The Greatest Winner That NO ONE Talks About: John Havlicek
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- A look at the talent, career and legacy of the great John "Hondo" Havlicek.
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Is there any player more underrated than John Havlicek?
CWebb,& KG who is top 15 all time
Maybe Sam Jones. It’s a short list
you should do a video on if a team will ever win the nba championship as 7th or 8th seed and there are a ton of underrated players
@jonnyarnett, I would like to see a video series of "Who would/should have won NBA Awards each year before they existed" to help get a sense of the honors the early stars might have received. Finals MVP, Defensive Player of the year, etc...
also i never heard of this guy. he was solid though
John Havlicek AKA hondo in my opinion I have him as the 3rd greatest Celtic of all time behind Bird and Russell. My 6th small forward of all time also
I have him third too
As I do Russell Bird Hondo in that order.
Where do you rank Cousy?
@@little_old_grannydoc Bob cousy I have him as my 6th Boston Celtic of all time
@@little_old_grannydoc Me personally, I would have him fourth ahead of guys like Pierce and Dave Cowens
my favorite player as a kid. almost never stopped running, turned the games into track meets.
Heard somewhere that a full xray of his lungs wouldn't fit on one plate...
I’ve been preaching about Havi.
Same I tried to tell people he ranks above Pippen and Kawhi all time but MFs just call him a plumber
@@mattmmixes Agreed! I’ve got Hondo as my #4 SF, while Kawhi and Pippen are #7 and #8, respectively. 👍
@@brettreynolds1976 I’d have LBJ, Bird, and Dr J ahead of him. You can argue Elgin Baylor, but I’ll take 8 rings over 1.
That seems fair, though I’d include KD in that mix, too. 👍
lmao why preach a role player
Hondo was one of the best ballers to ever laced up. Underrated is the truth, he was a team player, unselfish. R I P Brother
He was great. Thanks for reminding us how great he was. 8 and 0
Give him his flowers ☘️
I was waiting for your comment lol.
@@zoeledwards6617You already know! ☘️☘️☘️
Bill Russell. Smartest, most capable, greatest leader, greatest all-around player, and greatest professional sports winner of all time. 11 NBA Championships in 13 years. Two NCAA Championships. An Olympic Gold Medal. Mike had six...not even close. Bill Russell is THE GOAT.
Agree with most. of your comment. GOAT is hard for me see 3-4 guys at top depending on criteria. Was told that because I cited rings as the case for Russ then I could not mention Wilt as. a contender for GOAT! But Wilts lack of rings. DIRECT LY result of going head to head with Bill. bolstering arguments for Russ !
He left out the most “GIFTED” athlete (in talent and intelligence) to ever play the game and (Mr. Russell said so openly, they were friends. There is no more competitive a game , than against you GOOD FRIEND) .Bill Russell , see how many players that have (5)five or mores championships playing with him .
Stats are all that are tangible. Therefore, Jordan doesn't rank among either Celtic. The truth is Babe Ruth hit the long ball, when no one was. Jordan marketed a diluted NBA, when no one was. But Russell and Hondo dominated and the stats show real numbers for anyone who romanticizes old basketball. Jordan would place third on rings, fourth behind Horry.
None, including Jordan's Bulls, would compete today though. None.
Don’t disagree that Russ is underrated Love Hondo. Love Bird even more but do not worship stats. Film exists and eyewitness accounts Analytics is a great tool but good old human instinct and intelligence are indispensable Not a fan of GOAT CONVERSATIONS. ESPECIALLY WHEN CRITERIA ARE NOT CLEAR. DONT know why you have such a low opinion of Bulls. What do you think Hondo would do if trapped by Mike and Scotty?? Good. chance either one could really make things rough for Hondo . Knicks and Cavs during Jordans run were not weak teams. Early 70s Knicks. Could compete with any Celtic team or any one else for that matter
He deserves more respect 🫡 💯💯💯💯I give him his flowers
Growing up in LA I was obviously a Laker fan. I idolized Jerry West. But I don’t think there has ever been an athlete in any sport I admired and enjoyed watching more than Havlicek!
Underrated player of all time
That means everyone else is over rated ahead of him.
"Another plumber"-Basketball genius JJ Reddick
Oh yeah, 1 out of how many players? Try naming role players and saying that.
@@younglove3362Do you seriously think anyone will remember roll players from today in 50 years?
