Cleaning old potassium metal

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  • @MrLundScience
    @MrLundScience 7 років тому +4977

    I want to thank you VERY MUCH for this video! I have a very old ingot of Potassium (I'm a chem teacher) that we've probably had since the 60's. It's crusted with much oxidation, but I *never even thought* it could have potassium superoxide on it. Pushing that chemical into pure potassium...you're right. That's such a hazard. And I've been cutting into that metal to portion out pieces for ten years now. Never again! Luckily, I was always doing this in the back room, and not in front of students. At any rate, not only have you warned us about the danger, you've also, in one excellent video, equipped us with the necessary procedure to correct the problem. You sir, are awesome. Thank you again and again!!!

    • @JuryDutySummons
      @JuryDutySummons 7 років тому +71

      Gonna clean it now?

    • @MrLundScience
      @MrLundScience 7 років тому +320

      I have plans to. We don't have toluene lying around, though, as it's been identified as a carcinogen. Doesn't mean we can't order it, but we just don't have it normally stocked. I'll have to get that first. Till then, the Potassium we have is off limits.

    • @ximecreature
      @ximecreature 7 років тому +171

      NileRed is undoubtedly one of the best channels of youtube in its own niche and have always shown the full procedure with security warnings. I'm not a chemist, so performing these experiments would be close to impossible to me, research alone would take ages (and by now i'd been tagged by Security Services for all these chemicals :D ), but watching it here provides me with the amazement i've always enjoyed in chemistry. Truly an excellent communicator for science. So I'm quite happy to learn that chem teachers also do enjoy it; it's a plus both for credit and quality.

    • @SaraWolffs
      @SaraWolffs 6 років тому +75

      Please be sure to read the warnings by research chemists in other comments: isopropyl alcohol is dangerous to use for this, and it will react with the metal as well, somewhat like water does. The gel is identified as potassium isopropoxide, a strong base, and needs to be neutralized by removing the toluene, then slowly adding cold water (what happened to "acid to water"? But I suppose organic chemists know best), producing KOH and isopropanol. The KOH can then be neutralized with vinegar.
      The alternative offered, likely safer and wasting less potassium, is to use dioxane under argon as a solvent, dissolving the oxides while leaving the metal untouched. You can then heat the dioxane to melt the potassium (still under argon), gathering it one blob, then letting it cool completely. Once it has cooled, you can finally shut off the argon and pick out the solid potassium blob (tweezers are suggested), and transfer it to clean oil for storage.

    • @gambrinus330116
      @gambrinus330116 6 років тому +14

      the teacher has become a student xD

  • @randomentity6553
    @randomentity6553 5 років тому +2437

    I'm no chemist, but I do work in industry, and the one thing no one has mentioned - Nitrile gloves are not chemically safe for use with toluene. (notice the gloves getting softer and looser) You all will also observe that the red compound is caused by the toluene coated metal in close contact with the nitrile gloves 14:42

    • @davyberson90
      @davyberson90 4 роки тому +154

      And he never reads this

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  4 роки тому +1988

      @@davyberson90 That's where you'd be wrong!

    • @わるわる-r9r
      @わるわる-r9r 4 роки тому +35

      @@NileRed finally?

    • @mangoleeallan
      @mangoleeallan 4 роки тому +330

      @@NileRed my guy is still active reading comments on a video from 2016, you gotta love that!

    • @randomentity6553
      @randomentity6553 4 роки тому +20

      @Vox Deus i would like @Nilered opinion, because i am no chemist, but that color was clearly a chemical reaction.

  • @denniscordova8454
    @denniscordova8454 8 років тому +4867

    why don't you just scrub it with soap and water

    • @twitchingdan
      @twitchingdan 8 років тому +617

      Please tell me this is a joke.

    • @denniscordova8454
      @denniscordova8454 8 років тому +1339

      it is a joke

    • @insertnamehere4335
      @insertnamehere4335 7 років тому +178

      +WeX T laughing ass my off?

    • @yiuholamyiu360
      @yiuholamyiu360 7 років тому +138

      Dennis Cordova I know it is supposed to be a joke but because potassium + water = BOOM.

    • @sebastianalmanza4756
      @sebastianalmanza4756 7 років тому +136

      Dennis Cordova Yeah, and disinfect it with chlorine while you're at it

  • @AmbassadorJJ
    @AmbassadorJJ 8 років тому +645

    Organic Chemist here. I'm not sure if potassium's oxides will react with alcohols, but I can tell you that alcohols react with alkali metals to form the corrAesponding alkoxide salt and hydrogen gas, much as water reacts to form the corresponding alkali hydroxide and hydrogen gas. (i.e CH3CH2OH (ethanol) + Potassium ==> 0.5mol Hydrogen gas + 1mol CH3CH2O- K+ ) These alkoxides are extremely reactive. Be careful.
    (How do I know this? I've personally reacted sodium and ethanol before in order to form sodium ethoxide, which is an extremely strong base, for an experiment in my academic research)
    That stuff left behind in your toluene? Potassium isopropoxide. It's an extremely strong base. The solid gradually turns dark over time because of oxidation. To neutralize it, add cold water to it slowly after removing the toluene. This produces isopropanol and potassium hydroxide. The hydroxide can be neutralized with boric acid solution or vinegar.
    Again, please be careful. Also, it would be very nice if you add a warning about this to your videos that you clean alkali metals in; they will all react with isopropanol in this manner, and the resulting waste should be neutralized as I described above to prevent accidental harm.

    • @AmbassadorJJ
      @AmbassadorJJ 8 років тому +31

      WRONG EXPLAINATION, READ THE EDIT:That sounds about right. Assuming you neutralized with vinegar, alkoxides react with things like vinegar to form esters, which generally smell fruity.
      Edit: correction many years later... Don't know what I was thinking. Vinegar reacting with the alkoxide will produce the alcohol plus the corresponding salt of the carboxylic acid (e.g., potassium acetate). If there is excess acidity in solution after all this (e.g., a sufficient excess of acetic acid), you may have a slight fruity smell develop after a small amount of the acid is able to react with the alcohol to form the ester, but that would be a VERY slow reaction at best. Thanks to Leo Curious for pointing out this inconsistency!

