OLD MAN EMU BP-51 Suspension Review 40,000km
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2018
- After 40,000 km's of the toughest terrain in the country here is everything I have learned about the OME BP-51 remote reservoir shock absorbers. This episode was filmed in 2017 but major developments forced me to delay the upload until PART 2 was ready to be filmed. Major changes have happened and those details will be included in Part 2
OME BP-51 high performance bypass shock absorber's are the result of an extensive research, development and testing program. I've been testing them in the field and share with you what I like and don't like about the flagship suspension product from ARB.
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Gavin. Thanks for the review. I understand now what you are saying about double event. Bp51's amazing suspensions
You just helped me make up my mind. Thanks for the review
From USA...Top notch videos sir. Happy that UA-cam brought me here. I run a Land Cruiser 80 here in the states.
Thanks mate, i'm glad you're enjoying the videos :D
Great review Gav, sounds like you've got the adjustments sussed. It's awesome that this technology is filtering into the consumer 4x4 market giving us more options! Lots of us have been enjoying these kinds of suspension adjustability features on our mountain bikes for years, its great that our four wheel drives can benefit as well. Hopefully it might mean longer shock life as well!
Great review, love how you put it, they are fixing what breaks, no questions asked. If you want to see how well a company thinks of their product, see how well the warranty it. I think this says it all. Really hope I can get to Australia to go 4x4ing. Until then it's the Pacific NorthWest of America.
OME mate, i do love my system put in by ARB. It took out all the shakes and back pain when i hit the rough stuff. Great review and to the point. Cheers Moose.
I've just subscribed, I like very well the manner that you present things and that's what I'm looking for, thanks again. A big Hi from Algeria
Thanks for the review Gavin. I have BP51’s on my Hilux and love it. Make’s a massive difference. ARB Coopers Plains adjusted mine when i got my new winch fitted so they’re very conscious of how the extra weight affects the suspension. See you at Finke.
Nice one mate, See you at Finke ! :D
Hi Gavin, I've had them for a couple of years now on my FJ and have put them through their paces in all types of terrain (rock/mud/snow/dunes/sand tracks and horribly corrugated dirt roads) they have really impressed me. Ive been in all situations in regards to being unloaded to being at the max gvm for the FJ with fully loaded roof rack etc.
My front ones were replaced as they said they were leaking and they had a terrible squeak. The back one's guards haven't fallen off but do cause a squeak when dust gets between the guards and the shock.
Love adjusting them to get the right setting for the condition.
The main issue with these are installers not adjusting the front coils properly according to the weight in front. This means people with stock vehicles have a rough ride due to the shock topping out all the time.
We experienced this briefly, too much preload with too loose of rebound, so the shock was drooping out too fast while the front end was unloaded and going over a large bump.
Are you still liking the BP-51's on the FJ?
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Great layman's terms explanation. Than you. I now understand rebound etc 👍
Thank you
Great video, great information...
Thanks mate for the review I have ordered for my y62
great review mate thanks
Great info ... thanks mate
would love to see follow up reviews in the future
Just used my new BP51's on a 2018 VX 200 in the D'entrecasteaux National Park and around Yeagerup. Had a Tough Dog adjustable kit installed before that which had a certain harshness to it. The BP's make the previous kit look pretty average I couldn't believe the performance off-road. Obstacles that I was used to bracing for were dealt with by the new suspension unbelievably well. Smooth and comfortable. I prefer soft/ fast compression and firmer rebound to minimise that bounce/secondary event
Thanks mate👍🏻
great, content as always mate. top review
Thanks for the review. Best one so far (along with the comments) as its helping me evaluate suspension options for my Tacoma.
Did you go with the Bp-51? And why/why not? Would love to hear you feed back!
That squeak sounded like what I had on my Taco and it was the hood rubber bushings. I just put tape down the squeak went away. I do get a clunk in mine and I think that is common.
I have the BP51s on my Ranger best thing i have ever done should of done that from the start (had probs with the ARB front lower bushes flogging out) and as you say small adjustments at a time its amazing the difference the adjustments make.
Cheers
MrStihlman441 - wondering if ya “Stihl” happy with ya BP-51s? Considering a set for my Ranger. Cheers
what's your setting for front and rear?
Good on ya Gav - Good Bloke!
Just ordered these for my Jeep JL!
Thanks
Hi Gavin great review I noticed you wearing your arb hat I have two of them at a cost of $13,000 each. A lot of money spent on modification
Thanks for this honnest review! Probably our next suspension set. For the moment we are running profender adjustable shocks and happy with it but we wanted to try BP51 for next time. Greetings from Switzerland!
