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As a real Boeing and Airbus pilot, I love Airbus more if we’re talking about comfort and user friendly interfaces. If I were to fly in an emergency, I prefer Boeing. When I grab the yoke of a Boeing, the plane does not argue with me, resist my input or “think about it.” I have never had to compete with a computer for control on a Boeing. Dont get me wrong, I love both aircraft.
Azhal Halil yes you can, just not at the same time and you probably still need some more training. Fighter jet pilots sometimes become commercial pilots with a stick or yoke. Helicopter pilots can fly cessnas.
I really like Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, Embraer, if It's aviation I love it. Of all of them I personally prefer Boeing. And that's a really biased statement because my Grandfather worked for Boeing. If it weren't for that I would be pretty close to liking them both.
Coming from a GA, military and flying the 737 commercially background, Ive experienced different philosophies. The F/A-18 and combat aircraft in general are much more “Airbussy” than you would think. More times than not, the computer is deploying your ordinance payload, your just driving the bomb bus. The 73 is just so uncomfortable for anything over 2 hrs. If my airline had opted to bring in baby buses, I’d have volunteered to fly them. My heart would always belong to Boeing, but their is a lot to be said for being able to walk upright. But I’m tall, a smaller person would probably be fine.
I like Boeing because I don't like being controlled! Also, my Dad retired from Boeing, my brother is a mechanic on Boeing planes, and I live in Renton, which is where 737's are made! I enjoy your videos. Thanks!
I like the Airbus cockpit a lot because it seems like a more technologically advanced cockpit. But the Boeing cockpit looks more like a proper cockpit. A good mix of new and old.
Yeah, Airbus will never give a true airliner feel with their tiny little sidesticks. It's like trying to drive a car with a slider rather than a wheel.
In my opinion, Airbus cockpits look cooler (especially at night), they are clearly much more spacious and comfortable for pilots, I love the sidestick as it allows space for a traytable, I prefer the dark cockpit philosophy with pushbuttons, the ECAM is an excellent helpful tool, the displays look better, the autopilot system makes more sense (AP1 and AP2 instead of LNAV, VNAV, all the CMD options and the lack of the course knob making things simpler). In an emergency, I would also much rather be in an airbus - it tells you what is happening and literally gives you a lift of responses. And airbuses are more comforable for passengers in my opinion (in terms of a320 vs 737 and a380 vs 747).
Two comments on that: 1. both Boeings and Airbusses have dark cockpit philosophies, the only difference is that the 737 (and earlier, but not later models) has switches that you can feel the position of rather than buttons that you have no choice but to look at to see their position. 747, 757, 767, 777, and 787 all have pushbuttons. Though on a separate note, I personally much prefer the Boeing overheads, buttons or switches, because the scanflows are much smoother, thanks to the different systems on separate subpanels in straightforward columns. 2. AP1 and AP2 on Airbus correspond to Autopilot A and B on a 737, Autopilot Left, Center and Right on 747/757/767, and just A/P on 777/787, not the autopilot modes. The LNAV, VNAV, FLC, VOR/LOC, APP, etc. modes correspond to the different combinations of pushing in and pulling out the knobs on an airbus, and I find a single button press to get into the desired mode much easier than setting a certain combination. And as for the course knob, that's for using VORs/Localizers (hence the VOR/LOC button, and the APP button is the same as on airbus). I have no idea how you're supposed to use them without a course knob, as it's a huge part of using that kind of navaid. As for all the rest, well, an opinion's an opinion.
I’m late, I know. I started off in the A320. I love it to this day. But I see myself now switching to Boeing simply due to manual flying. I feel the Airbus is so much more choppy, and Boeing is smooth. I fly the 787 and learning the 777. I want to learn to fly the 737 but the cockpit just looks like they randomly stuck buttons with random switches everywhere 😂 I can’t chose between boeing and Airbus.
I started off with the 737-800 with the demo version of x-plane11. But soon i tried other simulators and converted to airbus and started flying the A320. Now i am pretty experienced with the a320 and in my opinion, i think bowing cockpits are pretty messy, but airbus cockpits are layed out, like this area is the fire test, this area is the lights, fuel, etc. But still i think we all should learn how to fly new aircraft to make your brain good with capacity and learning.
Since I started with FS2004, I started on the 737-400. However, over time I found I loved the Airbus system… I’ve always been a techie person, and I truly appreciate the way Airbus’ systems work. However, I’ve been using Aerofly FS, they just came out with a 2022 version which now includes the Boeing 787. I’ve tried learning Boeing’s systems, and it’s definitely interesting; I’d say it’s easier to learn Boeing, then go to Airbus, rather than the other way around. Thanks for your awesome videos!
I too love Boeings...especially the old 247. When Western Airlines had their 50th anniversary here in Salt Lake City in 1977 I had the privilege of being part of the crowd who got to climb through it. Wonderful little beast.
Concerning reason 3: Besides Boeing recommending the use of A/T for landing, too, on some types (B777, B787), why don‘t you just disconnect the A/T? YOU are the pilot! My old company even has a manual flight, manual thrust policy, meaning that if you fly manually, thrust has to be controlled manually, too.
I'll fly either, love PMDG, love Aerosoft, Personally I prefer the cockpit layout of Airbus, its more sleek and modern with buttons instead of knobs and switches of the older Boeing
The plane that really got me started in real flight simulation was X-Plane 11's default 737. I mastered it within a few weeks of getting the sim (for Christmas). Then I upgraded to the Zibo, and then I fell in love with the 737. It's my go-to aircraft if I want to fly (because I don't have any payware aircraft... yet) on VATSIM. I've always loved Boeing especially since I live next to Paine Field where Boeing's Everett Plant is, lol. Anyway, greetings from Everett! By the way, my first flight lesson was a couple months ago in a Cessna 152 in not-so-great typical, rainy, overcast Seattle weather with a ceiling of 1800 feet. :P
I like Boeing in general more, but I have really fallen in love with the A350 as of late. Airbus is incredibly subtle... At first you don't know if you're in autothrottle or if you're going to end up following the flight plan. You do get used to it and certain things I end up liking more, namely the autothrottle. You can put in input and override very easily. However Boeing is way more intuitive.
I really enjoyed watching this video. Thank you, my friend for your continuing work for all of us who do truly enjoy being simmers of every aircraft. You make it much more approachable for us, which adds to our enjoyment. Please keep your smiling face near the camera, help us keep flying fun! Best Regards, E. Unohu
I’m a student working on my CPL, I’ve flown c172 and pa28. I was a Boeing fan, but I have to say my training experience truly changed my feelings about airbus and its sidestick. Why the yoke is kind of annoying? 1. it’s always hitting your knees 2. Takes up a lot of space in front of you 3. You have to constant trim the airplane, otherwise the yoke will become very heavy to handle.
Robert Gaylord true. I had to adjust my knee board the other day during a flare to give more space for the yoke to travel. And I have an examiner sitting next to me while I performed such a stunt.
Think about an emergency situation like this : you've got electric failure, twin engine flameout you will have no control without electricity and you are dead because of fly by wire side stick, you cannot even glide. Yokes are mechanically connected and will save your life.
@@shreethesmart2942 Even so, just because two engines fail, it doesn't mean the airbus is uncontrolable. It only is, if you play the aerosoft version. The airbus control surfaces rely on hydraulics. The hydraulic pressure is etablished by electricity, like it is in any modern Boeing plane too (777, 787, 747-8, and I believe the 737NGX as well). If both engines fail the electric pump keeps working now powered by the batteries (for the short time until the APU has started) and imediatly continues to provide hydraulic pressure to insure the controlability of the plane. Another common myth is that you have to compete against the airbus' flight computers. BS, they only prevent the aircraft from doing dangerous maneuvers like e.g. too high bank angle, too high pitch angle or too high descend rate (just to name a few) and since you don't need any of these maneuvers in emergency situation (for emergency descend in case of sudden cabin depressurisation it, of course, does not deny a high sink rate), there is no need to fight them. Even if the flight computers fail you don't have to fight them in an epic "human vs robot" way, since you can simply turn them off by the means of three switches located on the overhead panel and can still fly the aircraft with litterally unrestricted control.
