Growing Living Rat Neurons To Play... DOOM? | Part 1

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  • @thethoughtemporium
    @thethoughtemporium  6 місяців тому +117

    Over the past year we've made some serious progress on this project, come check out Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/c-pWliufu6U/v-deo.html

    • @GamePilLP
      @GamePilLP 6 місяців тому +3

      Great video, watching it before the part two! Btw, do you know what movie/show is the clip at 0:56?

    • @Xnoob545
      @Xnoob545 6 місяців тому +2

      Ok

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  6 місяців тому +6

      @@GamePilLP They're Made Out of Meat: ua-cam.com/video/7tScAyNaRdQ/v-deo.html

    • @GamePilLP
      @GamePilLP 6 місяців тому

      @@thethoughtemporium Many thanks. Can't wait for the next part

  • @SunShineForTheFine
    @SunShineForTheFine Рік тому +28819

    The fact that human neurons are so advanced that they can force other neurons into playing doom for them is crazy

    • @A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid
      @A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid Рік тому +39

      Makes you wonder, what we're doing for some 4th dimensional scientist using 3D spacetime instead of 2D glass discs for growth media.

    • @littletimelord2755
      @littletimelord2755 Рік тому +1421

      Ya know, you bring up and interesting point. Imagine how these other neurons feel, they must think we’re quite audacious to do experiments like this

    • @PHneverwhere
      @PHneverwhere Рік тому +894

      You gain conscousness just to reap and tear rhose demons

    • @KinuTheDragon
      @KinuTheDragon Рік тому +359

      Crazy? I was crazy once.

    • @harrisfh
      @harrisfh Рік тому +512

      @@KinuTheDragon They locked me in a rubber room. A rubber room with rat neurons. Rat neurons make me play doom.

  • @rubenflores1200
    @rubenflores1200 Рік тому +10716

    Rat neurons “What is my purpose”
    Scientists “You will play doom”
    Rat neurons “Sick”

    • @kennyoffhenny
      @kennyoffhenny Рік тому +84

      😭

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY Рік тому +45

      Fr

    • @ODST_TROOP_ON_BREAK
      @ODST_TROOP_ON_BREAK Рік тому +142

      TBH, that is pretty f***ing tight. 😤

    • @cleptuno
      @cleptuno Рік тому +103

      “You can also pass the butter, once you get killed“.

    • @FuS3D86
      @FuS3D86 Рік тому +82

      Rat neurons "Do I get cheese?"
      Scientists "No... you get a tone generator"

  • @Cry0fwar
    @Cry0fwar Рік тому +39408

    Imagine gaining consciousness for the first time and your just Doomguy

  • @arthurcallahan6108
    @arthurcallahan6108 11 місяців тому +1246

    “Ah sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension!”
    -Peter Griffin

    • @ivonnesaysmiau
      @ivonnesaysmiau 4 місяці тому +6

      wonders*

    • @michaelerlanger2797
      @michaelerlanger2797 4 місяці тому +14

      Me seeing horrors beyond my comprehension (I don’t get it)

    • @FrosstKatt
      @FrosstKatt 11 днів тому

      "well i can comprehend these manmade horrors perfectly fine so idk maybe you have a skill issue or smth"
      -scout tf2

  • @FinnCrossan
    @FinnCrossan Рік тому +9301

    It's nice to think that someone's thought process while looking at a brain was "but can it run Doom?"

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 Рік тому +473

      Well, it's _playing_ DOOM rather than _running_ DOOM.
      My brain can also play DOOM, but can't run it.

    • @idioticlight
      @idioticlight Рік тому +623

      @@nathangamble125 quitter mindset

    • @kevynpacthatguythatdraws
      @kevynpacthatguythatdraws Рік тому +443

      @@nathangamble125 you're technically running doom if you're thinking of doom.

    • @leafly7917
      @leafly7917 Рік тому +34

      ​@@nathangamble125🤓

    • @kaiserofyoutube
      @kaiserofyoutube Рік тому

      @@nathangamble125 nerd

  • @togglehd
    @togglehd Рік тому +6732

    He really took "But can it play Doom" to a whole new level!

    • @goofoffchannel
      @goofoffchannel Рік тому +193

      Can't wait for down the line when it inevitably runs skyrim

    • @TheDrakanMaster124
      @TheDrakanMaster124 Рік тому +113

      But can it run crisis

    • @pumbi69
      @pumbi69 Рік тому +48

      I think you got doom confused with crisis. Doom can even run on a toaster

    • @TheDrakanMaster124
      @TheDrakanMaster124 Рік тому +30

      @@pumbi69 I play Doom on my TI-89 titanium

    • @suisse0a0
      @suisse0a0 Рік тому +22

      Well, it is know Doom can be play on anything... he just keep the trend going and true!

  • @gabrielwolffe
    @gabrielwolffe Рік тому +5320

    "We're building a meat-robot"..."we're training it to play DOOM"....I see no way that this could end horribly.

    • @TooLameToDie
      @TooLameToDie Рік тому +340

      something, something, Skynet. Something, something Armageddon

    • @onewithsource9742
      @onewithsource9742 Рік тому +30

      😂🤣😂 You guys! 😉

    • @Barrel4336
      @Barrel4336 Рік тому +127

      Hey, there won't be no problems.... unless a portal to hell opens up on Mars

    • @onewithsource9742
      @onewithsource9742 Рік тому +19

      @@Barrel4336 all because Douglas Quaid blabbed about Mars. Smh

    • @wizard_bunny
      @wizard_bunny Рік тому +26

      Maybe it saves us from the Demons coming through the portal

  • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
    @GlobalWarmingSkeptic 10 місяців тому +1377

    Imagine getting stomped in an FPS and it's just an array of a few hundred neurons that owned you.

    • @Beta_Mixes
      @Beta_Mixes 10 місяців тому +134

      Well, technically this was always a thing

    • @MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuy
      @MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuy 9 місяців тому +2

      I wonder if the Petri dishes will be capable of typing “I mitosed ur mom loser” in game chat…

    • @OMalleyTheMaggot
      @OMalleyTheMaggot 8 місяців тому +4

      Haha i can only imagine...
      *cries in TF2*

    • @bigshot103
      @bigshot103 8 місяців тому +53

      Imagine loosening to something with millions if not billions less neurons than you

    • @skepolotv4173
      @skepolotv4173 7 місяців тому +41

      Who would win?
      Experienced pro gamer with decades playing a variety of shooters vs. a neuron blob

  • @acetylsalicylicacid
    @acetylsalicylicacid Рік тому +4668

    Imagine frantically running home, but instead of, "I left the oven on!", its, "I forgot to feed my computer!" 💀💀

    • @exered-pc8hg
      @exered-pc8hg 11 місяців тому +208

      Warhammer be like:

    • @Deadchannel_321
      @Deadchannel_321 11 місяців тому +28

      bruh💀💀💀
      this is funny asf💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @Zacc2001
      @Zacc2001 11 місяців тому +41

      Mom: remember to feed the computer!

    • @Scruyum
      @Scruyum 11 місяців тому +13

      And then it becomes conscious

    • @darey8321
      @darey8321 11 місяців тому +9

      Wow a TF2 emblem haver

  • @stuff31
    @stuff31 Рік тому +4280

    I like that this guy's first thought when creating a sentient being is to make it play doom as if "can it play doom" is a benchmark that should apply to living organisms and not just old computers

    • @Kishmond
      @Kishmond Рік тому +254

      This is less sentient than a small insect.

    • @StormsandSaugeye
      @StormsandSaugeye Рік тому +477

      @@Kishmond *But can it play doom?*

    • @nicolasherrera0
      @nicolasherrera0 Рік тому +107

      @@Kishmond It's more sentient than a tardigrade?

    • @ricecooker7037
      @ricecooker7037 Рік тому

      @@nicolasherrera0yeah well giving the neurons positive output is like sex for them so they’re having a goddamn party.

    • @plumeria1985
      @plumeria1985 Рік тому +174

      @@Kishmond and? Would you trust an wasp smart enough to play doom? I think not.

  • @DefaultFlame
    @DefaultFlame Рік тому +2588

    Pitting miniature clone-brains of the lab personnel against each other in a quake tournament is the most mad scientist thing I've heard in real life.

