I agree. If another player had very comparable offensive stats to Ohtani and was also a great defensive player who helped his team make the playoffs, that might be a worthy choice. But Ohtani achieved so many historic feats in 2024 and with numbers that no one else came close to, as you say.
as for the argument "DH can't win due to not playing the field". That loses all it's steam when the WAR goes over 9. baseballreference WAR for Ohtani this season is 9.3! That's highest in his league. For reference, Ortiz and Edgar martinez never got over 7 war.
It’s mind boggling that you can reach 9+WAR without playing the field… They complain he is “only” a DH. But even in his injured, rehabbing year, he would be playing as if he had his healthy year. Most other FULLTIME career sluggers don’t reach up to his numbers. The guy is in a IL year. The Dodgers are getting a 2-way player kind of number even while injured.
I take many stats with a grain of salt, but that's an interesting WAR number. I believe they also deduct a certain amount from the score for a DH since he's supposedly not contributing on the defensive end. So his number probably started higher than that. But as Ortiz says, there are many other things a star DH does for his team that don't show up in stats. Mookie Betts said recently that Ohtani has carried the team. That tells you all you need to know on top of his spectacular numbers that exceed everyone else in the NL.
Ohtani has 4 consecutive seasons with a 9 WAR. To put this in perspective Hank Aason only had 2 seasons of 9 WAR. Never had WAR of 6 for one season (Garvey, Valenzuela, Brock). Never a 7 (Campanella, Berra, Killebrew, Molitor, I. Rodriguez). Never an 8 (Smoltz, Larkin, M. Ramirez, Ryan, Stargell, V. Guerrero, Murray, F. Thomas, Thome, M. Cabrerra, Posey, O. Smith). Never a 9 (Dean, Bench, McCovey, Rose, Jeter, B. Robinson, Matthews, Kaline, Ott, Winfield, G. Carter, F. Robinson, Sandberg). Never 2 9s (Jackson, Carew, Schmidt, Beltre, Brett, Clemente, Boggs, Griffey, DiMaggio). Never 3 9s (Seaver, Gibson, Koufax, Carlton, Maddux, Palmer, Aaron, Pujols, Ripken, Banks, Henderson). Never 3 consecutive 9s (Clemens, Speaker, Musial, Yaz, Gehrig, A Rod, Morgan, Trout). Never 4 consecutive 9s (Ruth, Cobb, Mantle).
@@Rick-tr6nc Wow! That is pretty much all the greats on the list, and Ohtani had four consecutive seasons with 9 WAR. That's crazy. Ohtani will continue the above 9 WAR over many years to come.
I agree, and David Ortiz makes excuses after backlash of his comments, David Ortiz is sour grapes, the guy had only 2 stolen bases a year and Ohtani's numbers like War is higher than anytime in Ortiz career. The DH in the past were only hitters with 4 or 5 stolen bases, Ohtani has 50 HRs and 50 SBs that's an all around player, plus he's a leaderoff hitter with 130 RBIs, and also led the NL in Runs RBIs Extra base hits Total Bases On Base Percentage WAR OPS Slugging HRs and the first player to go 50-50
If before 40-40 day I can say they can argue but after that day he has awoken like Paul in Dune and went far ahead. If anyone thinks there’s a player better than him this season I doubt the person’s sanity.
Ohtani's stats this year destroyed all of David Ortiz's best years. He was jealous and trash talked too soon and now he's embarrassed but he finally admitted that Ohtani deserves MVP Lmao.
I know there are some Ohtani haters out there because he was the DH, but you know damn well that he is an ace pitcher also, aside from that, he is also the only only player that you have MLB players saying things like this about him, wanting to watch his highlights, saying he is one of a kind. So yeah I'm a fan like most on here and you don't need to like him for whatever your reasons, but it seems that the professionals who play and have played usually say he is the one.
Reminds me of Pedro in 2021, so full of praises of Ohtani in the beginning and then somewhere along the way changed his tune and said Vlad Jr. should be MVP. Same color stick together.
No one is close in the NL. He will win unanimously. In the AL you have Judge, Soto, Witt Jr and Henderson all with elite seasons. But he is the NL MVP no doubt.