9,000 hours B767 and 1,000 hours B787. Both brilliant aircraft and as you suggest, they are pilots aeroplanes and fly in predictable and logical ways. The 787 is quite something with the application of fly by wire, it smooths out a lot of configuration and speed changes really well. The HUD is the massive leap forward from the 767 and I’m not sure if that is workable in flight sim.
Amazing video, I started with fsx, so I had already an Airbus as default along with the 737 and 747. Since I'm a Lufthansa fan and simulate their flights, I fly the short hauls with fslabs a320 and long haul with the pmdg 747 so I'm used to both and love them both.
@@AviationPro Partially because I started with it but I would love to get into boeing or at least try it out. Just going to save for a boeing plane. Any recommendations? I am personally thinking the 747
I'm not taking any sides but Boeing is easy to fly than airbus, it's like driving a car (100000000000times harder to fly any plane compared to car I was kidding) airbus don't let you control fully by yourself. You can ditch plane immediately to the ground in Boeing (bcoz no fbw system, mechanical connection) . Think about an emergency situation like this : you've got electric failure, twin engine flameout you will have no control without electricity and you are dead because of fly by wire side stick, you cannot even glide. Yokes are mechanically connected and will save your life.
Airbus' first two airplanes the A300 and A310 had yokes which were mechanically connected to the control surfaces, but Boeings last two airplanes (777, 787) have yokes that are FBW. 🙂 Also, if both engines flame out, you still have the APU for electrical power (like Sully did when ditching in the Hudson), and if that fails the batteries will still operate the control surfaces, but in Direct Law, meaning without any computers operating to modify pilot inputs for flight envelope protection or even to provide the proper response or feel (like the MCAS provides on the Boeing 737 MAX). Flying in Direct Law mode can be like flying a totally different airplane with a totally different type rating, which pilots are typically not used to. It was the cause of the infamous Air Asia crash where the pilot decided to reboot the flight control computers in mid-flight to clear a fault message, and lost control while in Direct Law while the reboot was in progress.
I also prefer Boeing for many of the same reasons you do, but I am a bit older than you and remember my neighbors taking me to O'Hare Field to see America's first jetliner the 707. I was so impressed and couldn't believe how big it was compared to the prop liners of that era. The 707 is still my aircraft of choice in Flight Simulator, but I haven't found one yet for the latest version of 2020, so hopefully someone will come out with one. I just downloaded the latest version of FS 2020, and so far I have not even been able to taxi around the airport or even fly which is why I am watching a lot of videos about it on You Tube. I have been using Flight Simulator since their first version, and eventually I learned how to do scenery design since I wanted the airports I was flying to, to be realistic. I think it was FS 2004 where I created most of my scenery in, but after that my stuff no longer worked in later versions and I would have had to learn all new programs, so it just kind of fell by the wayside. In Flight Simulator X I bought a Mega Scenery of Southern California where I live now and flew mostly between Los Angeles and San Diego which was all very familiar territory for me, but then the game just kind of went by the wayside with Microsoft, so I tried X-Plane, but hated it, so I never used it. When I heard about FS 2020 I got very excited, so I'm finally getting back into it, but it is very different than previous versions, and I don't have my flight yolk set up yet so I am just kind of easing into it. Boeing also makes the best looking planes, and I was glad to see the MD-80's being retired since they were very ugly. Airbus with the 319 and 320 series are also ugly with their bulbous noses and more forward mounted wings. I also prefer a yolk rather than a joystick. Thanks for your video, I gave it a thumbs up.
Started with PDMG 737-800 (with hud👍). Its a great plane and I had a lot of fun, but still switched to Aerosoft A319 and some time ago to A320. Since I only have a flightstick and no flightyoke using Airbus feels more realistic to me. Also for Airbus its not so importent to feel g-forces, which we cannot simulate with a simple desktop sim. And for me the airbus workflow is more structured and logical. Even without checklist its difficult to forget something if you set up for a flight phase. Btw Airbus A318, A319, A320, A321 and A330 all have the same layout except some minor systems depending on configuration choices by the airlines.
Just wanted to drop by and say thank you for your vatsim tutorials and advice as I am now really starting to enjoy flying on vatsim without feeling so anxious and sweaty! I have done about 5 or 6 flights now on the network in the 737-800 and have recently started to use voice as well to build up my confidence more! I might start learning some airbus aircraft soon as well!
Your #5 reason is not really valid, if you fly the a320, you’lls also be able to transition to the whole airbus family very fast because they all are the same philosophy and have even more similar workflows and layouts... (let’s take the a220 appart, but then boeing has also the 717 which is an MD)
It was more a reason to keep flying Boeing, because I know I simply don’t have the time to study Airbus in detail like I studied Boeing aircraft in the last years. Of course, when you fly Airbus it will be even more simple to switch to any other aircraft in that family, because they are even more similar than between the Boeings.
Great video! I too loved the fs9 level-d 767. I took many years off (got married, had kids) and now have purchased p3d v4 and enjoy the majestic dash 8 q400, a2a c172 with gtn750 and pmdg 737. Hoping one day the level-d 767 will be updated for p3d v4. I feel at home in the Boeing cockpit. Although when I got my PPL it was entirely in the diamond da20 which has a control stick. I wish there was good quality of a da20 or da40 available. Thanks for your video!
Fair enough - I loved the Level D 767 too. Such a shame it’s not compatible with P3Dv4. All of the PMDG Boeing aircraft are a joy to fly. Of course not all flight simulation aircraft are created equal and I don’t think you can judge Airbus properly from the Aerosoft version (though it’s good visually and for frame rates). I’ve fallen in love with the FSLabs A320. The immersion, realism and depth of system simulations is something else. I know I sound like a fanboy but the Air Traffic Service Unit (ATSU) features in the latest update, allowing you to request and receive pre departure clearance, order and check fuel via GSX and request performance calculations, have lifted it to another level. Yes, it’s very expensive but worth it in my opinion. Definitely my favourite aircraft in P3D. 🤔
Would love to see a proper 767 sometime for P3D :) I am not just making that comparison between PMDG and Aerosoft though, it’s also based on simulator experience in both. And even when I do, I keep in the back of my mind that their level of detail differ, yet I do believe that the Aerosoft provides a great sense of what an Airbus feels like, at least in basic operations flying from A to B.
All valid reasons. Boeing’s are awesome! Airbus man myself, specifically the A320 family, simply because I grew up flying in them (Monarch Airlines/easyJet), and ended up putting the professional Airbus A320 addons on my simulator first. Aerosoft. Still, it doesn’t stop me from trying out a Boeing every now and then. But we all know the flying is what counts, we can all fly whatever we like. Great video as always Evert. Max.
I started with MSFS 98. So I too grew up with the Boeings. And Yes, I prefer them still. But I don’t think its all about the biased nature of growing up with those planes. I think you nailed it when you said “you feel more in control in a Boeing” Absolutely! That’s it right there!
You may want to get your hands on the Bombardier CSeries (Airbus A220), which combines moving throttles and fly-by-wire, Airbus-style soft limits, Boeing-style flight control laws mated to a sidestick (but no force-feedback). This ultimately feels and hand-flies as a traditional aircraft. Pilots may also appreciate the big wings and huge bypass turbofans which give this aircraft phenomenal short-field performance and climbs fast straight to cruise altitude (typically FL400/410).
I am Boeing fan too. The 7xx's are all very similar to fly. My real challenge is flying the PMDG MD-11. Totally different bird from FMC to FCP to handling!
I agree Boeing as several points ahead of Airbus to my view. The logical design and the behaviour of the MCP , the FMC , the throttle give me a better sense of control and is more comprehensive , especially in emergency situation. The fly by wire of Airbus May be confusing as you don't see what the pilot flying is doing ....remember Air France Rio Paris ! It's my personal opinion ...
So my journey in flightsims startet in FSX i loved flying the pmdg 737 and also grew up with the Boeing 747 in FSX. Now in xp11 i still prefer Boeing over other planes and i couldnt explain it better. I remember my first time trying the A320 in xp11. In some points i was shocked. My freind who flies Airbus all the time explained everything to me and while programming the route in the MCDU I asked him where to put all the little information for the fuel and vspeeds and stuff and i remembered him saying: You dont have to do anything the computer does it for you.
