How much is Burning Man and what does it earn?

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  • @ricksundberg5659
    @ricksundberg5659 2 місяці тому +16

    First time I went to burning man was in 1996 and the last time I went was in 2015. Everyone was getting old then, can't imagine how it is now. It just became too big of a pain in the ass, the cost had become ridiculous. Wife and I can go to Hawaii for a week with the cost of BM. I live in the Bay Area so driving to the playa was only 4-1/2 to 5 hours and it is still crazy expensive and preparing for it was time consuming. I burned out on Burning Man and let's face it, no one wants to see a bunch of old people drunk, high and naked...it's just sad.

    • @benduckx9367
      @benduckx9367 2 місяці тому +6

      Same thing with boats and boating at the river. Watching middle-aged people in swimwear and water skiing isn't all that much fun. Sure was when we were 17-35 or so.

  • @speerscom1
    @speerscom1 Місяць тому +1

    I was there in 2017 helping the man crew build the man. I was up there in a boom lift while the giant roof was being lifted on the columns. I work for Heat Heavy Equipment and Transportation. We build the city and the art with heavy equipment. I was out there for 40 some days this year. It takes a Long time an A Lot of people to set up and take down the city. It is an actual CITY with a Zip code that gets built every year! Then Lots of people stay for a long time after to clean up after All the people that aren't as respectful. There is Lots of full time people also to help build and take down this wonderful city for people to experience.

  • @smulismuli7976
    @smulismuli7976 2 місяці тому +4

    Appreciate the transparency Bobby

  • @CCaddy
    @CCaddy 2 місяці тому +2

    Answered a lot of questions I had for a long time. Thanks.

  • @bindumiller
    @bindumiller Місяць тому +1

    Thanks very much for the insider's view of the finances and the whole scene. I have never been and hope to go next year.

    • @paulcolburn3855
      @paulcolburn3855 Місяць тому

      The way I understand it, the cost is predicated on how hot you look and how much people want to bang you. The v1rg1n nerds who are beta males and cucks, they pay full price because no one will subsidize them since no one really wants to be around them. But if you are hot, are willing to parade around naked, and everyone wants to take you to bed, then the nerds (who are the "marks") will fully subsidize you to go there, you only have to sleep with other hot people, and you get to do all the drugs. What a horrible experience.

  • @grantwes
    @grantwes 2 місяці тому +3

    Bobby: yes thanks for breaking down the cost of things. Question how come you don’t do that (cost break down) on the Sailing channel?

  • @sgtmayhem
    @sgtmayhem 2 місяці тому +11

    The art installations would be the only thing I'd be interested in seeing. The drugs, the "music", the pretentiousness, the silliness of the "anti capitalist" mindset when the whole thing couldnt exist without it... its just yet another destination for mindless party people.

    • @benduckx9367
      @benduckx9367 2 місяці тому +1

      I can think of several other places I would rather spend grands on than BM. Sand storms just don't look inviting.

  • @stevej00
    @stevej00 2 місяці тому +2

    Great explanation. It's not quite on my bucket list but it's close.

  • @ducman96
    @ducman96 Місяць тому +1

    Based in San Francisco, CA, Burning Man is a medium-sized non profits organization with 467 employees and a revenue of $46.0M

  • @ckfpv
    @ckfpv 2 місяці тому +18

    Bobby is that a tupey😂😂😂

    • @benduckx9367
      @benduckx9367 2 місяці тому +2

      I think he had his hair cut differently, then died black.

    • @mikehatch2114
      @mikehatch2114 2 місяці тому +2

      Bobby had a hair transplant in Turkey last year. He was open about it.

    • @kevinjoseph517
      @kevinjoseph517 Місяць тому

      @@benduckx9367 dyed

  • @dwight_klaus2981
    @dwight_klaus2981 2 місяці тому +5

    Thanks for all the data. I have often wondered what BM costs to attend. Now that I know, I think I'd rather go to the Caribbean for a couple weeks in an AirBNB , and just watch the BM videos on UA-cam... much less dirty and more civilized.

  • @PurpleMrMojo
    @PurpleMrMojo 2 місяці тому

    My girlfriend and I have a paid off RV and we run a generator the whole time it’s warm out. Our budget from Colorado for just fuel for the event and driving to and from is about $2000 and then we spend another grand on everything else, including food and getting pumped out once. We have an art car we haul out there, the clam, and we camp with the big Shark, and the stingray, all nautical themed art cars right up your alley. Did you mention what the name of your theme camp is?. I’d love a frozen margarita.