    • @alexkha
      @alexkha Рік тому +59

      yea, why not choose a more peaceful game? Flappy Bird? Tetris? Pacman? Sim City?

    • @michazadkowski8516
      @michazadkowski8516 Рік тому +73

      ​@@alexkhastellaris

    • @dgurevich1
      @dgurevich1 Рік тому +78

      ​@@michazadkowski8516ah yes 'peaceful'

    • @michazadkowski8516
      @michazadkowski8516 Рік тому +53

      @@dgurevich1 it is peacefull after xenos are gone

    • @arekrekas213
      @arekrekas213 Рік тому

      most of the games you listed are singleplayer
      only one that's multiplayer is Tetris, and even then matches of that can get pretty sweaty all things considered@@alexkha

  • @the_soggster3464
    @the_soggster3464 10 місяців тому +292

    What someone will say 100 years from now...
    "awe come on dude, he was 1hp and then I started lagging, my computer must be hungry brb."

    • @neoleonor7140
      @neoleonor7140 6 місяців тому +5

      it's atleast like a 100 bucks for a Iphone 30

  • @Jumboo-j8e
    @Jumboo-j8e Рік тому +5103

    The fact that only a few neurons are needed to play Doom is a reason for this games success.

    • @karameelch
      @karameelch Рік тому +122

      bro😂

    • @Jumboo-j8e
      @Jumboo-j8e Рік тому +15

      @@BB-wl4qz 😜

    • @JackPonissi
      @JackPonissi Рік тому +9

      Lool!

    • @mhyotyni
      @mhyotyni 11 місяців тому +75

      If unnamed kid brother could play Doom succesfully in 1990s, there is nothing to wonder if a couple of rat's brain cells would play that game better! 🤤

    • @nuckerman5000
      @nuckerman5000 11 місяців тому +10

      Neuron Gaming

  • @williamprice7364
    @williamprice7364 Рік тому +3595

    We need to get a rat neuron speed run community

  • @miss_bec
    @miss_bec Рік тому +5007

    These man made horrors are within my comprehension and they're really cool

    • @Tiziotozio01-cz1nd
      @Tiziotozio01-cz1nd Рік тому +43

      Nevermind

    • @MouldedMind
      @MouldedMind Рік тому +163

      @@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd your grammar is beyond my comprehension

    • @kaanthereaper256
      @kaanthereaper256 Рік тому +48

      Man made horrors are the best ones

    • @thearpox7873
      @thearpox7873 Рік тому

      I can't wait for the lab-grown brain to face off against a supercomputer.

    • @GruppeSechs
      @GruppeSechs Рік тому +40

      @@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd I'm with you, man. This video was just kind of disturbing to me, when I think about the implications in the decade to come.

  • @crapchannelbruh
    @crapchannelbruh 7 місяців тому +72

    Computer: my brain hurts, can we play later?
    User: no

  • @jugel4533
    @jugel4533 Рік тому +2723

    You're doing litteral scientific studies and present it as a UA-cam funsie to fund it, you have my utmost respect

    • @brutuschapman2508
      @brutuschapman2508 Рік тому +126

      This man is grinding out meat robots and getting paid. The grind is real.

    • @SixWatt
      @SixWatt Рік тому +49

      @@brutuschapman2508meat grinding

    • @LightPink
      @LightPink Рік тому +14

      I didn't see anything that indicates this is a study

    • @jugel4533
      @jugel4533 Рік тому +67

      @@LightPink because there isn't, but when you're doing cutting edge research like that, even if you don't publish afterwards (and nothing point to them not doing that, this seems more than worthy enough), you're pushing the field forward.

    • @brutuschapman2508
      @brutuschapman2508 Рік тому

      @@SixWatt put ya head in the meat grinder 🤌

  • @Freakshowed95
    @Freakshowed95 Рік тому +1237

    I’m terrified of the idea of severed brain cells learning to circle strafe at top speed and proceeding to play the game with the skill caliber of a professional speedrunner

    • @sa2-2k14
      @sa2-2k14 Рік тому +96

      This is already happening with machine learning, which is literally bruteforcing any possibility simultaneously by abusing the ridiculously INSANE computational power of hardware

    • @Freakshowed95
      @Freakshowed95 Рік тому +89

      @@sa2-2k14 i know, but that’s a machine emulating the human ability to grow and learn. I’m talking about organic material severed from it’s original environment learning how to do the same kind of stuff on it’s own without any kind of assistance from the rest of the body it originated from. THAT sounds like brain-in-a-jar kind of stuff, which is exactly what this seems to be, minus the brain itself.

    • @beebo33
      @beebo33 Рік тому +4

      I'm thrilled by the idea

    • @Beepers559
      @Beepers559 Рік тому +5

      The first artificial intelligence made of flesh

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 Рік тому

      That already happens, just with non-severed brain cells.

  • @RepDreStre
    @RepDreStre Рік тому +2463

    I taught human neurons to play Doom by playing it myself

    • @KadenHartley
      @KadenHartley 11 місяців тому

      Booooo. You suck

    • @Godly_Improvement
      @Godly_Improvement 11 місяців тому +19

      true.

    • @Tanystropheus10
      @Tanystropheus10 11 місяців тому +56

      No you didn't you taught them how to pilot a mech to press certain buttons that translate into certain actions and you choose what actions to do based on sensory signals based on light wavelengths (eyes)
      Very different

    • @RepDreStre
      @RepDreStre 11 місяців тому +131

      @@Tanystropheus10 Yes I did. It took me like 6 years to master this body. I'm amazed you've heard of my other endeavors. Are you perchance a fan?

    • @protocolsavage8506
      @protocolsavage8506 11 місяців тому +14

      @@RepDreStreteach me how to pilot a mech broh pls

  • @maximusheaton8375
    @maximusheaton8375 10 місяців тому +360

    Pretty sure this is what Mary Shelley was trying to warn us about when she wrote Frankenstein

    • @puppyqueen5688
      @puppyqueen5688 9 місяців тому +30

      No frankenstine was about not being cruel to people who look different

    • @appletunisheccincute6253
      @appletunisheccincute6253 9 місяців тому +51

      But can Frankenstein's monster play Doom?

    • @maximusheaton8375
      @maximusheaton8375 7 місяців тому +24

      @@puppyqueen5688while yes, that’s a very surface level interpretation. Mary Shelley was a romantic who opposed the enlightenment, Industrial Revolution, and heroic era of medicine. Frankenstein was written as a ‘cautionary tale’ about the dangers of pushing science too far which was happening at the time. The monster is a physical representation of the horrors that happen when science is pushed too far, these horrors (the monster) eventually catching up with humanity (Frankenstein and his family being killed)

    • @willambernahecooking4036
      @willambernahecooking4036 7 місяців тому +17

      Nope. Wrong. She finished Frankenstein in 1817. DOOM was released in 1993. Mary Shelley never played DOOM.

    • @lamechial
      @lamechial 7 місяців тому +6

      @@willambernahecooking4036No way, really???? I thought the first installment of DOOM came out in the 1800s!!!

  • @puppetmon9687
    @puppetmon9687 Рік тому +757

    Damn, Doom truly is the universal videogame, it can be played in anything that can generate electricity

    • @BassoeG
      @BassoeG Рік тому +63

      Too limited, someone ought to see if they can run Doom on a clockwork Babbage Engine.

    • @TheLostBijou
      @TheLostBijou Рік тому +7

      Well, there are A FEW requirements...but...yeah.

  • @azraelcorvo9087
    @azraelcorvo9087 Рік тому +458

    I didn't realize until the start of this video, but a meat robot is basically a homunculus. Crazy how sometimes science loops back abound to its historical roots in alchemy.

    • @dejavuism
      @dejavuism Рік тому +15

      If this is a homunculus, then so are things like ChatGPT and all the other AIs. Hell, our CPUs and GPUs probably count as well, with the amount of 'neurons' and 'connections' it has. This video really had me thinking on the nature of conciousness and humanness.

    • @azraelcorvo9087
      @azraelcorvo9087 Рік тому +49

      @dejavuism I'd say current AI tech isn't really anywhere close to complex enough to be considered conscious though. And while a GPU might have a lot of connections, I wouldn't consider it a homunculus either. I think the meat robot is close to the idea of a homunculus because of its organic nature, what with alchemical homunculi being artificial humans and all.

