@r7calvin it's to make taking vials of blood unnecessary. I remember joining the military and they took over 7 different vials of blood and they had to switch arms because one of my arms was like dried up 😂 That's why
LOL his wife was terrified giving that talk. You can tell she isn't a real CEO. By the team you reach that point, you should be able to speak under pressure about your company. We can tell she was just handed the job.
"Female owned/run" is a huge plus for federal contracts and investors that care about DEI scores. It would have been even better if she was a POC or member of the alphabet squad.
@@Noah_E I ran into that in NYC. A portion of construction contracts had to go to women, minority, or veteran owned companies. The company I worked for was in the wife's name, with a female ceo, but the husband was pulling all the strings.
Have seen this with SEVERAL automotive parts manufacturing companies. Female owned but the husband is the one showing up to work everyday. They get a % of the work simply by checking the box. Fuckin scam.
If I remember the part about the spouse correct Schena's spouse was raising $$$ for FDA clinical trials. This is what medical testing companies need to do. No doubt the US Gov't went through 1,000s of electronic documents but didn't find enough implicating the spouse. The spouse may have known or suspected something wasn't legal but I think fraud charges require proof of intent. I could not find any news about whether the spouse was a government witness or not. I believe the SEC stuff was civil penalties, a few dollars (compared to the 69 to 77 million in Sxhena's crimminal cases) & a 3 year ban.
I worked there from 1999 until 2004. I saw this fraudulent behavior almost immediately. The most toxic and insane workplace environment I’ve ever experienced. He is a monster.
cDNA microarrays are a legit technology that requires small blood samples. That being said finding meaningful sequence probes is extremely difficult and no legit researcher would spout the crap this guy has.
Like Theranos - the company is sued for $$ and not for the potential harm to patients that rely on their b.s. tests. Tells you alot about the priorities in the US justice system
What about Theranos was broken? what about the testing system was broken? It never worked? I just didn't pan out? huh. So Elizabeth Holmes had an idea and a company to revolutionize the entire medical industry and then just completely committed fraud, and you the SMARTES PERSON ON THE PLANET dont see anything suspicious about that. Elizabeth holmes started on her own to build this amazing life changing company, some strange looking indian investor guy just starts appearing at all her press conferences, and her idea just doesn't pan out, and then its all over. You aren't the smartest person on the planet are you?
The veteran stock footage is hilarious to anyone who ever served on a military color guard. THey are using A1 model , not used since Vietnam and widely despised. The position of the rifle is not 45 degree angle.
I've been in a number of Army color/honor guards around the USA. Different units have different arms depending on their METL (and budget I guess). I've carried an M4 and an A1 before, and I've even seen Garands and M14s out there. Oh and riot shotguns too. I have no explanation for that hand being so far up the handguard tho. That's a "one of these kids is not like the others" situation.
He doesn't remind me of Elizabeth Holmes, she was at least very good at her one grift. This guy reminds me of the common internet grifter, that will jump onto any new trend to get a little extra cash, he is just desperate and pathetic.
@@samsonsoturian6013sex appeal?????? i didnt get that vibe from the presentations ive seen from her but i do agree about the appealing to tech giants thing. it feels like every 5 years theres a new Tech Thing that companies will go all in for whether viable or not
Yeah I've worked for a company that was in the wife's name but the husband pulled all the strings. There was a minimum portion of the contract that had to go to female owned businesses
being a conman doesnt mean he isnt educated, the degree helps the con by lending it legitimacy. he probably realized it was easier and faster to make money through fraud, and he had the right characteristics to pursue that idea (like how easily lying seems to be for him)
For years, Dr. Schena had a habit of misleading or exaggerating (at the very least) the company's capabilities. He seems to have "flown under the radar" because it was an unlisted stock and miniscule valuation compared to Thrranos. Then he billed Medicaid for $$$, Federal dollars or state $$, using "interstate wire communications." These appear to be the basis for 6 of the 9 convictions.
it's a TRAP!!k actually, today that's the go=to for the Feds and the easy peasy. even my lawyer the way his office is setup and his accounting I have to WIRE transfer any money that way, even though he's just down the street from me and my bank.
False. Startups do that all the time and many people become rich this way. But of course, you should try to avoid things you dont understand fully. Thats why Silicon Valley companies tend to be the best bet because it isnt too hard to understand code
back when I was working as an IT contractor, i had MANY startups offer me chickens -n- stock options. Hey! Interesting offer, but I am gonna have to serve a bowl of Nope to your offer.