I had leaking seals, replaced three shocks in warranty. Regarding corrugated tracks; spent a month in Iceland which is all corrugated and figured that the rebound damp needs to be at zero, otherwise the suspensions compresses as it doesn't rebound as quickly as it compresses. So after a hundred meters or so the ride is really rough. This is when the truck is loaded up and the springs are not pushing back much.
That said they ride really well on road, very comfortable, great for crawling, sand, high speed etc. Were fantastic driving through the sahara on rough ground and never fade. Have done 8 hours at 80km/h through rough Moroccan back country, shocks were cool.
I am or may not go for Kings when these wear out, not sure they are any better and cost the same.
G'day Gavin. A great review on the BP 51's thankyou. I am looking for part 2. Can't find on You Tube at present.
Thank you, I got promoted at work so I've been super busy for the past year and will be still for another 6 months. After that I'd like to get back into film making
@@GavinGillett thank you. Looking forward to your next trip video and the follow up on the BP 51's. Can you advise whether your concerns have been rectified by ARB? Currently in the process of arranging the fitting of the BP's and GVM upgrade and keen to hear of any issues to raise with ARB . Hope you're enjoying the new work role!!
@@philipbeasley8079 no new issues happily
That progressive rate coil-over on front suspension at 04:12 has collapsed as the lower coils are in contact with each other....
Down to Earth reveiw.
Awesome review Gavin, thanks.
I assume by lack of second vid, ARB have never sorted out you issues?
Thinking of 51s for my Ranger but not keen on dropping $5k to buy issues.
G'day mate. Quite the opposite sadly. Second warranty claim honored just a few weeks ago. I have been trying to edit these videos as they are already filmed but I'm so very busy at work right now. Moving to Brisbane for work too in a few weeks :)
Do you adjust when going from off road trails onto tarmac?
I'm getting a lift soon, but don't want to constantly adjust the shocks every time I change surface.
Thanks for the review.
I adjust my suspension between on road and off road settings but once off road i dont normally touch them again unless im tweaking them a little. It only takes a min regardless :D
Hi Gavin love your videos mate! Kaon sell a rear suspension guard thats stainless steel and it for the prado 150 they might fit the 200 aswell its worth checking out
PRADO TECHMAN awesome mate. Thanks I will check it out :)
Gav, glad you did this review as I am thinking of buying them for my Troll, what springs do you use?
Darren Moore G'day mate, I use king springs in the rear and the front are Coilover :)
If I were spending that type of money KINGS would be the first choice. Nothing beats king shocks.
agreee !! had these on my cruiser were crap didn't like ride or sway , sod and got kings , talked to a guy at king they even revaalved for my weight and a flutter in it best ride I have had !
Hi, Was just wondering if you've heard back from ARB regarding the 2 concerns you had with the BP-51? Great Review. Cheers!
Hi Zuhair, I held off answering until today because today ARB inspected the suspension and found the two rear shocks to not be performing as intended. One is leaking fluid aand the other needed 2 mechanics to adjust the compression and rebound. Yikes! I will keep you posted on any developments but right now it looks like i'm in for warranty replacement number two :(
But your rig is setup with too much weight for that shock to really show what it can do with an overland setup - that shock is best suited for a prerunner setup on light trucks/suv's unloaded running fast which is why we use that tech of Coilover external bypass shocks desert racing. Take off your winch, front bumper, roof rack and thats what 1500-2000lbs? Overlanders are great for Overlanding and being heavy, prerunners are great for going fast and being light weight. Just a note for anyone just starting out in building a truck. Love your rig, glad you like the product and great video!
Hi there, in the North West where I live the majority of tracks are as you describe. Plus, these shocks are rated to 3.8t and are designed for Aussie conditions. Check out the Canning Stock Route series. I forget which episode but I demonstrate the effectiveness of this suspension setup over heavy washboards :D Thanks for watching :D
"that shock" isn't a universal shock, its specifically built for the application, and accommodating heavier loads. Internal bypass isn't for race shocks only. Winch Bumper and Roofrack is maybe 400lbs, maybe. You're very far off in your assumptions.
To bad the they don't make them for the FX4. Guess I stick with my Rancho rs9000xl's
Excellent review, exactly what I was looking for because there is so little info out there on these bad boys! Would you say the BP-51s would be an appropriate solution for a 2020 Toyota Tacoma with a very heavy constant load (slide-in camper, sliders, skids, bumper, winch, etc), along side heavy duty leaf springs? Also, do you know if ARB has revised this product as of yet to address the issues you mentioned?
