you that cleaning sometimes is true hell :P
Buy it at nile red.com/shop/glassware
I have to say - as a person who's worked in the film & video business for over 40 years, your lighting was probably the best I've seen on UA-cam. I first clicked on the video because I remember watching early rocket tests and X-15 flights on TV and in Life magazine.
The quality of your production was so good, I was glued to the screen. Also, your delivery and was so smooth and information shared so easily followed, I just really enjoyed it. Really great job. Well done!
100 PERCENT AGREE
I mean it was alright nothing special
@@turolretar okay big man
@@turolretar wow, whatever you say oh holy one
@@steel_inquisitor6652 y’all realize that to work in a lab you need good lighting. Plus, the voice overs were nice I’ll agree w u but the lighting needs to be like that if you want to work with chemicals.
When you first talked about gloves I was thinking 'oh hey didn't Nile upload a Nitric vs Gloves video not too long ago?'
Then you hit me with the "....this was one of my first videos".
Congrats, you've been making videos long enough to make me feel old haha
Oh my god it's you! Fuck yea I love your channel! You got me into energetics just like NileRed and NurdRage got me into chemistry. Take care!
Shit dicks
Fuming nitric acid is always fascinating, but also somewhat scary.
Random Experiments Int. - Experiments and syntheses there's always a price for something fascinating
Grüß dich! (:
Die Zahl der Chemiekanäle hält sich ja leider in Grenzen oder wird sogar kleiner... Da rennt man sich schnell über den weg :)
Allerdings! Finde das aber sehr traurig, weil es wirklich immer weniger gute und sinnvolle Kanäle gibt. Und die die einmal gut waren verlieren mehr und mehr an Qualität...
Random Experiments Int. - Experiments and syntheses q
I read the title as "Making fun of nitric acid"
Dropping it on finger is kind of making fun of nitric acid.
I mean, he kinda did that too.
haha the dumb acid couldnt even melt through vinyl! what with it fuming all the time its a wonder it has friends.
Ayy yo, check this shit out! The bitch-ass "full-strength" nitric acid tried to burn this guy's finger but it only left a piss stain. It couldn't even make it through a thin-ass vinyl glove. What a pathetic fucking joke! And what's with the constant smoking? Does it think it looks cool doing that shit? Who the fuck does it think it it? John Lennon? Un-fucking-believable!
HNO3: "plz, no bully"
Nile Red on his last lab-tour:
“I can’t risk producing crazy amounts of nitrogen dioxide”
Nile Red today:
“Let’s make fuming nitric acid”
getting knocked out while a reaction is happening is probably worse then whatever that acid can do with safety precautions
@@justsomecommentchannel8602 red fuming nitric acid is red because of dissolved NO2, and it slowly generates more when exposed to light. The fumes also contain a lot of NO2.
@@justsomecommentchannel8602 I think you're confusing NO2 with N2O
@@rakanali4216 yeah probably
Nile now : *Throws sodium in water*
The "solder smell" was probably from the glazing on the pieces of porcelain plate.
I imagine "solder smell" comes from lead in solder and porcelain glazes containing lead are quite common still unfortunately, so think that's why he suggested it.
Pro tip: while using teflon tape, one should wind the tape in the same direction as the object to be sealed is spun during instalation, also it should be wound from where the threads will finally end up to where they first engage (think like fish scales). This will ensure the tape doesn't bunch and leave gaps that can cause leaks.
i thought they were used as lubrication for screwing stuff
@blackroberts6290 its used to make a better seal
If you're going to use fuming nitric acid to burn stuff, might as well go whole hypergolic hog and try dimethyl hydrazine. That's the combination actually in use in rockets. Stand well back.
Cris Dekker isn't that the other half to the t -stoft Nazi rocket fuel ?
And it’s highly carcinogenic too. Look up the videos of satellites being fuelled with the stuff, they’re wearing spacesuits on the ground.