@@younglove3362you can’t even name the role players that y’all call plumbers to begin with.
@TheIcemanthomas
You're right, I can't. But I do know that Bill Russell was ahead of his time knowing that he needed those plumbers to win as opposed to trying to carry the load himself, something that took Jordan 7yrs to understand after being coached by Phil Jackson. Something you common folk noobs tend to overlook and is the reason y'all thinking you sound logical but are just flat out dumb. The same way y'all assume a player carries a team and wins it all while neglecting the role players. So yeah, I'm well aware of them, or at least more than you are.
@sayrebonifield4663
Yep, the only ones that'll forget are the casuals that are too lazy to do research and that's the primary reason y'all sound noobish while dismissing eras. Lazy excuses like "do you think anyone will remember" will always make you a casual.
One of my favorite players of league history. One of the great small forwards. One of the greatest celtics 🙌
Amen
Havlicek is one of the greatest small forwards of all time. He was a CLUTCH scorer, played great defense, smart, consistent, dependable, and so tireless that he ran opponents into the ground (his lungs were so big that one had to take two X-rays to see his entire lungs- also called "Poetry in motion"). A model person and player.
My father was a Celtic fan his entire life. He would always tell me about Hondo. One of the best to ever play the game!
I can already tell your dad don't like black people
He's only underrated to people who never watched him play. I started watching at 10 years old in 1971.
Hondo is not only underrated in a basketball sense, he’s underrated as an overall athlete. he’s right up there with Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, and Danny Ainge as the best overall athletes. you know guys played atleast COLLEGIATELY in another sport.
and if yall want to know more about this man athletic ability i suggest yall read. and when i mean read, i mean do your research. this mofo was the real deal.
Hondo should be in everyone’s top 20 but he rarely is.
He should be heavily considered for the top 10.
You mean like the # 1 multi sport talent of all time…… Danny Ainge ?
@@alanaldpal950 do you know before playing in the NBA, Ainge played in the MLB? did you know that Ainge is the only ATHLETE EVER to be named an high school All American in football, basketball, and baseball. he is a better athlete than y’all give him credit for.
@@markjackson6431 yes I did know that, which is the point of my comment.
Woody Hayes wanted Havilcek to play QB for him. Jerry Lucas was probably the Greatest Big Ten Basketball player ever, but Havilcek turned it out in the NBA.
Gets me piss that people hate on the 70s and 80s these days 😒 imagine working your whole life just for some people to call you a plumber 😪 john is so underrated. He would dominate in todays era, no doubt, LLJH 🕊
I mean yall do the same to the 10s and 20s
@@rapperbucks3203
Nobody disrespects this era. They usually call it what it is. It gets hyped as the most talented that the league has ever been but even that's a lie. Stats are inflated. The NBA'S rules changes have allowed for more scoring, very little defense & no physicality #FACTS
@@rapperbucks3203 yall* I don't disrespect eras 🤦♂️
Most underrated player in history thanks for making this!
For reel tho, why does nobody talk about him? 8 is crazy
The 3 obvious reasons:
Bill Russell's 11 rings
The 60s and early are mostly ignored
Jordan was the #1 for all 6
Regardless of how (un)fair, it is what it is.
6 of those were with Russell, and most everybody considers every 50s-60s Celtics ring to belong solely to Russell. In spite of him playing on a team composed of all-time greats, like Havlicek, and in spite of Havlicek being the leader of the Celtics for two more rings, and they never lost a final series with him.
@@Noin007 exactly bill
Because he wasn't the captain for 6 of his 8 rings. That's the main reason..
Bcoz there was no ESPN back then lol
Bill Russell. "John Havlicek doesn't know he can get tired." Was recruited by Woody Hayes to play football, told Woody he was going to play hoops, Woody immediately starts recruiting him for Fred Taylor. After graduation actually got a tryout with the Browns. Played baseball on the OSU freshman team. Notoriously tight with his money, sank every penny he could into a local burger company for his last 9 seasons, that company became Wendy's and Hondo became a rich man. When the Royals left I was without a team, but Havlicek was the most prominent Buckeye in the NBA and I joined a long list of Celtics fans in southern Ohio. RIP
One of the greatest of all time. I'm 72 and I've been a Celtic fan all my life. Hondo was such a joy to watch. You always knew the C's were in the game as long as Hondo was playing. And he was nonstop. Offense... defense... rebounding...THE MAN did it all with class !!