I'm not trying to defend him, but the meaning of that was like Shohei is the mom's favorite kid in the house. That's how we Dominicans use it. Was it the proper expression? Not at all. He should watch his vocabulary to avoid situations like this
Ohtani's season is historical. Even if you disregard the arbitrary 50/50 achievement, you add up his total base + SB net of CS + walks, he has 547. That's something only Barry Bonds and Babe Ruth have done. To put in context, Aaron Judge has 535 this season, and in his 62 HR season he had 515. Speed kills, and unfortunately in baseball it is seemingly just one stat while walk impacts all % calculation like SLG%, OPS% etc. One little nugget, Aaron Judge has 22 GIDP this season, Ohtani has 7, that's where speed matters, when you can beat a double play and extend the inning, couple that with stolen base you are back in scoring position, that's 15 outs. His offense production more than outweight not playing defense, which is not a requirement for his position, a position that's required in the game. He isn't hurting his team by not playing defense. He should be unanimous MVP.
@@ST-lb9tt exactly, I am surprised not many experts emphasize that. Walk is the single thing that Aaron Judge does much better than Ohtani, while Ohtani beats him in SB by far. However, SB is one stat while BB impacts OBS, SLG, OPS, making it seem like Judge dominated Ohtani in production, when he basically just walks more. IMO, SB should be factored into total base, and that will give credit to those speedy guys in SLG and OPS.
David Ortiz is sour grapes, the guy had only 3 stolen bases a year and Ohtani's numbers like War is higher than anytime in Ortiz career. The DH in the past were only hitters with 4 or 5 stolen bases, Ohtani has 50 HRs and 50 SBs that's an all around player, plus he's a leaderoff hitter with 130 RBIs, and also led the NL in Runs RBIs Extra base hits Total Bases On Base Percentage WAR OPS Slugging HRs and the first player to go 50-50
People that complain that he doesn’t play outfield! He steal base that force mistake and sometimes they score from it. It happens multiple times, scoring while stealing. That MVP level
The dude is still bitter that he did not get MVP, and one can’t blame him for feeling that way, but he should understand that there were position players like A-Rod who had great seasons when he had his best seasons, whereas this year no one including Lindor came close to Shohei in the National League. There is no equivalent of A-Rod in the NL this year, as Judge and Witt are in the American League.
Let’s admit it he took an L take when he said Ohtani should not be mvp as a Dh. But good to see him back I really like his personality in tv and I totally forgive him on behalf of all Ohtani fans. 😊 we cool papi
This guy is a two face. He was all happy for him in the WBC when Shohei was being interviewed. Then he was sore because Shohei was getting more attention than he ever was as a DH and said if he didn't get MVP, Shohei shouldn't as well. Now he changes his mind? hmmmm. People thought of him as a one dimensional player because he was just that. Shohei is a 3 dimensional player, at least 2 this season due to T.J. Power and Speed. Next season he'll add the pitching 3rd dimension into the mix.
@@boxingandbulldogs6341 Ohtani always finds a way ... haven't you learn anything the past 6yrs? He hasn't regressed in any one area since he began playing in MLB from 2018
Sounds like he got an extra sponsor bonus to change the tune of his opinion about the MVP race. It does sound like a script when everyone is saying Ohtani is MVP, but the numbers do not lie.
I lost respect for Ortiz when he called Ohtani “princess of the mlb”. For one, it’s unprofessional since he’s an “analyst” and imho his comment enabled hate in the game.
@@Tickie82 I think with Shohei's numbers this year, even the east coast voters have to give it to Ohtani, or else they'll be seen as 'homers' who will waste their vote out of spite.
Maaaaannnn... all these hatin' on Ortiz. Stop it. Get some help! All I've got is respect to Ortiz for making adjustments and giving props where they due! That's COMPETENCE in my book!