I think you're talking about chlorine trifluoride? There have been some proposed uses for it, but the problem is ClF3 is so dangerous that it's liable to damage the rocket, either physically from the explosive reaction with the fuel, or chemically if it starts reacting with bits of rocket. So it's a trade-off - you get higher energy density from your fuel/oxidiser mixture, but you impose extra constraints on the rocket design.
Nitric acid burns more controllably, and in addition it passivates many metals which protects the fuel chamber from chemical attack. It's normally a better option unless you really need the highest energy density possible.
nobody was talking about chlorine trifluoride
I got my information from a very interesting book by a rocket fuel industry insider:
library.sciencemadness.org/library/books/ignition.pdf by a guy named John D. Clark. In it he describes the experimental road taken to find the standard liquid fuel combination IRFNA/UDMH, the U standing for unsymmetrical. On the german C-stoff/ T-stoff he writes:
"... peroxide is not only a monopropellant, it's also a pretty good oxidizer. And Walter worked out a fuel for it that he called "C-Stoff." (The peroxide itself was called "T-Stoff.") Hydrazine hydrate, N2H4-H2O ignited spontaneously when it came in contact with peroxide (Walter was probably the first propellant man to discover such a phenomenon) and C-Stoff consisted of 30 percent hydrazine hydrate, 57 of methanol, and 13 of water, plus thirty milligrams per liter of copper as potassium cuprocyanide, to act as an ignition and combustion catalyst. The reason for the methanol and the water was the fact that hydrazine hydrate was hard to come by - so hard, in fact, that by the end of the war its percentage in C-Stoff was down to fifteen. The Messerschmitt 163-B interceptor used C-Stoff and T-Stoff. "
Check out the PDF if you're into chemistry and things that go boom, very interesting. As for ClF3, he also writes about that, but another great source for that is the series "Things I won't work with" by Derek Lowe, specific entry: blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2008/02/26/sand_wont_save_you_this_time
(note the title of the article) The whole series is a delight of horrors :)
I have never been into chemistry, but I can't stop watching your videos. Keep it up!
Thanks :)
@@NileRedcan you do a video where you compare the reactivity of the alkali metals with one another?
Your sense of humor, knowledge of chemistry and explanation methods are just awesome. I love ur lab equipments and your videos
Thanks! :)
I started watching your videos two years ago. They have inspired me to study chemistry and seek a degree in chemical engineering. I just finished my first semester of Ochem. I got to do several of the techniques that you display in your videos in my lab (active extractions, recrystallizations, and bromination to name a few). The whole semester I thought of your videos and how cool it was that I was finally getting emulate them. Keep up the great videos, I love them and am inspired by them!
how's the chem engineering degree going?
that's amazing that you found a passion from this 👌🏼
im planning to go into ChemE as well, how is it going for you? any advice from someone who has experienced it?
Here after the nitric acid spill in Tucson, thank you for this information.
You know this guy is a chemist when you see the yellow stains in his hands.
or a smoker
Prehistoricman Nile's too smart to be a smoker. People that are successful in academia usually don't smoke because they understand how harmful it truly is.
Hah. A real chemist doesn't play with chemicals like this. This is dangerous and stupid.
yeah nile should leave this stuff to experts like max. lmfao
@@102819921 Yes they do. It's not stupid, just dangerous.
It's always great to see a new NileRed video in my feed!
7:12 OK I jumped. Chemistry is one of those few university subjects where your homework can eat your dog.
7:50 “hey guys let’s see if this fire is hot, wow it burned my hand how unexpected”
Cody does like rockets...
Sergio 1248 why don't taste it ?!
Step aside coke and mentos youtubers, let's see what happends when I ingest nitric acid and monomethylhydrazine.
He did make rockets but that oroject has been dormant for a long while.
He has toyed with (fairly crude) red fuming nitric acid + diesel rockets... ua-cam.com/video/iIc142Q7HH8/v-deo.html
delta sparkle six or what is left of him.