    • @DG-iw3yw
      @DG-iw3yw Рік тому +2

      well, the capabilites lie in different areas, the brain is more complex and powerful than our ai, yes, but ai is seldom delusional or willfully ignorant id imagine too...Plus human error and all its nuances

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Рік тому +3

      @@DG-iw3yw I was about to [jokingly] say "uhh I'm pretty sure ChatGPT has been both delusional and willfully ignorant"... but if anything, that actually reinforces your point 😂
      (and to the inevitable nerd that comes along to tell me that chatGPT wasn't _actually_ delusional or willfully ignorant: shut up. just.. shut up )

    • @cowsrbeefy
      @cowsrbeefy Рік тому +1

      styropyro quote

  • @aakashsahani2991
    @aakashsahani2991 Рік тому +454

    "You can grow neurons from skin cells"
    I certainly need to do that to myself

    • @vanconojl
      @vanconojl Рік тому +2

      xD

    • @orthotron
      @orthotron Рік тому +13

      Too much skin and not enough brain?

    • @MatthewConnellan-xc3oj
      @MatthewConnellan-xc3oj Рік тому +5

      @@orthotronyes

    • @catatoblob8598
      @catatoblob8598 Рік тому +1

      That's terrifying. Most people have "just enough skin"

    • @orthotron
      @orthotron Рік тому +1

      @@catatoblob8598 you can harvest your own skin, just let it grow back each time

  • @lilliecelestedavis7968
    @lilliecelestedavis7968 9 місяців тому +628

    making the biomechanical brain ai orgasm every time it kills something couldn’t possibly go wrong

  • @piorewrzece
    @piorewrzece Рік тому +266

    If this end up taking over the world I better tip it. Who knows maybe it would remember me in those tiny neurons

    • @Nov1cegg
      @Nov1cegg Рік тому +6

      Hey, just for insurance purposes, I love you tiny neurons

    • @samijacquin8814
      @samijacquin8814 Рік тому +1

      i get basilisk of roko vibes here ...

  • @ruff1e
    @ruff1e Рік тому +4153

    At this point the doom community will overtake the science community technologically very soon

    • @swalke6861
      @swalke6861 Рік тому +138

      Can we play doom inside our eyes find out in 10-50 years

    • @thespaceman8231
      @thespaceman8231 Рік тому +81

      Can we play doom in our sleep?

    • @johnconnorstopskynet
      @johnconnorstopskynet Рік тому +66

      Thats when the interdimensional gates to hell will open for real lmao

    • @doomtrooper3184
      @doomtrooper3184 Рік тому +8

      And the Divinity Machine will exist... Probably.

    • @ulamoggyre958
      @ulamoggyre958 Рік тому +3

      @@thespaceman8231 yes

  • @mekingtiger9095
    @mekingtiger9095 Рік тому +1026

    Honestly, the concept of growing actual organic brains, even minituarized ones, with just a few cells or loose tissues grown artificially out of an actual organism to do tasks or control a computer sounds FAR more terrifying than the digital AIs...

    • @subbot8077
      @subbot8077 Рік тому +85

      that’s basically the plot of Bladerunner lmao

    • @weirdojo2392
      @weirdojo2392 Рік тому +70

      It's conceptually uncanny

    • @GodOfLovers1111
      @GodOfLovers1111 Рік тому +5

      Yes

    • @DaTLMusic
      @DaTLMusic Рік тому +18

      ​@@subbot8077you mean psycho pass right

    • @shweedy_
      @shweedy_ Рік тому +12

      its not terrifying, its exciting

  • @cream5439
    @cream5439 9 місяців тому +26

    babe wake up new horrific state of consciousness just dropped

  • @Marzipannn
    @Marzipannn Рік тому +1594

    Adding "making home grown brain cells remember doom mechanics" to my list of man made horrors no longer beyond imagination

    • @BiggityBoggity8095
      @BiggityBoggity8095 Рік тому +27

      Putting here cuz no responses
      OP is factually wrong when he says that doom is only 2d. The game is legitimately 3 dimensional.

    • @Mrree250
      @Mrree250 Рік тому +29

      Imagine what governments around the world are doing in a deep dark lab somewhere

    • @Natsukashii-Records
      @Natsukashii-Records Рік тому +10

      @@Mrree250 Remaking old non threatening dog viruses into human-spread diseases?

    • @Mrree250
      @Mrree250 Рік тому +5

      @@Natsukashii-Records ☺️not the government silly! They would never do such an awful thing

    • @mohandamrouche7470
      @mohandamrouche7470 Рік тому

      @@BiggityBoggity8095 Okay can i have your truth about what you claim ?? Because i never played dooms but have digg into a lot a video that explain dooms ! And to what i know it is not 3d at all ! Only 2d image pre selected through the view of the player to only render a multi 2d image "collage" or paste together ! That why dooms can be play on a electronic pregnancy test of even electric thermometer ! And if you say well there is stair and level .... Well yes but it still in 2d ! When you use a elevator or a doors sometime the game teleport you to a another location in a 2d map ! what you see is only a 2d rendering and the clever trick of John carmack (wich is not is own idea there is a github explain the code to anyone with a goode levl in math ) is to only a reverse square formula to skip the impossible 3d rendering they were aiming to do ! Just think about it it was a time were Graphic card wasnt even at 1gig of ram for the randoms pc owner ! But i'll be more than happy to be wrong and learn a feww things about it ! But i'm sure the first 3d engine weren't 3d at all and use a trick to rendering false 3d ! You know that's why you can't have bullet impact on the wall or smoke grenade ... it's particule rendering or 3d object with own physic wich the game can copy and lie about but can not do by the way redering doom is ; Just like the video say the game is 2d :/

  • @Cesar-ot1xk
    @Cesar-ot1xk Рік тому +1699

    New episode of manmade horrors beyond my comprehension, good work, greetings from Spain

    • @timmutaja5687
      @timmutaja5687 Рік тому +163

      I think that the explanations are quite excellent, therefore making them man-made horrors within my comprehension ://

    • @Ennarmreal
      @Ennarmreal Рік тому +34

      I'm so sorry, hope you make it out of there

    • @uis246
      @uis246 Рік тому +5

      Noone expects Spanish Inquisition

    • @Soul4007.
      @Soul4007. Рік тому +3

      Arriba España!

    • @Gsus__17
      @Gsus__17 Рік тому +1

      Sabes de algún canal o blog sobre ciencia neuronal o organoides neuronales en español? El tema me parece alucinante

  • @Nerdnumberone
    @Nerdnumberone Рік тому +2310

    How complex does an array of rat neurons have to get before "negative reinforcement" becomes "pain"?

    • @Nerdnumberone
      @Nerdnumberone Рік тому +368

      Also, does using human neurons matter at this point, or is it more a matter of how many neurons you can cram into it?

    • @the_devolper
      @the_devolper Рік тому +364

      @@Nerdnumberone I would assume human neurons are better at doing what they do because they need to organize in a more complex way in the brain and so they are better at creating useful connections... As for the pain thing I think that you would need to have a real brain to have the "pain problem": it would have to be really complex to begin suffering I think, and also if you tune the system right even if it had self consciousness (that I think is needed to suffer) you would not need to make it really suffer: it's enough to make an error create an unpleasant situation and a correct response a pleasant one I think, no need for pain

    • @coyotedomino
      @coyotedomino Рік тому +332

      @@the_devolper all things suffer, on with the torture

    • @tennicksalvarez9079
      @tennicksalvarez9079 Рік тому +64

      @@coyotedomino brutal bro brutal.... Love it

    • @feuerling
      @feuerling Рік тому +354

      A brain can't actually feel pain. It would need pain receptors.

  • @mehreganzare7658
    @mehreganzare7658 11 місяців тому +65

    This video made me cry. Thank you, you give me hope that although I'm stuck with a crappy lab and professors, there are still real scientists out there doing real scientific experiments.

    • @gunkwizardry
      @gunkwizardry 8 місяців тому +5

      I totally feel this, currently taking gen chem and my lab instructor is awful

  • @seleckt6600
    @seleckt6600 Рік тому +5442

    Ah yes. One more step towards servitors and man made horrors beyond our comprehension. Excellent work.