Ya don't say Is anyone else even close? Like 2 more balls manage to find their way to the outfield grass and he's the first triple crown winner since 1937 I forget that guys name but Im certain he didn't go 50/50 Shohei is so good that once he's gone the mvp award is gonna lose it's validity Who else is ever gonna match his talent? And he could come back next year and win the Cy Young! He's like a super hero that was created by a child with an overactive imagination
Those who say Ohtani can't win MVP because he's only a DH and doesn't play defense are idiots. Why can Pitcher win MVP but DH can't? While Pitcher also only plays defense and does not play attack? This is unfair for the DH position and Ohtani will be the one to open a new era for other DHs in MLB. Perhaps those who hate Ohtani have not heard the famous saying in football (soccer) that attack is the best defense.
Come on, give the guy some slack (at least this once) . Yeah, Ortiz messed up big time, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's two-faced to say good things about Ohtani again. He's probably just too simple minded and too honest to his feelings, I guess. One can admire a person but at the same time feel jealous of him, you know. People just don't say that out loud. Dominicans seem to have this strong comradely about each other (or to Carribeans in general), and when he was interviewed in the Dominican Republic, people around him probably soaped him up real good and made Big Pappi a bit too bold, just like a jolly, bragging drunkard. It's not smart, but it happens. As long as he makes amends, which he seems to be doing, isn't it best to let things go? BTW, Pedro Martinez did the same thing a few years back, and Vlad jr. also kinda did the same, too, but in all honesty, they both seem to genuinely like Shohei. Maybe it's a thing with Dominicans and their personal pride getting mashed up with their national pride when it comes to the MVP debate, who knows? Besides, Big Pappi was never known for his brightness or his intelligence in speech and character. I've been a great fan of Shohei since he was in high school, but I kinda still like David Ortiz for being so carelessly faulty. Of course, the next time around would be another story, though.
Wait a sec...Did he just say if Ohtani doesn't win MVP, then they have something against Asians? Um...He's already got 2...and they're unanimous. I don't think race is much of an issue in this case whatsoever. I think it's that a DH has never won the award and they're worried about setting a precedent without players playing in the field. BUT this year a DH should...Ohtani was by far the best overall player in MLB.
We could be talking about a number as high as 17/18. But it doesn't really matter because he'll never get enough playing time doing "both" to put up those kinds of numbers (on either side of the ball) -- especially playing under Roberts in L.A.
deep down i think david ortiz loves shohei. i think it's more just stirring the pot, cause a bit of controversy, little contrarian doesn't want everyone to just blindly worship him even though we all worship ohtani
Uh, duh. I am a little more ticked as to why a guy who juiced is still being given airtime to comment about legitimate player performance. How he got into the HOF but Pete rose being banned from the ballot is league hypocrisy at its finest. Ok, rose didn't come clean for a long time, but neither did Ortiz and others. They were caught and even then, a number of them still deny it (bonds, sosa, and Clemens, are on the front of that line). Ok, betting was against the rules and PEDs were not. But don't tell me the players weren't doing it to gain an advantage through questionable means. if they didn't, why have so many denied taking them? Not everyone was doing it because they knew it smacked of cheating. They soiled the game as much, if not more so, than Rose ever had. Because of it, so many current records are suspect. And whenever any current or future player makes a run at power stat records, there will be questions raised as to whether they are doing it legitimately.
David been very vocal and showed his love for Ohtani but that one tweet. Bout the pretty girl shit was just out of emotions . I’m sure he love Ohtani like the rest of us .
Ohtani also has many fans in Korea. We have a dark tragic history of experiencing slavery, forced labor, Unit 731 by Japanese colonialists in WW2, which the Japanese denies and has never apologized to this day. But I am glad we can be united in sports.
윤 대통령은 국무회의에서 일본이 이미 수십 차례 과거사 문제에 대해서 반성과 사과를 했다는 말도 했습니다. 앞서 대통령실도 일본이 지금까지 50차례 넘게 사과했다고 밝힌. 일왕과 총리 자격의 사과나 유감 표명, 논문, 보고서, 옛날 신문 등 종합해서 모두 정리해보니까 최소 53차례로 집계됐습니다. 당신은 역사적으로 일본이 50차례 넘게 사과 했다는 사실은 무시하고 무조건 일본이 사과해야된다고 하는데 참.. 그리고 박정희때 사과와 함께 천문학적인 차관 받고 그거로 성장했으면 역사는 잊지말되 서로 교류하고 발전해나가야된다는 얘기 꺼내면 좌파들은 항상 "돈으로 다 되냐" 이런 말 하는데 그럴거면 왜 지금까지도 부 배상금 요구하냐?