Nah, because pretty much every major player in the automotive industry was/is saying they're gonna have a full autonomous vehicle SOON (TM)... major exception being Toyota (God bless them, thye're the only company with common sense). I remember back in 2013, the CEO of Nissan said they will have full self driving cars before the decade is out. Invoking ghost of JFK much? But at that time I didn't know any better and I was eagerly anticipating watching movies on my drive to work SOON (TM).
It's very close. AI is ridiculously hard to implement. Originally, they wanted to code everything, but later found they needed large AI models with billions of parameters to compensate for unique circumstances. They had to write AI to audit their own data. All of this requires data centers to grow exponentially for diminishing linear improvement.
The wife should have gone to jail as well. I'm not going to research it, don't care about these people that much, but I bet they had kids and there were deals with the prosecutor. She's just as guilty.
@@NealBurkard-ut1oo wife reminds me of the MLM guys; they're always out there knowing nothing, but like Caesar's wife, they will act the part for the free no work ride.
To be fair, unlike Elizabeth Holmes, he had the education and experience and hence some credibility in this field. It is understandable why investors took a shine to him. But for the life of me, I have no idea why they bought any of Holmes' obvious scam
Its sad that fraud never goes out of style. In Silicon Valley the pressure to be rich is so great so many people are willing to risk it all to look successful. Its not fake it till you make it its fake it until you get caught and go to federal prison. I am sure he can help rehabilitate inmates by telling them stories about life on the farm (stanford).
the centralisation of anything is NOT a good idea: i.e. New York and London money, Harvard, Yale, Berk and Stanford et al. being ones the count to get you into the big poker game. Bad idea. We used to joke in poly sic that 600 guys ran the world. Now, it's two, maybe three. !!! plus Putin.
that is... not how that works lol, scientists who specialize in this stuff were saying that theranos was a scam since the start, it was investors (not scientists) who she was able to con. those experts that were calling it a scam were doing so bc they understand the science and knew what elizabeth claimed the tech could do was physically impossible. it is not even feasible in the future you cant test for certain things with such a small amount of blood, but if it was i really doubt no one would believe it bc its something you can objectively test. sure people would distrust it but a machine like that, if it were possible, would be way too appealing not to be utilized lol, it would save a ton of money and work
"...investors would have learned to be more skeptical of fantastic new medical technologies." hahahaha The question to everyone's mind in this practice, is always: "How can I make the most amount of money in the least amount of time?"
The investment bankers, venture capitalists, etc. have run out of ideas, so they take flyers on companies such as these . It's unfortunate, but there is only do much Apple, Google etc stock they can buy when the companies are already overvalued
she so obviously was in with him yet gets nothing. women always get away with their crimes and for those very few that do get caught it just a slap on the wrist.
I disagree it is better to know what disease a baby has beforehand. My niece died last yr of a very rare genetic disease that turned a darling, vibrant, good-hearted girl into a bed-ridden awake "vegetable" whose every waking moment was hell. It was a blessing when she finally died. There are no drugs or therapies that can mitigate any part of the illness. The 1st symptoms showed up at age 17 & she died at 27. If everyone had known what was coming, what would that have done except make us neurotic messes awaiting the inevitable?
"I took out 200K in student loans; How do I pay them back...? I know; Fraud!!!" Crazy thing is, they used to just get away with it..."Roll it up, and split with the cash, leaving the investors holding their bags..." "i didn't mean it; I swear!" SEC should liquidate every penny to re-imburse investors...
If they might get out relatively early for good behaviour even prison won't put off some of these frauds, given the upsides if they are not caught, and they are optimists after all.
What kind of investors are we talking about here? Amateur investors or funds managers? Lots of these finanacial scams involve kick backs to fund managers... It's almost like setting up a b.s. company for ponzi scheme / money laundering.
The wife getting off so easy was just wrong. You know she was in on the whole thing and likely said things that were false. I guess the case didn't have enough evidence to convict her or she cooperated and got off easy, but she still should have spent some time in a prison.
I have very scientific method how to stop people from falling to those types. I would call it something like Sleezometer or Sleezer if it would be app. Lets say its app, it uses a camera and measures the level of sleeze the person radiates. This dude could be good benchmark. I mean i get it is very personal but this dude gives the vibes like "marriage cheater", you know the type that promises alot to chicks, promises bright and comfortable future while "borrowing" all their assets under various excuses.
be very afraid of investing in companies with turtleneck bosses
Who are turtleneck bosses? 😂😂😂😂😂
Like Apple?