  • @raymondpaul123
    @raymondpaul123 2 місяці тому

    I’m sure it was the mud last year that kind of made people cautious but because it got so exciting with the cheap tickets and the best weather ever. I’ve been going since 2005.it’s all gonna get back to sold out I bet by next year.

  • @speerscom1
    @speerscom1 Місяць тому +1

    Very good job for taking your own trash out! Honestly thank you very much for that!

  • @JeffKnoxAZ
    @JeffKnoxAZ Місяць тому

    Go with a hillbilly Margarita machine. Pick it up at Lowe's or Home Depot. A small utility sink and a garbage disposal. Works great.

  • @Ronan1701
    @Ronan1701 2 місяці тому

    Very interesting, thank you Bobby.

  • @tmurphy0919
    @tmurphy0919 2 місяці тому +1

    Seems like you could have saved some dollars by using 2 old shipping containers to build your infrastructure equipment into, if you're going to continue attending I mean. Easier setup and unpacking, no rental fees, plus they'd make a good base for your shade structure too, if you park them apart.

    • @nedhill1242
      @nedhill1242 2 місяці тому

      lol who is going to deliver them? Pick them up? Where will they store them after?
      lol you clearly don't understand the logistics and how isolated this area is.

    • @tmurphy0919
      @tmurphy0919 2 місяці тому

      @@nedhill1242 So how are the portable toilets transported out to the site? By the same size and type of truck that could carry a twenty foot container? Driven by the paid service that delivers and retrieves them? They'll store them at a storage lot/warehouse? Just like they pay for storage now?
      If that truck can't get there, how do RVs manage to do it?
      What logistics? Two containers, two trucks, one destination. How hard is that? It's isolated, not at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. Hundreds of thousands of people have carried out all manner of things so apparently not that hard either. If people are willing to pay the cost, someone will take their money.

    • @nedhill1242
      @nedhill1242 2 місяці тому

      @@tmurphy0919
      You’re clearly missing my point. They’re already spending a lot of money. He doesn’t have an endless budget like rich people. And carrying containers out there is not the same thing as porta potties and tanks of water. And you actually are two hours away from a decent size city.
      So yes. I’m aware that if you have enough money anything is possible. But even the average person that goes out there can’t afford that. It wouldn’t be practical.
      A lot of people think they have all the answers. It’s simply a matter of money. OK, then you do it. As far easier said than done. I understand why you’re talking about certain advantages. But it would cost how much more logistically would it be involved from the planning perspective and again the fact that this isn’t something that would be common or usual the other items were talking about.
      If you live on the East Coast or the West Coast or near a major city, it probably wouldn’t be a very big deal. But I don’t think you’re actually aware of where they are and how containers just don’t grow on trees in many parts of the country and the logistics of that start getting very expensive because again you’re not close to a major city.
      You’re also ignoring the fact, the things he’s talking about, water, toilets, the basics, there are companies that are doing that for other people. They are already coming out there bringing that type of thing. It’s not like they’re doing it just for Bobby . There are economies of scale here. This is why they were easily able to get an extra 50 gallons of water. Water trucks are already out there.
      You’re not just gonna pick up the phone and find a couple of containers and get them delivered out there for a few extra dollars. I can, in certain parts of the country you can rent a container. It’s probably not very practical anywhere close to there. And they already know why it’s being used and where it’s going. Did you not hear how much people wanted to rent an RV in the closest city?
      Also, I’m not even sure they would allow that. That’s another thing you would have to do. Look into that and get permission.
      Yes, of course. Everyone understands if they have enough money and anything is probably possible. But even Bobby is astonished at how much it’s costing and how those costs go up every year and you reach a certain point where you have to have that many people to share the cost but at some point people are like I’m out. I can’t afford anymore.
      And they do pay storage. Not for containers. I’ve driven by thousands of storage facilities in my life. Never once seen a shipping container sitting at one. And storage was one of their biggest expenses. Now you wanna add a couple of shipping containers to that? Paying for that for an entire year just to be used for one or two weeks? Again, if you’re rich is probably no big deal, Bobby’s making really good money, but Bobby’s not rich. or extremely wealthy either.