In all fairness, Ortiz deserved an MVP or two. He was robbed of an MVP in 2006 when he hit 54 HR, 137 RBIs. They gave it to Justin Morneau who hit 321/34/130. vs 286/54/137. Ortiz should've won the MVP in 2006.
Yeah, that was a pretty big whiff. Did all three of those players' teams make the playoffs that year? Sometimes that seems to play an inordinately large part (I'd just use it as a tiebreaker, at most).
Asians gonna play the race card if Ohtani doesn't win because 99% knows he should win. That just means 1% are racist and in that 1%, most of the voters for mvp are racist if Ohtani does not win. lol😂
Papi is just saying that to avoid backlash but we all know he’s a dodger hater and he doesn’t think Otani deserves to be MVP! Ortiz is a liar and I don’t think is truthful. Liar!!
His MVP should be UNANIMOUS. There isn't even anyone else in the NL you can make a legitimate case for this year.
I agree. If another player had very comparable offensive stats to Ohtani and was also a great defensive player who helped his team make the playoffs, that might be a worthy choice. But Ohtani achieved so many historic feats in 2024 and with numbers that no one else came close to, as you say.
as for the argument "DH can't win due to not playing the field". That loses all it's steam when the WAR goes over 9.
baseballreference WAR for Ohtani this season is 9.3! That's highest in his league.
For reference, Ortiz and Edgar martinez never got over 7 war.
Jesus, Othani's war is 9.1 without fielding or pitching. That's some crazy stats!
It’s mind boggling that you can reach 9+WAR without playing the field…
They complain he is “only” a DH. But even in his injured, rehabbing year, he would be playing as if
he had his healthy year.
Most other FULLTIME career sluggers don’t reach up to his numbers.
The guy is in a IL year. The Dodgers are getting a 2-way player kind of number even while injured.
I take many stats with a grain of salt, but that's an interesting WAR number. I believe they also deduct a certain amount from the score for a DH since he's supposedly not contributing on the defensive end. So his number probably started higher than that. But as Ortiz says, there are many other things a star DH does for his team that don't show up in stats. Mookie Betts said recently that Ohtani has carried the team. That tells you all you need to know on top of his spectacular numbers that exceed everyone else in the NL.
Ohtani has 4 consecutive seasons with a 9 WAR. To put this in perspective Hank Aason only had 2 seasons of 9 WAR. Never had WAR of 6 for one season (Garvey, Valenzuela, Brock). Never a 7 (Campanella, Berra, Killebrew, Molitor, I. Rodriguez). Never an 8 (Smoltz, Larkin, M. Ramirez, Ryan, Stargell, V. Guerrero, Murray, F. Thomas, Thome, M. Cabrerra, Posey, O. Smith). Never a 9 (Dean, Bench, McCovey, Rose, Jeter, B. Robinson, Matthews, Kaline, Ott, Winfield, G. Carter, F. Robinson, Sandberg). Never 2 9s (Jackson, Carew, Schmidt, Beltre, Brett, Clemente, Boggs, Griffey, DiMaggio). Never 3 9s (Seaver, Gibson, Koufax, Carlton, Maddux, Palmer, Aaron, Pujols, Ripken, Banks, Henderson). Never 3 consecutive 9s (Clemens, Speaker, Musial, Yaz, Gehrig, A Rod, Morgan, Trout). Never 4 consecutive 9s (Ruth, Cobb, Mantle).
@@Rick-tr6nc Wow! That is pretty much all the greats on the list, and Ohtani had four consecutive seasons with 9 WAR. That's crazy. Ohtani will continue the above 9 WAR over many years to come.
No objection! Ohtani deserves MVP even as a DH. Just look at his numbers of this season. 50-50! Who else can do it?
