My 4matic c300 made it threw 3 feet of snow today, it was nuts, I wasnt even able to open my doors and push even if I wanted to. This is with open diffs front and rear, trully amazing system, I had no clearance yet suv's weren't even able to go threw. I can only imagine how good a 4matic GLK would do since itsjust a lifted c class with more clearance, quatro or 4matic is the way to go, hard to say which is better, with good tires they perform equally, not xdrive bmw's on the other hand, forget it, I saw 3 bimmers stuck that day and they had so much issues taking off.
best car ive ever owned was a 1998 MB 320E Wagon. It did everything well. Weighing nearly 2 tons it could still corner like a sports car, accelerate like an animal, and you could practically load another car into the back. No car ever made me feel as safe as that vehicle. Surprisingly it wasn't even terrible on gas. Man I miss that car. Gave it up for cosmetic reasons, still drove awesome till I traded it in.
I have a Mercedes C250 4matic V6 and it's the best thing ever. I can't even get the car to slide in the winter and I live in central Canada where we have -40C temperatures every winter and our roads are absolute garbage. I'm not even going to bother registering my Jeep Wrangler this winter. Mercedes is great. I'd buy a Subaru if they all didn't have such obtuse and generally unappealing looking exterior. The 2014 WRX concept looks decent, it may be the first car Subaru has ever made that doesn't look like complete shit.
i'm an E320 4matic owner and i can attest to the same thing. i dont live quite as far north as Canada but im not far away in the Midwest United States. The car handles like a boss in the winter and not to be cliche but it really inspires confidence driving in rough weather conditions with the 4matic awd system. I can also say it has saved my life in a number of driving incidents. Its no secret that Mercedes Benz has pioneered safety in the auto industry from seat belts to air bags and more. And i do believe that Mercedes Benz vehicles have a level of quality and ingenuity that other manufacturers in the same industry do not.
For all you guy that are saying Subaru has the best AWD system is not true. testing a car on rollers doesnt prove anything. Hondas SH-AWD has been proven in the real world were is matters from the track to an icy road, the system is practically unstoppable and it far more advance than Subaru and the others and to this day no one has matched it, its been out since 2004. And many car reviewers have said it the "best on the market"
A great system, and also cheaper to make because they don't have individual locks. That said, you end up with less appliable power than a real AWD system that has proper mechnical or electronically controlled diffs. No rally car is going to be using this system, but it will definitely keep you safe in bad weather.
sounds like everybody forgot about Acura's SH-AWD, which is in fact, the most advanced and most sophisticated AWD system out of every AWD system in the world
Yes im having a massive issue with the car at the moment trying to torque up wheels for no reason breaking on wheels when not needed out of the blue shuttering while driving its scary and a shity system
Subaru is working on the idea of boxer engine combined with awd for approximately 40 years! There are many critical differences on the way the two systems operate. Not to mention the value for money factor + reliability and maintenance requirements! If you take all these under consideration the two systems are not even close realy! I have driven a subaru forester and I have personal experience on how well it operates under all conditions without any effort.
It doesnt matter if you have subaru or audi, AWD system or Mercedes 4Matic AWD System it depends more on the ability of the drivers driving skill and his knowledge on his or her own car and they should know how it handles on all wheather conditions, I mean AWD is nice to have but if theres a shitty driver driving an AWD or not your crashing it one way or another. I have a 2011 Honda Accord and this last winter strom we got here in NYC with black ice covering most of the streets i drove the minimum 30 to 35 MPH to 45 without sliding on an FWD with Traction Control without crashing.
I respectfully disagree. I live in Canada with very severe weathers causing ice and snow covered roads for much of the winter months. I have owned a lot of cars with AWD but my first 2013 Mercedes ML350 4matic and it handles snow and ice like no other vehicle. My drive way is sheer ice and the ML350 climbs it without slipping, spinning or loss of traction that no other vehicle can do.
glk would be good but c class still makes it threw, I went threw 3 feet of snow, wasnt even able to open my doors, and that's with my esp/traction control off, it just powered threw while suv's werent even able to move.
Having owned a 2015 Subaru Forester and a 2012 ML350 I can tell you that ML350 AWD is on par with the Subaru if not less. With the additional torque from the Diesel engine and the airmatic suspension + wider tyres the ML350 is a much more comfortable and confidence inspiring drive. In bad weather conditions I would definitely pick the ML350 over my Subaru Forester - but that’s my humble opinion🙂
@ethosflux True.Its not as good as Audi's Quattro system,because this system also lacks a sort of safety.Its controlled by wheel sensors,but Audi has pure mechanical and reliable Torsen central differencial.Also its a lot more complex than Audi's system too.