My reasons for flying Airbus are pretty much identical. My first payware was Aerosoft A320 for FSX and that is aircraft I learned how to fly airliners and different procedures (IFR, VOR, ILS, SID and STAR etc). I do love how Airbus cockpit looks and I like how basically every Aibrus from A319 all the way up to A380 have same look and things are about the same. I only recently got into Boeing when Zibo made famous free add on for X-Plane 11. I do like to fly it every now and then and I do see charm of 737 but I still feel more home in cockpit of A320. I also think one reason is what type of aircraft your "home airline" uses. As you live in Netherlands I bet KLM has to be close to your heart and they mainly use Boeing. I live in Finland so Finnair is very close to my heart and their fleet is almost entirely Airbus. Both manufacturers have their pros and cons and after all we are flying on same sky because we are passionate about flying!
Hi Aviation Pro, you are absolutely correct, i believe same since last 4 yrs i'm only flying Boeing B737 in xplane & P3D personally to me Airbus is less complex than boeing and Airbus cockpit looks more plastic where as an example B737 cockpit looks more metallic design all the button and Nobs, challenging to fly where Airbus is fly by wire quit easy to fly auto pilot do more stuff then boeing, i'm a serious flight simmers so i don't change aircraft often, i prefer to learn about 1 particular aircraft more and more... and i will fly many more years with B737-800
I Agree I prefer Boeing to say Airbus, for practical reasons,you can manually fly a boeing in the event of a engine loss for example say a Bird strikewhere as a air bus would just fall out of the sky as everything is computer controled , ie meaning you cant manually fly or even do a forced landing, it has no manual control if it came to it a airbus would just crash end of story.
Boeing fan here but I have yet to fly an airbus, I'm still learning. I really enjoy the flow of the panels in Boeing. The 777 F is my favourite to do long haul on vatsim. Learnt on the 738 and the move to the 777 felt natural. Since the Zibo mod is free, i got hooked on Boeing. Got to hand it to him, it's an amazing plane for free. Anyway I don't think it would feel right to fly an airbus with my Saitek yolk, and I don't want to go back to just a flight stick :D
Reason #5 has the biggest point in my opinion. Not only does this apply to understanding systems, having flown a Boeing in the beginning (after flight training obviously) also includes withstanding higher workload than in the airbus. In my former airline, when the last 737s were taken out of service, as a former Boeing F/O it was possible to become a captain WHILE achieving the airbus type rating. This would not have been possible the other way round. An A320-F/O would not have been allowed to switch to the 737 and getting CAPT-upgraded at the same time. :)
Saved best for last ;). That's indeed interesting! That's why many airlines also only allow you to fly one or two particular aircraft types, even though you would be able to get multiple type ratings I guess, to prevent confusion in the operation of the aircraft :)
That‘s correct. There are basically three things that have to be (almost) identical from type to type in order to allow multiple type ratings: systems, cockpit layout and (VERY important) memory items in operation. Personally, I‘m a fan of Boeing as well. I didn’t like having to switch to the airbus at first. Now, I have to admit that I clearly see the advantages. Workload decreased insanely and tbh: I love the table in the cockpit. That’s kind of a deal maker. ;) Nevertheless I‘d also love to fly a Boeing again. But these days, european pilot market won‘t always allow you to freely choose the plane you fly. It‘s rather a matter of employment or unemployment. But we‘ll see what the future brings.
i started with airbus and i've always been a fan of airbus. December 2020 i bought the pmdg and it was allot different than the a320, i never took the time to learn it so i didnt fly it much. Ofc now i know how to fly it but im still a fan of airbus but the 737 is still fun to fly
Hi aviationpro, hope you read this. I have a question for a next video. Can you maybe make a video where you tell us how you get so much atc coverage on vatsim? And maybe you can make a list of most popular frequencies where it’s atc coverage almost every time? Thank you.
Already covered topics like that in my VATSIM 2017 Tutorial Series. Look for events on the VATSIM website, and simply fly during the evening (local time) and in weekends, that will be your best bet at having ATC.
Yeh. Given the choice between Boeing and Airbus, I'll take Boeing. There's one main reason: My first really high-end aircraft I bought was the PMDG737. Shortly after that I bought their 777. From then on I just never got on with the Airbuses. The Boeings always just felt like the default to me. The benchmark from which all others must compare. I realise in actually what I'm doing is comparing Airbus sims to the PMDG ones, which is a very different thing and frankly slightly unfair given the latter's sheer quality, but this attitude is do ingrained now that I feel even if I were a professional pilot, had I the chance to experience both I would definitely enjoy the Boeings more. Much more.
The fact that a modern sim can reflect such intricate differences between aircraft types, to the point of a normal human preference for the overall ambience of everyday usage appearing, just like with pilots and planes irl, speaks quite alot about their quality.
Absolutely! True flying will always remain different, but having accurate systems gives you a good sense of what the different types are like to fly and to operate.
what I really don't like about the airbus is that you don't have the turn vector shown on the ND like the Boeings have it. So if you fly manually with the Airbus, it's not so easy to fly turns.
@@Treadstone7 also with another positive with airbus is that there is a digital check list on the ecam screen and turns green when each item is done on the check list and if the engine is on fire there will be a procedure check list to follow to solve the fire problem on the ecam page. ect.
@@AV8R98 yeah but only the before takeoff and landing checklist... non-normal checklist ist also there but Airbus doesn't have the other ones like preflight, before startup and so on.
@@AviationPro I agree with Captain Eren on this. I have flown both aircarfts as a passenger and i keep doing it - I live in Portugal but i am Working on belgium so i am used to be a passenger at least 2 times per month (when i go back to Portugal and then come back to belgium). For a passenger, airbus feels much more stable, confortable and safe then boeing. Even the landings comparing 737 with the a320, in the boeing 737 all the landings seems more hard then with the a320. Guess it has something to do with the hight of the plane since boeing 737 is not as high as the a320. The 737 was designed to land in every airport without the need of equipments for the passengers to leave the aircraft (737 even has a proper set of stairs within the aircraft at the front door which they use a lot of times).
Yeah, as an aviation enthusiast I will choose Boeing over Airbus without a doubt, but when it comes to passenger comfort, Airbus does take the lead in that.
For me personally ... it's because when it comes to flightsims (especially P3D) it's mostly Boeing jets that have the high-fidelity, close-to-real packs (e.g. PMDG with its 737, 747, and 777)
Reason 4 is a reason to prefer Airbus if you ask me. The cockpits in almost all of their aircraft are nearly identical, and certainly much more similar than the 737 and 777.
Thank you I have learned so much from you flying the PMDG 737 on FSX. I have been learning the A320 FBW on MSFS because there is no real Boeing but it is taking too long to get realistic. I have started leaning more toward Airbus because it is the way things will go even for Boeing--look at the 777! I have decided to get Prepar3D and the FS Labs A320 and learn to fly the thing properly. I think the future is MSFS, the graphics are superb but I am impatient--it's taking too long for study level aircraft to appear! I still like taking the Cessna 172 for a spin every now and again to keep my manual skills going!
If u know to operate even one boeing aircraft, Then u dint need a manual to operate another boeing a/c . I became familiar with the 777 and 747 without using a manual just bcoz i knew to fly NGX!
As I said many types, I like AIrbus more, because the cocpit is more clean and more futuristic... yeah, I flew Airbuski (SSJ100LR), so I'm biased. And I'm trying to get a job in Air Baltics on D8H or A220... But in the end, job is job, and if I will end with Ryanair and B738, then I will fly B738 :D
My situation is extremely weird with boeing and airbus, i remember once i was loving my ZIBO 737 so much i flew it for 50 times in a row.... and then i once decided to get back on my FF A320 and from the first flight i flew in lovw with it and completely forgot the 737 even existed, i flew that it for 50 times in a row, my mind just snapped like that and everytime this happends, now im back at boeing, and i dont even think about the a320 anymore, it just keeps going
I love Boeing too for many of the same reasons, though I think you got cockpit layout a bit backwards....I enjoy them because philosophies might be similar, but you know which plane you are flying and the experiences are unique. The 737, MAX, 777, 787 are uniquely distinct and different.With Airbus, it not only looks bland but sitting there you can’t tell if you’re in an A319 or A330! Not much love for that. That being said...Airbus and Embraer cockpit philosophies are superior and easier to learn. I own the Majestic Q400, and I always have difficulty relearning it. Meanwhile, I haven’t touched an airbus since the old PSS days and I could easily jump back into it today if I wanted to without reading the manual.