I agree, and David Ortiz makes excuses after backlash of his comments, David Ortiz is sour grapes, the guy had only 2 stolen bases a year and Ohtani's numbers like War is higher than anytime in Ortiz career. The DH in the past were only hitters with 4 or 5 stolen bases, Ohtani has 50 HRs and 50 SBs that's an all around player, plus he's a leaderoff hitter with 130 RBIs, and also led the NL in Runs RBIs Extra base hits Total Bases On Base Percentage WAR OPS Slugging HRs and the first player to go 50-50
@@edwin-vv8bw I would say, a sour lemon~ 😅😅
More like 54-59...That's absurd. War Dodgers. War Ohtani.
Unanimous MVP incoming
If before 40-40 day I can say they can argue but after that day he has awoken like Paul in Dune and went far ahead. If anyone thinks there’s a player better than him this season I doubt the person’s sanity.
Ohtani's stats this year destroyed all of David Ortiz's best years. He was jealous and trash talked too soon and now he's embarrassed but he finally admitted that Ohtani deserves MVP Lmao.
Well, I think Ortiz admitted grudgingly because he still feels slighted. Now he has to bow down, given Ohtani's performance.
After Ortiz's trash talk, Ohtani went nuts. He was only expected to reach a WAR of 8 at the end of the season but he ended up with a WAR of 9.2.
Ortiz is a steroid jabroni
Deserving makes it sound like there's competition, this guy is unanimous MVP, no conversation, no debate
MVP deserves Ohtani
Three-time unanimous MVP. Anything less is an insult to baseball.
I know there are some Ohtani haters out there because he was the DH, but you know damn well that he is an ace pitcher also, aside from that, he is also the only only player that you have MLB players saying things like this about him, wanting to watch his highlights, saying he is one of a kind. So yeah I'm a fan like most on here and you don't need to like him for whatever your reasons, but it seems that the professionals who play and have played usually say he is the one.
Ortiz has multiple personality disorder
Lmao 😂so true
Ortiz should have said so few months ago. What a two-face guy he is!
I agree, now Ortiz is apologizing after the backlash of his comments, including making an offensive comment to Shohei last month.
@@edwin-vv8bwfr he called him a "pretty girl" 😂😑 we know he's pretty but girl?! 😂
He should have his HOF membership revoked, as well, because he clearly doped.
UNANIMOUS MVP NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
First You’re talking shit & now you are praising him ! You are two faced ! Jealous Much ? OTHANI = THE GOAT 🐐 GO DODGERS 💙💙⚾️⚾️
You should fight him
Nothing wrong with changing his ways and coming correct and praise the GOAT/unicorn.
Reminds me of Pedro in 2021, so full of praises of Ohtani in the beginning and then somewhere along the way changed his tune and said Vlad Jr. should be MVP. Same color stick together.
I don't care what Ortiz thinks... We know Ohtani earned the N.L. M.V.P.
This was the same loser that was saying Ohtani didn't deserve to win MVP because he is just a DH😂😂😂
Yeah we already seen his true colors
who ortiz or patrick?
bro is jealous af called shohei mlb pretty girl kinda racist sounded but ya people forget it the next day
I lost total respect for Ortiz the moment he called Shohei "la niña linda del MLB" ...
Fr that was a terrible thing to say....
No one is close in the NL. He will win unanimously. In the AL you have Judge, Soto, Witt Jr and Henderson all with elite seasons. But he is the NL MVP no doubt.
Remember this dude said “ the MLB pretty girl “ 😂😂
ya i would have loved if he asked him that on that comment felt kinda racist
@@recommended1782and sexist tbh why some men want to use girl as an insult(?)