    • @leocurious9919
      @leocurious9919 6 років тому +9

      Alkoxied form esters with organic acids? How is that supposed to work? Reaction mechanism please, because I highly doubt it. It will form the acids salt + the alcohol, eg. CH3-CH2-O-Na + CH3-COOH -> CH3-CH2-OH + CH3-COONa

    • @nolanwilson3021
      @nolanwilson3021 5 років тому +16

      @@AmbassadorJJ alkoxides wont react at the carbonyl carbon with carboxylic acids, it will just deprotonate the acid forming carboxylate and alcohol...

    • @AmbassadorJJ
      @AmbassadorJJ 5 років тому +16

      @@nolanwilson3021 I stand corrected. Thank you, sir.

    • @nolanwilson3021
      @nolanwilson3021 5 років тому +6

      no problem Mr Ambassador Dude@@AmbassadorJJ

  • @S_Carol
    @S_Carol 3 роки тому +360

    And *this* was how my teacher burned down the classroom.
    Thanks for explaining, I've always wondered what went wrong back then.

    • @fedorkochemasov4533
      @fedorkochemasov4533 3 роки тому +9

      You mean he cut into old potassium that had a superoxide on it?

    • @S_Carol
      @S_Carol 3 роки тому +36

      @@fedorkochemasov4533... and ignited whatever flammable oil it was preserved in, yes.
      (she was trying to cut off a little piece while avoiding taking the large lump out of the jar, I think)

    • @rune.theocracy
      @rune.theocracy 3 роки тому +20

      Imagine having an actually cool chemistry class.
      That's cool though, except for the part that the classroom burnt down.

    • @ConstantChaos1
      @ConstantChaos1 Рік тому +2

      @@rune.theocracy idk it all sounds cool to me unless someone got hurt, what disgruntled student didn't secretly hope at least once that the school had burned down so they got time off lol

  • @lloydevans2900
    @lloydevans2900 8 років тому +298

    Combining potassium metal with toluene and wet isopropanol is ridiculously dangerous if you don't have an inert gas blanket over the top. It has to be nitrogen or argon to prevent fires. Carbon dioxide does work, but can react to make potassium carbonate which contaminates your potassium. Isopropanol does react with the potassium metal itself (to make potassium isopropoxide and hydrogen), so you risk destroying some of your expensive potassium this way.
    There is a much better way to make shiny potassium blobs, even from lots of really dirty small pieces. The solvent of choice for this is dioxane, since it can dissolve the potassium oxides without reacting with the potassium metal underneath. Transfer all the dirty potassium to a large beaker about half full of dioxane - you don't need to wash all the oil off first, so if you have a load of small bits, just strain it out with a sieve. Then heat it up until the potassium starts to melt, and it should coalesce.
    Ideally you should stir it with a magnetic stirrer. This allows you to cover the top of the beaker with a lid and purge the headspace with inert gas while you are heating it, otherwise the risk of fire is rather extreme. The molten potassium floats to the top, while the oxides dissolve and any other insoluble crap sinks to the bottom. Once you have a nice shiny blob, let it cool down while still purging with inert gas. Once solidified, pick it out with tweezers and put it in a clean jar with some fresh oil.

    • @trinitrotoluene8665
      @trinitrotoluene8665 8 років тому +41

      You are the only sensible person in this commentsection...

    • @plazmatter
      @plazmatter 7 років тому +8

      Lloyd Evans NO NOT NITROGEN THE K WILL CORRODE

    • @strade601
      @strade601 6 років тому +2

      Isn't dioxane gonna act as a chelatant and solubilize potassium metal too ?

    • @leocurious9919
      @leocurious9919 6 років тому

      @ Alcyne: Where would the electrons go?

    • @leocurious9919
      @leocurious9919 6 років тому +6

      Its really somewhat dangerous. He is also adding way too much alcohole. Just add a few dops and let it sit over night. Use liquid paraffin or some other high boiling hydrocarbon as the solvent and there is no crazy fire hazard.

  • @tempstation810
    @tempstation810 8 років тому +740

    That giant ball of potassium is making me nervous.

    • @alexanderharrison7421
      @alexanderharrison7421 5 років тому +30

      @@martynaskerdokas8438 it would be a shame if someone came in with a match

    • @tek4
      @tek4 5 років тому +4

      NaK
      Is more fluid

    • @yingxiawei821
      @yingxiawei821 4 роки тому +17

      If someone came in with a bucket of water and some mineral oil...
      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
      Then you try to put it out with water...
      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
      Then the lab burns down

    • @lewisho8114
      @lewisho8114 4 роки тому

      Shouldn’t

    • @jalexoneschanel1356
      @jalexoneschanel1356 4 роки тому +2

      Good thing dog here have a low surface area to volume ratio so the smallest amount of potassium possible is exposed

  • @spiderjuice9874
    @spiderjuice9874 8 років тому +96

    I agree with AmbassadorJJ about caution using isopropanol. Back in the day, I was always advised to only use t-butanol to clean or destroy potassium as it's even less reactive than isopropanol.
    Another thought: when cutting potassium chunks, never use a metal knife - it can undergo redox with the superoxide and metallic potassium, causing an explosion. I would advise the same for poking a molten blob of potassium too: try using a glass rod instead.

    • @pietrotettamanti7239
      @pietrotettamanti7239 7 років тому +3

      Spider Juice redox reaction with what? Where's the oxidant?

    • @pietrotettamanti7239
      @pietrotettamanti7239 4 роки тому +2

      @
      And how would that change from a metal spatula to a glass rod?