6:35 Me: "Oh, I bet it's passivating it." ...a few seconds later..."Awwwww, yeah, go me."
Passivation is a really interesting thing. You could do a whole video on how different materials actually stop corroding in the presence of stronger and/or more concentrated acids, oxidizers, etc. even though that seems counterintuitive. And I don't see any videos on UA-cam that actually explore passivation chemistry in detail.
Here's an example you might consider using from us chemical engineers that's rather important in industry. A very common process from removing H2S and/or CO2 from gas streams is absorption with an amine such as MEA, DEA, or MDEA mixed with water. Amine plants are full of places with corrosion potential. You would probably expect H2S to be the bigger corrosion threat in the absorption column, but that's not actually true. It's usually CO2. Both of them react with the iron in the column which corrodes the steel. However, the iron sulfide layer formed from the H2S forms much quicker and adheres much more strongly than the FeCO3 layer from CO2. And once a solid FeS layer is formed, it actually protects the steel from further corrosion. So for H2S, we actually DESIGN the column to corrode and form that passivating FeS layer to PROTECT against further corrosion. With CO2, you have to take a completely different approach, because FeCO3 just continuously sloughs off, and you can lose a column much faster in the presence of CO2 because of that. Google "h2s passivation amine column" to read more.
We boiled a 1 inch steel cube in Nitric acid for 72 hours for a required corrosion test. It passed, ferric oxide passivates the surface. Thats why our Nitric Acid drums were made of steel.
Dude thank you for writing this. I've been stuck on a homework problem for my ChemE reactor design class and this just helped me connect the dots!
This is close to the reason aluminum doesn't rust: it does, except that the aluminum oxide just sticks to the metal, forming a protective layer. It's really cool.
DUDE. I have been down a rabbit whole on surface energy, surface activation, and PASSIVATION for the past 4 months and you're right there is SOOOOO little content to go with, especially on passivation. If you find some good videos to watch, please let me know. I know citric acid and nitric acid can be used to passivate SS, but it seems like other acids like muriatic can be used to re-activate it? Not clear if that accurate, but I'm surprised it's not an acid-base thing and would like to learn more. Phosphoric acid seems to be king for corrosion protection on most ferritic metals, but doesn't necessarily put them in a passive state. And since most coatings and finish prefer to bond to an active surface would I want to passivate the phosphated surface or should I keep it active before priming? I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS and this is after months of reading and watching.
I have never before bought youtuber merch, but I copped that t-shirt literally as soon as you started the plug for it. Your videos are the pinnacle of UA-cam chemistry videos. Love the new lab, keep it up!
man i love how smooth your videos are. it actually feels like 60fps or even more
7:10 Cleanest air in arizona be like 😤😤
Beautiful just beautiful. Why is it that dangerous things are always so beautiful and mesmerizing.
Keep up the good work man
Every now and then I get really sick of studying, then I watch your videos and get reminded of how awesome chemistry really is.
Your videos have always been very high quality, but you have outdone yourself again! Great Video!
ive rewatched a good number of your videos, a few of them probably 5+ times. never gets old !
6:40 I love how the green gets more & more intense! Wow the adding of water gave a really intense reaction!
I know I'm late to the party, but as a casual observer I really appreciate the safety displayed and explained. It's professional and approachable. 😄
Not more late than me
Not more late than me
Not more late than me
@@NZC_Meow you think your late?
@@Shortkidnextdoor lol what's up with everyone being more and more late
Double displacement reactions are awesome! I recently learned about them and must say they are quite resourceful in chemistry.
Forgot to wear gloves during experiment in school and spilled some on my elbow and palm of my hand. Palm of my hand was just fine after rinsing with water but near my elbow it ate trough my skin and left a scar. Your hypotesos was right. On other bodyparts, the pain and damage is almost instant
Got some on my leg once. Couple drops onto bare skin below my knee (wearing shorts when handling chemicals is not recommended) and the stinging started within a half second. I was surprised at how fast it was.
trustthewater I only got that on my finger and holy crap it hurts but after washing off it is just stained
It certainly gave me a new respect for it. I would rank it up there with a bee sting but, as you said, it didn't really linger once it was washed away.