More like, be afraid to invest in unoriginal founders whose personality seems to be based on someone else.
😂 exactly 💯
Didn't buy Apple in 2000, huh?
Turtle neck = very sus
"few drops of blood" = very sus
Dude is pulling the Harlain Fontaine look almost perfectly
Also i don't get why that's even desireable. As someone who hates needles, finger pricks are waaay more painful than normal IV blood draws.
Heard a company recently market the few blood drops test concept and I'm wondering who they're trying to fool.
@r7calvin it's to make taking vials of blood unnecessary. I remember joining the military and they took over 7 different vials of blood and they had to switch arms because one of my arms was like dried up 😂 That's why
His voice is not as deep 😂
Lol
Because she faked her voice, strangely
😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah he lacks her (fake) masculinity.
First thing I’m here to hear 🤣
LOL his wife was terrified giving that talk. You can tell she isn't a real CEO. By the team you reach that point, you should be able to speak under pressure about your company. We can tell she was just handed the job.
"Female owned/run" is a huge plus for federal contracts and investors that care about DEI scores. It would have been even better if she was a POC or member of the alphabet squad.
@@Noah_E I ran into that in NYC. A portion of construction contracts had to go to women, minority, or veteran owned companies. The company I worked for was in the wife's name, with a female ceo, but the husband was pulling all the strings.
Have seen this with SEVERAL automotive parts manufacturing companies. Female owned but the husband is the one showing up to work everyday. They get a % of the work simply by checking the box.
Fuckin scam.
If I remember the part about the spouse correct Schena's spouse was raising $$$ for FDA clinical trials. This is what medical testing companies need to do.
No doubt the US Gov't went through 1,000s of electronic documents but didn't find enough implicating the spouse. The spouse may have known or suspected something wasn't legal but I think fraud charges require proof of intent. I could not find any news about whether the spouse was a government witness or not.
I believe the SEC stuff was civil penalties, a few dollars (compared to the 69 to 77 million in Sxhena's crimminal cases) & a 3 year ban.
I worked there from 1999 until 2004. I saw this fraudulent behavior almost immediately. The most toxic and insane workplace environment I’ve ever experienced. He is a monster.
But you still foolly persisted for 5 years
...and almost immediately stayed for 5 years, what a trooper
And you stayed there 5 years???
@@Tracker709 ..and didn't report them?
Did you at least report their ass when you left? I understand work can be hard to find, but still.
I'd want to take a long look at his PhD thesis research
stanford, and other 'elite' institutions, have been churning out quacks and bad science for a long time
cDNA microarrays are a legit technology that requires small blood samples. That being said finding meaningful sequence probes is extremely difficult and no legit researcher would spout the crap this guy has.
If you looked at most PhD thesis research you'd cry.
"... said no venture capitalist, ever," alas...
Complete BS, but Stanford didn't care, because they got their $$$!
Like Theranos - the company is sued for $$ and not for the potential harm to patients that rely on their b.s. tests. Tells you alot about the priorities in the US justice system
Because financial fraud is easier to convict
What about Theranos was broken? what about the testing system was broken? It never worked? I just didn't pan out? huh. So Elizabeth Holmes had an idea and a company to revolutionize the entire medical industry and then just completely committed fraud, and you the SMARTES PERSON ON THE PLANET dont see anything suspicious about that. Elizabeth holmes started on her own to build this amazing life changing company, some strange looking indian investor guy just starts appearing at all her press conferences, and her idea just doesn't pan out, and then its all over. You aren't the smartest person on the planet are you?
They hadn't affected patients yet.
Some things are easier to prove via prosecution. Eg why Al Capone was targeted for tax evasion rather than being in charge of a crime syndicate.
At least he actually had some education. She had none.
And that proves what exactly?
She was much better at convincing powerful people and didn't constantly have to livid to a new grift, like allergy testing and covid-tests.
Fraud is still fraud
That makes it worse. He should've known that it 100% wouldn't work. Holmes knew nothing about the field
@@tropicalpnch4549correct.
I'm disappointed he doesn't speak with an unconvincing higher voice.
The veteran stock footage is hilarious to anyone who ever served on a military color guard. THey are using A1 model , not used since Vietnam and widely despised. The position of the rifle is not 45 degree angle.