    • @BuurmanHans
      @BuurmanHans 2 роки тому +25

      @@pietrotettamanti7239 this man just waited 3 years to add another question.

    • @craigpater6278
      @craigpater6278 2 роки тому +1

      @@pietrotettamanti7239 I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure that the superoxide is highly reactive and a powerful oxidising agent

    • @craigpater6278
      @craigpater6278 Рік тому

      @Pietro Tettamanti I'm pretty sure that the potassium superoxide is both highly reactive and a powerful oxidizing agent so the superoxide is where the oxidant comes from in that redox reaction if a metal knife is used to cut potassium chunks

  • @simplyvince1744
    @simplyvince1744 5 років тому +879

    "Okay in this video I'm going to be cleaning some potassium..."
    My brain: oh... K

    • @lewisho8114
      @lewisho8114 4 роки тому +10

      Omg good pun

    • @DeenBoi
      @DeenBoi 4 роки тому +61

      I was gonna say the same joke
      but *Na*

    • @voultyre9272
      @voultyre9272 4 роки тому +34

      @@DeenBoi Real *Li* dude?

    • @DeenBoi
      @DeenBoi 4 роки тому +21

      *P Og Ge* r *S*

    • @JakHart
      @JakHart 4 роки тому +5

      Beautiful.

  • @auulauul9328
    @auulauul9328 5 років тому +120

    3:03 "After a few months of neglect it was coated in yellow." An incredible quote.

    • @nibblrrr7124
      @nibblrrr7124 3 роки тому +12

      yellow chem bad

    • @pepealasquid6005
      @pepealasquid6005 3 роки тому +2

      Just like my liver disease! wow, im like potassium!

    • @gormster
      @gormster 2 роки тому +1

      That’s what the Coldplay song is actually about

    • @ViShNu_K3
      @ViShNu_K3 Рік тому

      Aeast it's not White

    • @UraniumYumYum
      @UraniumYumYum Рік тому

      Mellow yellow

  • @piranha031091
    @piranha031091 8 років тому +323

    7:06 : that blue color is probably due to thin film interference, similarly to what happens when you anodize other metals such as titanium, hafnium, niobium (that one is the prettiest!), or even when steel is tempered.
    13:34 : someone in my lab should have listened to that...
    He had some potassium in hexane, the whole thing caught fire (we're still not sure why). He freaked out, went to get a fire extinguisher, and knocked the beaker over by firing CO2 on it.
    He then managed to empty the whole extinguisher without completely extinguishing the hexane. Fortunately, somebody else brought a dry chemical extinguisher, and completely put out the fire.
    Had he simply grabbed anything to simply cover the beaker, the whole thing would have been over in an instant...

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +109

      +piranha031091 Yup, it's crazy how easy it is to put out but using something like fire extinguisher can make the problem so much worse.

    • @zanpekosak2383
      @zanpekosak2383 7 років тому +11

      Methoxy Light is an electromagnetic wave. So different thicnesses of oxides refract the light differently. It just happens to be that its the right thikness to make it blue.

    • @TheRolemodel1337
      @TheRolemodel1337 6 років тому +3

      thought of the color being due to a thin oxide film aswell but why wouldnt the color continiously change while the oxide film thickens?

    • @firefish111
      @firefish111 5 років тому +1

      That's hilarious, yet plain stupidity.
      (I really mean ignorance)

    • @wirebrushproductions1001
      @wirebrushproductions1001 4 роки тому +3

      At a guess, a uniform thin film forms almost instantly, and this will be about 200 nm thick, giving a blue color. Once the oxide layer forms, the oxidation rate will slow way down as the existing oxide will tend to protect the underlying potassium. Not only that, while the potassium is in the toluene, there is only a trace amount of water available to react with, so the initial oxide formation will tend to deplete the toluene of water impurities. The way to test this, of course, would be to let the beaker sit for a while and see if the apparent color changes. It would also be interesting to cover the top of the beaker and purge the air space with something like nitrogen, to see if that prevents atmospheric water vapor from diffusing into the toluene and thence to the potassium.

  • @MinMinn192
    @MinMinn192 8 років тому +965

    I want to play with that potassium jellyfish thing.

    • @eddievanhorn5497
      @eddievanhorn5497 6 років тому +31

      Just not with your finger!

    • @m0w0ss
      @m0w0ss 5 років тому +19

      @@eddievanhorn5497 or maybe you want it with your finger,......

    • @SaxandRelax
      @SaxandRelax 5 років тому +60

      “are you going to eat that?”

    • @HashiNuke
      @HashiNuke 4 роки тому +11

      @@m0w0ss
      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @detectiveelectro2372
      @detectiveelectro2372 4 роки тому +36

      No...don eat the potassium.
      It could explode inside your stomach because there has water and hydrochloric acid in your body.

  • @RaExpIn
    @RaExpIn 8 років тому +63

    I recommend using shellsol D70 for the storing and washing. The potassium doesn't float in it and when adding a drop of isopropanol to the hot mixture the drops coalesce together quite well.

  • @naughsam4459
    @naughsam4459 4 роки тому +184

    "Don't be crazy and shoot water over it and burn your house down" is the warning I wish was put in every science book. xDDD

    • @Yora21
      @Yora21 3 роки тому +2

      I believe the first safety warning in a textbook comes from a Chinese recipe for gunpowder, and it explicitly mentions people burning their house down.

  • @Feetkiller97
    @Feetkiller97 8 років тому +618

    yo nile! red is potassium ozonide... like the superoxide but with an addditional oxygen

    • @Feetkiller97
      @Feetkiller97 8 років тому +22

      +Kye W eyyyyyyyyyy

    • @Jarrod0067
      @Jarrod0067 6 років тому +127

      "What you're seeing now is my normal state"
      *adds oxygen*
      "This is a superoxide. And this..."
      *adds another oxygen*
      "This is what is known as a superoxide that has ascended past a superoxide, or, you could just call this a superoxide 2"
      AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!!!
      AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @sealfoam6841
      @sealfoam6841 6 років тому +4

      Jarrod0067 ascended

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 6 років тому +12

      @@Jarrod0067 megaoxide

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 6 років тому +14

      @Ratko Mladic peroxides and superoxides are molecules where oxygen atoms are bonded together directly. Since this had an extra oxygen, people are joking about it being "more super" than a superoxide.