G'day mate, thanks for reaching out. The 2020 Tocama might be to heavy, my 200s is right on the limit I believe, but yes ARB have fixed the issue I highlighted. I've not had any more issues in that area and i'm not aware of anyone else so i think it might be resolved.
I have the BP-51s since February. I live in Phoenix AZ and try to go off road is often as i can. Im running a 2016 Tacoma TRD off road. I have also noticed some clunking noises that i can't figure out where its coming from. Having watched your video i am wondering if it is the bushings on the BP-51s. Is it easy to inspect visually to see if that is the case? are they easy to replace? Thanks for the videos!
Steve
Hi Steve, when I had the bushes start to go on my cruiser they made a distinct squeak that sounded like metal on metal. If your getting clunking noises its absolutely possible the bush has failed but visually that should be easy to see. Is it possible you could be hitting the bump stops ? or, perhaps the upper control arm is hitting the larger springs? Let me know what you find :D
Awesome!, but you got the rebound mixed up!, firmer rebound damping is more resistance so slower, and vise versa. For corrugations you defiantly want softest compression and rebound settings.
Hi there, thank you for your comment but unfortunately I cant agree with you on this occasion :D But only because in this video i'm describing the rebound and compression in terms of speed and not strength of the response.
To each their own sir, no worries. 😉
I've been having issues with my BP-51's. They are just about to have their second warranty replacement sadly. I'm thinking I might try Kings and see if they are better.
Kings? defiantly can't go wrong with KINGs! if you have a look at my channel I defiantly put them through the test and absolutely love them. The good thing about kings is they are very very simple and easy to work with. You can easily revevalve the shock and change the entire damping curve and also spring rates off course.
I would also highly recommend that you order them with custom length (16 inch coilover upfront) as opposed to the standard 14 inch. 14 inch standard king coilover does not max out the 200 series cruisers travel. 16 inch coilover will give you much more wheel travel and also have a much better ride height control. 14 inches sag very easily, since they are not long enough. I learned all this the hard way.
I also suggest you get 700lb springs as opposed to the standard 600 because of your bull bar. Remember if you dont like the ride quality its all in the valving. Good luck.
Hi Gavin, I am looking at around 2 inch lift if possible and something in place of the stock shock absorbers, now coming up to two years later since you posted this video would you recommend for or against these BP51’s?
Hi Blarg, yep, still love the BP51's but if I was going to have one critique its on my end and the weight of my cruiser when fully loaded. When loaded im pushing the suspension to its limit.
Great review thank you. How do you find these compare to the normal OME set up? I asked two of my local dealers about the BP51 and both said they’re only suitable for very heavy loads and would be a very stiff suspension for my use which is mostly unladen city driving. I definitely want the best all rounder for tar roads as well as dirt track.
The suspension really earns its money in corrugations but its not ideal for all situations or vehicles. If you use your vehicle rarely for 4wding then a standard suspension upgrade would work just fine.
Load is held by the springs, and the front BP51 springs are adjustable for different loads. Ive had 2 sets, the first i got the installers to unwind the spring compression collar as my FJ was stock. Im on my second set and now have a bumper so have left how it come from the factory. In town, you could have it nice and soft, and on the trails or with load you can harden it up. The rear depends on what springs you get which is the same selection as the regular OME setup.
Hi Gavin, can you give me an update with the BP51's please? Replacing suspension on my heavy 2014 200 and starting to rip my hair out lol. Unfortunately King is too pricey for me but need something that will float over corrugations and don't think an unadjustable shock is for me. Hoping the BP's were going to be perfect.. Cheers, and thanks for the great, honest video's:) PS. Did you do a part 2 of this vid? Can't seem to find it..
These BP51s are just as much as kings, approximately $3k for the set of 4. If you want adjustability, the $2-3k range is normal; Fox 2.5 DSC, BP51s, Icon CDCV. Dobinsons would be a more affordable adjustable option in a 2in shock, closer to $2k for the set of 4
How is the suspension holding up? Couldn’t find the follow up video. Very curious about longevity with the harsh terrain you’ve traveled. Thanks
Hi Dejai, I had a few more complications because the warranty models were of the same bad batch. However, the new batch is trouble free and i've had 2 years with no issues now.