LevelD 76, wish they were still around and that they’d finished the 75. I don’t think a more stable addon has been made since. (And I’m an Airbus guy too 😉)
I'm also just a flight simmer (but flying on Airbus only) but for me landing on autothrust is something really weird and I always disconnect it. But as far as I know in real world it's not true that most landings on Airbus are done with ATHR.
Don't forget the two (2) unforgettable B737-MAX's crashes. That took many lives.. this is the plane maker haywire computer system.. so no certification available for b737-7 max and b737-10max... Boeing don't also believe there's mistake on MCAS faulty system..
I Prefer Boeing to and basically for the Same reason. First i like the looks of the Aircraft and the flight Deck more on Boring and i just love to have a Yoke in front of me. And Second I started the flying and learning the Study-Level Aircraft with the PMDG 777 and 737 so I'm just love them. Another Reason is that i love Study-Level aircraft as i want to have the most realistic experience and the learn the different systems and share the process. But these Aircraft are understandably expensive and you can fly only one Aircraft at the time. So in my case I have the PMDG 737 / 747 / 777 and the A2A Comanche and C172 and with the Limited time i can't fly them all so its usually the 737 or Comanche (I Absolutely love those Planes) so adding Airbus into the virtual hangar wouldn't make sense as i would probably not fly them so often that it would worth the investment.
I also flew fs2004 and flew There with boeing. But after a long time i got me p3d and got me a airbus and i loved it but now i also want to fly with boeing accept of 737-800max
You mean you don't like that you can feel the position of the switch as well as look at the light next to it? Don't worry, only the 737 has both switches that you can feel and are satisfying to use, and lights that tell you if anything's wrong. The rest are your average "if you don't look at it you have no idea what position it's in" buttons.
If you ask airbus pilots on twitch you’ll see they disconnect autothrust when then take manual control on landing, this way they anticipate their need for thrust.
Hi, a question, i am pretty sure you know about those cabin sound files for FSLABS Airbus. those are triggered by specific events like boarding. Push Back etc. Is there anything similar available for the PMDG World? I am looking forward to your answers. Btw, i know FS2Crew has something like that, but with FSLABS you have soundpacks for all carriers, like Eurowings, Jetblue etc.... You got my point?
the whole point of simming is to get a feeling of flying of course, and the feeling is already limited by being in a computer, so you feel the need to immerse more and thats what Boeing can give you compared to Airbus, Boeing is more complex, even the feeling of flicking switches and the amount of pilot input is more demanding, Airbus philosophy is to make the plane simpler and easier to fly and I personally need a challenge to keep me interested in flying sims :)
Sir can you help the new people to configure and build their idle PC for p3d latest versions and for various payware add-ons step by step tutorial guide as on all UA-cam channels there is no support and guide for the new people who wish to built their flight simulation PC same like yours think u blessings
When I do my standard 40 mins flights on Boeing, I always have something to do. When Im on Airbus, I usually just stare. I know it is for safety readons but for a flight simmer it is a little boring
Yeah, Airbus is the kind of airplane you just stare and let the airplane do the things, from takeoff to landing all is done automatically. What you have to do is enter the flight plan. But sometimes, I try to fly manually .
I used to be Boeing lover but I changed my mind and love Airbus now. PS: your #5 you said if you fly 737 you can fly 747,767,787. Well 747 and so on, is way different than 737. In real life you need 2-3 months of training while Airbus 320 has almost the same cockpit as A330 and you need just a week to get type rating. So this one is better on an Airbus.
I was of course refering to flightsim only, but yes it does indeed take quite a bit of training to update! :) However, I'm sure all Boeings look and feel familiar in some, and the same in Airbus, but perhaps the A320 and A330 even more so. Looking forward to try the Aerosoft A330 once it's out.
@@AviationPro Having identical cockpits across all aircraft is one of Airbus USPs. If you look at the A320 vs. A330 cockpit, there's almost no difference. That is so it's cheaper and quicker for airlines to retrain their pilots for a new rating. An A318 pilot can hop into an A340 simulator and get his rating with minimal effort.
Well Boeing also has points in that area. While Airbus a320 and a330 cockpits are similar, Boeing 757/67 cockpits are literally identical. Ad the 777x and 787 also have really similar cockpits. So its just a tit for tat situation with identical cockpits.
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As a real Boeing and Airbus pilot, I love Airbus more if we’re talking about comfort and user friendly interfaces. If I were to fly in an emergency, I prefer Boeing. When I grab the yoke of a Boeing, the plane does not argue with me, resist my input or “think about it.” I have never had to compete with a computer for control on a Boeing. Dont get me wrong, I love both aircraft.
True (unless you're flying a 737 Max 8)
well, the sully landing on the hudson was apparently really aided by the FBW
I mean technically you can't be a real airbus and boeing pilots since you can only be current on one type at only one time.
Azhal Halil yes you can, just not at the same time and you probably still need some more training. Fighter jet pilots sometimes become commercial pilots with a stick or yoke. Helicopter pilots can fly cessnas.
@@Ryan-eo1dw the way he said it didnt say it the way you said it, he said it like he was current on both types, i know what you mean
I really like Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, Embraer, if It's aviation I love it. Of all of them I personally prefer Boeing. And that's a really biased statement because my Grandfather worked for Boeing. If it weren't for that I would be pretty close to liking them both.
Michael Rodeback same here. My god father works for Boeing so I prefer it more than the others
Coming from a GA, military and flying the 737 commercially background, Ive experienced different philosophies. The F/A-18 and combat aircraft in general are much more “Airbussy” than you would think. More times than not, the computer is deploying your ordinance payload, your just driving the bomb bus. The 73 is just so uncomfortable for anything over 2 hrs. If my airline had opted to bring in baby buses, I’d have volunteered to fly them. My heart would always belong to Boeing, but their is a lot to be said for being able to walk upright. But I’m tall, a smaller person would probably be fine.
I like Boeing because I don't like being controlled! Also, my Dad retired from Boeing, my brother is a mechanic on Boeing planes, and I live in Renton, which is where 737's are made! I enjoy your videos. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! :)
In my opinion, the 'Boeing-Type' cockpit design and look is massively aesthetic.
I like them too :) But I do love the night lighting in the Airbus cockpit too though :)
I like the Airbus cockpit a lot because it seems like a more technologically advanced cockpit. But the Boeing cockpit looks more like a proper cockpit. A good mix of new and old.
@@michaelrodeback1956 ye it looks more advanced because it's full of plastic😂
I love the cockpit of 777. Brown cockpit is feels so warm and green lights around buttons are so aesthetic
Yeah, Airbus will never give a true airliner feel with their tiny little sidesticks. It's like trying to drive a car with a slider rather than a wheel.
In my opinion, Airbus cockpits look cooler (especially at night), they are clearly much more spacious and comfortable for pilots, I love the sidestick as it allows space for a traytable, I prefer the dark cockpit philosophy with pushbuttons, the ECAM is an excellent helpful tool, the displays look better, the autopilot system makes more sense (AP1 and AP2 instead of LNAV, VNAV, all the CMD options and the lack of the course knob making things simpler). In an emergency, I would also much rather be in an airbus - it tells you what is happening and literally gives you a lift of responses. And airbuses are more comforable for passengers in my opinion (in terms of a320 vs 737 and a380 vs 747).
Two comments on that: 1. both Boeings and Airbusses have dark cockpit philosophies, the only difference is that the 737 (and earlier, but not later models) has switches that you can feel the position of rather than buttons that you have no choice but to look at to see their position. 747, 757, 767, 777, and 787 all have pushbuttons. Though on a separate note, I personally much prefer the Boeing overheads, buttons or switches, because the scanflows are much smoother, thanks to the different systems on separate subpanels in straightforward columns.