  • @therainchannel01
    @therainchannel01 2 місяці тому

    great video thanks for posting

  • @raymondpaul123
    @raymondpaul123 2 місяці тому

    Yeah, great video I would like to defend the porta potty as you make them sound pretty gross however. They keep them up really well and around the dance camps on a Thursday Friday Saturday night. They’re pretty bad.
    but you go in on any of the streets and they’re good and there are some that are well manicured with themes like Elvis or ABBA or Bunnies Christmas. It’s anyway it’s a lot of fun so don’t let that discourage you from going if you can’t afford a motorhome. A trailer without a bathroom is fun too. I’ve done that. Never had a problem with the port potties.

  • @vincentgiasson7551
    @vincentgiasson7551 2 місяці тому +6

    Here are 32 key members and their salaries (Burning Man Project's CEO's salary is $346,747 and their total compensation is $357,459):
    Marian Goodell (Director/Chief Executive Officer)
    Compensation: $346,747
    Related: $0
    Other: $10,712
    Steven Blumenfeld (Chief Technology Officer)
    Compensation: $306,540
    Related: $0
    Other: $13,556
    Harley K Dubois (Director)
    Compensation: $223,396
    Related: $0
    Other: $15,826
    Heather White (Chief Operating Officer)
    Compensation: $224,017
    Related: $0
    Other: $9,180
    Adam Belsky (General Counsel)
    Compensation: $212,995
    Related: $0
    Other: $11,811
    Daniel Kaufman (Director Of Philanthropic Engagement)
    Compensation: $200,535
    Related: $0
    Other: $7,552

    • @SailingDoodlesPodcast
      @SailingDoodlesPodcast  2 місяці тому +2

      Ahh cool thanks for the info

    • @Balnk1326
      @Balnk1326 2 місяці тому

      Well, that doesn't add up. I wonder where the difference from your numbers to the tax return comes from?

    • @vincentgiasson7551
      @vincentgiasson7551 2 місяці тому

      @@Balnk1326 These number were taken on the Burning Man official web site. The tax return is for 2019 and the salary numbers seem to be current. By the way, according to the official web site, Burning Man has over a 1000 employees. So $16,000,000 to pay for a 1000 employees, that's an average of $16,000 per employee, since most employees must be seasonal, for me these numbers are possible.

    • @johanbroman3872
      @johanbroman3872 2 місяці тому

      @@Balnk1326, @SailingDoodlesPodcast at 12:56 you can see BM had 986 employees in 2019.
      2022 tax return is available, it shows 1054 employees with total salary and benefits at over $26.6 million. Executive compensation was $2.4 million.
      Total revenue was over $62.5 million and Net Income over $4 million!
      Also, volunteers at BM don't get paid, but get a free ticket, that free ticket can be listed as "other compensation" shown on line 15 "Salaries, other compensation, employee benefits".

    • @PurpleMrMojo
      @PurpleMrMojo 2 місяці тому

      @@Balnk1326dpw

  • @vr5436
    @vr5436 Місяць тому

    How do I become part of your camp?!?

  • @jeffbarta6276
    @jeffbarta6276 Місяць тому

    thanks !!!! great video......

  • @klif_n
    @klif_n 2 місяці тому +8

    That is a crap load of money to wonder around in the dust. Heck, you can roll in a muddy puddle in my back yard for just $200!

  • @christenuta3743
    @christenuta3743 2 місяці тому +9

    Why would anyone go to this?

    • @360Rosso
      @360Rosso 2 місяці тому

      It's for druggies and sex addicts.

  • @laurahiggins4712
    @laurahiggins4712 2 місяці тому

    Does your RV get damaged from all the dust? Any special cleaning necessary?

    • @SailingDoodlesPodcast
      @SailingDoodlesPodcast  2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah it takes a lot of cleaning. I put plastic over the carpet and cover all the furniture with drop clothes. It takes a full day of cleaning just for the inside

  • @curtiscagle6261
    @curtiscagle6261 2 місяці тому +3

    Burning man has gotten overly commercialized and ticket prices are too expensive. Average spending per person is 2500 dollars ?

  • @manie54321
    @manie54321 Місяць тому

    🌷Thank You🌻

  • @4RXLA
    @4RXLA 2 місяці тому +6

    Sounds like too much money to me, but as you said, Burning Man is whatever you make it to be. I’d rather take a 7 day cruise for that amount of money.