  • @MrPaulCraft
    @MrPaulCraft Місяць тому +1

    Old video of old potassium cleaning. Just what I was looking for.

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias4890 3 роки тому +17

    I found that apart from its medical uses and water cleaning, Potassium Permanganate and glycol make a good fire starter. Doesn't take much either. Stored properly it is handy in your survival kit.

  • @misad6308
    @misad6308 2 роки тому +1

    I kinda love how it looks like the metal is bleeding with the red on it.

  • @zedbags
    @zedbags 3 роки тому +8

    *Kris, Get The Banana.
    *Potassium.

  • @wypizgacz
    @wypizgacz 2 роки тому +1

    Blue color of potassium is from metallic water witch disolve electrons. You can find ths on yt, just write metalic water, and this is amazing that you find another way to make this.

  • @AlteraLin
    @AlteraLin 8 років тому +196

    These videos are strangely entertaining.

    • @snowdaysrule
      @snowdaysrule 7 років тому +4

      Alterius Zhang I think it has to do with how straight forward and thorough he is. Like I watch these videos feeling like "man I wish my lab technique was this organized and neat, but NAHH too much work, I'll just watch Nile red instead" lol

    • @Mrjmaxted0291
      @Mrjmaxted0291 5 років тому +4

      It's chemistry education done right.

    • @xcccx5
      @xcccx5 4 роки тому

      nothing strange about it🤷🏾‍♂️ good content

    • @midas8877
      @midas8877 3 роки тому

      Human like learn

  • @derkateramabend
    @derkateramabend 7 років тому +45

    The blue colour of pure potassium in toluene is actually solvated electrons, caused by the low first ionisation energy of the element. A similar thing occurs when pieces of sodium and potassium are dropped into liquid ammonia.

    • @leocurious9919
      @leocurious9919 6 років тому +11

      No, thats not it. Its just a colloidal suspension.
      It would be impossible to have water or alcohols and solvated electrons at the same time. But even in pure toluene there are not going to be visible solvated electrons.
      Oh and toluene is not inert in the potassion/hydroxide mixture... see eg. DOI 10.1021/jo01012a067

  • @citroenboter
    @citroenboter 4 роки тому +17

    That's some forbidden jello right there.

  • @jakekimds
    @jakekimds 8 років тому +163

    Running water works best for these things. Just like silverware.

    • @HilbertXVI
      @HilbertXVI 7 років тому +9

      Jake Kim ಠ_ಠ

    • @calebbrooks1037
      @calebbrooks1037 6 років тому +29

      I also found water works well for cleaning metallic sodium

    • @Russianbro777
      @Russianbro777 6 років тому +9

      Water cleans active metals wonderfully😀

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 6 років тому +31

      All you have to do is add some water, and you instantly clean off everything that was surrounding it.

    • @KrazyKyle-ij9vb
      @KrazyKyle-ij9vb 5 років тому +1

      @@calebbrooks1037 it works well to clean an unknown substance

  • @Alex-co7cq
    @Alex-co7cq 4 роки тому +77

    Me: *looks at potassium*
    Potassium: *explodes*

    • @sarahkatherine8458
      @sarahkatherine8458 4 роки тому +5

      That moment when you realize that even potassium hates you...

    • @jules2446
      @jules2446 3 роки тому

      i mean basically

  • @greensheen8759
    @greensheen8759 3 роки тому +3

    "undesirable" is a massive understatement when it comes to potassium fires

  • @mmm_mmm4935
    @mmm_mmm4935 4 роки тому +15

    "Thats where you'd be wrong. It would burst into flames."
    I laughed

  • @brokenglassboy860
    @brokenglassboy860 3 роки тому +5

    Your content is so good because it doesn’t have garbage loud stock music playing

  • @Leetgrain
    @Leetgrain 3 роки тому +7

    Kris get the metal

  • @anees5156
    @anees5156 4 роки тому +1

    Colour is due to unpaired electron present in super oxide, it appears different colour as it absorb different energy and gets excited and de exited.

  • @maximeduchalet4662
    @maximeduchalet4662 3 роки тому +7

    Kris Get The Banana

  • @scrappydoo7887
    @scrappydoo7887 2 роки тому +1

    *a very undesirable potassium fire*
    Good ol'Nile with some epic scientific understatement lol

  • @HackztarcrkZ
    @HackztarcrkZ 8 років тому +27

    Hello Nile! I just wanted to let you know I totally love your videos, man. I'm a chemistry student in Mexico, and if I were already sure that I wanted to become a chemist, your videos always reassure me about it. I would like to ask if you have any book recommendations, as well as studying methods. Again, thanks!

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +14

      +Itzael Tamayo hello! I am unfortunately not able to help you because I dont really know of any books to recommend. What do you mean by studying methods?

    • @HackztarcrkZ
      @HackztarcrkZ 8 років тому +9

      That's ok, I just thought you had a bunch of chem books lying around because you do know a lot! With studying methods I mean if you have any technique to help you understand chemistry things better, and learn about it as a result. Thanks again!

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +15

      Itzael Tamayo I think the most important thing is to just read about it, be interested in it and try to understand. Over time you will slowly build your knowledge!

  • @hussam9044
    @hussam9044 6 років тому +131

    Tired of having your entire setup burned over again by potassium fires?
    *FLEX TAPE!*

    • @user-yw8sr3uj1w
      @user-yw8sr3uj1w 4 роки тому +3

      Flex tape? Wouldnt that be for sealing stuff and preventing leaks instead of, you know, fire?