I've been in a number of Army color/honor guards around the USA. Different units have different arms depending on their METL (and budget I guess). I've carried an M4 and an A1 before, and I've even seen Garands and M14s out there. Oh and riot shotguns too.
I have no explanation for that hand being so far up the handguard tho. That's a "one of these kids is not like the others" situation.
He doesn't remind me of Elizabeth Holmes, she was at least very good at her one grift. This guy reminds me of the common internet grifter, that will jump onto any new trend to get a little extra cash, he is just desperate and pathetic.
Yes - slick he ain't.
He was better at it than holmes who relied on sex appeal and copying tech giants. He actually did some work in the field
@@samsonsoturian6013sex appeal?????? i didnt get that vibe from the presentations ive seen from her but i do agree about the appealing to tech giants thing. it feels like every 5 years theres a new Tech Thing that companies will go all in for whether viable or not
“It’s unclear why they did this” I actually LOL
@1:20 A Porsche, a BMW and a Benz! Well, at least they were all looking out for themselves!
What, you expect them to achieve greatness while living like paupers? Don't be preposterous!
its 10:28. the only car worth anything there is the white 993 911. And that car is worth a lot.
@@spazzypengin
Surely!
@@CoolHand273
That goes without saying!
The Benz is older to be fair
these kind of scams are getting more and more common in the US tech sector
Not really, they’re going down in frequency over the years.
the wife was the nominal ceo because being "woman-led" is an advantage when bidding for government gibs. this is actually quite common
Yeah I've worked for a company that was in the wife's name but the husband pulled all the strings. There was a minimum portion of the contract that had to go to female owned businesses
2 bad she didnt have a dark tan and bald head and lgbt tattoo on her neck
he should have talked with insane vocal fry
At least he has a post doc
and knew something about the subject matter of the business
Exactly my reaction after few seconds 😅 at least he actually graduated !
Nah calling somone an Elizabeth Holmes wannabe is just foul 💀
Is there a Trevor Milton or Bernie Madoff wannabe out there too lol
@@thevinceberrywhat do they all have in common... they are all jeewish
😭😭😭💀💀💀
What exactly is Stanford teaching? 🤔
How to pass an initial screening. Seems like they don’t teach you much once you get in
Or how to scam?
I believe SBF's parents teach there.... !
@@johns5558 OMG that's right 😮
being a conman doesnt mean he isnt educated, the degree helps the con by lending it legitimacy. he probably realized it was easier and faster to make money through fraud, and he had the right characteristics to pursue that idea (like how easily lying seems to be for him)
"I think I have covid.... Gimme that allergy test, too!"
That's not Elon Musk!
elon musk does brain chips and tortures apes thats different
For years, Dr. Schena had a habit of misleading or exaggerating (at the very least) the company's capabilities. He seems to have "flown under the radar" because it was an unlisted stock and miniscule valuation compared to Thrranos. Then he billed Medicaid for $$$, Federal dollars or state $$, using "interstate wire communications." These appear to be the basis for 6 of the 9 convictions.
it's a TRAP!!k actually, today that's the go=to for the Feds and the easy peasy. even my lawyer the way his office is setup and his accounting I have to WIRE transfer any money that way, even though he's just down the street from me and my bank.
I bought a new black turtleneck top today, and told the clerk I was starting a new job as CEO of tech start-up.
Then we laughed.
If a company ever says they're going to pay you in stock, instead of money, GTFO.
False. Startups do that all the time and many people become rich this way. But of course, you should try to avoid things you dont understand fully. Thats why Silicon Valley companies tend to be the best bet because it isnt too hard to understand code
@@Trizzer89 I am not a gambler. I prefer something reliable.
@@gamingweasel4633 If you're working for a startup, you are probably a risk taker
If you worked for Facebook you would have gtfo at the early stages.
back when I was working as an IT contractor, i had MANY startups offer
me chickens -n- stock options. Hey! Interesting offer, but I am gonna have to serve a bowl of Nope to your offer.
You mean Elon "Mars" "HyperLoop" "Full Self Driving" Musk?
He took “fake it till you make” to a whole other level 🥴
1:00 LOL I love your comparison chart. "3. Completely Fake". LOL
Uncanny resemblance to Elizabeth Holmes.
He looks like the grandpa from arrested development
I thought the male version of her was Musk. 12 years later and still no a full autonomous vehicle.