    • @davemiller9314
      @davemiller9314 2 місяці тому +3

      I'd rather do ANYTHING besides that

  • @TheRealGraylocke
    @TheRealGraylocke 2 місяці тому +1

    Excise Police are everywhere. I work in a liqour store; I card damn near everyone; especially people I don't recognize. Even the regulars know they have to show their ID even if for the cameras.

  • @scottidw8415
    @scottidw8415 2 місяці тому +1

    I will wait for Teleportation that sounds like a pain in the ass

  • @dougberry1011
    @dougberry1011 2 місяці тому +2

    Looks like a dirty hole and like last year if it rains it’s a bloody mess. Sounds like a pile of money. Good thing the Patrons are paying for it.

  • @davidanalyst671
    @davidanalyst671 2 місяці тому +1

    How many people who are Genz have 500 to blow? The average house in the USA is 500k btw, and healthcare costs have gone up 5--10% every year for 40 years, including during the 07-08 recession.

  • @greghanaway
    @greghanaway 2 місяці тому +8

    Come on bobby! Stop with the dye job.

  • @jaysoncody8716
    @jaysoncody8716 2 місяці тому +1

    Did you let Laura cut your hair again ? 😆

  • @bigalon3wheels
    @bigalon3wheels 2 місяці тому

    People do what they do when they do things. Burning Man is simply one of many things done by people each year and there is usually a lot of money involved for each event. Not your cup of tea then stay away, but quit complaining about it please. You do your thing and as long as people are not out there killing each other for fun, why complain? It is not my thing but it is for a lot of people.

  • @joemiller1737
    @joemiller1737 2 місяці тому

    I do site services have never been i have reefer service ice storage all you need love your chanel let me know next year will be dificult lmk bobby love to go some day but i make a bit and sail in the winter lol

  • @stephtraveler7378
    @stephtraveler7378 2 місяці тому +9

    it was cool when it started. Now its kinda lame. When try-to-be-hip movies started referencing Burning Man, it ruined the entire event. No one admits to going to Burning Man anymore....

    • @PurpleMrMojo
      @PurpleMrMojo 2 місяці тому +1

      I really don’t agree with you even though I’ve been going out for over 16 years and have done some amazing things out there with friends to participate. My reasoning is that it still is what you make of it and I still have a great time with my old friends doing the things we’ve always done and I try not to let, anything in the media, or people at the event truly influence my fun time. There are amazing people out there and they’ve been going out there a long time and it’s still our event. All the people that come in and out can do whatever the fuck they like as long as they leave no trace and don’t get in my way of fun. It is what you make of itand there’s a lot out there to have fun with

    • @Teddymwenda
      @Teddymwenda 2 місяці тому +1

      Have you been ?
      People talk alot but haven't even been once
      The movie thing is whatever who cares

  • @svenswwis436
    @svenswwis436 2 місяці тому

    These margaritas are they served in one time use plastics?

    • @SailingDoodlesPodcast
      @SailingDoodlesPodcast  2 місяці тому +1

      no, everyone has to bring there own cup. there is no single use anything out there. Literally you carry around a cup with you when you go out

    • @dougallen4675
      @dougallen4675 2 місяці тому

      With plastic straws too!

    • @manie54321
      @manie54321 Місяць тому

      Plastic straws are for challenged adults & babies?

  • @DennisBashaw-r6f
    @DennisBashaw-r6f 2 місяці тому +3

    What is on your head. Weer. Is your. Hair. Don't. Be fake.

  • @victhelam
    @victhelam Місяць тому

    Sounds like your cost was due to your camp's fees, and this video is discouraginng to potential burners. Burning Man can be enjoyed for a lot less, it all depends on your camp and your's charged a whole lot more than mine

  • @ChandraWortel
    @ChandraWortel 2 місяці тому

    50 mil in tickets and 250 mil in avarage expenses wow like wow. Hmmz against capitalism.. stick it to the man. Hmmz thats just crazy. Still some day i will go. I just have to go once. But is will build and help out to save some money.

    • @nedhill1242
      @nedhill1242 2 місяці тому

      This and Coachella are perfect examples of white California progressive privilege and hypocrisy. Consumerism and anti-environmentalism at its finest. These things start out with principles and purpose but ultimately grow into the exact thing the creators hated. Same with Fantasy Fest in Key West.