    • @hussam9044
      @hussam9044 4 роки тому +2

      @@user-yw8sr3uj1w dude its a meme, and god damn this comment is 2 years old wtf

    • @marceelino
      @marceelino 4 роки тому +7

      @@hussam9044 it's on the internet. Age is irrelevant.

    • @user-yw8sr3uj1w
      @user-yw8sr3uj1w 4 роки тому

      @@hussam9044 then make your memes make sense

    • @hussam9044
      @hussam9044 4 роки тому +8

      @@user-yw8sr3uj1w dude flex tape fixes everything, even broken marriages, that was the meme, plus this was 2 years ago, the meme died along your humor

  • @BackYardScience2000
    @BackYardScience2000 5 років тому +6

    To get all the pieces to coalesce you can melt it and use a glass syringe to directly inject the small pieces into the large one. That's what I do anyways. You just have to be sure that you aren't injecting other materials, so you always have that 1 tiny drop where you have to purge the storage liquid and a tiny bit of melted metal comes out.

  • @danistuffschannel7501
    @danistuffschannel7501 3 роки тому +3

    Kris get the banana-wait pottasium has metal in it?! still Kris get the banana.

    • @chaiznt
      @chaiznt 3 роки тому +2

      potassium is a metal

  • @gatovillano7009
    @gatovillano7009 Рік тому +6

    at 12:00. To prevent oxidation, you could displace the air out of your jar. You could do that with a vacuum or by adding nitrogen gas in the jar.

    • @jackychan7758
      @jackychan7758 Рік тому

      But anxiety would increase suddenly for the jar to break under vacuum.

    • @gatovillano7009
      @gatovillano7009 Рік тому

      @@jackychan7758 it depends on the machine you are using.
      When I was working at the University, we used 50 ml plastic tubes. we removed the cap and replace it with paper towel and put that inside the glass container.
      I've seen other labs use machines that had many metal racks. It looked like a baking oven but it was some fancy machine for lyophilisation that controled for many environmental conditions.
      This seems to be the standard now. I seen smaller but similar machines on cooking shows like Guga.

  • @RainMaxmin
    @RainMaxmin 8 років тому +128

    Hey, I want to be the first to comment on this video just to say: You make excelent videos about chemistry and keep up with the outstanding job!

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +33

      +Maxmin Rain Thanks! :)

    • @Atomos95
      @Atomos95 8 років тому +11

      +Nile Red I think this procedure is a very waste of time and resources. Potassium metal needs a purification under argon to be useful.

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +10

      RealChemistry Well not really. I mean, depending on how pure you want it to be. Even dirty potassium is still useful in reactions. It depends on how finicky your reaction is.

    • @Atomos95
      @Atomos95 8 років тому +3

      +Nile Red Potassium metal is mostly use in organometallic chemistry. Here we need all reagents super super pure and in argon atmosphere... for me it's a waste but i want to see some experiment with your potassium :)

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +8

      RealChemistry Yeah for some stuff it's not worth it. But organic stuff tends to be pretty robust. We can make potassium tertbutoxide, etc, even if its pretty dirty :)

  • @InDmand
    @InDmand 8 років тому +98

    Voting for you to make the N2O video.

    • @Alarykko
      @Alarykko 8 років тому +11

      +InDmand voting for you to huff the shit off that N2O

    • @InDmand
      @InDmand 8 років тому +12

      only if you huff the shit out of some NO2 first

    • @batsman46
      @batsman46 8 років тому +4

      +InDmand nerds going at it lmao.

    • @icy1260
      @icy1260 8 років тому +3

      +batsman46 look up the definition. You sound like half of the definition.

    • @batsman46
      @batsman46 8 років тому

      Rylan Patry ?

  • @andrearaimondi882
    @andrearaimondi882 5 років тому +1

    I love the safety aspects of this channel. I love, love, love them :)

  • @TSKTheShadowKnight
    @TSKTheShadowKnight 3 роки тому +6

    "Kris get the banana"

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 2 роки тому +2

    13:44 OH GOD AN OIL FIRE! QUICK GET SOME WATER, GET THE "EXTINGUISHING" GASOLINE! GET THE FIRE WOOD! CALL THE PROPANE COMPANY!

  • @roberthayward9299
    @roberthayward9299 8 років тому +5

    From my ancient memory, ethanol and sodium react to form the salt sodium ethoxide and hydrogen. It's an acid base reaction and I expect potassium would react in the same way. I imagine isopropanol would be a weaker acid but would react in the same way although with less vigour. The salt that forms might be potassium prop-2-oxide.

  • @_zander1025
    @_zander1025 3 роки тому +2

    “superoxide” sounds like the name of an indie rock band

  • @rayers1000
    @rayers1000 4 роки тому +17

    Me who failed he chem 1: hmmm very interesting. (only has a basic concept of what's happening)

  • @falxonPSN
    @falxonPSN Місяць тому +1

    Just remember when looking out for potassium superoxide, you can always spot it by the cape and the tights.

  • @Romenadan
    @Romenadan 8 років тому +28

    I've heard Tertiary alcohols, like Amyl alcohol works far better for cleaning up Potassium than Isopropyl. You should give that a try, even if small scale only. Supposedly it helps it coalesce too.

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +18

      +Matt “Sigurthr” Giordano Cool. Unfortunately I dont have any :(

    • @196Stefan2
      @196Stefan2 8 років тому +1

      +Matt „Sigurthr“ Giordano "Amylic Alcohol" isn't a tertiary alcohol, since Amylic alkohol is a synonym for n-Pentanol, which is of course a primary alcohol.

    • @Romenadan
      @Romenadan 8 років тому +7

      +196Stefan2 I was referring to this one; en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tert-Amyl_alcohol

    • @tyt0uoff146
      @tyt0uoff146 8 років тому

      You can make some, for exemple Chlorobutanol, by mixing Chloroform and aceton ;)

    • @JustinKoenigSilica
      @JustinKoenigSilica 7 років тому +1

      Matt then you have to say that. Tert. Amyl alkohol is something completely different to amyl alkohol...