And thank god for that!
Nah, because pretty much every major player in the automotive industry was/is saying they're gonna have a full autonomous vehicle SOON (TM)... major exception being Toyota (God bless them, thye're the only company with common sense). I remember back in 2013, the CEO of Nissan said they will have full self driving cars before the decade is out. Invoking ghost of JFK much? But at that time I didn't know any better and I was eagerly anticipating watching movies on my drive to work SOON (TM).
Musk has actually accomplished a lot. Holmes never accomplished anything…
It's very close. AI is ridiculously hard to implement. Originally, they wanted to code everything, but later found they needed large AI models with billions of parameters to compensate for unique circumstances. They had to write AI to audit their own data. All of this requires data centers to grow exponentially for diminishing linear improvement.
They’re gonna boo you for this take but you’re right. He is getting more cooked by the day lmao
Their website is still up! And it has a long list of distributors worldwide for their "microarray technology products".
Man… seeing a substation used to represent jail was a trip.
If your employer pays you in stock, leave. If they were making money, they'd keep those.
The wife should have gone to jail as well. I'm not going to research it, don't care about these people that much, but I bet they had kids and there were deals with the prosecutor. She's just as guilty.
She was the companies ceo, of course she had to be aware something was "array".
@@NealBurkard-ut1oo wife reminds me of the MLM guys; they're always out there knowing nothing, but like Caesar's wife, they will act the part for the free no work ride.
To be fair, unlike Elizabeth Holmes, he had the education and experience and hence some credibility in this field. It is understandable why investors took a shine to him. But for the life of me, I have no idea why they bought any of Holmes' obvious scam
It was the turtleneck. It's always the turtleneck. I wore one into a shop and they offered me a million dollars.
@@markhughes2556 when you cant beat em, join em. Guess Ill be wearing one too
channing robertson gave theranos the educational "credibility"
Its sad that fraud never goes out of style. In Silicon Valley the pressure to be rich is so great so many people are willing to risk it all to look successful. Its not fake it till you make it its fake it until you get caught and go to federal prison. I am sure he can help rehabilitate inmates by telling them stories about life on the farm (stanford).
the centralisation of anything is NOT a good idea: i.e. New York and London money, Harvard, Yale, Berk and Stanford et al. being ones the count to get you into the big poker game. Bad idea. We used to joke in poly sic that 600 guys ran the world. Now, it's two, maybe three. !!! plus Putin.
Sometimes I’m tempted to fabricate the resume and career to die for just to see what happens. This is such a disgrace!
What annoys me is that this technology to read drops of blood could be actually be feasible and created in the future but no one would believe it.
that is... not how that works lol, scientists who specialize in this stuff were saying that theranos was a scam since the start, it was investors (not scientists) who she was able to con. those experts that were calling it a scam were doing so bc they understand the science and knew what elizabeth claimed the tech could do was physically impossible. it is not even feasible in the future you cant test for certain things with such a small amount of blood, but if it was i really doubt no one would believe it bc its something you can objectively test. sure people would distrust it but a machine like that, if it were possible, would be way too appealing not to be utilized lol, it would save a ton of money and work
Isn’t that just Musk?
"...investors would have learned to be more skeptical of fantastic new medical technologies."
hahahaha
The question to everyone's mind in this practice, is always:
"How can I make the most amount of money in the least amount of time?"
That's not a wise word if you ever listen to someone who says : "fake it, until you make it".
Why wasn't this story more widely reported?as usual the wife got off far too easy
There are many more....not yet uncovered
You’re not a real fraudster unless you make it to Forbes 30 under 30
It seems pretty sexist not to hold the CEO accountable just because she was his wife. She was the chief executive of the company.
Never invest in a company that employs relatives
Such as Walmart?
People be 🏃 running to those scam from fear of fomo in the next big thing 😂😂😂😂😂
He sure was serious about that combover
The investment bankers, venture capitalists, etc. have run out of ideas, so they take flyers on companies such as these .
It's unfortunate, but there is only do much Apple, Google etc stock they can buy when the companies are already overvalued
she so obviously was in with him yet gets nothing. women always get away with their crimes and for those very few that do get caught it just a slap on the wrist.
I like Mark, he seems like a chill dude
You know you've made it when people put "wanna be" or "fake ass" in front of your name
He resembles Tim Conway from the Carol Burnett show.