    • @rinoksilpshiknimenyaa
      @rinoksilpshiknimenyaa Рік тому +84

      Black mirror for real

    • @realxrust
      @realxrust Рік тому

      @@Fangyuan838you reminded me of the SOMA game, you should probably check it out if you haven’t. Touches upon storing your mind as a file.

    • @sofieselene
      @sofieselene Рік тому +54

      Man made horrors beyond our comprehension - or wonders beyond our comprehension. It just depends on whether humanity continues to value human/sentient rights.

    • @davidf2244
      @davidf2244 Рік тому +3

      Sick. I don't believe experience is sacred if it even exists in some meaningful way. So bring it

    • @wyldelf2685
      @wyldelf2685 Рік тому +5

      Remember the AI replicators on StarGate SGI ???

  • @zoz2124
    @zoz2124 Рік тому +803

    As a PhD student in biomedical engineering focusing on stem cells and blood vessel organoids, this series is a awesome to watch and gives me a lot of ideas to try!

    • @jan-Sopija
      @jan-Sopija Рік тому +41

      oh no a smart person

    • @starblight22
      @starblight22 Рік тому +8

      I find this stuff fascinating, i have one more year of high-school and plan on going into biomedical engineering, i feel i know what it's about pretty well but I'd love if you could spare the time to explain some of the things you and/or your colleagues do in as much detail you seem fit. Thanks in advance.

    • @jan-Sopija
      @jan-Sopija Рік тому +3

      @@Jason-rp3jg no but they might actually do something with this idea instead of "can you run doom on a brain" (and j realise that theyre making the brain cells play doom instead of run it I used 'run doom' to emphasize the meme origin of this)

    • @beaclaster
      @beaclaster Рік тому +1

      oh no I'm scared of what your ideas may be

    • @starblight22
      @starblight22 Рік тому +2

      @@jan-Sopija yeah like helping paralyzed people interact with the world in unique and useful ways. The applications of using cells with computers and stuff as well as modifying them are endless.

  • @toul100
    @toul100 Рік тому +2632

    The fact that the last living memories of this rats brain is quite literally a hell on earth is crazy.

    • @robinvegas4367
      @robinvegas4367 Рік тому +109

      *mars

    • @SobeCrunkMonster
      @SobeCrunkMonster Рік тому +239

      a bundle of neurons is not going to be formulating conscientious memories or thoughts or feelings.

    • @chilling_at_pontiff
      @chilling_at_pontiff Рік тому +263

      ​@Nobddylet me lower your neuron count to >2000 ,and see how much you remember

    • @noahboucher125
      @noahboucher125 Рік тому +56

      ​@@chilling_at_pontiffThe number of cells has very little to do with their function. A dog's brain is way bigger than a rat's, but they aren't significantly smarter.

    • @Bumblebee2361
      @Bumblebee2361 Рік тому +9

      ​@@SobeCrunkMonster I was actually pretty worried about this. Thank you.

  • @TheLonelyStreetLight
    @TheLonelyStreetLight 10 місяців тому +34

    “Though unlike the missile the array doesn’t know where it is” bro I just got flashbacks of that missile meme

  • @JustWhyFFS
    @JustWhyFFS Рік тому +1109

    Think we've finally taken the old "yea, but can it run doom?" meme, far enough

    • @blackshard641
      @blackshard641 Рік тому +4

      lol

    • @Numbabu
      @Numbabu Рік тому +128

      Can’t wait to get the new doom port installed in my frontal cortex

    • @Paul_Bedford
      @Paul_Bedford Рік тому +65

      No. Until we design the universe to play doom, we will never be finished.

    • @BobbyBlockable
      @BobbyBlockable Рік тому +39

      They were so focused on seeing if it could run Doom they didn't stop to think should it run Doom

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert Рік тому +12

      No, that would involve removing someone's brain and spinal cord and using that to play Doom.

  • @davidcotham1939
    @davidcotham1939 Рік тому +596

    Imagine having different batches compete against each other in Quake. Then through years of tweaking and improving generations of this, you create the ultimate force of gaming neurons.

    • @Dengar97
      @Dengar97 Рік тому +42

      Or you could take the best specimens and turn them against actual people to conquer the world.

    • @LtdJorge
      @LtdJorge Рік тому +19

      ​@@Dengar97they would only know how to play Quake, tho!

    • @accuratehvacr
      @accuratehvacr Рік тому +2

      Ultimate war machine

    • @Darth_Bateman
      @Darth_Bateman Рік тому +3

      @@Dengar97I don’t want to take the best specimens and turn them against actual people, Spider-Man!

    • @przemysawnowakowski
      @przemysawnowakowski Рік тому +6

      And then release them into multiplayer

  • @kingmonkey460
    @kingmonkey460 Рік тому +797

    This is absolutely stunning on my opinion. The fact that this can be a real, living thing with very primitive intelligence, and it learns how to play a geme. But at the same time, this is funny because just imagine you wake up and you're just Doom guy

    • @Twekion
      @Twekion Рік тому +91

      This is what the neurons are experiencing
      "You have been selected to become Doomguy!"
      "Huh, what???"

    • @elfstar7514
      @elfstar7514 Рік тому +49

      @@Twekion what if neurons could learn to make UA-cam comments. anyone one of us could just be a pile of bottled robot flesh and no one would know

    • @manuell3505
      @manuell3505 Рік тому +19

      It's highly exaggerated. Most functioning, like the idea of aiming and firing is based on binary computer logic. Only dedicated decision-making might add a tiny bit to what otherwise would be a program with some RNG-trickery.

    • @armanazmiibnamin1108
      @armanazmiibnamin1108 Рік тому +14

      @@manuell3505 You missed the joke buddy 😅

    • @manuell3505
      @manuell3505 Рік тому +3

      @@armanazmiibnamin1108 And that is? Calling bs...

  • @VaImorian
    @VaImorian 7 місяців тому +13

    Halfway through the video I forgot the whole purpose of this video and was just really fascinated about it all and then I was like "wait this dood is gonna play DOOM on these things lmfao"

  • @jackpfefferkorn3734
    @jackpfefferkorn3734 Рік тому +1084

    Everybody was asking "Can it run DOOM?" But nobody thought to ask "Can I run DOOM?"

    • @CarlHedgehog
      @CarlHedgehog Рік тому +51

      e1m1 starts playing (in my mind)

    • @The_OwO_Shogun
      @The_OwO_Shogun Рік тому +9

      Can you?

    • @Hexagons7
      @Hexagons7 Рік тому +9

      @@The_OwO_Shogun yes

    • @hiphyro
      @hiphyro Рік тому +26

      i think if you can play doom you can run doom because you're experiencing it which I think would mean you're simulating what you're experiencing in your head (to some degree)

    • @apIthletIcc
      @apIthletIcc Рік тому +2

      The answer is yes.

  • @barry6541
    @barry6541 Рік тому +946

    Now you should turn it into a computer that can render a CGI spinning rat

    • @TheGuyWhoComments
      @TheGuyWhoComments Рік тому +55

      Make the rat make a program architecture capable of making architecture to create more rat programs

    • @kentozapater8972
      @kentozapater8972 Рік тому +40

      Imagine you just gain consciousness and you see your rat mother spinning into the void with a tpose

    • @TheGuyWhoComments
      @TheGuyWhoComments Рік тому +12

      @@kentozapater8972 for all you know I’m actually spinning rat that’s been given UA-cam access

    • @Partyturtle357
      @Partyturtle357 Рік тому +12

      I USED THE RAT TO MAKE THE RAT

    • @TheGuyWhoComments
      @TheGuyWhoComments Рік тому

      @@Partyturtle357 yes

  • @_Tesseract
    @_Tesseract Рік тому +760

    We're just a bunch of neurons watching a bunch of neurons growing a bunch of neurons to play doom

    • @coolchannelyt
      @coolchannelyt Рік тому +41

      But can it run Doom?

    • @ujvarig74
      @ujvarig74 Рік тому

      Nice joke! 😂

    • @Jakub98x
      @Jakub98x Рік тому

      Ever tried dmt?

    • @_Tesseract
      @_Tesseract Рік тому

      @@Jakub98x how would I ever be able to afford that

    • @ujvarig74
      @ujvarig74 Рік тому +1

      @@_Tesseract I don't think it's unaffordable lol

  • @TheOnlyBiodude
    @TheOnlyBiodude 6 місяців тому +13

    I made this game called life and forced millions of meat computers to play it. It was pretty epic.