  • @Khodazmoon
    @Khodazmoon 3 роки тому

    One of the best videos you have ever made

  • @qazsertyer
    @qazsertyer 8 років тому +6

    An idea for future videos: A Wittig reaction (use of phosphonium ylide).

  • @kipklop975
    @kipklop975 2 роки тому +2

    Please do more metal cleaning videos!!! They are so satisfying to watch ❤️

  • @ProjektOchExperiment
    @ProjektOchExperiment 8 років тому +4

    Thanks for the explanation on the potassium superoxide so much!!! I was wondering why it would explode if it got a thick enough oxide layer! Great video! Keep up the good work!

  • @SollowP
    @SollowP 3 роки тому +1

    A little tidbit I could add after the whole cleaning procedure is done would be to ad some kind of weight into the mineral oil, just to keep the potassium under the oil and out of contact with the air.

  • @pgood7266
    @pgood7266 4 роки тому +25

    I could never be a chemist, that jello looked way too tasty

    • @SaddleLight
      @SaddleLight Місяць тому

      Pretty sure it’d give you heartburn…

  • @HHJJUOLKI
    @HHJJUOLKI Рік тому +1

    How to clean you Potassium.
    Step one: throw it in a lake
    Step two: watch

  • @196Stefan2
    @196Stefan2 4 роки тому +4

    To the problem of the floating Potassium metal: I was facing the same issue for my Lithium samples and made a kind of a "holding-down-device" which consists of a round plastic disc with a steel screw in the center. The other end of the screw is led through a hole in the lid of my container and kept in position by two nuts. The plastic disk now forces the Lithium pieces to submerge below the oil surface. Nevertheless, my Li got grey all over its surface, in the course of some months. Originally it came (from China) in a sealed plastic bag under Argon and was shiny then.

  • @sunglow9835
    @sunglow9835 6 років тому

    I love your sarcasm when you pour some water into the beaker with potassium residue

  • @ldman538
    @ldman538 3 роки тому +3

    “Kris get the banana”

  • @ssd8827
    @ssd8827 3 роки тому

    I wish this channel was available when i was in school. I was curious of so many this shown in the videos. Glad to know about them now. 😌

  • @yourbad4015
    @yourbad4015 3 роки тому +3

    kris get the bannana, potasium

  • @Mobius118
    @Mobius118 2 роки тому +1

    “When it just sits there you can see how blue it is”
    *why you gotta attack me like that my dude*

  • @taifulin3943
    @taifulin3943 3 роки тому +4

    I found a kind of red stuff on silver crystal 15 years ago as well where I was just a junior high student. It was a single displacement reaction between Cu(s) and Ag+, after I got my silver crystal fully grown on a cooper wire, I pulled it from beneath the solution and found some kind of red-brownish substance covering on the metal surface. It looked like it was the metal itself has some interaction with air but I had no clue at all since no teacher could answer me, nor did I find any literature about it.

  • @klaricev3274
    @klaricev3274 8 років тому +1

    The spheres are beautiful.

  • @sohamgumaste
    @sohamgumaste 8 років тому +34

    Next - Cleaning old Cesium metal

    • @evelyndai8200
      @evelyndai8200 8 років тому +13

      No old francium

    • @evelyndai8200
      @evelyndai8200 8 років тому +1

      Sam T lolllll, it only last 22 seconds

    • @joshl1350
      @joshl1350 8 років тому +5

      +Jinyu Dai no. It lasts much longer than that. It has a half life of 22 minutes

    • @evelyndai8200
      @evelyndai8200 8 років тому

      +Josh Lukowicz huh really?

  • @morofry
    @morofry 3 роки тому +1

    To make cleaning easier, you could use argon in a fish tank to make an inert atmosphere. You can get argon from a welding supply store.

  • @mochigojo9753
    @mochigojo9753 5 років тому +9

    I always use potassium fire when i light my candles

  • @kipklop975
    @kipklop975 2 роки тому

    The blob is so satisfying to watch!!!!

  • @robmckennie4203
    @robmckennie4203 8 років тому +10

    could the oxide be blue because of a thin-film effect? I know that when you heat up steel you get an iron oxide layer that's coloured by the thin-film effect, and one of the colours it turns is a blue very like the one in the video

    • @TheRolemodel1337
      @TheRolemodel1337 6 років тому

      thought of that aswell but why wouldnt the color continiously change while the oxide film thickens?

  • @sciencestararvinsinghk
    @sciencestararvinsinghk 8 років тому +1

    Like most alcohols, isopropyl alcohol reacts with active metals such as potassium to form alkoxides that can be called isopropoxides. The reaction with aluminium (initiated by a trace of mercury) is used to prepare the catalyst aluminium isopropoxide.

  • @TerryClarkAccordioncrazy
    @TerryClarkAccordioncrazy 6 років тому +4

    How do you dispose of your chemical waste like the contaminated toluene?

  • @cobrasvt347
    @cobrasvt347 2 роки тому +1

    You are absolutely correct sir. Potassium is far more reactive than it's counterpart metal of sodium. Might as well combine them to form NaK which is an even more reactive formulation. 😉

  • @contemplatively
    @contemplatively 4 роки тому +4

    Amazing how much we don't know even when it comes to basic reactions

    • @kyrax9462
      @kyrax9462 3 роки тому

      About 1 year late, but what part of this video do we not know about any basic reactions?

  • @barmetler
    @barmetler 2 роки тому

    It's such a simple video but so satisfying

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 5 років тому +7

    13:00 Yet another example of how things can go from really good to really bad really fast.

  • @smilecloud2710
    @smilecloud2710 6 років тому +1

    The blue color might come from solvated electrons produced by fresh potassium surface. This paper published in Nature Chem might help: "Coulomb explosion during the early stages of the reaction of alkali metals with water" DOI: 10.1038/nchem.2161

  • @MaxRay16
    @MaxRay16 8 років тому +13

    Couldn't you eliminate a lot of the risks by using a cylinder of Argon and putting a tube beaker?