2. AP1 and AP2 on Airbus correspond to Autopilot A and B on a 737, Autopilot Left, Center and Right on 747/757/767, and just A/P on 777/787, not the autopilot modes. The LNAV, VNAV, FLC, VOR/LOC, APP, etc. modes correspond to the different combinations of pushing in and pulling out the knobs on an airbus, and I find a single button press to get into the desired mode much easier than setting a certain combination. And as for the course knob, that's for using VORs/Localizers (hence the VOR/LOC button, and the APP button is the same as on airbus). I have no idea how you're supposed to use them without a course knob, as it's a huge part of using that kind of navaid. As for all the rest, well, an opinion's an opinion.
Cat Life Thanks for the reply - i didn't know much of that. It turns out that with Airbus you put the course into the MCDU (FMS).
I’m late, I know.
I started off in the A320. I love it to this day. But I see myself now switching to Boeing simply due to manual flying. I feel the Airbus is so much more choppy, and Boeing is smooth. I fly the 787 and learning the 777. I want to learn to fly the 737 but the cockpit just looks like they randomly stuck buttons with random switches everywhere 😂 I can’t chose between boeing and Airbus.
May I ask how you have the time to play and upload fortnite videos??
I started in the 737, and I love it! :)
EverettAviation i have studied the 737 now, and it’s the only aircraft i fly. i can now say boeing over airbus :)
I started off with the 737-800 with the demo version of x-plane11. But soon i tried other simulators and converted to airbus and started flying the A320. Now i am pretty experienced with the a320 and in my opinion, i think bowing cockpits are pretty messy, but airbus cockpits are layed out, like this area is the fire test, this area is the lights, fuel, etc. But still i think we all should learn how to fly new aircraft to make your brain good with capacity and learning.
Since I started with FS2004, I started on the 737-400. However, over time I found I loved the Airbus system… I’ve always been a techie person, and I truly appreciate the way Airbus’ systems work. However, I’ve been using Aerofly FS, they just came out with a 2022 version which now includes the Boeing 787. I’ve tried learning Boeing’s systems, and it’s definitely interesting; I’d say it’s easier to learn Boeing, then go to Airbus, rather than the other way around. Thanks for your awesome videos!
I too love Boeings...especially the old 247. When Western Airlines had their 50th anniversary here in Salt Lake City in 1977 I had the privilege of being part of the crowd who got to climb through it. Wonderful little beast.
Concerning reason 3: Besides Boeing recommending the use of A/T for landing, too, on some types (B777, B787), why don‘t you just disconnect the A/T? YOU are the pilot! My old company even has a manual flight, manual thrust policy, meaning that if you fly manually, thrust has to be controlled manually, too.
I have autothrottle disconnected on all manual landings too :)
I'll fly either, love PMDG, love Aerosoft, Personally I prefer the cockpit layout of Airbus, its more sleek and modern with buttons instead of knobs and switches of the older Boeing
I agree. Airbus cockpits are more clean and labelled well, while Boeing's a lot of mess in the cockpit.
The plane that really got me started in real flight simulation was X-Plane 11's default 737. I mastered it within a few weeks of getting the sim (for Christmas). Then I upgraded to the Zibo, and then I fell in love with the 737. It's my go-to aircraft if I want to fly (because I don't have any payware aircraft... yet) on VATSIM. I've always loved Boeing especially since I live next to Paine Field where Boeing's Everett Plant is, lol. Anyway, greetings from Everett! By the way, my first flight lesson was a couple months ago in a Cessna 152 in not-so-great typical, rainy, overcast Seattle weather with a ceiling of 1800 feet. :P
Congratulations on your first flight! Hopefully you have your license by now? (I used to fly Cessna 172s from Paine Field). 👨🏻✈️
My fave is boebus airing :D
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I like Boeing in general more, but I have really fallen in love with the A350 as of late. Airbus is incredibly subtle... At first you don't know if you're in autothrottle or if you're going to end up following the flight plan. You do get used to it and certain things I end up liking more, namely the autothrottle. You can put in input and override very easily. However Boeing is way more intuitive.
When you would much rather prefer to fly small turboprops......
*sees FMC*: excuse me wtf
I love flying the Dash-8 actually :)
Well, I personally love C208... just don’t have time and equipment for mainline planes.
I am the same way, I mainly fly the L049, then when I see an fmc..I'm just like...uhmmmm
That's me. If I'm flying an airliner, it's a DC-3. Otherwise it's something small and the closest thing I have to an FMC is just a GNS430.
I really enjoyed watching this video. Thank you, my friend for your continuing work for all of us who do truly enjoy being simmers of every aircraft. You make it much more approachable for us, which adds to our enjoyment. Please keep your smiling face near the camera, help us keep flying fun! Best Regards, E. Unohu
Thanks Bud! :)
I’m a student working on my CPL, I’ve flown c172 and pa28. I was a Boeing fan, but I have to say my training experience truly changed my feelings about airbus and its sidestick. Why the yoke is kind of annoying? 1. it’s always hitting your knees 2. Takes up a lot of space in front of you 3. You have to constant trim the airplane, otherwise the yoke will become very heavy to handle.
Another one is that you fly with one hand anyway.
Robert Gaylord true. I had to adjust my knee board the other day during a flare to give more space for the yoke to travel. And I have an examiner sitting next to me while I performed such a stunt.
Think about an emergency situation like this : you've got electric failure, twin engine flameout you will have no control without electricity and you are dead because of fly by wire side stick, you cannot even glide. Yokes are mechanically connected and will save your life.
@@shreethesmart2942 bullshit. See Boeing 777. Fly-by-wire!
@@shreethesmart2942 Even so, just because two engines fail, it doesn't mean the airbus is uncontrolable. It only is, if you play the aerosoft version.
The airbus control surfaces rely on hydraulics. The hydraulic pressure is etablished by electricity, like it is in any modern Boeing plane too (777, 787, 747-8, and I believe the 737NGX as well).
If both engines fail the electric pump keeps working now powered by the batteries (for the short time until the APU has started) and imediatly continues to provide hydraulic pressure to insure the controlability of the plane.
Another common myth is that you have to compete against the airbus' flight computers.
BS, they only prevent the aircraft from doing dangerous maneuvers like e.g. too high bank angle, too high pitch angle or too high descend rate (just to name a few) and since you don't need any of these maneuvers in emergency situation (for emergency descend in case of sudden cabin depressurisation it, of course, does not deny a high sink rate), there is no need to fight them. Even if the flight computers fail you don't have to fight them in an epic "human vs robot" way, since you can simply turn them off by the means of three switches located on the overhead panel and can still fly the aircraft with litterally unrestricted control.
Same here... I started with the Dreamfleet 737, after that I went up to the LDS767 for years... and from that moment the PMDG737 and 747...
9,000 hours B767 and 1,000 hours B787. Both brilliant aircraft and as you suggest, they are pilots aeroplanes and fly in predictable and logical ways. The 787 is quite something with the application of fly by wire, it smooths out a lot of configuration and speed changes really well. The HUD is the massive leap forward from the 767 and I’m not sure if that is workable in flight sim.
Amazing video, I started with fsx, so I had already an Airbus as default along with the 737 and 747. Since I'm a Lufthansa fan and simulate their flights, I fly the short hauls with fslabs a320 and long haul with the pmdg 747 so I'm used to both and love them both.
Thanks! :)
A320 family all the time! Clean sleek and nice.
:)
@@AviationPro Partially because I started with it but I would love to get into boeing or at least try it out. Just going to save for a boeing plane. Any recommendations? I am personally thinking the 747
747 is really nice, can’t beat the Queen of the Skies ;)
I'm not taking any sides but Boeing is easy to fly than airbus, it's like driving a car (100000000000times harder to fly any plane compared to car I was kidding) airbus don't let you control fully by yourself.
You can ditch plane immediately to the ground in Boeing (bcoz no fbw system, mechanical connection) .
Think about an emergency situation like this : you've got electric failure, twin engine flameout you will have no control without electricity and you are dead because of fly by wire side stick, you cannot even glide. Yokes are mechanically connected and will save your life.