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 Рік тому +759

    Imagine creating what is essentially a completely organic supercomputer just to play Doom

    • @superlexaan_
      @superlexaan_ Рік тому +34

      You might like playing Rain World then!

    • @superlexaan_
      @superlexaan_ Рік тому +13

      You might like playing Rain World then!

    • @PoopooTf2
      @PoopooTf2 Рік тому +5

      You might like playing rainworld then!

    • @psychicchicken5263
      @psychicchicken5263 Рік тому +8

      You might like playing Rain World then!

    • @basicmudkip5985
      @basicmudkip5985 Рік тому +4

      You might like playing Rain World then!

  • @thetheinen8419
    @thetheinen8419 Рік тому +336

    I don't think Carmack or Romero could have ever have predicted that people would do this with their game

  • @RandumbPersun
    @RandumbPersun 11 місяців тому +1704

    3 questions of the internet:
    Can it play doom?
    can it show bad apple?
    can it sound out megalovania?

    • @Alexandrek1922
      @Alexandrek1922 11 місяців тому +91

      Can it rick roll

    • @vonelgamer3071
      @vonelgamer3071 11 місяців тому +64

      Can
      It
      Squirt?

    • @unknownvariable2456
      @unknownvariable2456 11 місяців тому

      You forgot one
      Is there p*rn of it?

    • @Shinkajo
      @Shinkajo 10 місяців тому +41

      Does it blend?

    • @Swagpion
      @Swagpion 10 місяців тому +39

      Bad apple is the least impressive, megalovania requires some effort, and doom requires the most computing power.

  • @sevs9550
    @sevs9550 29 днів тому +3

    I'm gonna be mad if my entire existence is just a rat neuron running a simulation

  • @matthewpritchard9777
    @matthewpritchard9777 Рік тому +901

    i remember watching the rat cells control the flight simulator like 17 years ago on the science channel. i'm so glad that you have revived this and brought it back to people's attention.

    • @socialgutbrain7774
      @socialgutbrain7774 Рік тому +18

      That was 17 years ago?! Holy shi

    • @matthewpritchard9777
      @matthewpritchard9777 Рік тому +11

      @@socialgutbrain7774 apparently it happened all the way back in 2004

    • @firek9195
      @firek9195 Рік тому +3

      @@socialgutbrain7774 we are far behind actually development of science

    • @eldiospalomo2334
      @eldiospalomo2334 Рік тому +5

      ​@@matthewpritchard9777then it happened 19 years ago

    • @thearpox7873
      @thearpox7873 Рік тому +1

      @@firek9195 What do you mean by that?

  • @s.r.howell1297
    @s.r.howell1297 Рік тому +638

    I've got a feeling that DOOM is going to be a test of choice for the next 1000 years.

    • @muguly4591
      @muguly4591 Рік тому +14

      In the next 1000 years humans will be the test choice

    • @ClancayCargo
      @ClancayCargo Рік тому +6

      @@muguly4591we already are the test of choice.

    • @muguly4591
      @muguly4591 Рік тому +5

      @@ClancayCargo yeah but it's getting worse and worse and people are going to normalize it and then we're screwed

    • @Stetch42
      @Stetch42 Рік тому +2

      That or Skyrim

    • @Pablo-zx6ki
      @Pablo-zx6ki Рік тому +5

      Doom is eternal

  • @AppliedScience
    @AppliedScience Рік тому +273

    Fascinating work, man! I'm really glad and impressed to see your progress.

  • @relixnova251
    @relixnova251 11 місяців тому +75

    Aw sweet man made horrors beyond my comprehension *sick heavy guitar riff*

  • @thewizardtk
    @thewizardtk Рік тому +2476

    Imagine a whole room filled with irrigated brain mass used as an advanced AI system… Kind of horrific if you think about it

    • @kylehankins5988
      @kylehankins5988 Рік тому +241

      Yeah it would be pretty fucked up if that thing was actually sentient, if not I guess it’s fine

    • @benjaminmiller3620
      @benjaminmiller3620 Рік тому +41

      Read any Peter Watts?

    • @soldierinsane2689
      @soldierinsane2689 Рік тому +131

      There’s so much potential here, this development could usher in a new age. Giant mother brain computer mechs

    • @jacobydotwin
      @jacobydotwin Рік тому +115

      imagine playing the next cod game in 2074 using a gaming pc with brain matter in it

    • @maxk5065
      @maxk5065 Рік тому +56

      you mean "psychopass"?

  • @Chris06660
    @Chris06660 Рік тому +291

    the first ever lab grown brain tournament sounds incredible, and I wanna be here for the day that happens

    • @irmatroll
      @irmatroll Рік тому +20

      He's going to Prestige himself into a jar. Worse, he's going to convince his lab partners to join him.

    • @irmatroll
      @irmatroll Рік тому +6

      @@Jason-rp3jg most people today would likely be uncomfortable with the notion of grafting a human brain permanently into a computer. Especially in this format, where it's freedom is so dramatically reduced.

    • @thechazz3230
      @thechazz3230 Рік тому

      ​@@irmatrollIf he and his partners don't have the morality and self control to stop themselves from doing this. They need to be involuntarily hospitalized. They are not well, they need help because this is pure sociopathy and something no one should ever even consider. They have lost it. I hope they realize the consequences of their actions are vile and reprehensible so they can get the therapy and psychiatric help they desperately need.

    • @The1Herton
      @The1Herton Рік тому

      ​@@thechazz3230you can't stop science m8

  • @robertfletcher1871
    @robertfletcher1871 Рік тому +922

    Hold on, so the old-school sci-fi 'brain in a jar' concept might actually be possible? I feel nervous, yet intrigued...

    • @KaizokuSencho
      @KaizokuSencho Рік тому +51

      "Arrooo" - Nixon's head

    • @The_scrongler1978
      @The_scrongler1978 Рік тому +31

      I’m gonna turn into a robobrain

    • @MagnetizedBread
      @MagnetizedBread Рік тому

      lol

    • @kekekessa
      @kekekessa Рік тому +53

      The brain in a vat is a philosophical thought experiment and while certainly interesting, shall remain as such for quite a while, as keeping a mammalian brain alive in vitro would require some substantial leaps in science - not even mentioning the ethical concerns. Grown neuronal networks have nothing compared to the highly specialized cell types, nuclei and networks (and much more) we possess.

    • @Weldedhodag
      @Weldedhodag Рік тому +35

      ​@@kekekessashut up im gonna be a cool robot

  • @sldtyp0
    @sldtyp0 9 місяців тому +92

    Ok so this video taught me something. I have ADHD and get Overstimulated A LOT and when I do it’s chaotic noise and unintelligible yelling. The noise is chaotic and you said that neurons naturally try to avoid that and i definitely avoid being overstimulated so I bet that my brain is trying to get me to un-overstimulate myself

    • @hollypixie4285
      @hollypixie4285 7 місяців тому +5

      Have ADHD and can confirm. When I get overwhelmed, I describe it as my brain going "AAAAAAAHHHHHHH" repeatedly and forcefully.

    • @sldtyp0
      @sldtyp0 7 місяців тому +1

      @@hollypixie4285 yeah it’s like that for me plus like static

    • @jayeisenhardt1337
      @jayeisenhardt1337 7 місяців тому +2

      @@hollypixie4285 Do you also see cowboys singing in the sky?

  • @charlietheuncreative6737
    @charlietheuncreative6737 Рік тому +891

    I am INCREDIBLY excited for these manmade horrors beyond comprehension

    • @lubricustheslippery5028
      @lubricustheslippery5028 Рік тому +42

      He is going to release hell on earth

    • @Lil_Harvard
      @Lil_Harvard Рік тому +63

      Well I can comprehend these horrors just fine, must be a skill issue 😎

    • @mrjoe332
      @mrjoe332 Рік тому

      I might even kiss them on one of their many mouths

    • @sanstheblaster2626
      @sanstheblaster2626 Рік тому +12

      >man-made
      >beyond comprehension
      Pick one.