Literally the most underrated player ever! Good looks
I think he is most underrated out of players who won titles but Elgin Baylor is nba most underrated great player
@@mikegillins4992Elgin was a professional loser. Never won a chip, and when he was in position to do so, he left 12 games into the season lol.
@@a-a-rondavis9438 Elgin Baylor is one of the greatest scoring and rebounding forwards ever, was a main stay on the all nba and all star teams during the sixties
I wouldn't consider him a loser for never winning a title however and in 59 playoffs he carried Minneapolis lakers to finals with very little help!!!
@a-a-rondavis9438 Forget about his losing finals record. He was up there with Wilt as the top 2 players of the sixties. Definitely in the vein of dominant players like Jordan and LBJ.
@@Epupify he can ask doctor j, Kareem and Barry what they thought about Baylor...all three were inspired by Baylor and his 61 points scored was highest in playoffs for 24 years!!!
Hey Jonny Love the channel. The UA-camrs talk about him but people on TV don't.🏀🏀🏀🏀
So many people have checked out of mainstream sports channels for this reason. It's like only a handful of players exist in their eyes, and everyone else gets ignored.
@@jonnyarnett Chris Mad Dog Russo doesn't forget Hondo
When would the TV pundits have time? They have to talk about current shit
!976, the summer after graduating from 6th grade and I sat down to watch my first Celtics Game. Triple overtime playoff game vs Phoenix that John Havlicek won on an off balanced jumper. Needless to say I was hooked!! Even remember I had walked down to the local market and bought some grapes and sat down to watch some T.V and this game was on. Amazing!
Thank you so much for this, Jonny! I was born in '62, and Hondo is my favorite player of all time. For me, he is easily number three behind Russell and Bird in the ranking of Celtics greats. After Havlicek at #3 it gets really hard to rank them. Regarding being underrated, I would say fellow Celtics Sam Jones and Dave Cowens join Hondo as being among the most underrated players of all time.
I think Dave Cowens is up there. Probably only Pierce and Jason Tatum may be taking his spot right behind the top 3 greats. And forget about Garnett, he was not better than Cowens. Not sure about Sam Jones, how better was he than other of his teammates like KC, Heinssohn or Sharman?
@@Epupify Sam was the reason they kept winning. Sam was the greatest clutch shooter of all-time & it's not close. He won 9 titles as a major contributor (top 6 in MPG) & along with Jordan they are the only back court players to lead a championship team's top 6 players in MPG in both FG% & PPG & they each did it 3 times. Sam was also a great all-around player. I saw them all play for the last 65 years. The top 3 Celtics greats includes Sam Jones.
A 13-time NBA All-Star, Havlicek was named to the All-NBA First Team four times and to the All-NBA Second Team four times. He was also named to the NBA All-Defensive First Team on five occasions and to the NBA All-Defensive Second Team three times. Havlicek is known for his stamina and his hustle as well as his abilities. “Johnny Hustle,”’was a coaches dream, a nightmare for any defender and rarely did one guy guard him throughout a game.
In his final game in 1978, CBS cut the broadcast short with about 2 minutes left to go. After the cameras were turned off, Havlicek went 4-4 for 8 points, and had an assist to Ernie Digregorio, also playing in his final NBA game. Nobody saw it except for the fans in attendance.
It's fantastic that John Havlicek won 8 Championships. He played in a league that only had 8-10 teams at that time. But still, 8 is great! This is amazing and just because there's a lot more teams in the current NBA, no one can take those Championships away from Havlicek
His 68 win 72-73 team most wins in Celtics history, not Russel's, Bird's or the Big 3's. Avg 29 ppg 9 rpg 7.5 apg in 70-71.
Such a freakish athlete the CLEVELAND BROWNS convinced him to play WR a preseason and they said they've never seen such raw ability at WR, with the only Brown faster was HOF RB Jim Brown, and it was close. It was so apparent his muscular athleticism and length would transfer to WR Ohio State's football team kept a locker open with his jersey hanging all 4 years even though he said he wouldn't play.
Harvard did studies on his inhuman endurance (had a rare low heart rate) because he could go 100% full charge all game like a prime Russel Westbrook. No wonder he was best wing defender for a decade.