Airbus' first two airplanes the A300 and A310 had yokes which were mechanically connected to the control surfaces, but Boeings last two airplanes (777, 787) have yokes that are FBW. 🙂
Also, if both engines flame out, you still have the APU for electrical power (like Sully did when ditching in the Hudson), and if that fails the batteries will still operate the control surfaces, but in Direct Law, meaning without any computers operating to modify pilot inputs for flight envelope protection or even to provide the proper response or feel (like the MCAS provides on the Boeing 737 MAX). Flying in Direct Law mode can be like flying a totally different airplane with a totally different type rating, which pilots are typically not used to. It was the cause of the infamous Air Asia crash where the pilot decided to reboot the flight control computers in mid-flight to clear a fault message, and lost control while in Direct Law while the reboot was in progress.
I love to fly my Airbus 😍
I also prefer Boeing for many of the same reasons you do, but I am a bit older than you and remember my neighbors taking me to O'Hare Field to see America's first jetliner the 707. I was so impressed and couldn't believe how big it was compared to the prop liners of that era. The 707 is still my aircraft of choice in Flight Simulator, but I haven't found one yet for the latest version of 2020, so hopefully someone will come out with one. I just downloaded the latest version of FS 2020, and so far I have not even been able to taxi around the airport or even fly which is why I am watching a lot of videos about it on You Tube. I have been using Flight Simulator since their first version, and eventually I learned how to do scenery design since I wanted the airports I was flying to, to be realistic. I think it was FS 2004 where I created most of my scenery in, but after that my stuff no longer worked in later versions and I would have had to learn all new programs, so it just kind of fell by the wayside. In Flight Simulator X I bought a Mega Scenery of Southern California where I live now and flew mostly between Los Angeles and San Diego which was all very familiar territory for me, but then the game just kind of went by the wayside with Microsoft, so I tried X-Plane, but hated it, so I never used it. When I heard about FS 2020 I got very excited, so I'm finally getting back into it, but it is very different than previous versions, and I don't have my flight yolk set up yet so I am just kind of easing into it. Boeing also makes the best looking planes, and I was glad to see the MD-80's being retired since they were very ugly. Airbus with the 319 and 320 series are also ugly with their bulbous noses and more forward mounted wings. I also prefer a yolk rather than a joystick. Thanks for your video, I gave it a thumbs up.
Started with PDMG 737-800 (with hud👍). Its a great plane and I had a lot of fun, but still switched to Aerosoft A319 and some time ago to A320. Since I only have a flightstick and no flightyoke using Airbus feels more realistic to me.
Also for Airbus its not so importent to feel g-forces, which we cannot simulate with a simple desktop sim.
And for me the airbus workflow is more structured and logical. Even without checklist its difficult to forget something if you set up for a flight phase.
Btw Airbus A318, A319, A320, A321 and A330 all have the same layout except some minor systems depending on configuration choices by the airlines.
Actually you can fly the Bus same way Boeing by disconecting the autothrust and fly manually adjusting pitch and power.
But then if you do something wrong, it engages automatic thrust!!!
@@astroace4624 no mate😂, only when AOA protection engages
Just wanted to drop by and say thank you for your vatsim tutorials and advice as I am now really starting to enjoy flying on vatsim without feeling so anxious and sweaty! I have done about 5 or 6 flights now on the network in the 737-800 and have recently started to use voice as well to build up my confidence more! I might start learning some airbus aircraft soon as well!
Thanks, you’re welcome! :) Good luck!
Your #5 reason is not really valid, if you fly the a320, you’lls also be able to transition to the whole airbus family very fast because they all are the same philosophy and have even more similar workflows and layouts... (let’s take the a220 appart, but then boeing has also the 717 which is an MD)
It was more a reason to keep flying Boeing, because I know I simply don’t have the time to study Airbus in detail like I studied Boeing aircraft in the last years. Of course, when you fly Airbus it will be even more simple to switch to any other aircraft in that family, because they are even more similar than between the Boeings.
Great video! I too loved the fs9 level-d 767. I took many years off (got married, had kids) and now have purchased p3d v4 and enjoy the majestic dash 8 q400, a2a c172 with gtn750 and pmdg 737. Hoping one day the level-d 767 will be updated for p3d v4. I feel at home in the Boeing cockpit. Although when I got my PPL it was entirely in the diamond da20 which has a control stick. I wish there was good quality of a da20 or da40 available. Thanks for your video!
Thanks! I would love to see a new high-quality 767 some day...
Fair enough - I loved the Level D 767 too. Such a shame it’s not compatible with P3Dv4. All of the PMDG Boeing aircraft are a joy to fly. Of course not all flight simulation aircraft are created equal and I don’t think you can judge Airbus properly from the Aerosoft version (though it’s good visually and for frame rates).
I’ve fallen in love with the FSLabs A320. The immersion, realism and depth of system simulations is something else. I know I sound like a fanboy but the Air Traffic Service Unit (ATSU) features in the latest update, allowing you to request and receive pre departure clearance, order and check fuel via GSX and request performance calculations, have lifted it to another level. Yes, it’s very expensive but worth it in my opinion. Definitely my favourite aircraft in P3D. 🤔
Would love to see a proper 767 sometime for P3D :) I am not just making that comparison between PMDG and Aerosoft though, it’s also based on simulator experience in both. And even when I do, I keep in the back of my mind that their level of detail differ, yet I do believe that the Aerosoft provides a great sense of what an Airbus feels like, at least in basic operations flying from A to B.
All valid reasons. Boeing’s are awesome! Airbus man myself, specifically the A320 family, simply because I grew up flying in them (Monarch Airlines/easyJet), and ended up putting the professional Airbus A320 addons on my simulator first. Aerosoft. Still, it doesn’t stop me from trying out a Boeing every now and then. But we all know the flying is what counts, we can all fly whatever we like. Great video as always Evert. Max.
Thanks for watching Max! :)
I started with MSFS 98. So I too grew up with the Boeings. And Yes, I prefer them still. But I don’t think its all about the biased nature of growing up with those planes. I think you nailed it when you said “you feel more in control in a Boeing”
Absolutely! That’s it right there!
Started in the 737, switched to the A320 family and ended up in the Dash-8.
The Bombardier is just the best when it comes to manual flying
Nice!
You may want to get your hands on the Bombardier CSeries (Airbus A220), which combines moving throttles and fly-by-wire, Airbus-style soft limits, Boeing-style flight control laws mated to a sidestick (but no force-feedback). This ultimately feels and hand-flies as a traditional aircraft. Pilots may also appreciate the big wings and huge bypass turbofans which give this aircraft phenomenal short-field performance and climbs fast straight to cruise altitude (typically FL400/410).
I prefer Airbus more cause it’s more modern and has easier layout that’s simpler and less complex
I am Boeing fan too. The 7xx's are all very similar to fly. My real challenge is flying the PMDG MD-11. Totally different bird from FMC to FCP to handling!
Lol my Friend also had some trouble after takeoff
I agree Boeing as several points ahead of Airbus to my view.
The logical design and the behaviour of the MCP , the FMC , the throttle give me a better sense of control and is more comprehensive , especially in emergency situation.
The fly by wire of Airbus May be confusing as you don't see what the pilot flying is doing ....remember Air France Rio Paris !
It's my personal opinion ...
So my journey in flightsims startet in FSX i loved flying the pmdg 737 and also grew up with the Boeing 747 in FSX. Now in xp11 i still prefer Boeing over other planes and i couldnt explain it better. I remember my first time trying the A320 in xp11. In some points i was shocked. My freind who flies Airbus all the time explained everything to me and while programming the route in the MCDU I asked him where to put all the little information for the fuel and vspeeds and stuff and i remembered him saying: You dont have to do anything the computer does it for you.
My reasons for flying Airbus are pretty much identical. My first payware was Aerosoft A320 for FSX and that is aircraft I learned how to fly airliners and different procedures (IFR, VOR, ILS, SID and STAR etc). I do love how Airbus cockpit looks and I like how basically every Aibrus from A319 all the way up to A380 have same look and things are about the same. I only recently got into Boeing when Zibo made famous free add on for X-Plane 11. I do like to fly it every now and then and I do see charm of 737 but I still feel more home in cockpit of A320.