I have the 2013 FJ cruiser trail teams edition. I'm interested in adding 2 to 3 inch lift and 33 Inch tires. I will be adding heavy bumpers both front and back. And outfitting it for long range overland travels. I'm liking what I see in your video but I would also like any recommendations for my rig. Thank you for your time.
Quite a few options there depending on your budget, a BP51 kit for your vehicle is going to run approximately $3k. There's plenty of setups that will help with your setup and give you a good ride, you can get into 2.5" shocks for around $2k, which is recommended when running a lot of gear and you want improved control.
Love the BP51's? Had issues with suspension? Let me know what you think of the OME BP51's and what issues you have had with your suspension setup.
Thanks Gavin. You recon it’s worth the upgrade to the standard OME from the basic Toyota Land Cruiser suspension?
The bushes are a know warranty item - take it back to ARB for replacement. @Robert-Aaron Richmond
Just curious here but when the bottom bush gets flogged out, what is it replaced with? Hopefully not the SAME bush again? On Prado's etc where this is a common issue, people are using the "'SuperPro Bushes" which seem to be much better....
Also, I'm interested to know where during your research for suspension, whether u came across FOX Shocks at all?
Rob Mac yeah same bush again. They're replaceable parts so its all good
SummitX.net fair enough, but I would have thought they should last longer than they have though....
Rob Mac yeah absolutely, I felt the same. ARB made a good point when I asked them about that. They said the average 4wder will get 5 years out of the bushes. I got 1 year but I did about 20,000kms of 4wding in that time
Gavin, thanks for a very transparent and honest review. I’m in the market for some shocks and I’m seriously considering the BP-51 for a 2017 Lexus GX 460. At that price range-ish would you recommend I go with these if I’m driving thru similar terrain? What would you buy if you were me?
Thanks m8
G'day mate, sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. I just replaced the BP51s on my cruiser. I think she was just a little to heavy for the suspension. I hope you are doing well and enjoying the Lexus, great cars :D
@@GavinGillett So you wouldn't recommend them for a 200 series anymore? what have you replaced them with mate?
@@waynezivanic2726 G'day mate, I wouldn't recommend them for a heavy 200s. A stock 200s would give you incredible performance. I'd suggest if you're over 3.5t fully loaded go with Kings. I have Kings on mine now and I'm 3.76t fully loaded and she sits perfect and rides like a trophy truck now.
@@GavinGillett Thanks mate. Did you get the full GVM upgrade kit with your BP-51 suspension? The kit comes with a 4t approval so id be concerned if it dosent handle well over 3.5t. Im in the market for a full GVM upgrade so just trying to understand the finer details.
@@waynezivanic2726 the 4t wasn't available when I got my suspension, Mine is the 3.8t GVM version. However, i don't believe there is anything fundamentally different between the standard shock and the 3.8t shock and I assume that's also the case for the 4t shock.
Gav thanks.. what is your settings for the bp1 ? Can you do that for me! Thanks
My settings wont help you. The total weight of the car, the distrobution of weight north and south. The speed ou drive on track all play a part to the comfort of the ride.
However, what i can tell you is that the majority of terrain I encounter is harsh corrugations. WA is a very flat state so I dont find myself rock hopping that often. My vehicle was run with suspension configured to move fast, compress fast (soft) and rebound fast (firm) - onroad in my daily commute it was a little stiff and not as comfortable as it could be. But when fully loaded she was perfect.
When driving on a beach or a mountain trail I have a different configuration.
I always setup my suspension for the hard work of offroading, not the easy commute. Primarily because its not that easy and convenient to change it all the time with the ammount of 4wding I do.
Its very hard to give you settings because i change mine all the time. My vehicle weights 3.8t and that is mostly to the rear (60/40) My settings for a beach or high speed trail are drasticly different to the settings i use on corrugations or a slow rocky track.
My suggestions is, start with the defualt settings and drive many types of terrain. Aim to keep your vehicle level and the wheels attatched to the ground at all times and then adjust for traction then comfort.
Hope that helps :D
I just changed 4 new bp51 shock last week under warranty. All 4 leaks.
My Part two video is a similar story i'm afraid :(
@@GavinGillett When will Part 2 be uploaded? Looking at a possible BP-51 purchase
@@llamataboottaboot1080 sure will, I've had a second warranty issue so thats the reason for the delay. I'm hoping to have part 2 out this year
@@GavinGillett I'm on the edge of my seat!
How does the bp51 compare to dobinsons mmr or the big names (king, radflo, fox) similar level kits.