In epic SF GOAT matchup at age 36 held 26 yr old Dr. J in Game 7 ECSF to 14 pts on 6-19 shooting. Dr J bested him in ppg in series at 23.7 to Hondo's 19.9, which isn't bad against one of the most athletic players ever in his prime. His exceptional speed and ranginess were still apparent in the highlights. #16 on my list
Erving says Havlichek was the toughest defender he ever faced.
Nice comment!
Paul Silas and Don Nelson were better players on that team. Just check Win Shares per 48 minutes.
J.H. began the era of 'The most valuable 6th man in Basketball' which the NBA honors every year now...
One of the Greatest people and athelets period l think he passed the torch to Larry Legend and yes GOAT DEBATES HE IS NEVER MENTIONED BUT THIS MAN GAVE THE LEAGUE THE BUSINESS ALL AROUND GAME WAS MAGNIFICIENT
Watching HIM TOOK MY BREATH AWAY…ABSOLUTELY STUNNING PLAYER …I BECAME A CELTIC FAN BECAUSE OF HIM.DR.BRYANT LANE.
GROWING UP IN THE 60s AND 70s MY FAVORITE 2 PLAYERS WERE YASTRZEMSKI AND HAVLICEK, "YAZ AND HONDO", man, those were the dayz...
How white of you. Silas was better.
I'm with you but I added Bobby Orr to the 70s favorite Boston big 3 sports players (Patriots were not in this discussion at that time).
One of my favorite players ever....great on both ends with incredible stamina, Celtic fan. Russell and Hondo played every minute of 69 finals, legends
Finally some love for Celtics legend Hondo ☺️ 8-0
Hondo is definitely without a doubt the most overlooked Celtics player of all-time, hell he’s one of the most overlooked players in NBA history.
Mr. Hustle. One of the greatest players of all time. Loved watching him play
He was a winner….. never stopped moving on the court!
Give him the respect he deserves.he was a hell of a guy also
I remember, as a kid, collecting NBA cards. John's card was my most valued.
He’s always been three for me, four if you include Red. Red, Russell, Bird, Hondo.
Hondo, when I was a kid, I pretended to be him, and I wore his number for years playing sports... very underrated.... RIP Hondo...
My dad graduated at Bridgeport HS in Ohio in 1957, 1 year ahead of John. He said John was an outstanding athlete and was equally effective at football and baseball. But no one could have imagined what he would end up accomplishing on the hardwood.
He's right up there with the Greatest!
Havlicek was a boyhood friend of Baseball Hall of Famer Phil Niekro.
- "'On stamina alone, he’d be among the top players who ever played the game,' longtime New York Knicks coach Red Holzman once said of John “Hondo” Havlicek. "'It would’ve been fair to those who had to play him or those who had to coach against him if he had been blessed only with his inhuman endurance. God had to compound it by making him a good scorer, smart ballhandler and intelligent defensive player with quickness of mind, hands and feet'"
Amazing video Jonny I just learned something I didn’t know
In 5th grade, 60 years ago, I made a leather bookmark with the name HONDO on it. Loved John.
Excellent video! May Hondo rest in peace. I had the privilege of watching him play in the 70s. He was a great player and champion. I am sick of hearing from NBA media and internet talking heads that MJ is the GOAT. They have never seen Hondo play. He was clutch! As a die-hard Celtic from Boston. My all five Celtic team in order would be: Bill Russell C 1, Hondo SG 2, Larry Bird PF 3, Bob Cousey PG 4, and Paul Pierce SF 5, and McHale as the 6th man. Hondo played SG and SF. He played with such class and heart!
I realize you listed 5 starting Celtics with a 6th man. But to fill out your roster, Dave Cowens, Robert Parish, and Dennis Johnson would be strong additions to that list.
@@sirreal1290 Excellent comment. There were so many great Celtics! I was so blessed to have grown up in Boston in the 60s and 70s😊
Great video, huge fan and glad to see one of the legends of the game get the recognition he deserves!
My favorite Celtic player growing up.
The best 6 th man in the entire NBA I was a fan of John he never got the respect he deserved 👍👍👍
Excellent point regarding the "early" years of the NBA (and the NHL & NFL and to some extent, MLB) not having the modern stats recorded or recorded properly, not to mention all of the current awards. It's like we'll never know how many sacks Deacon Jones actually had (vs what he claimed.) Nice video on a completely underrated basketball superstar.