How bad is that system ESP for the city drive(always touching the breaks in every turn its too much ), thanks to the manufacturers that puts the buton ESP OFF -Thanks. ......but the truth is that ESP is something that make driving out of the city safer ( makes the difference between live or death), because of that is highly recommended, and for that Thanks the manufacturers again !
A strange thing happened to my GLK 4matic. I was making a right turn at low speed up a gentle slope on snow covered road. The tail was losing traction, so with slight acceleration hoping to pull it out of the skid; instead the SUV lost control and skid more. Can anyone tell me why?
You caused the wheels to slip even more by accelerating. On a turn, weight is distributed to one side more than the other. If you are turning left and your back left tire is slipping, increasing speed will cause more weight to be shifted to the right side, causing less weight on the left side, decreasing traction. This causes a slipping tire on ice and makes correction difficult because that wheel will have a sudden increase in force coming out of the turn, causing the car to spin out.
Mercedes has over 100,000 patents that everyone copies. First led headlights 2006, all led 2014 numerous productions speed records (268mph in 1938) list goes on plus inventing the first modern car & motorcycle since 1886!
Does anyone know about traction control devices (chains/cables) on AWD cars? I've always understood that with FWD, 4WD and AWD, traction devices go on the front, but someone who seems to know what he's talking about told me (with an explanation I can include, if anyone's interested) that if you use traction devices on AWD, you must use them on all 4 wheels, never just 2. I've scoured the Interwebs for information and it doesn't seem to be addressed anywhere.
Yeahhh the thing with AWD is that whatever you do to one wheel, you have to do to all of them in most cases, because if you don't you'll burn out the diff, transfer case from different wheels spinning at different speeds constantly. It's the reason why you can't do a staggered wheel setup on AWD cars.
That electronically controlled limited slip/traction control is bullshit. If they just put limited slip differentials in the car, they wouldn't have to worry about the $20,000 electronic system that does nothing but auto-apply the bakes. Ridiculous. This is what Germany is doing. Putting this stupid shit in cars, costing you a lot more money for no god damn reason. This isn't more efficient. It uses power to do this, and wears brakes faster, whereas a limited slip diff is all mechanical, uses zero power, and has no affect on the brakes whatsoever. Don't buy German. It's a rip off.
the fck are you talking about lol, its a little module that is on the abs pump, nothing crazy, its like 500$ if it breaks and which it doesn't, if you have an issue, you open it up and its just a solder joint that cracks on the circuit board, people replace them without knowing its a simple electrical fix, the shops that charge 400$ to rebuild them must be laughing.
using breaks is the worst way to do it... Mitsubishi is using mechanical torque vectoring to distribute power instead of breaking - they do that for 20 years and its a way better solution
I disagree with this video, this system does not give the best possible traction. Subaru AWD is the best AWD, it is the most direct to the wheels and goes through the least amount of parts of any AWD system in the powertrain. This creates a direct to road (or snow, or dirt, or any condition) AWD that is far superior and will get you much further than 4-Matic, Quattro, 4-Motion, XI Drive, Realtime, Fulltime, or anyother AWD. Go SUBARU!!!
@@jongeddes09 Oh I'm sure it is, I'm just not a fan of exactly how they go about it. Subaru manages comparable traction at like half the price and with less brake modulation.
My 4matic c300 made it threw 3 feet of snow today, it was nuts, I wasnt even able to open my doors and push even if I wanted to. This is with open diffs front and rear, trully amazing system, I had no clearance yet suv's weren't even able to go threw. I can only imagine how good a 4matic GLK would do since itsjust a lifted c class with more clearance, quatro or 4matic is the way to go, hard to say which is better, with good tires they perform equally, not xdrive bmw's on the other hand, forget it, I saw 3 bimmers stuck that day and they had so much issues taking off.
best car ive ever owned was a 1998 MB 320E Wagon. It did everything well. Weighing nearly 2 tons it could still corner like a sports car, accelerate like an animal, and you could practically load another car into the back. No car ever made me feel as safe as that vehicle. Surprisingly it wasn't even terrible on gas. Man I miss that car. Gave it up for cosmetic reasons, still drove awesome till I traded it in.
Just bought a 2008 ML320 with 4matic and came here to find out exactly what it was. Drives rock solid as if the vehicle is on rails.