Fox and king are better IMHO, the others I haven't personally tried but people I know would put the BP51s below every brand on your list
I disagree with Gavin, these BP51s are superior to anything Dobinsons offers, they're thicker, they have more fluid, they have equivalent adjustment, and they have internal bypass. Additionally, none of the race brands provide rebound adjustment, nor internal bypass with an off the shelf product. You can of course get king or fox with internal bypass, but that's a very expensive custom order that exceeds the BP51 price point.
Hi Gavin
I also live in the Pilbara (Hedland) and have the OME BP51's on the front of my Hilux , below are the issues I have come across with them:
They make a thudding sound over small bumps if the compression setting is set to less than half on the indicator.
The grooves on the shock to make the adjustments are too shallow, making it easy to strip them out with the flimsy C spanner tool.
And finally they are marketed as a fully adjustable shock, which is some part true, but ARB fail to mention that if you need to adjust the spring height (for reasons if you add a winch or dual batteries) you need to remove the entire strut and require specialised tooling to adjust and wind the lock ring on the spring up or down.
For the price of them, I expected a little bit more and a smoother ride then what they deliver (no matter what setting they are at.)
Great videos by the way, looking forward to your next one.
Dave Downes thats a great point on the shallow grooves. Now you meantion it I have noticed the same and it can sometimes take a few tries before I find the sweet spot with grip.
Hi Gavin. I have just put BP51s on my 79. I put the camper module on a few weekends ago and going over speed humps was awful I dialed in some extra rebound and compression and it is better but still not perfect. I am glad I have the facility to tweak it to get it right.
English Nomad In Oz Hi nomad when you adjusted the suspension and it was better but not perfect did you run out od adjustment or have some more to go? :)
I put air bags on it today so I will nee to have another fiddle, I had some range left but I think I can back it off now with the airbags.
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on these, but my concern with the BP-51 is the rebuild kits.. To make this investment last the life of my truck. I cannot find any info on getting replacement seals and rebuild kits, like I can find for the FOX and Kings... Did it come with any info? Is there a recommend maintenance schedule for them? thx
Strato Scape the only thing you need is the address of your local ARB. If you have an issue they just warranty replace whatever is needed.
Gavin, Thanks for the reply.. that's only in the first 3 years, and unfortunately I'm in the US and my closest dealer is on the other side of the country... hehe Don't intent to run them as hard as you do, but over the long term if By-Pass are better and cheaper to rebuild vs replace (ie nitros) It helps make the initial investment much easier to justify to me at least..
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Hi, mate. Do you still recommend the BP-51s today or is there another kit you’d prefer now?
Hey Gavin, I’m thinking about purchasing this suspension in a few weeks, looking at your video now which is 2 years old. Do you still have this suspension installed? How many KM have you done with it now and would you still recommend it?
I’m thinking either this or FOX Shock 2.0. Thanks brother, I got a Ford Wildtrak 👍
G'day mate, I needed a second warranty after this video because the replacement was from a similar batch grouping but since then I've had no issues at all. It looks to me like they solved the problems and now days even the guards don't fall off any more.
So yep. I'm happy and can recommend them :)
Gavin Gillett great time know
hi Kent. I've also got a Wildtrak. Did you get the bp 51? How are they on/off road compared to stock? Cheers
Can you also to a review comparison with ironman 4x4
G'day mate, I'm not that kind of UA-camr. The gear I use stays on the vehicle long term. I do documentaries and guides or reviews on what I use. For product reviews I'd suggest Ronny Dahl or Andrew St Pier White
how the bp51 holding up? got any leaking issue or any else major need to worry about.
G'day mate, they didnt hold up well unfortunately. I ended up replacing them with Kings which turned out to be far superior. Then got an offer I couldnt refuse for my 200s. Waiting for my new vehicle to come off the boat now
500km into work wtf what do you do?
I’ve got BP-51 on my Hilux I haven’t played with the settings yet, any suggestions on where to start adjusting them?
If it felt a little stiff in the front end which would I play with?
Did I say 500kms? I could have sworn I said 5km's but I could be mistaken hahah
SummitX.net maybe you did haha. Did you see my edited last post?
I would start at the current settings and make my way over to my favorite local track. Then make small adjustments to find what works for you at the weight you're carrying. It's a vehicle and weight specific thing in combination with your personal preference. Because of that nobody can truly tell you what settings you should be using for your vehicle.