Concentrated sulfuric acid left scars on my hand and it hurt but not as much right away. It was the constant throb like you get with thermal burns.
trustthewater nitric has this very sharp response
I spilled conc. H2SO4 couple of times and it never hurts
Hey! I love you! Im gonna be a chem major because of you! 16 in highschool, i love your work. Im trying to make my chem teacher watch this
MrPies32 haha same, I'm 15 an plan on doing the same thing, although I kind of want to go work on the fusion reactors. But teaching does sound fun :)
Plz don’t if they are lame they probably flag this video, the YT chem community is losing good channels bc of unjustified fear
Wait? I think you misinterpreted my statement I want to become a chemist as well, not do this experiment.
THEDRAFTEDCOW oh thats cool, if you wanna be chemist you should totally try this at some point, before gettin in collage, you know, I meant the guy who was trying to show this to his teacher, probably will get nile im some trouble if he is flagged
Sebasfort this is true, but physics is cool as well :)
mmm those lovely orange gases 😍
Garrett Norris UGHH pneumonia lol
You wouldn't want to breathe it in.
Darth Sagit of course not, I just like the color and think it's a fun compound.
I would.
Monokuma my dude, you okay there?
I'm an electrical guy. I absolutely HATED my chem classes, even the labs. But these vids actually do a pretty good job at making the process rather interesting, pretty easy to understand, and the chem actually seems like it meets an end goal! My chem classes always made it feel like I have to understand every elements valence shell structure before I'm able to do an experiment that seemed like it was more than just pouring random liquids back and fourth between containers for no understandable greater goal.
Totally do the model rocket thing. It would be pretty cool. Even better if maybe it was a collab with someone else to add controls or sensors or a camera or something to the rocket. A regular youtube space center.
Super interesting. Glad I found this channel! Thanks for all the videos.
The vinal glove test reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend who owned an E-Waste company. He mentioned some apparatus he made with PVC buckets and tubing because PVC was immune to nitric acid. So big thick PVC gloves might be a good option for safety in this regard.
1080p60 is nice... great video
thank!
Would be even better if you'd upscale it to 4k. Give it a try.
Gummy Bugz
I build computers all the time, so I'll try to help you out.
Could it be that you have an old computer? Maybe one with a very old graphics card, or no graphics card at all? Because of so, then a cheap second hand graphic card ($20 max) could be all you need to solve the problem.
I thought Macbook shouldn't have issues with 60fps...
@@JGnLAU8OAWF6 Newer macbooks don't have hte issue, the older ones doo, like the 2012 ones. windows machines have a longer lifespan, and i was able to run 4K60 on my Core 2 Duo/GT 710 system with out an issue other than the RAM speed on the mobo.
That's it. I'm heading right to Patreon to support you right now.
This seem to be rocket science :) Really chocking about the gloves. Didn’t see that coming :o.
Nice vids :)
Unfortunately the SDS for fuming nitric on Aldrich recommends using gloves. That should be changed...
After reading enough SDSs I have a hard time thinking the people writing them have ever used them.
Or better way of looking at it. Read the SDS for unleaded gasoline and then think about how dangerous regular chemical handling is.
I worked in a few PCP shops and the gloves and other safety equipment was not as "dainty" as shown here. Used handheld pumps to fill 150 gallon sulfuric and 2 300 gallon nitric acid tanks. My coworkers were all bald from radiation and Lead exposure. Then I left.
Pvc glives maybe?
Another great and interesting vid as always seen from Nile red!
Amazing narrator voice Nile!
Started watching your videos at around 8pm and still not enough xD
So much information making it's way in my head from this video.