I have a Mercedes C250 4matic V6 and it's the best thing ever. I can't even get the car to slide in the winter and I live in central Canada where we have -40C temperatures every winter and our roads are absolute garbage. I'm not even going to bother registering my Jeep Wrangler this winter. Mercedes is great. I'd buy a Subaru if they all didn't have such obtuse and generally unappealing looking exterior. The 2014 WRX concept looks decent, it may be the first car Subaru has ever made that doesn't look like complete shit.
i'm an E320 4matic owner and i can attest to the same thing. i dont live quite as far north as Canada but im not far away in the Midwest United States. The car handles like a boss in the winter and not to be cliche but it really inspires confidence driving in rough weather conditions with the 4matic awd system. I can also say it has saved my life in a number of driving incidents. Its no secret that Mercedes Benz has pioneered safety in the auto industry from seat belts to air bags and more. And i do believe that Mercedes Benz vehicles have a level of quality and ingenuity that other manufacturers in the same industry do not.
ur mom looks like shit
For all you guy that are saying Subaru has the best AWD system is not true. testing a car on rollers doesnt prove anything. Hondas SH-AWD has been proven in the real world were is matters from the track to an icy road, the system is practically unstoppable and it far more advance than Subaru and the others and to this day no one has matched it, its been out since 2004. And many car reviewers have said it the "best on the market"
A great system, and also cheaper to make because they don't have individual locks. That said, you end up with less appliable power than a real AWD system that has proper mechnical or electronically controlled diffs. No rally car is going to be using this system, but it will definitely keep you safe in bad weather.
sounds like everybody forgot about Acura's SH-AWD, which is in fact, the most advanced and most sophisticated AWD system out of every AWD system in the world
I just bought a s430 I’ve never driven a car that felt so smooth.
from what i've heard from TOP GEAR, Porche and Audi has the best 4x4 traction system.
In the simple words: Let's computer do all that shit
My c280 is better in the snow , than my jeep . It is old now , and well , I'm keeping it another year .
Is splitting the torque between front and rear wheel set will make speed difference between them?
Yes im having a massive issue with the car at the moment trying to torque up wheels for no reason breaking on wheels when not needed out of the blue shuttering while driving its scary and a shity system
Lmao. Not a shitty system. You got a unmaintained car. And a older one at that. These systems are 2nd place behind Audi. Above anything else.
Subaru is working on the idea of boxer engine combined with awd for approximately 40 years! There are many critical differences on the way the two systems operate. Not to mention the value for money factor + reliability and maintenance requirements! If you take all these under consideration the two systems are not even close realy! I have driven a subaru forester and I have personal experience on how well it operates under all conditions without any effort.
It doesnt matter if you have subaru or audi, AWD system or Mercedes 4Matic AWD System it depends more on the ability of the drivers driving skill and his knowledge on his or her own car and they should know how it handles on all wheather conditions, I mean AWD is nice to have but if theres a shitty driver driving an AWD or not your crashing it one way or another. I have a 2011 Honda Accord and this last winter strom we got here in NYC with black ice covering most of the streets i drove the minimum 30 to 35 MPH to 45 without sliding on an FWD with Traction Control without crashing.
I respectfully disagree. I live in Canada with very severe weathers causing ice and snow covered roads for much of the winter months. I have owned a lot of cars with AWD but my first 2013 Mercedes ML350 4matic and it handles snow and ice like no other vehicle. My drive way is sheer ice and the ML350 climbs it without slipping, spinning or loss of traction that no other vehicle can do.
Just bought a 2008 ML320 and I've never known a car drive so well and positive before.
Don't know your beef, only adds about $1500 to a $60000 sedan and is very nice in the snow and rain....
I love my 2004 c240 4matic. The problem is that it has less ground clearance than I'd like it to have.
+rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr330 You need to get a GLK or ML, GL, etc Mercedes SUV. Clearance in those is excellent.
+Jason Debly i think there's no more of GLK.
it's replaced by the GLA.
+ADEEB AL-HASHMIE You are correct! My mistake.
glk would be good but c class still makes it threw, I went threw 3 feet of snow, wasnt even able to open my doors, and that's with my esp/traction control off, it just powered threw while suv's werent even able to move.
Subaru AWD is beyond comparison. The rest work only in theory and brochures!
Having owned a 2015 Subaru Forester and a 2012 ML350 I can tell you that ML350 AWD is on par with the Subaru if not less. With the additional torque from the Diesel engine and the airmatic suspension + wider tyres the ML350 is a much more comfortable and confidence inspiring drive. In bad weather conditions I would definitely pick the ML350 over my Subaru Forester - but that’s my humble opinion🙂
waw, that's all is good working? now i get it for different AWD vs 4WD :D
@ethosflux True.Its not as good as Audi's Quattro system,because this system also lacks a sort of safety.Its controlled by wheel sensors,but Audi has pure mechanical and reliable Torsen central differencial.Also its a lot more complex than Audi's system too.
How bad is that system ESP for the city drive(always touching the breaks in every turn its too much ), thanks to the manufacturers that puts the buton ESP OFF -Thanks. ......but the truth is that ESP is something that make driving out of the city safer ( makes the difference between live or death), because of that is highly recommended, and for that Thanks the manufacturers again !