If it was stiff in the front end you could speed up your compression and slow down your rebound by 1 notch and see how that feels for you
@@4WDTeam I always recommend testing different combinations. It's not easy to give a recommendation as the performance of any shock is so dependent on weight
да круто но подскажите нижние шток с шс подшипником разваливается СКРЕПИТ ,за 20-30 тыс пробега по городу и иногда на выходных по грязи и лесу шс начинает скрипеть где супер технология как решать эту проблему или только в пустыне ездить или в Австралии? По чему дилеры не могут шс продать или заменить ?
Доброго времени суток, дружище, я не уверен, что Google Translate правильно понял сообщение. Я не совсем понял вопрос через переводчика.
Does "it takes bugger-all time to adjust these", mean it takes a long time or a short time?
It doesnt take long but you do need to climb under the vehicle. Other brands have the adjustment a little more accessible.
@@GavinGillett
Yeah I decided to go with the Falcon 3.3 SP2's. I finally pulled the trigger on the Falcons because the ease of adjusting them are just too good to pass up. Although I'm sure that the BP-51's ride way better.
Did ARB ever get back to you?
No, sadly they didnt. I had to go through the local store and ARB never replied
Hi gavin. Just got my bp-51 on my hilux. How do i set it up for everyday use? on the road mostly. not too hard/firm and not too much body roll. Thanks
Hi Glenn, Rear 5/3 Front 4/4 try that as a starting point and see how it feels
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Paul Johns Hi Paul :)
How well does this suspension handle on the road?
pretty much as well as you want it to, it can be super loose and plush, or it can very tight like a sports car, depending on the settings.
@@ShockSurplus Thank you
Any leaking issues
Yeah there is, have a read through the comments. I outline a few dramas over time in there
Where's part 2?
HI Jay, I got promoted, moved to Brisbane and have taken a year off from filming to concentrate on my career. At a high level, the suspension is still on the cruiser today if that helps :)
@@GavinGillett that helps! Did they update the shock covers that kept coming off? I'm thinking of using this kit on my Tundra
@@jaycasman1754 Yes they did, it took a while but I havent needed to fix that for more than a year now.
how this compare to ironman foam cell pro?
I have not used ironman foam cell shocks but I would also point out that comparing them to a remote reservoir shock is a apple vs oranges debate. Even a cheap remote reservoir shock will out perform foam cells over difficult terrain.
@@GavinGillett thanks mate btw im currently running ironman shock on my hilux and ranger and ome nitrogas on my prado 95 planning to get a land cruiser 200 in the future would love to have the bp51 on the lc. FROM SARAWAK
@@morientesmenggu8681 perfect, dont make the same mistake I did though. My 200s is a little heavy. 3.7 fully loaded. Try and keep yours under 3.5t fully loaded. She can be a handfull in the hard stuff when you are pushing 4t.
@@morientesmenggu8681 oh, and the BPs are rated to 3.8t but you dont want to be so close to mac weight when you are 1000kms from home :) just in case something goes wrong
@@GavinGillett ok thanks mate for the tip🍻
Just go kings tbh.
despite popular belief, kings aren't the best for every application
@@ShockSurplus but for the price point might as well go big or go home.
my rebound is shit ,, because after a bump my LC200 bounces
ok guys they all leak, kings, icons, bp51s fox and so on... it's just the reality you might get lucky and it'll leak later than sooner but i've seen shocks blown at 5-10K
Exactly this. Fox / king / icon / sway away dont tell you that they require servicing by 50k miles at the latest, often sooner. Hidden cost that people aren't prepared for.
Dont you have to rebuild these every 50,000 ks ,?
No, these aren't like the race brands
U hello hello hello when is the next video coming out
Paul Johns every weekend bro :) another coming this Sunday
SummitX.net great
The plastic guards BWhahahahaha. My god those things are useless.
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Amen to that lol
Just buy Bilstein, Koni, or Fox ........Fit and forget
If only life was so easy :D
Cut a bicycle tube and clamp it on. Problem solved
That reminds me of a story ... a guy would take enough spare parts to replace everything on his vehicle including a spare axle on his 4x4 trips. Sure enough every trip he needed to replace his axel as well as a number of other parts. One day the guy left on another 4x4 trip but this time he forgot to take his spare axle and many of his spare parts. This trip he didnt break his axle or anything else.
- Your bike tube suggestion is a great idea but I wouldnt have one on the vehicle. Despite where I travel I'm very lean on parts and prefer to fix what I have onboard with some very basic tools and supplies to save on weight. I will certinly consider a bike tube though, lots of uses for that kind of rubber in a mishap. :D
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Hi :)