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +27

      +MaxRay16 that would require a cylinder of argon!

    • @eddievanhorn5497
      @eddievanhorn5497 6 років тому

      MaxRay16 argon is expensive.

    • @TheRolemodel1337
      @TheRolemodel1337 6 років тому

      @ eddie van horn its cheap
      1m^3 is about 20$ in hardwarestores
      its the cheapest noble gas because its released by the radioactive decay of 40^K

  • @lajoswinkler
    @lajoswinkler 8 років тому +1

    The colors on the metal don't need to be the colors of the actual compounds formed. They can very well be caused by light interfering with thin films per se. Remember what happens to stainless steel in flame?
    Also, remember this is toluene and it's not pure. The red stuff might be an organic compounds which has oxidized and precipitated. Some say it's potassium ozonide.
    There's really a lot of options. I've been cleaning potassium a long time ago and used same procedure, more or less. It was a pain in the ass.
    Oh yeah, and use a smaller storage jar. Great video. :)

  • @imthescatguy
    @imthescatguy 8 років тому +21

    the red stuff seems to appear when it touches your glove, maybe it's reacting with the glove or something?

    • @hugosolomon4836
      @hugosolomon4836 8 років тому +3

      gygabite I agree. I'm watching the video for a second time, and it definitely appears that the metal is reacting with the gloves. That blue color's just odd though.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 7 років тому +5

      Probably Potassium Ozonide. I am not sure if it is caused by the gloves or a contaminant on the gloves, but the color looks just like potassium ozonide. It is normally produced when potassium hydroxide comes in contact with ozone. Not what you want to see xD It is very unstable.

  • @zs9372
    @zs9372 2 роки тому +1

    Makes me wish I would have done more in school growing up, I love your videos

  • @etherraichu
    @etherraichu 3 роки тому +3

    Potassium.

  • @ghostshadownova3266
    @ghostshadownova3266 4 роки тому

    You should make audio versions of your videos, because I can fall asleep to these videos. Your voice is very soothing.

  • @j_sum1
    @j_sum1 8 років тому +6

    Thanks for this NileRed. It couldn't be more timely.
    The school where I teach has some potassium that is very old. It is not something replaceable -- schools are not supposed to have it any more. For this reason it has been used sparingly over the years and now has a lot of oxide -- to the point of becoming dangerous. One of those situations where regulation actually makes things less safe.
    Anyway, I was considering how I might clean it up and to have a tutorial to follow is just great. It helped that the exact moment that I was perusing your channel and found this, the school's work-place safety officer came around with some questions specifically related to the use of potassium and our risk assessment procedures. We watched the vid together.
    So, a couple of specific questions.
    Was the toluene dried or did you use it direct from the can?
    I saw you adding IPA dripwise. How long did this part of the process take?
    Would other alcohols (ie, ethanol) be equally suitable?

    • @MortRotu
      @MortRotu 8 років тому

      KOEt isn't so soluble in the solvents employed(toluene and mineral oil) so will form a coating over any remaining oxides effectively leaving the hazard behind. IPA is probably the best bet. I have a nice jagged 17 stitch scar on my arm from a NaK still clear up where I didn't use IPA, whatever you end up doing be careful.

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +2

      +j_sum1 j_sum1 I added it slowly, but I am not sure how long the process took. The toluene was not dried, I just used it directly form the can. The little bit of water in it will actually react with some of the oxides. I am not sure if other alcohols would work, honestly. The commenter below seems to think that ethanol wouldn't be a great choice.
      If you do this, just remember that a fire can start. To put it out, just cover the beaker with something. Don't use a fire extinguisher or freak out. It can lead to a much bigger problem.

    • @MortRotu
      @MortRotu 8 років тому +1

      Using anhydrous solvents will be less hazardous (M + H2O - > MOH + H2...) and you wouldn't loose any of your limited potassium stock, but the residual water in toluene won't be available to react/dissolve the oxide species. Your call. Personally I'd use anhydrous to limit the potential hazards but I'm used to working in a lab with an ample supply of them...

    • @j_sum1
      @j_sum1 8 років тому +1

      Thanks for that MortRotu and NileRed.
      I'll stick with the IPA then. I'll do a test with the toluene we have available and if it is not to vigorous then I will proceed. If there look to be issues then I will dry it first.

    • @MortRotu
      @MortRotu 8 років тому

      +j_sum1 j_sum1 no problem, I happy to help. If the toluene is too wet you can dry it out reasonably well with some molecular sieves (4A ones for preference, but any size that absorbs water and not toluene would work fine) and not cause your H&S person palpitations by doing a still. It'll still have a fraction of a % H2O in but shouldn't react anywhere near as vigorously as 'wet' toluene would.
      I hope a PhD in nitride materials synthesis becomes more useful than answering questions on YT...

  • @pietrotettamanti7239
    @pietrotettamanti7239 6 років тому +2

    I think that the red stuff comes from the reduction of the nitrile groups in your nitrile gloves. Then the red stuff is dissolved by the toluene (being an organic substance it will be quite soluble in nonpolar solvents).

  • @vincejohnm
    @vincejohnm 8 років тому +6

    Synthetic organic chemist here. I just discovered your channel and I have to say this is pretty great stuff. Keep up the good work. I am currently finishing up my grad work with Nile red and Nile blue analogues. Are you a dye chemist or did you just like the name?

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому +2

      +Vincent Martinez hey! I am not a dye chemist at all. I just randomly chose the name

    • @loganmante3321
      @loganmante3321 8 років тому +1

      +Nile Red I thought it would be interesting to see some chromatography

    • @NileRed
      @NileRed  8 років тому

      Logan Mante Probably would. I might do it in the future but i am honestly not a fan of it. It is usually pretty tedious.