Interesting headquarters, I've seen ballet studios with less empty space.
When they say "investors", they mean the guy managing *your* 401K or mutual fund/ETF.
“We’re gonna leverage our technology…” i hate the word ‘leverage.’
Man its crazy people can look you in the eye and LIE like that about something like that. Blows my mind.
I live about 10- 15 miles from Elizabeth
I disagree it is better to know what disease a baby has beforehand. My niece died last yr of a very rare genetic disease that turned a darling, vibrant, good-hearted girl into a bed-ridden awake "vegetable" whose every waking moment was hell. It was a blessing when she finally died. There are no drugs or therapies that can mitigate any part of the illness. The 1st symptoms showed up at age 17 & she died at 27. If everyone had known what was coming, what would that have done except make us neurotic messes awaiting the inevitable?
I guess when the IB's lose money that's when these criminals go to jail. Gotcha.
If "He can't keep getting away with it!" was a person
"I took out 200K in student loans; How do I pay them back...? I know; Fraud!!!" Crazy thing is, they used to just get away with it..."Roll it up, and split with the cash, leaving the investors holding their bags..." "i didn't mean it; I swear!" SEC should liquidate every penny to re-imburse investors...
0:07 "one of the most infamous fraudsters alive today"
Elon Musk: *evil laugh*
Shut up
If they might get out relatively early for good behaviour even prison won't put off some of these frauds, given the upsides if they are not caught, and they are optimists after all.
Unlike Holmes, he is not in the cover of Forbes.
In Mark's defense, at least he finished his degree program. That's more than can be said for Elizabeth Holmes.
Did he just say “Nymphomous?” Whoops, Freudian slip.
What is in the water in Palo Alto that creates these monsters? Said by a UC Berkeley grad ….
the turtle neck hides the turkey neck
There should be an automated fact checker with posts in the future.
At least he is not a college dropout
Oh Stanford - and not to mention your law school faculty.....
Bad dye jobs always scream shady used car salesman vibes
Wait a minute they compare themselves of being better than Theranos. Isn't that a very low bar to go.
I thought that was funny ah
It may be true that there's a sucker born every minute, but that doesn't mean you'll get away with stealing from them.
Fraudsters seem to favor black turtlenecks.
It is rather telling that Holmes would fake her voice as she told lies to all.
If biotechnology companies didn't need to advertise and monitor their website results, then why would companies in this industry pay billions?
What kind of investors are we talking about here? Amateur investors or funds managers? Lots of these finanacial scams involve kick backs to fund managers... It's almost like setting up a b.s. company for ponzi scheme / money laundering.
10:29 such a swish company would at least trim its shrubs 🙄
His voice isn’t deep enough, that is why his scam failed to hit the high numbers of Holmes
we recieve more than a million views - anyone noticed they spelled receive wrong?
Stanford is full of crooks! 😂
I'm guessing he really sounds like Minnie Mouse in real life.
Wasn't Elizabeth Holmes' weird masculine sounding voice wasn't manly enough? 😆
Thats not musk in the thumbnail! He's the male holmes !!!
So what you’re saying is that investors haven’t learned anything…
The wife getting off so easy was just wrong. You know she was in on the whole thing and likely said things that were false. I guess the case didn't have enough evidence to convict her or she cooperated and got off easy, but she still should have spent some time in a prison.
He should be arrested for his combover. 😅
Defrauding investors $24,000,000 for 8 years in prison🤔. $3,000,000 @ year....😶
Holmes defrauded $700,000,000 and only got 11 1/2 years. That's more than $60m per year sentenced
investors prove yet again that you don't need to be so smart to make money. Anyone can truly become rich.
I have very scientific method how to stop people from falling to those types. I would call it something like Sleezometer or Sleezer if it would be app. Lets say its app, it uses a camera and measures the level of sleeze the person radiates. This dude could be good benchmark. I mean i get it is very personal but this dude gives the vibes like "marriage cheater", you know the type that promises alot to chicks, promises bright and comfortable future while "borrowing" all their assets under various excuses.
If you're not cheating, you're not trying.
Comb over = Very Sus
SEND HIM TO THE TRUCK STOP AND RING THE TRUCKER BELL!!!!!!
I thought it was going to be Elon Musk.
The us government is in the same boat
ole 3 strand comb over is a red flag....
Shouldn’t this be about elon musk?
Deep voice?
Actually this guy is the real deal!