Dude really switch up so fast when majority around him didn't back him up 😂
@@recommended1782how is that racist, where is race in this equation? oh my god you people are actually insufferable
I'm not trying to defend him, but the meaning of that was like Shohei is the mom's favorite kid in the house. That's how we Dominicans use it. Was it the proper expression? Not at all. He should watch his vocabulary to avoid situations like this
Ohtani's season is historical. Even if you disregard the arbitrary 50/50 achievement, you add up his total base + SB net of CS + walks, he has 547. That's something only Barry Bonds and Babe Ruth have done. To put in context, Aaron Judge has 535 this season, and in his 62 HR season he had 515. Speed kills, and unfortunately in baseball it is seemingly just one stat while walk impacts all % calculation like SLG%, OPS% etc. One little nugget, Aaron Judge has 22 GIDP this season, Ohtani has 7, that's where speed matters, when you can beat a double play and extend the inning, couple that with stolen base you are back in scoring position, that's 15 outs. His offense production more than outweight not playing defense, which is not a requirement for his position, a position that's required in the game. He isn't hurting his team by not playing defense. He should be unanimous MVP.
You know you stats. I also do the TB + BB + SB stat. Very simple but it gives you an idea who is most productive.
@@ST-lb9tt exactly, I am surprised not many experts emphasize that. Walk is the single thing that Aaron Judge does much better than Ohtani, while Ohtani beats him in SB by far. However, SB is one stat while BB impacts OBS, SLG, OPS, making it seem like Judge dominated Ohtani in production, when he basically just walks more. IMO, SB should be factored into total base, and that will give credit to those speedy guys in SLG and OPS.
GOATANI just hit a 3-run HR...go Dodgers
He changed his mind knowing he's gonna be clown for being salty af if he doesn't LOL
If the number of 2 way players increases someday, will there be a Shohei Ohtani Award like Edgar Martinez?
Lol. He changed up reap quick.
David Ortiz is sour grapes, the guy had only 3 stolen bases a year and Ohtani's numbers like War is higher than anytime in Ortiz career. The DH in the past were only hitters with 4 or 5 stolen bases, Ohtani has 50 HRs and 50 SBs that's an all around player, plus he's a leaderoff hitter with 130 RBIs, and also led the NL in Runs RBIs Extra base hits Total Bases On Base Percentage WAR OPS Slugging HRs and the first player to go 50-50
Now his brother, Stephen Smith should retract his stupid statements about Shohei
What did he say?
People that complain that he doesn’t play outfield! He steal base that force mistake and sometimes they score from it. It happens multiple times, scoring while stealing. That MVP level
The dude is still bitter that he did not get MVP, and one can’t blame him for feeling that way, but he should understand that there were position players like A-Rod who had great seasons when he had his best seasons, whereas this year no one including Lindor came close to Shohei in the National League. There is no equivalent of A-Rod in the NL this year, as Judge and Witt are in the American League.
What a clown he is. This guy revealed he isn't humble. He lost my respect.
You never know, he could be trash talking about Ohtani again in a month.
Let’s admit it he took an L take when he said Ohtani should not be mvp as a Dh. But good to see him back I really like his personality in tv and I totally forgive him on behalf of all Ohtani fans. 😊 we cool papi
This guy is a two face. He was all happy for him in the WBC when Shohei was being interviewed. Then he was sore because Shohei was getting more attention than he ever was as a DH and said if he didn't get MVP, Shohei shouldn't as well. Now he changes his mind? hmmmm. People thought of him as a one dimensional player because he was just that. Shohei is a 3 dimensional player, at least 2 this season due to T.J. Power and Speed. Next season he'll add the pitching 3rd dimension into the mix.
He was on period then. I don't like him anymore.
True, except with the pitching will come tired legs and fewer swiped bags.
Ortiz couldn't run, couldn't field, couldn't throw, and he wasn't an especially heads-up player. But, man, he sure could hit.
@@boxingandbulldogs6341he had 20 SB last year while pitching which is still impressive
@@boxingandbulldogs6341 Ohtani always finds a way ... haven't you learn anything the past 6yrs? He hasn't regressed in any one area since he began playing in MLB from 2018
Ortiz never put up ohtani numbers. Never.
WAR wise not even close. No DH ever led the league in WAR cmiiw, Ohtani leads the NL with a WAR of 9.2...Unanimous MVP
I guess bad pr will make you change your perspective
Sounds like he got an extra sponsor bonus to change the tune of his opinion about the MVP race. It does sound like a script when everyone is saying Ohtani is MVP, but the numbers do not lie.
Oh now you think hes deserving 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Next time, he'll be trash talking about Ohtani like an unstable girl.