3:38 forbidden applesauce
I love how Cody posts making a fume box and you post this lol
Really like your videos brother. You & NurdRage breakdown your experiments in a great way for noobs/ lay mins like myself that make it far more interesting...Must be a Canadian thing eh?
Get new glassware? You could probably release a vid unboxing them since new glassware is so super clean. Kinda like a visual ASMR
This is why chemical compatibility charts were created. Also, it's generally advisable to wear thicker over gloves when handling concentrated strong acids 😀
Who’s here from the truck spill?
Here
Love your videos man. Keep up the good work
I could sit and watch your videos all day long. Huge fan!
Hey NileRed,
I have been watching your videos almost every night lately during my wind down time. Great stuff.
You should consider brewing a beer for your edible chem series. I have been thinking about dabbling in homebrewing for a while and your videos are inspiring me to finally do it.
Thanks for your consideration, take care!
If you're gonna do some rocketry you should totally collab with CodysLab
Your production quality in the new lab is top notch.
The reflection of the new lab looks great in the round bottom flask. :)
You should get a thermal camera to show how things heat up in a reaction, might have been interesting to see how the temperature in the gloves rose before igniting.
Love your videos. You should make a video concerning some of the pathways of a chemist bachelor’s, and yours maybe. I wonder if you are making these videos as a result of not being able to find chemistry work? Very interested, and it would help me decide if I want to remain as a chemistry major.
Really great production quality on this one!
I've watched this video before, but, I want to point out how beautiful that thumbnail is. That is a gorgeous stillframe. It's really hard not to click on it when UA-cam suggests I rewatch it.
Vinyl gloves are probably just pvc; which is notoriously difficult to ignite.
Very intresting process! All your videos are great for learning!
I wish I would also have access to such chemicals. There would be a lot more projects possible.
Sadly, chemicals are strongly controlled in Austria, so I have to wait until I am done with my chemistry studies and my licence.
You don't have a similar drain cleaner there?
You could just make the chemicals from scratch tho
In Indonesia, you can basically buy sulphuric acid, hydrochloric, nitric acid, or even hydrofluoric acid without any license!
dannes22 yeah like me, I made myself some anfo rocket
@delta seems like asian countries have freer chemical regulations!
You help me fall asleep I’ve watched hours of you and I learn something new every time
i used to hate chemistry but now it’s my favorite subject at school because of you!
Keep in mind that polyvinyl chloride (vinyl) doesn't burn well PRESUMABLY because of its chlorine content.
We had a large chart for PPE material and chemical resistance up on the wall. Sometimes I would just read it to kill time... however, no where did it say, "Don't wear these as XXX will make it combust before you have time to doff them."
You've stepped up your camera game, well done sir.
Nice. I can't remember what I had to use this for in my chem class years ago. I could look at my lab book I still have, but that is more effort than I am will to put in.
Nice, I might give this a try, might be fun to try oxidizing a few materials with this stuff. Also, I think this can be used in conjunction with oleum to produce TNT and other highly nitrated aromatics. Very harsh conditions are required to add so many NO2 groups on those rings.
Just forget TNT: 3 deactivating groups in one ring? You deserve a Nobel for Peace if you're patient enough!
Haha, a NOBEL for peace
@@guitrz000 Alfred Nobel made the fortune behind those prizes from his business making explosives.
7:13 Thank god for that fume hood!! You have to admit, though, that's a really nice looking reaction.
OMG a new NileRed video! It's like christmas! Liked before the video even started
I have two suggestions for future videos. Since spring is here, I would like to see you extract latex from dandelions. Another suggestion is the extraction of Coniine from Poison Hemlock. Since Nurdrage hasn't been posting every frequently anymore, I think you will be a great substitute.
We used this in our first semester and it was a bit scary doing it without gloves :)
You want crazy rocket tests? Cody's Lab is just the collab for you!
Great video keep up the good work
First of all: as a Pharmaceutical Chemistry student I love your videos!