    • @st.altair4936
      @st.altair4936 Рік тому +20

      @@sanstheblaster2626 UA-cam is man-made, yet its algorithms are not fully understood by anyone on the planet.
      Current LLMs like gpt 4 are also man-made, and their algorithms are not understood at all.
      Man-made =/= comprehensible

  • @PoliceTelephoneBox
    @PoliceTelephoneBox Рік тому +1785

    I'm glad that the path to manmade horrors beyond comprehension is being recorded for posterity on UA-cam.

  • @TheLazyBot
    @TheLazyBot Рік тому +2198

    I demand to see more manmade horrors beyond my comprehension!

    • @brawlstars_SMG
      @brawlstars_SMG Рік тому +17

      thats called death

    • @GMoth
      @GMoth Рік тому +74

      This is a manmade horror perfectly within comprehension, no?
      Sometimes, the things that can be known are worse than the unknown.

    • @tachikomagaming2451
      @tachikomagaming2451 Рік тому +4

      human creation is so beautiful

    • @cobgod1415
      @cobgod1415 Рік тому +3

      I can comprehend this pretty easily so that's your problem I guess

    • @sunnesonne
      @sunnesonne Рік тому +1

      🤓

  • @jaymikevillanueva1212
    @jaymikevillanueva1212 10 місяців тому +22

    I recall in Star Trek, they have something called bio-neutral gel packs. The concept is that neural-based processors which allow "fuzzy logic" for faster processing time.
    This is cool.

  • @natecus4926
    @natecus4926 Рік тому +114

    The fact that you explain it in a way that makes me feel that I can do this shows that you are an amazing teacher

  • @alexchunlin5527
    @alexchunlin5527 Рік тому +777

    I can't believe I'm just a vat of neurons trained in a lab to simulate a life where I watch neurons trained to play doom

    • @robertfox4114
      @robertfox4114 Рік тому +29

      Botlzmann brain-like paradox

    • @venustrap3030
      @venustrap3030 Рік тому

      Stop talking you electron stimulant I’m the one true vat of neurons

    • @ninjapowerx11
      @ninjapowerx11 Рік тому +2

      Literally mythought though 😂 tell me thats not what we are now 😂 they can attach the nuerons to a meat suit or a robot, we are biological technology, biological being what we can "natural" 😂

  • @garrettfreeborn3985
    @garrettfreeborn3985 Рік тому +555

    Doom was all about demonic living tissue being fused to machinery, the fact that its the game you use to test all of this is simply amazing! This project is incredible and I truly believe in the near future it will be fully appreciated. Keep up the AMAZING work!!!

    • @Dejawolfs
      @Dejawolfs Рік тому +20

      i thought that was quake. in doom AFAIK you just straight up murder demons from hell.

    • @NoxysPlace
      @NoxysPlace Рік тому +11

      I thought doom was a game about a guy pissed at demons killing his pet rabbit

    • @donda2111
      @donda2111 Рік тому +28

      @@Dejawolfs He's referring to the cyberdemon, the revenant, the spider mastermind, the arachnotrons, the mancubus and the icon of sin, along with the various instances of some sections of levels having demonic meat tissue growing inside of man made structures and "infecting" them. Pretty much every doom game has multiple bio mechanical demon enemies.

    • @realitynowassigned
      @realitynowassigned Рік тому

      @@donda2111 still NOT the moral of the game

    • @nick.19
      @nick.19 Рік тому

      ​@@realitynowassigned-🤓🤓🤓🤓

  • @hackmaster124
    @hackmaster124 9 місяців тому +8

    It's cool you guys are using Intan. I do neuroscience research at a university and Intan is our go-to for ephys stuff. The RHS system is really nice being able to stim and record at the same time. The amp settling rate sucks though, it's like half a second before the recording signal is reliable.
    We go through a lot of those headstages because we use them with awake rats. Gotta love those NIH grants XD

  • @KirbyFokson
    @KirbyFokson Рік тому +62

    Now I'm thinking "what if I'm just a ball of neurons in some simulation to see how far they can push a ball or neurons?". Right back into existential crisis mode lmao

  • @TheGershon
    @TheGershon Рік тому +495

    So let me get this straight: you guys are gonna grow Metroid clones of yourselves out of your own skin cells, and then train them to play competitive deathmatch against each other?
    Finally, the future's starting to seem interesting

    • @zport1853
      @zport1853 Рік тому +35

      imagine training against a living trained clone of your cells in video games
      or cooping with one

    • @silentwraithgaming8631
      @silentwraithgaming8631 Рік тому +26

      @Blueness1230 we both know thats a lie

    • @Ensensu2
      @Ensensu2 Рік тому +4

      I would settle for sperm races instead of horse races.

    • @gaintslash366
      @gaintslash366 Рік тому +1

      I want to do this

    • @bignuts3430
      @bignuts3430 6 місяців тому

      If by interesting you mean fucked up then, yes, it is.

  • @TheGroundedCoffee
    @TheGroundedCoffee Рік тому +523

    This project is unsettling in the most exquisite way possible and I love it. Giving off heavy "I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream" vibes.

    • @therealspeedwagon1451
      @therealspeedwagon1451 Рік тому +30

      Imagine if a super intelligent AI exterminated all humans except for a select few and they genetically modify them into living computers to live out the pain and suffering of being made up of several trillion wires spread out across several kilometers. That’s what I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is. Seems like something fun the Qu would do though.

    • @TheGroundedCoffee
      @TheGroundedCoffee Рік тому +22

      @@therealspeedwagon1451 exactly. It brings the 'living in a simulation' hypothesis very close to home and I guess that is, to me, the most unsettling part. This isn't fiction, this is becoming reality, right here and now.

    • @hexagon2185
      @hexagon2185 Рік тому +11

      tbh, it isn't as horrifying as people seem to make it out to be. After all, we're literally masses of neurons.

    • @50zezima
      @50zezima Рік тому

      I guess maybe because ive experienced ego death before, I realize how extremely uneducated and ignorant you people are in the scheme of things. Just running in circles, killing things and torturing for eons and eons... Then being killed and tortured by those same creatures... Literally never learning from your own mistakes. Because you are unintelligent, and cringe.

    • @sirllamaiii9708
      @sirllamaiii9708 Рік тому +5

      This is cruelty squad irl

  • @Cat-That-Jams
    @Cat-That-Jams Місяць тому +2

    If it’s hardware, it can run Doom. If it’s organic matter, it can _play_ Doom.

  • @Justin-dv7ul
    @Justin-dv7ul Рік тому +377

    someday these neurons will speedrun minecraft, and beat all the world records.

    • @the_devolper
      @the_devolper Рік тому +10

      I think that it would not be that more difficult than what they are doing (obviously it is incredible in general)(I do not know basically anything on the subject apart from what they explained in the video): I think they would "just" have to make the thing bigger and write some more code that would still be similar, then I think, given that the smaller version works properly, that it should be able to play Minecraft, or at least perform relatively simple tasks in the game, like mining

    • @rach_66
      @rach_66 Рік тому +30

      human brains have neurons, so that's already happening 🤓

    • @TerraKnight27
      @TerraKnight27 Рік тому +21

      the neurons will "accidentally" install drop rate mods

    • @ARACHNIDPARTY
      @ARACHNIDPARTY Рік тому

      @@TerraKnight27waiting for the day the neurons hire a rocket scientist to “debunk” their cheating scandal

    • @kh6853
      @kh6853 Рік тому

      Not sure how they could beat the set seed any% TAS of 20 seconds...

  • @Eutropios
    @Eutropios Рік тому +54

    5:37 Don't think you can slide that meme past me, sir.
    "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't."

    • @helenbooth5109
      @helenbooth5109 8 місяців тому +3

      By subtracting where it is from where it isn't...

    • @mechanicol5685
      @mechanicol5685 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@helenbooth5109 From where it isn't to where it is.

  • @SpringySpring04
    @SpringySpring04 Рік тому +1208

    Its interesting; I think that if the neurons that were being used as the AI to train to play DOOM were to become somehow sentient, that "brain" would, from a philosophical perspective, be able to perceive only the world of DOOM that it is connected to. Really makes simulation theory sound a lot more weird if we think of it in this type of context, lol!