I lost respect for Ortiz when he called Ohtani “princess of the mlb”. For one, it’s unprofessional since he’s an “analyst” and imho his comment enabled hate in the game.
David O has a great sense of humor! BRAVO! EVEN, after calling Ohtani a pretty girl!
Ortiz biting his tongue. Looks has nothin to do with it. Even if Ohtani looked like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, he would still be a landslide MVP.
😂😂 hunchback
OK, but who doesn’t think he’s MVP
Ask the people in New York. They probably still think Lindor should be the MVP.. crazy..
@@Tickie82 I think with Shohei's numbers this year, even the east coast voters have to give it to Ohtani, or else they'll be seen as 'homers' who will waste their vote out of spite.
Crazy Mets fans... Lindor is a great player but Ohtani is amazing this year and it's not even close
This guy changes opinions faster than Trump changes political parties
Maaaaannnn... all these hatin' on Ortiz. Stop it. Get some help! All I've got is respect to Ortiz for making adjustments and giving props where they due! That's COMPETENCE in my book!
yo you still think you know who is da pretty girl of MLB?
Big Papi sos grande !!!
Ya don't say
Is anyone else even close?
Like 2 more balls manage to find their way to the outfield grass and he's the first triple crown winner since 1937
I forget that guys name but Im certain he didn't go 50/50
Shohei is so good that once he's gone the mvp award is gonna lose it's validity
Who else is ever gonna match his talent?
And he could come back next year and win the Cy Young!
He's like a super hero that was created by a child with an overactive imagination
Those who say Ohtani can't win MVP because he's only a DH and doesn't play defense are idiots. Why can Pitcher win MVP but DH can't? While Pitcher also only plays defense and does not play attack? This is unfair for the DH position and Ohtani will be the one to open a new era for other DHs in MLB. Perhaps those who hate Ohtani have not heard the famous saying in football (soccer) that attack is the best defense.
Excellent point!
Come on, give the guy some slack (at least this once) . Yeah, Ortiz messed up big time, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's two-faced to say good things about Ohtani again. He's probably just too simple minded and too honest to his feelings, I guess. One can admire a person but at the same time feel jealous of him, you know. People just don't say that out loud.
Dominicans seem to have this strong comradely about each other (or to Carribeans in general), and when he was interviewed in the Dominican Republic, people around him probably soaped him up real good and made Big Pappi a bit too bold, just like a jolly, bragging drunkard. It's not smart, but it happens. As long as he makes amends, which he seems to be doing, isn't it best to let things go?
BTW, Pedro Martinez did the same thing a few years back, and Vlad jr. also kinda did the same, too, but in all honesty, they both seem to genuinely like Shohei. Maybe it's a thing with Dominicans and their personal pride getting mashed up with their national pride when it comes to the MVP debate, who knows?
Besides, Big Pappi was never known for his brightness or his intelligence in speech and character. I've been a great fan of Shohei since he was in high school, but I kinda still like David Ortiz for being so carelessly faulty. Of course, the next time around would be another story, though.
Wait a sec...Did he just say if Ohtani doesn't win MVP, then they have something against Asians? Um...He's already got 2...and they're unanimous. I don't think race is much of an issue in this case whatsoever. I think it's that a DH has never won the award and they're worried about setting a precedent without players playing in the field. BUT this year a DH should...Ohtani was by far the best overall player in MLB.
Ohtani will set a precedent: put up his type of numbers and it won’t matter if it’s from a DH.
The DH race. 😅😂🤣
Ortiz is successful DH.. NO Doubt.. Now it ohtani turn to set the mark...tbh he set it too high... 😂
Ortiz was hitting low blows and attempts to high five ohtani
Dan had to throw that stolen base lol 😮good for him
That was painful.
50/50 + 18wins, WAR goes ?
We could be talking about a number as high as 17/18.
But it doesn't really matter because he'll never get enough playing time doing "both" to put up those kinds of numbers (on either side of the ball) -- especially playing under Roberts in L.A.