I also think one reason is what type of aircraft your "home airline" uses. As you live in Netherlands I bet KLM has to be close to your heart and they mainly use Boeing. I live in Finland so Finnair is very close to my heart and their fleet is almost entirely Airbus.
Both manufacturers have their pros and cons and after all we are flying on same sky because we are passionate about flying!
That is indeed another good reason! :)
Hi Aviation Pro, you are absolutely correct, i believe same since last 4 yrs i'm only flying Boeing B737 in xplane & P3D personally to me Airbus is less complex than boeing and Airbus cockpit looks more plastic where as an example B737 cockpit looks more metallic design all the button and Nobs, challenging to fly where Airbus is fly by wire quit easy to fly auto pilot do more stuff then boeing, i'm a serious flight simmers so i don't change aircraft often, i prefer to learn about 1 particular aircraft more and more... and i will fly many more years with B737-800
Thanks for your comment! :)
I Agree I prefer Boeing to say Airbus, for practical reasons,you can manually fly a boeing in the event of a engine loss for example say a Bird strikewhere as a air bus would just fall out of the sky as everything is computer controled , ie meaning you cant manually fly or even do a forced landing, it has no manual control if it came to it a airbus would just crash end of story.
Boeing fan here but I have yet to fly an airbus, I'm still learning. I really enjoy the flow of the panels in Boeing. The 777 F is my favourite to do long haul on vatsim. Learnt on the 738 and the move to the 777 felt natural. Since the Zibo mod is free, i got hooked on Boeing. Got to hand it to him, it's an amazing plane for free. Anyway I don't think it would feel right to fly an airbus with my Saitek yolk, and I don't want to go back to just a flight stick :D
Yeah, flying Airbus with a yoke is a no-no :)
Reason #5 has the biggest point in my opinion. Not only does this apply to understanding systems, having flown a Boeing in the beginning (after flight training obviously) also includes withstanding higher workload than in the airbus. In my former airline, when the last 737s were taken out of service, as a former Boeing F/O it was possible to become a captain WHILE achieving the airbus type rating. This would not have been possible the other way round. An A320-F/O would not have been allowed to switch to the 737 and getting CAPT-upgraded at the same time. :)
Saved best for last ;). That's indeed interesting! That's why many airlines also only allow you to fly one or two particular aircraft types, even though you would be able to get multiple type ratings I guess, to prevent confusion in the operation of the aircraft :)
That‘s correct. There are basically three things that have to be (almost) identical from type to type in order to allow multiple type ratings: systems, cockpit layout and (VERY important) memory items in operation.
Personally, I‘m a fan of Boeing as well. I didn’t like having to switch to the airbus at first. Now, I have to admit that I clearly see the advantages. Workload decreased insanely and tbh: I love the table in the cockpit. That’s kind of a deal maker. ;) Nevertheless I‘d also love to fly a Boeing again. But these days, european pilot market won‘t always allow you to freely choose the plane you fly. It‘s rather a matter of employment or unemployment. But we‘ll see what the future brings.
i started with airbus and i've always been a fan of airbus. December 2020 i bought the pmdg and it was allot different than the a320, i never took the time to learn it so i didnt fly it much. Ofc now i know how to fly it but im still a fan of airbus but the 737 is still fun to fly
Hi aviationpro, hope you read this. I have a question for a next video. Can you maybe make a video where you tell us how you get so much atc coverage on vatsim? And maybe you can make a list of most popular frequencies where it’s atc coverage almost every time? Thank you.
Already covered topics like that in my VATSIM 2017 Tutorial Series. Look for events on the VATSIM website, and simply fly during the evening (local time) and in weekends, that will be your best bet at having ATC.
I first started with the A320 and I am now learning the 787
4:44 You flew to LHBP - Budapest :D Hello from Hungary :)
Howdy!
Yeh. Given the choice between Boeing and Airbus, I'll take Boeing.
There's one main reason: My first really high-end aircraft I bought was the PMDG737. Shortly after that I bought their 777. From then on I just never got on with the Airbuses. The Boeings always just felt like the default to me. The benchmark from which all others must compare.
I realise in actually what I'm doing is comparing Airbus sims to the PMDG ones, which is a very different thing and frankly slightly unfair given the latter's sheer quality, but this attitude is do ingrained now that I feel even if I were a professional pilot, had I the chance to experience both I would definitely enjoy the Boeings more. Much more.
Thanks for watching! :)
The fact that a modern sim can reflect such intricate differences between aircraft types, to the point of a normal human preference for the overall ambience of everyday usage appearing, just like with pilots and planes irl, speaks quite alot about their quality.
Absolutely! True flying will always remain different, but having accurate systems gives you a good sense of what the different types are like to fly and to operate.
I love your youtube channel and simulator videos!!!😍😍😍👌🏻👌🏻
Thanks!
i personally like airbus and how the plane follows the nav arc perfectly
what I really don't like about the airbus is that you don't have the turn vector shown on the ND like the Boeings have it. So if you fly manually with the Airbus, it's not so easy to fly turns.
@@Treadstone7 true
@@Treadstone7 also with another positive with airbus is that there is a digital check list on the ecam screen and turns green when each item is done on the check list and if the engine is on fire there will be a procedure check list to follow to solve the fire problem on the ecam page. ect.
@@AV8R98 yeah but only the before takeoff and landing checklist... non-normal checklist ist also there but Airbus doesn't have the other ones like preflight, before startup and so on.
@@Treadstone7 do you play X-plane 11?
Yeah automatic trust suck but i love the airbus cockpit!
If the airbus as the Boeing throttle that would be nice
I like both (Boeing and Airbus) . But as a simmer, I prefer Boeing. As a passenger, I prefer Airbus.
I haven't flown enough Airbusses as a passenger to say anything about that unfortunately haha :)
@@AviationPro I agree with Captain Eren on this. I have flown both aircarfts as a passenger and i keep doing it - I live in Portugal but i am Working on belgium so i am used to be a passenger at least 2 times per month (when i go back to Portugal and then come back to belgium). For a passenger, airbus feels much more stable, confortable and safe then boeing. Even the landings comparing 737 with the a320, in the boeing 737 all the landings seems more hard then with the a320. Guess it has something to do with the hight of the plane since boeing 737 is not as high as the a320. The 737 was designed to land in every airport without the need of equipments for the passengers to leave the aircraft (737 even has a proper set of stairs within the aircraft at the front door which they use a lot of times).
Yeah, as an aviation enthusiast I will choose Boeing over Airbus without a doubt, but when it comes to passenger comfort, Airbus does take the lead in that.
I always thank you verymuch i prefer same what you like BOEING #1
For me personally ... it's because when it comes to flightsims (especially P3D) it's mostly Boeing jets that have the high-fidelity, close-to-real packs (e.g. PMDG with its 737, 747, and 777)
It's not wrong to love both airbus and boeing, right? Why not love both?
Absolutely! That's why the title only reads 'prefer'! ;)
Reason 4 is a reason to prefer Airbus if you ask me. The cockpits in almost all of their aircraft are nearly identical, and certainly much more similar than the 737 and 777.
I usually don't have a lot of trouble switching between Boeings, but I can see that the Airbusses are more similar :)
Boeing also has identical cockpits. The 757 and 67 being literally identical. And the soon to be 777 and 787 will have nearly identical cockpits.
Thank you I have learned so much from you flying the PMDG 737 on FSX. I have been learning the A320 FBW on MSFS because there is no real Boeing but it is taking too long to get realistic. I have started leaning more toward Airbus because it is the way things will go even for Boeing--look at the 777! I have decided to get Prepar3D and the FS Labs A320 and learn to fly the thing properly. I think the future is MSFS, the graphics are superb but I am impatient--it's taking too long for study level aircraft to appear! I still like taking the Cessna 172 for a spin every now and again to keep my manual skills going!
If u know to operate even one boeing aircraft, Then u dint need a manual to operate another boeing a/c . I became familiar with the 777 and 747 without using a manual just bcoz i knew to fly NGX!