He was one of the best ALLTIME 🏀❤️😎
I loved watching Hondo as a kid.
A great sixth man the Celtics and the NBA! Watched him play with some of the greatest players ever!
What john Havlicek was best known for was perpetually being in motion. Always moving without the ball, which placed him in position for shots, rebounds, steals, etc.
VERY well done Jonny!! Thank you!
Thank you for this video. As a kid I saw Havilicheck at the old Boston Garden make plays that were amazing. Yes the league wasn't like today. But he was sure better than Larry Bird. 8 championships. 😊
Awesome video, Jonny! I knew a little about Havlicek before (including his famous steal and a bit of info about how he was a great player), but I've been wanting to learn more. Your video taught me much more about him. I am also inspired by your video to read up more about him (especially since he also has a reputation of being a good and selfless person) and watch more videos about him.
Great work again! 😊 I hope you have a nice weekend! God bless.
Johnny finally preaching about his era
"HONDO" HAVLICEK was the greatest sixth man. The energy & intelligence he brought to the game.
This is one of my favorite videos you've done as I did not know he was that prolific even though I knew he was good he really had an impressive career and very few people can equal what he's done
I was at a 1968 game in the Gawden. My 8th grade team played in an invitational against the best Boston CYO team. They slaughtered us! We sat underneath/behind the baskets during the 76ers Celtics game! They pass the ball so FAST you can’t see it!
John was 1 of the greatest of the greatest..i first saw him as a rookie playing in the old MADISON SQ. GARDEN..HAVLICEK STOLE THE BALL..the game was shown in ny t.v. channel 5..it was a great game...when bill russell became player coach 1 of the things he did first he made john the captain
Nice one. Really good statistics.
My brother and I always talk about John Havlicek. He is and always will be my No.1 sports idol.
Great video. Sweet, short and to the point. Keep them up in this format ‼️❣️💪
I’ll always remember him in that championship game against the phoenix suns
Very underrated..he was the best player during 3 of those playoff runs....can argue bailey Howell for two of those but ge was definitely the man on the 74 squad
Akso 'havlicek steals the ball' is definitely a top 5 legendary call & play in the finals
He was before many of our times, but that does not diminish his accomplishments.
so many people today don't know their basketball history... Havlicek was one of the greatest...
History breaks up the Celtics championship era into three segments: The Bill Russell Era (1956-1969), the 70s (1970-1979), and the Bird Era (1979-1986), We really should be talking about it as one long, singular dynasty. 16 championships in 30 years. Players become coaches, Tommy Heinsohn takes over for Russell and they get back to championship form, then Dave Cowens gives it a try, then KC Jones wins a couple at the end of the whole era. If you studied Celtics history, you see how players overlap the eras. The common threads through it all: Red Auerbach as coach and GM, Johnny Most on the radio, and the old Boston Garden. Had Len Bias and Reggie Lewis not died so young, could the Celtics mega-dynasty continued into the 90s, and if so, would Jordan's Bulls never have emerged, and would we even be associating Jordan with 6-0?
I really enjoyed your video on the disrespect of Jerry west. I would really enjoy more videos of you giving flowers to similar players who go disrespected.
My favorite basketball player.
Havlicek- one of the best !
So many incredible and wonderful players that for me is hard to rank, but he is up there with all the great players that the NBA has produced. Great video!
I watched a lot of Hondo (but in those days, only the nationally televised games and the playoffs, since I didn't live in the Boston area). He was awesome, and I had him around the top 5 at his position for a long time, maybe pushed a little lower by later players but definitely still top 10. His conditioning in his mid-30s had him running players 10 years younger into the ground by the later parts of the game.
As to top Celtics of all time, here's what he himself said about Dave Cowens: 'No one ever did more for the Celtics than Dave did.'
Cowens was one of a handful of players who led a team in all major statistical categories for a season. The five others were Pippen, Garnett, Bron, Giannis, and Jokic. So for top Celtics, Bird, Russell, Cowens and Hondo are their Mt. Rushmore.
Yeah Saturday!!!🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for this information, I didn't know about John Havlicek
Top 20 all time
What's ur top 20 all time in order
Wilt, Bird, Magic, Kareem, Russell , Jordan, Hakeem, Walton, Oscar, West, Barry, Frazier, Dr J, Hondo,Moses,Duncan,Sabonis Sr, Joker, Monroe, Elvin.