    • @NotVergil
      @NotVergil Рік тому +60

      Holy crap that's a brilliant idea

    • @SpringySpring04
      @SpringySpring04 Рік тому +25

      @@NotVergil Vergil?!!!! lol

    • @icedqq
      @icedqq Рік тому +83

      it only really sees the variables which is a bit scarier

    • @thomabow8949
      @thomabow8949 Рік тому +24

      Referring to the neurons involved as a brain isn't necessarily an appropriate use of the term, though I understand what you mean.

    • @SpringySpring04
      @SpringySpring04 Рік тому +12

      @@thomabow8949 ah my mistake, you're right. I guess I meant brain in the metaphorical sense as a collection of neurons forming one? Idk I'm not a neurologist

  • @Cornyone
    @Cornyone 6 місяців тому +4

    Breaking news: Man convinces a rodents brain that it is the fictional character 'doom slayer.'

  • @lilknox2225
    @lilknox2225 Рік тому +134

    Ayyy update to the neuron project, who else has been waiting for this😂😂

  • @kpunkt98
    @kpunkt98 Рік тому +558

    Love how more creators are embracing where missiles are and where they aren't.

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat Рік тому +3

      ?

    • @ody1canobe
      @ody1canobe Рік тому +73

      @@MouseGoatthe missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isnt

    • @mikuenjoyerXD
      @mikuenjoyerXD Рік тому +18

      ​@@ody1canobethe missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't

    • @lunarology9158
      @lunarology9158 Рік тому +1

      @@mikuenjoyerXDlmao i seen that same video

    • @gaiusfulmen
      @gaiusfulmen Рік тому +16

      @@mikuenjoyerXD By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, it can determine where it was---and where it wasn't

  • @devonmcnealy8900
    @devonmcnealy8900 Рік тому +210

    This is hands down my favorite channel. I can't wait to see small brain play doom.

  • @lua_programmer
    @lua_programmer 2 місяці тому +2

    They gotta make it into an isekai
    "That time I got reincarnated into a rat. Now I play DOOM for the rest of my short live"

  • @EnigmaverseElysium
    @EnigmaverseElysium Рік тому +607

    This reminds me of a thought experiment we had in philosophy, “Are we just brains in a vat?”. This video certainly puts things in a whole new perspective for me.

    • @usmanfatih6436
      @usmanfatih6436 Рік тому +41

      Imagine the rat neurons gain self-consciousness and then thinks that it is in a vat. Then some neurons agree but some disagree, and they/it will never know if it is in a computer. Really bends the definition of reality.

    • @pintolerance785
      @pintolerance785 Рік тому +3

      You took philosophy.

    • @Boiabba
      @Boiabba Рік тому +1

      @@pintolerance785 No u

    • @IscAst4
      @IscAst4 Рік тому

      🥱🥱

    • @stumbling
      @stumbling Рік тому +8

      *PLEASANT FEEDBACK SOUND*

  • @joflo5950
    @joflo5950 Рік тому +208

    I've been looking forward to this project for years. But now that it's here - I think I'm even more excited for IPSs and Brain Organoids. What you're doing in this video is crazy, but I had no idea these things could be done outside an institute or pharma company.
    Please keep up the good work! I don't want to wait a few more years for the next one.

    • @aitortilla5128
      @aitortilla5128 Рік тому +4

      Even if it can be done outside specialised centres the equipment needed is quite expensive so it's not reachable to everybody.

    • @Yuuri066
      @Yuuri066 Рік тому +11

      @@aitortilla5128 the fact that it's available to anyone at all outside of a company lab like this alone is already crazy.

    • @JordanPlayz158
      @JordanPlayz158 Рік тому

      ​@@Yuuri066yeah, and if you can do it yourself, you can share what you learn and such (I'm sure at most of the places with the equipment, you'd need to sign NDAs)

    • @Gustoberg
      @Gustoberg Рік тому

      ​@@Yuuri066 it's mostly because it is an extremely new and unregulated field (new in we're just now getting to grow these) in some years, if shit becomes like chatgpt it'll probably have more regulations

  • @matthewthomas1105
    @matthewthomas1105 Рік тому +359

    Screw AI, this is literal reinforcement learning. I love it!

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 Рік тому +61

      Technically, this is also AI by every useful metric. Artificially grown neurons used for intelligent actions.

    • @Nugcon
      @Nugcon Рік тому +49

      Artificial Natural Intelligence

    • @kilio1948
      @kilio1948 Рік тому +6

      ​@@NugconANI? Anni? Omg

    • @9bang88
      @9bang88 Рік тому +7

      ​@@Nugconit's a servitor...

    • @Imperial_Lizardgirl
      @Imperial_Lizardgirl Рік тому +4

      Nonono this IS Actual Artificial intelligence!!!!

  • @robotmafiagames_theo
    @robotmafiagames_theo 9 днів тому +1

    Scientist: Rats have smart brains and can learn well. TheThoughtEmporium: But can it run doom? Scientist: what do you mean "it"? TheThoughtEmporium: their brains of course. Scientist: what

  • @nc2526
    @nc2526 Рік тому +636

    This could be a plot for "That time i got reincarnated in a video game, but that game was doom, so I decided to live a slow life in hell".

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat Рік тому +21

      yeah, guy might accidentally make doom slayer D:

    • @mordet2
      @mordet2 Рік тому +13

      Damn, sounds authentic.

    • @atleast4566
      @atleast4566 Рік тому +22

      Would we call that a meatsekai? 😆

    • @Electronica27
      @Electronica27 Рік тому +8

      Blended Rat: Blended Rat

    • @Electronica27
      @Electronica27 Рік тому +9

      That time I was put into a blender and transported into a video game world!

  • @josiahvalentine3430
    @josiahvalentine3430 Рік тому +273

    The fact that a possible result could be coworkers having a doom tournament with brain clones is both hilarious and insanely fascinating

    • @Logos729
      @Logos729 11 місяців тому +14

      And absolutely terrifying :D

    • @nikotheoneshot
      @nikotheoneshot 11 місяців тому +5

      my question is would these mock brains reflect their _actual_ brains at all

    • @lastyhopper2792
      @lastyhopper2792 11 місяців тому +3

      @@nikotheoneshot I highly doubt that. For one, these brains don't have any memories from their actual brains.

    • @hae9903
      @hae9903 11 місяців тому +3

      @@lastyhopper2792 But they would be genetically identical. Yes, they're only a couple thousand neurons but you could eventually make them larger. Where do you draw the line from a cluster of cells to a lab grown human without a body?

    • @lastyhopper2792
      @lastyhopper2792 11 місяців тому +1

      @@hae9903 Did I interpret sgtmajorkiwi's "reflect" differently from you?
      Anyhow, the answer to your question is I don't know. I believe the one who is responsible to find the answer to that question would be these scientists who are currently experimenting with biological brains.
      They have the ethical responsibility to prevent a conscious being from undergoing involuntary experiments.

  • @miguelvelez5348
    @miguelvelez5348 Рік тому +126

    There's a trick to increase adhesion of PDMS to glass slabs, which is to treat the glass slab with plasma. Might help with the leakage of the biological glue. Maybe even PDMS serves as a good substitute.

    • @eldenjim
      @eldenjim Рік тому +18

      Leakage of biological glue 🤤

    • @snail2755
      @snail2755 Рік тому +8

      @@eldenjim Mmmm I could go for some biological glue right now

    • @tr3vk4m
      @tr3vk4m Рік тому +3

      Use the Plasma Rifle. Or BFG if you need treat a large number of them at the same time.

    • @0NeeN0
      @0NeeN0 Рік тому

      ​@@eldenjimSorry that I've been mean towards you in comment before, I had too much biological glue and had to drain it.

  • @Chucky5525
    @Chucky5525 2 місяці тому +1

    @thethoughtemporium I downloaded this video to watch on my commute and I felt compelled to come here and write a comment. Watching those fluorescent neurons gave me some sort of nostalgia I haven't experienced before, it was as if the neurons in my brain remember the time when we were single celled organisms and had to work and compete with each other for survival. Seeing those dendrites made me think of the cosmos as a whole and how galaxies tend to form these super clusters that they too are connected to each other through their own special "dendrites" of plasma and magnetic filaments. The saying "as above so below" could not be more true! The work that you are doing is akin to what alchemists in the past have tried to achieve except the philosophers stone in this context is a fully functional cyborg

  • @nithsk
    @nithsk Рік тому +1717

    Imagine neurons being used like this at the scale of the original massive room sized computers from the 40s

    • @Spheraz
      @Spheraz Рік тому +74

      the future of ai?