  • @saputramaulana7731
    @saputramaulana7731 2 місяці тому

    👍🏼👍🏻❣️❤️

  • @HalkerVeil
    @HalkerVeil 2 місяці тому

    They charge you now?
    What did you guys do to the little solstice bonfire group?
    I'm sorry but no.

  • @user-et9ww8do4f
    @user-et9ww8do4f 2 місяці тому

    😊

  • @leetuttle3844
    @leetuttle3844 Місяць тому

    Burning man shut down for good. Most don't know someone is sacrificed each year. Alot of changes next year.

  • @HPD-wv8qu
    @HPD-wv8qu Місяць тому

    I thought it was about a barter system and free love anti capitalist

  • @Matt-e4x
    @Matt-e4x 2 місяці тому

    Party.

  • @outbacktrek
    @outbacktrek 2 місяці тому +2

  • @davemiller9314
    @davemiller9314 2 місяці тому +7

    Absolute waste of time and money....If you offered me $1,000 to go there i would say no thanks.....👎

    • @DrTune
      @DrTune Місяць тому

      Fortunately nobody's going to offer you $1000 to go there, so you won't have to say no, and we won't have to put up with your negativity. Perfect! I love that you've never been yet you're so sure of your opinions; it must be great being so certain about life without ever experiencing it. ;-)

    • @davemiller9314
      @davemiller9314 Місяць тому

      @@DrTune There's enough video and pics to see without being there that its a garbage hole.. But i'm sure you would fit right in..👍 Good luck Tinker bell....😂😂

  • @likearollingstone007
    @likearollingstone007 2 місяці тому

    I only have one question: Why ?

  • @jaysoncody8716
    @jaysoncody8716 2 місяці тому

    If you ask me ! Burning Man doesn't NO longer have any principles !

  • @outandaboutwithsamiam5034
    @outandaboutwithsamiam5034 2 місяці тому

    Deoends on your version of "costs".....

  • @kevinjoseph517
    @kevinjoseph517 Місяць тому

    cost is......................................

  • @RobK-q8fg
    @RobK-q8fg Місяць тому

    Umm. You’re a little old for Burning Man!!!!

  • @jacooosthuizen3593
    @jacooosthuizen3593 Місяць тому

    Afrikaburn is in South Africa is so much better than this burning man. All a barter system. i cannot believe you spend that much and it takes away from the experience of it all!

  • @MK-gr9qz
    @MK-gr9qz 2 місяці тому

    you are a wonderful youtuber... ( maby number one...) but i sense a little socialist in this broadcast... that hat doesn't fit you so well

  • @michaelpatterson-jm8nq
    @michaelpatterson-jm8nq 2 місяці тому

    Well if this is your idea of fun, i get it. But it just sounds commericialized to me, to sit in the middle of a desert dry lake, im not sayin you dont have a blast. it just does not seem like it should really cost that much , to have fun

  • @PurpleMrMojo
    @PurpleMrMojo 2 місяці тому +4

    My girlfriend and I have a paid off RV and we run a generator the whole time it’s warm out. Our budget from Colorado for just fuel for the event and driving to and from is about $2000 and then we spend another grand on everything else, including food and getting pumped out once. We have an art car we haul out there, the clam, and we camp with the big Shark, and the stingray, all nautical themed art cars right up your alley. Did you mention what the name of your theme camp is?. I’d love a frozen margarita.

  • @raymondpaul123
    @raymondpaul123 2 місяці тому +1

    Yeah, great video I would like to defend the porta potty as you make them sound pretty gross however. They keep them up really well and around the dance camps on a Thursday Friday Saturday night. They’re pretty bad.
    but you go in on any of the streets and they’re good and there are some that are well manicured with themes like Elvis or ABBA or Bunnies Christmas. It’s anyway it’s a lot of fun so don’t let that discourage you from going if you can’t afford a motorhome. A trailer without a bathroom is fun too. I’ve done that. Never had a problem with the port potties.

  • @raymondpaul123
    @raymondpaul123 2 місяці тому

    I’m sure it was the mud last year that kind of made people cautious but because it got so exciting with the cheap tickets and the best weather ever. I’ve been going since 2005.it’s all gonna get back to sold out I bet by next year.