    • @JuryDutySummons
      @JuryDutySummons 7 років тому

      Vincent, he has beakers with the channel name on them - you should get some. :D

  • @Mdsde
    @Mdsde 8 років тому +2

    Your videos are so mesmerising. I've watched the sodium cleaning 3 times.

  • @bbsonjohn
    @bbsonjohn 8 років тому +6

    You don't know why the oxides are blue? They are being removed, that's why they are blue. :(

  • @alexoftheway8169
    @alexoftheway8169 4 роки тому

    That's got to be the cleanest sample of a group 1 metal that I've ever seen!

  • @BlackWolf42-
    @BlackWolf42- 8 років тому +12

    KCN/NaCN synthesis.

    • @NextGenAge
      @NextGenAge 8 років тому +6

      Maybe it's better to leave it to professionals to work with that stuff. Extremely toxic and a environmental hazard. Don't want to see beginners/amateurs messing with it and disposing it incorrectly.

    • @somefool6409
      @somefool6409 8 років тому +8

      little did he know nurdrage posted a video one week later

    • @jfstrength1144
      @jfstrength1144 7 років тому +1

      Nurd rage did it

    • @NextGenAge
      @NextGenAge 7 років тому +2

      I wonder how many people attempted this and died..

    • @bitterlemonboy
      @bitterlemonboy 4 роки тому

      @@NextGenAge What? Sodium cyanide is not that dangerous. You probably can pour it down the drain. It's way safer than some chemicals

  • @jasonzhang1320
    @jasonzhang1320 3 роки тому +1

    **sees potassium**
    *NICE*

  • @reneeanderson1820
    @reneeanderson1820 6 років тому +7

    Cody’s lab rambles on trying to demonstrate the fire while Nilered is just avoiding
    Slow clap

  • @supersophisticated9943
    @supersophisticated9943 2 роки тому +1

    5:23 add light axle grease, make it cry, burn it, and let it swim /ref

  • @derekwildstar2547
    @derekwildstar2547 8 років тому +4

    the red stuff appearing when clean potassium is exposed to air should be potassium ozonide (KO3)

    • @leocurious9919
      @leocurious9919 6 років тому

      It seems to be some form of reaction with the gloves or their blue color. Its very unlikely KO3 as there is no ozone source and reactive alcohol in the solution.

    • @knutritter461
      @knutritter461 5 років тому

      @@leocurious9919 Ozonide can have enriched over the amount of time and is part of that crust! Especcially in populated areas there can be 'high' amounts of ozone in our atmosphere. Check your parts made out of silver! Regular oxygen cannot corrode it. Next to sulphur compounds, ozone has a big effect on silver, too!

    • @leocurious9919
      @leocurious9919 5 років тому

      @@knutritter461 Its really obvious that it is a reaction that takes place during his handling that produces this red stuff which is also soluble in the solvent.

  • @therealPelo
    @therealPelo Рік тому

    You can tell this is the old and more responsible NileRed, mostly because he didn't cut the potassium while it was still dirty.

  • @Vulpovile
    @Vulpovile 4 роки тому +3

    The red stuff almost seems to appear where you touched it, could it be reacting with the gloves?

  • @張謙-n3l
    @張謙-n3l 5 днів тому

    "Reactions of ethanol over metal oxides"
    I've found this old paper published in 2000, discussing the reaction between metal oxides and ethanol, hope it could be useful if you need

  • @silverchromee188
    @silverchromee188 3 роки тому +3

    Potassium

  • @redmadness265
    @redmadness265 2 роки тому

    I believe that blue oxide color was from some suboxide of potassium. Cesium has many well documented suboxides and are all very strongly colored, and it isn't unreasonable to assume that potassium does the same.

  • @voxeldragon6908
    @voxeldragon6908 3 роки тому +3

    Queen would love this video, though knowing her she'd use bananas and battery acid, which probably is a bad idea.

  • @LCARS43278
    @LCARS43278 8 років тому

    I'm sure somebody already answered this better but I did some R&D work for a company about 15 years ago and in my research I ended up learning about anodizing as it was related to the project I was working on and it's basically a process of electrolytically induced and controlled oxidation. I may be wrong but I suspect the blue color of the surface oxide that forms on it is due to the specific thickness that the first order oxide layer as it stabilizes, and that causes some interference effect with light at that wavelength (sort of like the effect of opal and labradorite).
    From what I remember in my research in to chromic anodizing, the thickness of the oxide layer is what corresponds with a wavelength of light that will be reflected instead of absorbed the most when going through it and that becomes the "color" you see. When you anodize aluminum , titanium or rhodium, you can vary the voltage and electrolytes used to achieve a certain "color" effect on the surface of the metal that in itself is not a dye or tint but yet produces an almost eerie effect of only allowing a specific narrow band of light to escape from it's surface. So by controlling the exact thickness of the oxide layer to reflect or maybe "re-emit" light of that wavelength you achieve an array of surface color effects.
    The principal is that the potential for oxygen bonds is initially going to be high on a conductive metal surface when no oxide layer yet exists, as seen by the rapid formation of the oxide layer when the potassium was exposed to air, but as that layer of much less electrically conductive oxide thickens, it will quickly reach a point where the potential energy to overcome the oxide layer exceeds the input energy and it stabilizes there. Sorry I can't site a specific source, just spewing something out of memory from years ago.

    • @robmckennie4203
      @robmckennie4203 8 років тому

      LCARS43278 it's called the thin-film effect, happens with oxide on steel too. it was and sometimes still is used as a protective finish, and I'm pretty sure it's the reason the black finish on firearms is called gun blue

  • @kotapippen
    @kotapippen 8 років тому +3

    Around 10:00, the potassium looks like some kind of sea urchin with all the bubbles surrounding it.

  • @Reichstaubenminister
    @Reichstaubenminister 2 роки тому

    I really, really, really like this video.