Then, you talked about nitrating mixture, will you ever show a proper way to do it? Because as long as long as water forms in nitration it gets worse for further nitrations. I heard about some nitric acid/anhydride mixtures (so that after nitration the water reacts with it instead of diluiting) but it looks improbable.
Will you also do a lab-setup video? I'm writing from europe, so getting all the glassware will be quite hard, but it would be interesting at least knowing were to begin.
Thank you for everything, you show stuff that would otherwise impossible to see not having the possibility to practise :)
"Hey, nile, how'd you get that yellow stuff on your finger?"
"Fuming nitric acid."
"what"
"F U M I N G N I T R I C A C I D"
7:12 Me after eating Thai food ...
If I remember right, RFNA was most often paired with Aniline dye as the fuel in rockets.
"I wont be building an actual rocket." Hes definitely building an ICBM in his workshop
0:19 high explosives you say? Demonitized.
Hey, love your videos. I know nothing about chemistry but have always wondered about natural liquids and the difference between them. It might be interesting to do a video about all the natural liquids: water, oil/fat, acids, mercury/other liquid elements, alcohols. Just a thought!!
11:09 sounds like plates in a busy restaurant lol
You're very good at what you do
Please make the model rocket!
YEEESSSSSS! PLZ
There is a cool video about this on periodic videos. I think it's about hypergolic reaktions.
0:20
To make make explosives with nitric acid (benzene based) you need to mixed it with concentrate nitric acid and concentrate sulfuric acid.
It’s for the “electrophilic aromatic substitution” (EAS):
The sulfuric acid reacts whit the nitric acid to form a NO2+ kation and a HSO4- anion. A Benzene electron rich ‘pi-bound’ will react as an nucleophile and add NO2 to his hexane form and form a cyclohexadienyl kation.
HSO4- anion must react as an Brönstedt base and needs to eliminate a proton of the cyclohexadienyl kation to recover the aromatic form.
I hope I don’t get in trouble whit this reaction 🙄
Thank you for explaining why sulfuric acid is used on glass joints
Great video as always.very useful stuff.thanks.
At first I read "Making fun of nitric acid" 🤣
That t-shirt logo is pretty damn cool. I like it. Love it when you put acid on your hands. That should be your next t-shirt logo. A hand with fuming nitric acid on it." "Acid is dangerous on skin unless you are Nile Red" What does nitric acid do to real Nile Red anyway?
My STEM class briefly dabbled in rockets but as a high school class we only looked at solid fuels. I would love seeing a liquid-fueled home made rocket engine. I’m bored by my high school chemistry class because what few labs we do put safety at the highest priority. The most dangerous chemical we’ve handled all year is a .1M sodium hydroxide solution. Your videos and reactions are incredible and I love seeing all the cool stuff you’re able to do.
yay more cool chemistry stuff! the only thing more in depth than these videos are academic lessons, and those aren't free
I was using fuming nitric acid to dissolve a zinc coating in the lab the other day and was wondering if/how gloves would protect me at all. Good thing I didn't get any acid on me!
"The nitrile reacts quicker but may be easier to remove" took you longer to say than the time it took to start burning xD
your videos helped me a lot with biomed school. many thanks
We used a lot of this stuff in my printmaking class in college for etching zinc plates.
That thumbnail looks like Hollow Knights infectious gas.
Very good video! I understood everything! I have two questions for you. Can I use hydrochloric acid (10%) or acetic acid (80%) instead of sulfuric acid?
And if you make nitric acid by this way you get K2SO4 or KHSO4?
No, these acids won't work.
That's a great all around video on making fuming nitric acid but what mostly amateurs seemed to forget is keeping the sulfuric acid in excess guarantees more and stronger in concentration nitric acid!
I got nitric acid burns a few years ago from making concentrated nitric acid. The friend i was making it with got permanent scars from trying to impress me and keep it on his hand. So glad i washed it off really quickly with a basic solution