My game theory is that he actually survived the munitions fire (or at least his frames did) but was obviously too far gone for further harbor use, so was sold as salvage to a rather willing Fat Controller in need of a new crane for his work as he had an existing port and a new one underway.
I honestly never believed the theory that the Big Mickey in Tugs and Thomas were the same character. They may look alike in terms of design and share the same name, but I go by the order in which the episodes in Tugs were produced in, so I like to believe that Big M died in Munitions. Plus, even though he only ended up having a megaphone once the episodes in Tugs were being shot, had he been given a face, it would've looked completely different to the one used in Thomas. And I ain't just saying that due to the face colors. There's also some other things that I could mention on why I don't believe that Thomas and Tugs take place in the same universe but I don't want to go on forever with this comment. Anyway, Big Mickey was a good character in Tugs despite not appearing in many episodes. And although it was tragic to see him die in Munitions, it was certainly a brave move on his part to risk his life for the tugs.
It’s obviously not the same canon, but whether Mickey actually died is debatable. They seemed to have already changed their mind about killing him off by the time they recut the episode for TV. Then he was going to be a ghost in “Ghosts,” but they changed that too. I think we should just accept that Big Mickey is not a normal character. He’s a meme. He can die, come back to life, be a ghost in one episode, and appear in another series. He’s just there for the writers to play with, and he’s an inside joke for the crew.
If Thomas and Tugs are in the same canon (which I like to believe they are) then the one from Thomas is his brother since they had different face designs and the one in Tugs died.
In thomas and friends episode steam team rescue season 23 mickey saw carly another crane almost dying like him luckily she did not die thanks to another crane cranky holding on to carly its very dark when you compare both tugs and Thomas and friends
This aged well... This video reminds me when we only had a single image of him, now Snatcher has enough info for a theory based profile. There's 3 snatchers! Snatcher 1 was a big mickey clone at luckys yard. Snatcher 2 is the coal crane in the 20 minute script "Railhead", who works with jack the grappler to tease the tugs. He speaks in rhymes and is a smaller crane. Snatcher 3 is the one in Ghosts... THE BLUE FACE DOES NOT EVEN FIT BIG MICKEY'S MODEL-
Maybe he was salvaged at some point before being sold and ending up on Sodor that way. I don't know it's just a guess, but that could be one explanation for his presence in Thomas and Friends.
fantastic i loved it by the way you forgot his basisi is a US navy 20 ton crane............................so why the wrong accent. PS.i think the next should be izzy gomez.
@@bernarda1247 I like the idea of him dying, plus he’s never outright confirmed that he’s from Bigg City or nearby, so I can have a headcanon about this can’t I?
While most people say that big Mickey did die, I’d think that’s not the case. Remember, there were 20 minute cuts of the 5 episodes, including munitions, and the 20 minute cut was theorised to be an unfinished version, meanwhile the 15 minute cut of munitions is the finished one. I get that it’s debatable, but still, Big Mickey did survived, he landed in shallow waters, after all. Explaining his appearance in Thomas the tank engine. Also, like to note that big Mickey kept the same appearance in Thomas and friends until season 7. Though, it’s just my opinion on the whole “Is big Mickey dead or alive?” Debate.
I'm not so sure if Snatcher is Big Mickey. If it is Big Mickey, why is he being called Snatcher? Plus, the Snatcher face doesn't look like the prototype faces. Snatcher's chin is much smaller, and he has icy blue hair.
I actually heard somewhere that they are two completely separate characters, and just share the same model, one of the reasons for this being that in the proper order, “Ghosts” actually comes before “High Tide” and “Munitions”.
Big Mickey! A character in TUGS and Thomas & Friends! :) If only they made an episode about him in the CGI Series, we could only dream. :)
They did.
He might not be prominent, but one thing for sure: He definitely has an iconic silhouette. Definitely helped by his Thomas appearances.
He’s the reason why Tugs is even canon to the Thomas universe
Yeah :D
Because big mickey was in tugs And Thomas and Friends
My game theory is that he actually survived the munitions fire (or at least his frames did) but was obviously too far gone for further harbor use, so was sold as salvage to a rather willing Fat Controller in need of a new crane for his work as he had an existing port and a new one underway.
I like this
I honestly never believed the theory that the Big Mickey in Tugs and Thomas were the same character. They may look alike in terms of design and share the same name, but I go by the order in which the episodes in Tugs were produced in, so I like to believe that Big M died in Munitions. Plus, even though he only ended up having a megaphone once the episodes in Tugs were being shot, had he been given a face, it would've looked completely different to the one used in Thomas. And I ain't just saying that due to the face colors. There's also some other things that I could mention on why I don't believe that Thomas and Tugs take place in the same universe but I don't want to go on forever with this comment.
Anyway, Big Mickey was a good character in Tugs despite not appearing in many episodes. And although it was tragic to see him die in Munitions, it was certainly a brave move on his part to risk his life for the tugs.
Couldn't have said it better myself, Sammy 👏
Big Mickey has a face in Season 22.
It’s obviously not the same canon, but whether Mickey actually died is debatable. They seemed to have already changed their mind about killing him off by the time they recut the episode for TV. Then he was going to be a ghost in “Ghosts,” but they changed that too.