    • @moahammad1mohammad
      @moahammad1mohammad Рік тому +263

      A giant cave made of living, thinking flesh

    • @Spooky90097
      @Spooky90097 Рік тому +25

      Search "Rain World: Iterators"

    • @Redbird_
      @Redbird_ Рік тому +11

      ​@@moahammad1mohammadsomeone should anolog horror of this theme

    • @iosis9324
      @iosis9324 Рік тому +12

      ​@@Spooky90097It's not a computer the size of a room, it's a computer the size of a city. And in my opinion, Iterators are not exactly biological.

  • @DarkArachnid666
    @DarkArachnid666 11 місяців тому +94

    A lot of people don't know this, but the motor units inside muscles are binary, rather than analog, in nature. That means if you are using 80% effort to perform a physical task and you have 10 motor units, 8 of them are "on" and 2 of them are "off", rather than 80% of each motor unit being "on" like you would probably assume. Not sure how this relates to neurons but I thought I'd mention it.

  • @redtalon8947
    @redtalon8947 Рік тому +547

    Breaking: Game Journalists are officially worse at games than a bundle of Neurons

    • @defintlynoob4263
      @defintlynoob4263 Рік тому +31

      i wont be suprised if a single neuron can beat a team of game journalist in a game

    • @Puddingskin01
      @Puddingskin01 Рік тому +13

      @@defintlynoob4263 A single neuron is still more neurons than a team of game journalists, so...

    • @originalbeedachu
      @originalbeedachu Рік тому +2

      💀💀💀💀

    • @Tom-tg2jl
      @Tom-tg2jl Рік тому +2

      A bundle of rat neurons*

  • @Franklinog78
    @Franklinog78 4 місяці тому +1

    Rat neurons: why do i exist?
    Scientist: to play doom
    Rat neurons: epic

  • @Rhuke
    @Rhuke Рік тому +2144

    Imagine playing a multiplayer game someday, and you just get destroyed by literal neurons
    Edit: Istg people need to understand why I said *literal neurons* and not neurons controlling a human body 💀

    • @soupcangaming662
      @soupcangaming662 Рік тому +158

      To be fair, we are basically neurons making controlled seizures (or shocks, heh) to a hunk of meat.
      Ennard controlling a corpse husk makes more sense now.

    • @amvora
      @amvora Рік тому +94

      @@soupcangaming662just imagine how our flesh is miserable in gaming compared to naked neurones, while we have to see a threat, send a signal for our hand to contract index finger so that we shoot it, neurones basically see threats and shoot immediately

    • @whos_that_one_guy
      @whos_that_one_guy Рік тому +37

      Test tube gaming

    • @wintergreen9949
      @wintergreen9949 Рік тому +63

      ​@@amvora from the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me..

    • @Swingingbells
      @Swingingbells Рік тому +16

      That's literally how it already works when you're playing against your fellow humans lmao

  • @Scronmph
    @Scronmph Рік тому +119

    A rat brain nutting every time that you get a kill in doom is hilarious to me

  • @bens1cultist405
    @bens1cultist405 Рік тому +186

    I do believe a “meat robot” could also be classified as a Frankensteins monster

    • @ElishaFollet
      @ElishaFollet Рік тому +19

      Technically it could also count as a cyborg as well.

    • @cantinadudes
      @cantinadudes Рік тому +4

      True, its literally Frankensteins monster

    • @official-obama
      @official-obama Рік тому +2

      @@cantinadudes he's named frankenstein? i never knew that.

    • @mahadkalam59
      @mahadkalam59 Рік тому +4

      @@official-obama The creator of the monster is Frankenstein

    • @Smokinjoewhite
      @Smokinjoewhite Рік тому

      @@mahadkalam59 They meant the creator of this video, if this was literally Frankenstein's monster then the creator must be Frankenstein.

  • @time_keeper643
    @time_keeper643 8 місяців тому +1

    The human disregard for anything and everything natural amazes me. First me made rocks think, then we created life and placed it into the world controlled by those rocks for out own amusement.
    Great video and great project! I am glad I was able to experience it.

  • @themrworf1701
    @themrworf1701 Рік тому +163

    We tried to do this about 10 years ago at friend's home lab but it was hard for us to manufacture at home a decent PCB net. We didn't have nice low noise amps back then so we said fuck it and connect it to vacuum valve triodes and to the magic eye tubes, so it glowed randomly as neurons would fire. That was a cool looking thing, straight outta Frankenstein.

    • @realchiknuggets
      @realchiknuggets Рік тому +1

      jesus. seek help

    • @themrworf1701
      @themrworf1701 Рік тому +16

      @@realchiknuggets It's not even craziest thing we did.

    • @s43m
      @s43m Рік тому +3

      ​@@themrworf1701 I'm listening....

    • @questmarq7901
      @questmarq7901 Рік тому

      @@themrworf1701 me2

    • @lumotroph
      @lumotroph Рік тому

      Where’s the video! I’d love to see more

  • @1oglop1
    @1oglop1 Рік тому +269

    I can only imagine making a daily smoothie for my new PC to play the latest games

    • @bariumselenided5152
      @bariumselenided5152 Рік тому +43

      I would gladly start feeding my pc if it meant I could play on ultra settings lol

    • @СергійДємєнтєєв
      @СергійДємєнтєєв Рік тому +5

      Maybe for first few years, but then, I think that a "feeding network" will be established. Sidenote: Imagine if living blocks became literal living blocks. Will their walls be out of bones?

    • @mehundmeh5356
      @mehundmeh5356 Рік тому +5

      i Image some cubes only Work with brand smoothie which are kind of expensiv 😅

    • @m0rjjj666
      @m0rjjj666 Рік тому +7

      imagine the little shitter you need to empty after every gaming session

    • @QuixoteBadger
      @QuixoteBadger Рік тому +3

      Like hydroponic gardening, except you are growing an aimbot.

  • @JonBrownSherman
    @JonBrownSherman Рік тому +66

    I love science. Thank you for sharing with us all of your amazing work!

  • @maesdejardin8648
    @maesdejardin8648 7 місяців тому +6

    "But can it play Doom"
    That really is THE benchmark for all things

  • @ultimateo621
    @ultimateo621 Рік тому +133

    I am so hyped for the brain cell quake tournament. I cannot even begin to describe how excited I am.

    • @cwkapiushon
      @cwkapiushon Рік тому

      @duccem2774 imagine cheating with neurons instead of scripts

  • @funtimedavi
    @funtimedavi Рік тому +1454

    I didn’t have fear of AI until I know they’re doing living brain robots.

    • @bananaeclipse3324
      @bananaeclipse3324 Рік тому +78

      The AI will become organic...

    • @Zoruk_
      @Zoruk_ Рік тому +64

      That means we could make anime waifus irl tho

    • @NicCageForPresident2024
      @NicCageForPresident2024 Рік тому +40

      ​​@Zoruk_ and they will destroy you just like a real wife. But worse.

    • @sadrakeyhany7477
      @sadrakeyhany7477 Рік тому +22

      @@NicCageForPresident2024 I don't mind as long as the AI does it looking like makima...

    • @Enzo012
      @Enzo012 Рік тому +21

      But we're living brain robots already?

  • @GhoztlyGhazt
    @GhoztlyGhazt 11 місяців тому +703

    Holy shit real living creatures that can only see DOOM and only live in DOOM forever.

    • @TheCaptNoname
      @TheCaptNoname 10 місяців тому +214

      For them, DOOM is _truly_ Eternal

    • @judet2992
      @judet2992 10 місяців тому +21

      @@TheCaptNonameincredibly underrated

    • @GhoztlyGhazt
      @GhoztlyGhazt 10 місяців тому +22

      And if they escape, DOOM shall be on us.@@TheCaptNoname

    • @wooblydooblygod3857
      @wooblydooblygod3857 8 місяців тому +9

      Pretty sure we have no idea wether they’re conscious or not.

    • @CHICKEN_sandwich_from_ohio
      @CHICKEN_sandwich_from_ohio 8 місяців тому +7

      DOOM IS LIFE