Same I love Boeing aircrafts and I’m a masssive massive fan of KLM
1. Yoke
2. Autopilot
3. Cockpits
4. How it flies
5. How it looks
As I said many types, I like AIrbus more, because the cocpit is more clean and more futuristic... yeah, I flew Airbuski (SSJ100LR), so I'm biased. And I'm trying to get a job in Air Baltics on D8H or A220...
But in the end, job is job, and if I will end with Ryanair and B738, then I will fly B738 :D
True, in the end flying is flying, whatever aircraft :D
I fly 737,787 and airbus a320 but honestly I feel comfortable with 737 but one thing I live about airbus is not to set my ils frequencies lol
for #5 I think its a tie between boeing and airbus
I love how there is 320 comments just like a320
Awesome video .
Even I love Boeing
Thanks!
My situation is extremely weird with boeing and airbus, i remember once i was loving my ZIBO 737 so much i flew it for 50 times in a row.... and then i once decided to get back on my FF A320 and from the first flight i flew in lovw with it and completely forgot the 737 even existed, i flew that it for 50 times in a row, my mind just snapped like that and everytime this happends, now im back at boeing, and i dont even think about the a320 anymore, it just keeps going
Never hurts to fly them both whenever you fancy it :)
Meanwhile im here flying the Q400 which has way less automation the Boeing and Airbus :)
I actually love that, you feel more like a pilot flying that plane :)
I fly PMDG 737.800 and Aerosoft A320 for VeeBird VA and a PMDG 77L voor FedEx VA .
Nice!
am i the only one wondering why he has a before taxi checklist on the eicas while already in the air? 0:24
I love Boeing too for many of the same reasons, though I think you got cockpit layout a bit backwards....I enjoy them because philosophies might be similar, but you know which plane you are flying and the experiences are unique. The 737, MAX, 777, 787 are uniquely distinct and different.With Airbus, it not only looks bland but sitting there you can’t tell if you’re in an A319 or A330! Not much love for that. That being said...Airbus and Embraer cockpit philosophies are superior and easier to learn. I own the Majestic Q400, and I always have difficulty relearning it. Meanwhile, I haven’t touched an airbus since the old PSS days and I could easily jump back into it today if I wanted to without reading the manual.
Thanks for your comment!
LevelD 76, wish they were still around and that they’d finished the 75. I don’t think a more stable addon has been made since. (And I’m an Airbus guy too 😉)
I'm also just a flight simmer (but flying on Airbus only) but for me landing on autothrust is something really weird and I always disconnect it. But as far as I know in real world it's not true that most landings on Airbus are done with ATHR.
Not sure about that, in most cockpit videos I see them using autothrust to be honest
Flying with autothrust on is contradictionary what your learned during your flying lessons. Stick is speed and thrust is altitude.
BOEING BABY!!!!!
Ok nice video
Airbus vs Boeing fanboys = Real Madrid vs Barcelona fanboys,.... me a fan of both cause why not,.
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Don't forget the two (2) unforgettable B737-MAX's crashes. That took many lives.. this is the plane maker haywire computer system.. so no certification available for b737-7 max and b737-10max... Boeing don't also believe there's mistake on MCAS faulty system..
I Prefer Boeing to and basically for the Same reason. First i like the looks of the Aircraft and the flight Deck more on Boring and i just love to have a Yoke in front of me. And Second I started the flying and learning the Study-Level Aircraft with the PMDG 777 and 737 so I'm just love them. Another Reason is that i love Study-Level aircraft as i want to have the most realistic experience and the learn the different systems and share the process. But these Aircraft are understandably expensive and you can fly only one Aircraft at the time. So in my case I have the PMDG 737 / 747 / 777 and the A2A Comanche and C172 and with the Limited time i can't fly them all so its usually the 737 or Comanche (I Absolutely love those Planes) so adding Airbus into the virtual hangar wouldn't make sense as i would probably not fly them so often that it would worth the investment.
This manual thing refers to the PMDG a/c
I also flew fs2004 and flew There with boeing. But after a long time i got me p3d and got me a airbus and i loved it but now i also want to fly with boeing accept of 737-800max
Personally I cannot stand Boeing cockpits because they are switches rather than buttons that light up😂
You mean you don't like that you can feel the position of the switch as well as look at the light next to it? Don't worry, only the 737 has both switches that you can feel and are satisfying to use, and lights that tell you if anything's wrong. The rest are your average "if you don't look at it you have no idea what position it's in" buttons.
If you ask airbus pilots on twitch you’ll see they disconnect autothrust when then take manual control on landing, this way they anticipate their need for thrust.
Ask airbus pilots in reality why they do same thing.
Ivo Brick my las sentence says it. More control by anticipating.
Let's avoid being fanboy and love planes no matter what
Hi, a question, i am pretty sure you know about those cabin sound files for FSLABS Airbus. those are triggered by specific events like boarding. Push Back etc. Is there anything similar available for the PMDG World? I am looking forward to your answers. Btw, i know FS2Crew has something like that, but with FSLABS you have soundpacks for all carriers, like Eurowings, Jetblue etc.... You got my point?
PMDG doesn't have that, so probably need to get it through FS2Crew indeed :)
i m just 14 but i know to operate these jetliners well so from Whatever bad has happened to me i m telling this
the whole point of simming is to get a feeling of flying of course, and the feeling is already limited by being in a computer, so you feel the need to immerse more and thats what Boeing can give you compared to Airbus, Boeing is more complex, even the feeling of flicking switches and the amount of pilot input is more demanding, Airbus philosophy is to make the plane simpler and easier to fly and I personally need a challenge to keep me interested in flying sims :)
Try the Dash-8, you need to flick even more switches haha :)
@@AviationPro so i've heard, I'll give it a try :D
My favourite aircraft trpe is a microlight
Also nice :)
I agree with you. I have mentioned it a few times in my UA-cam channel
Thanks for watching!
In my opinion I think the vast majority prefers Boeing because Airbus looks more complicated... But it's not lol. It's just different.
I was forced to fly the b737 because I can't afford an airbus in xplane :(
Me too:(
Sir can you help the new people to configure and build their idle PC for p3d latest versions and for various payware add-ons step by step tutorial guide as on all UA-cam channels there is no support and guide for the new people who wish to built their flight simulation PC same like yours think u blessings
It’s a your type rating
Easy to understand cockpit layout despite the airbus looks much simpler
That's right, but I personally still prefer Boeing 😆
My first add on aircraft was the aerosoft a320
Awesome!
Mine tooo
My favorite aircraft is a Boeing 737-800/900
When I do my standard 40 mins flights on Boeing, I always have something to do. When Im on Airbus, I usually just stare. I know it is for safety readons but for a flight simmer it is a little boring
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Yeah, Airbus is the kind of airplane you just stare and let the airplane do the things, from takeoff to landing all is done automatically. What you have to do is enter the flight plan. But sometimes, I try to fly manually .
Airbus is boring for me. I'm really used to 737 and 777.
Nice job
Thanks!
love your sim vids sir .
Thanks!
I used to be Boeing lover but I changed my mind and love Airbus now.
PS: your #5 you said if you fly 737 you can fly 747,767,787. Well 747 and so on, is way different than 737. In real life you need 2-3 months of training while Airbus 320 has almost the same cockpit as A330 and you need just a week to get type rating. So this one is better on an Airbus.
I was of course refering to flightsim only, but yes it does indeed take quite a bit of training to update! :) However, I'm sure all Boeings look and feel familiar in some, and the same in Airbus, but perhaps the A320 and A330 even more so. Looking forward to try the Aerosoft A330 once it's out.
@@AviationPro Having identical cockpits across all aircraft is one of Airbus USPs. If you look at the A320 vs. A330 cockpit, there's almost no difference. That is so it's cheaper and quicker for airlines to retrain their pilots for a new rating. An A318 pilot can hop into an A340 simulator and get his rating with minimal effort.
Well Boeing also has points in that area. While Airbus a320 and a330 cockpits are similar, Boeing 757/67 cockpits are literally identical. Ad the 777x and 787 also have really similar cockpits. So its just a tit for tat situation with identical cockpits.