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🤔 interesting but I respect ur list even tho I disagree with it
1. MJ
2. Kap
3. Magic
4. LBJ
5. Stilt
6. Fundamental
7. Larry Legend
8. Mamba
9. Dream
10. Shaq
11. Mr. Russell
12. Dr. J
13. Steph
14. Moses
15. K.D
16. Big O
17. Elgin
18. Logo
19. Mailman
20. Round Mound
He was a great player and such a humble man hes my guy till this day my friends still call me HONDO!❤ Mr. CLUCH before there was a bird!
Most underrated player of all time!
No. Sam Jones is without doubt the most under-appreciated great player of all time. He was 9-0 in the finals, including 7 straight, as a major contributor (top 6 in MPG). Sam was the greatest clutch shooter of all-time & a great all-around player. Of course, this video proves my point.
Great video. I was not aware of this stat. Havlicek, KC Jones and Tom "Satch" Sanders all went 8-0 in the NBA Finals. Other players come to mind, like Bill Russell, who won more titles, but Russell's Celtics lost to the St. Louis Hawks in the 57-58 NBA Finals, so his record would be 9-1 (he won 11 rings in 13 years, but his Celtics lost to the Philadelphia 76ers in the 66-67 Eastern Conference Finals and so he didn't make the Finals that year).
Havlicek was also drafted by the Cleveland Browns and had a decent shot at being a wideout. He was one of the last players cut by the team before the regular season roster was set.
My favorite player also when I was a kid
My dad was 22 at the time stationed in Germany. And they had the videos. And he told me that Johnny Most almost had a heart attack. Because he stole the ball
i think it might be sam jones
i dont think he was as good, but he was definitely a greater winner (in theory)
still great video!
i love seeing love for older players
keep it up :)
I am old AF at nearly 60, but feel lucky that I got to see some great sportsmen play, and that included John Havlicek, even for just the last 3-4 seasons of his career when he was past his prime but still phenomenal. He is easily in my list of the 20-25 greatest ball players of all time and one of the top small forwards. As a small forward, I rank only Bird, Dr. J, LeBron and Baylor ahead of him and as a Celtic, only Russell and Bird were greater. In fact, before 1986 or so, I thought that Havlicek was a greater Celtic than Bird; he was that good.
Rest in peace, Hondo.
I know this is about Hondo, but I am so glad you give propers to the good doctor, Julius Erving!!!!
@@camaradiop3731 "Julius...The Doctor...EEEEEEEEERVING!"
I talk 60s 70s an80s ballers daily, that's when the game was real!!!
Hondo was the quintessential blue collar player... he didn't invent hustle but he took it to another level!
The greats of yeasteryear tend to be forgotten from the mainstream fan, true lovers of the game know.
Hondo was a ‘force of nature’ !
Watching him & Bradley run around on each other made my eyeballs weary!
That was Basketball not like these 3 pt. Chucker trackmeets today !
Havlicek stole the GOAAAAAT!!!
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John Havlicek IS the Goat of the NBA.
I love the separation between great Celtic players and the rest of the NBA.
If John Havilicek had the 3 point shot throughout his NBA career his numbers would be staggering. He was the "Larry Bird" of his day. A truly great player.
Havlicek is incredibly underrated!
He’s a Top20 player at minimum and was the blueprint for LBJ, Hill, Luka etc etc
If John played in the modern era he’d be lauded at even greater heights!
What's ur top 20 all time in order
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1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. LBJ
5. Duncan
6. Kobe
7. ShaQ
8. Wilt
9. Bird
10. Hakeem
11. Russell
12. Curry
13. I. Thomas
14. Dr. J
15. Moses
16. Havlicek
17. Nowitzki
18. Garnett
19. Giannis
20. Jokic
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 Great list. Bird should be at least top 7, but other than that, great list. Giannis should not be there in my opinion.
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Love me some Hondo. One of the most slept on ever
John was a great collegiate basketball player. He also played baseball there. When he left college, he tried out as a receiver with the Cleveland Browns and almost made the team.
John could play offense and defense at high level. A Kentucky basketball fan told me that John frustrated Kentucky star Cotton Nash to the point where he was just about shooting through the rafters. I do think Kevin McHale was just as important to the team.
This is what a dribble looks like!!!!