Are we really gonna bring race into this. if it was measured on stats, who is better?
deep down i think david ortiz loves shohei. i think it's more just stirring the pot, cause a bit of controversy, little contrarian doesn't want everyone to just blindly worship him even though we all worship ohtani
Uh, duh. I am a little more ticked as to why a guy who juiced is still being given airtime to comment about legitimate player performance. How he got into the HOF but Pete rose being banned from the ballot is league hypocrisy at its finest. Ok, rose didn't come clean for a long time, but neither did Ortiz and others. They were caught and even then, a number of them still deny it (bonds, sosa, and Clemens, are on the front of that line). Ok, betting was against the rules and PEDs were not. But don't tell me the players weren't doing it to gain an advantage through questionable means. if they didn't, why have so many denied taking them? Not everyone was doing it because they knew it smacked of cheating. They soiled the game as much, if not more so, than Rose ever had. Because of it, so many current records are suspect. And whenever any current or future player makes a run at power stat records, there will be questions raised as to whether they are doing it legitimately.
Ortiz is the greatest clutch hitter I ever saw.
👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
David been very vocal and showed his love for Ohtani but that one tweet. Bout the pretty girl shit was just out of emotions . I’m sure he love Ohtani like the rest of us .
Ohtani also has many fans in Korea. We have a dark tragic history of experiencing slavery, forced labor, Unit 731 by Japanese colonialists in WW2, which the Japanese denies and has never apologized to this day. But I am glad we can be united in sports.
윤 대통령은 국무회의에서 일본이 이미 수십 차례 과거사 문제에 대해서 반성과 사과를 했다는 말도 했습니다. 앞서 대통령실도 일본이 지금까지 50차례 넘게 사과했다고 밝힌.
일왕과 총리 자격의 사과나 유감 표명, 논문, 보고서, 옛날 신문 등 종합해서 모두 정리해보니까 최소 53차례로 집계됐습니다.
당신은 역사적으로 일본이 50차례 넘게 사과 했다는 사실은 무시하고 무조건 일본이 사과해야된다고 하는데 참..
그리고 박정희때 사과와 함께 천문학적인 차관 받고 그거로 성장했으면 역사는 잊지말되 서로 교류하고 발전해나가야된다는 얘기 꺼내면 좌파들은 항상 "돈으로 다 되냐" 이런 말 하는데 그럴거면 왜 지금까지도 부 배상금 요구하냐?
Gee David, way to go out on a limb. LMAO
Never likes Ortiz. Dudes peanut butter jealous
I ageed with you David papi Ortiz king magic goatani should be mvp in 2024😮❤🎉
Triple crown winner but Arraez 🐓
In all fairness, Ortiz deserved an MVP or two. He was robbed of an MVP in 2006 when he hit 54 HR, 137 RBIs. They gave it to Justin Morneau who hit 321/34/130. vs 286/54/137. Ortiz should've won the MVP in 2006.
He wasn't even runner up that season and came in third behind Morneau and Jeter. It says a lot of what writers thought about DH hitters back then.
Yeah, that was a pretty big whiff. Did all three of those players' teams make the playoffs that year? Sometimes that seems to play an inordinately large part (I'd just use it as a tiebreaker, at most).
Pretty girl Ohtani most certainly does
big pappi is a hofamer among hofamers. that 2013 post season with the red sox can't be topped for pure entertainment. to d.ortiz: you da MAN!
オルティーズも納得してしまうほどの大谷の活躍
私は日本人です。大谷翔平に対するOrtizのPretty Girlという言葉は、悪いのでしょうか？
教えてください。
Asians gonna play the race card if Ohtani doesn't win because 99% knows he should win. That just means 1% are racist and in that 1%, most of the voters for mvp are racist if Ohtani does not win. lol😂
When have Asians ever played the race card for you to even post this ?
この活躍で大谷をMVPに選出しなければMLBはクソッタレだ！
Ohtani is the goat of all goats.
Oh really dave thanks for the insights 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Papi is just saying that to avoid backlash but we all know he’s a dodger hater and he doesn’t think Otani deserves to be MVP!
Ortiz is a liar and I don’t think is truthful. Liar!!
Ohtani's only downfall is that his skin color is incorrect 😂