@rotaryjesus in europe most of taxis are Mercedes where I live 10 years ago ALL taxis were Mercedes and i saw a lot of them with more tan 500000Km
A strange thing happened to my GLK 4matic. I was making a right turn at low speed up a gentle slope on snow covered road. The tail was losing traction, so with slight acceleration hoping to pull it out of the skid; instead the SUV lost control and skid more. Can anyone tell me why?
You caused the wheels to slip even more by accelerating. On a turn, weight is distributed to one side more than the other. If you are turning left and your back left tire is slipping, increasing speed will cause more weight to be shifted to the right side, causing less weight on the left side, decreasing traction. This causes a slipping tire on ice and makes correction difficult because that wheel will have a sudden increase in force coming out of the turn, causing the car to spin out.
Any pedal is usually a bad idea in a skid
@bxlxix69 OMG! dont compare others cars to Merc.
Audi and Subaru have the best AWD on the market, everyone else is just adding gimmicks to their cars.
+Johnathon Tucker ha ha i love Subaru to death, but i think that was before Subaru automotive was born
The first 4 wheel drive Porsche was in 1900!
If that was the case, wouldn’t all companies be copying Subaru and Audi?
David Craig that’s where your wrong, kiddo. Mercedes was pioneering all-wheel drive before Audi or Subaru even existed
Mercedes has over 100,000 patents that everyone copies. First led headlights 2006, all led 2014 numerous productions speed records (268mph in 1938) list goes on plus inventing the first modern car & motorcycle since 1886!
Does anyone know about traction control devices (chains/cables) on AWD cars? I've always understood that with FWD, 4WD and AWD, traction devices go on the front, but someone who seems to know what he's talking about told me (with an explanation I can include, if anyone's interested) that if you use traction devices on AWD, you must use them on all 4 wheels, never just 2. I've scoured the Interwebs for information and it doesn't seem to be addressed anywhere.
Yeahhh the thing with AWD is that whatever you do to one wheel, you have to do to all of them in most cases, because if you don't you'll burn out the diff, transfer case from different wheels spinning at different speeds constantly. It's the reason why you can't do a staggered wheel setup on AWD cars.
Aurait il possibilité de l'avoir en français ? j'ai un travail de fin d’étude là dessus et je ne trouve que des vidéos en anglais :(
Audi has the best AWD, quattro doesn't have to be activated, and the time act of reaction is 0 it doesn´t need the ESP intervention
Depends on which Audi we are speaking 🙂
Is two different systems 4wd.The cars have olong engine its better for the gearbox and more strongest
why there is difference in lenght between left and right diff. that will make steering funny Strange, for the many.
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@rotaryjesus yes i saw one e-classe evo with 999.999+ km
Audi have the best AWD systems.
That electronically controlled limited slip/traction control is bullshit. If they just put limited slip differentials in the car, they wouldn't have to worry about the $20,000 electronic system that does nothing but auto-apply the bakes. Ridiculous. This is what Germany is doing. Putting this stupid shit in cars, costing you a lot more money for no god damn reason. This isn't more efficient. It uses power to do this, and wears brakes faster, whereas a limited slip diff is all mechanical, uses zero power, and has no affect on the brakes whatsoever. Don't buy German. It's a rip off.
u mad bro?
Audi uses a blend of the two and it is better. but it is a shame that you dont get the AWD system like in an EVO or STI for the money you spend.
the fck are you talking about lol, its a little module that is on the abs pump, nothing crazy, its like 500$ if it breaks and which it doesn't, if you have an issue, you open it up and its just a solder joint that cracks on the circuit board, people replace them without knowing its a simple electrical fix, the shops that charge 400$ to rebuild them must be laughing.
using breaks is the worst way to do it... Mitsubishi is using mechanical torque vectoring to distribute power instead of breaking - they do that for 20 years and its a way better solution
yes i have, more than one
no 911 Carrera 4s Have better AWD+AW Steering google it
yeah in the age of 90...
nope Subaru have best AWD Transmission you can Also google for Subaru AWD
@rotaryjesus my dad had one w123 (240D) with 750000miles(1200000Km)
Audi own the best AWD system (quattro permanent) and then Subaru.
jeep....
I disagree with this video, this system does not give the best possible traction. Subaru AWD is the best AWD, it is the most direct to the wheels and goes through the least amount of parts of any AWD system in the powertrain. This creates a direct to road (or snow, or dirt, or any condition) AWD that is far superior and will get you much further than 4-Matic, Quattro, 4-Motion, XI Drive, Realtime, Fulltime, or anyother AWD. Go SUBARU!!!
A silly AWD system...
It's effective, though. My W204 C Class is incredibly sure footed, even in icy conditions.
@@jongeddes09 Oh I'm sure it is, I'm just not a fan of exactly how they go about it. Subaru manages comparable traction at like half the price and with less brake modulation.
@@MrJeChou half the price and more engine replacements
@@tpeoples3516 More? Most people I know get at least 120,000 out of thier subies...