I think we should just accept that Big Mickey is not a normal character. He’s a meme. He can die, come back to life, be a ghost in one episode, and appear in another series. He’s just there for the writers to play with, and he’s an inside joke for the crew.
Actually, Big Mickey survived, in the original airing, Captain Star said that lying in shallow water saved him from fire and explosions.
My head canon is he was recovered and restored after the explosion, and later sold to Brendam Docks.
To Brendan docks co
If Thomas and Tugs are in the same canon (which I like to believe they are) then the one from Thomas is his brother since they had different face designs and the one in Tugs died.
Someone once said that “Snatcher” is actually the crane that Jack the Grabber is a part of
I believe the crane is called Albert or something.
He is, Albert Sparky.
Yeah!
In thomas and friends episode steam team rescue season 23 mickey saw carly another crane almost dying like him luckily she did not die thanks to another crane cranky holding on to carly its very dark when you compare both tugs and Thomas and friends
Emergency Emergency! Clear the area immediately!
Big Mickey's original face mask reminds me of Kreacher.
0:47 "...he was in Thomas."
Which was mentioned later in the video and even shown in the thumbnail...
@@cindersandashesuk5744 I'm trying to reference the "unlucky tug" dub
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This aged well... This video reminds me when we only had a single image of him, now Snatcher has enough info for a theory based profile. There's 3 snatchers!
Snatcher 1 was a big mickey clone at luckys yard.
Snatcher 2 is the coal crane in the 20 minute script "Railhead", who works with jack the grappler to tease the tugs. He speaks in rhymes and is a smaller crane.
Snatcher 3 is the one in Ghosts...
THE BLUE FACE DOES NOT EVEN FIT BIG MICKEY'S MODEL-
Actually, the crane working with Jack is called Albert Sparky.
HELL YEAH, now this is gonna be great like always 👍
BIIIIG MICKEY!!
Ohh I know who you should do next Captain Star.
@CindersAndAshes You're not sure how to re-use a character that's already died? Ask the crew on Eastenders - they do it all the time!!!! hahahaha
I'm afraid of big mickey's ghost face
Understandable
Yes
Now you say it, it would be weird if they renamed Big Mickey for Thomas & Friends
i did wonder why big mickey get a face while thomas was in cgi
cool video
They should’ve called him giant Mickey
Ugh no!! That doesn't have the same ring to it
0:01 what episode is this from?
High Tide.
@@jamessmithandgarrettsmith3623 thank you
Maybe he was salvaged at some point before being sold and ending up on Sodor that way. I don't know it's just a guess, but that could be one explanation for his presence in Thomas and Friends.
Is it me or does he not have a front window
I think the version where big mickey survives in tugs is canon and then he got sold to sir topham hat for Brendan docks on sodor
The most Big crane🏗️ in the Docks
big mickey was called big bassil in salty's lighthouse
He did appear in all engines go as a Slient character
We don't talk about all engines go here...
fantastic i loved it by the way you forgot his basisi is a US navy 20 ton crane............................so why the wrong accent.
PS.i think the next should be izzy gomez.
Blue sprunki:and lying in shallow water saves big Mackey from both power and explosion
(this narrator from The Farm munitions)
When big mickey sees a crane falls:*Flash backs*
What about Puffa?
Imagine if Sally the seaplane crashed into big Mickey 😂
15 m might be canno since he is at the docks in Thomas
Where did you get that clip?
Which clip?
Could you make Sally Seaplane character profile?
Certainly will do in the future! :)
My version of munitions has the length of the vhs version but the shallow water line of the tvs version.
Huh, that's oddly interesting 🤔
R.I.P big Micky (╯︵╰,)
The Big Mickey in Thomas is his brother.
@@joshuaW5621no it isn’t
Big Mickey isn’t dead
@@bernarda1247 I like the idea of him dying, plus he’s never outright confirmed that he’s from Bigg City or nearby, so I can have a headcanon about this can’t I?
My theory is that he died in munitions and the one on sodor was named in his honour
While most people say that big Mickey did die, I’d think that’s not the case. Remember, there were 20 minute cuts of the 5 episodes, including munitions, and the 20 minute cut was theorised to be an unfinished version, meanwhile the 15 minute cut of munitions is the finished one. I get that it’s debatable, but still, Big Mickey did survived, he landed in shallow waters, after all. Explaining his appearance in Thomas the tank engine. Also, like to note that big Mickey kept the same appearance in Thomas and friends until season 7. Though, it’s just my opinion on the whole “Is big Mickey dead or alive?” Debate.
How do you find a 15 minutes version 🇬🇧?
They're on UA-cam. Simply search for the tvs version and you should find it
@@cindersandashesuk5744 ok
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#BigMickeydies! Lol
I'm not so sure if Snatcher is Big Mickey. If it is Big Mickey, why is he being called Snatcher? Plus, the Snatcher face doesn't look like the prototype faces. Snatcher's chin is much smaller, and he has icy blue hair.
Probably a named for an alternate personality. The face doesn't have to match the prototype either. The supernatural isn't supposed to make sense
I actually heard somewhere that they are two completely separate characters, and just share the same model, one of the reasons for this being that in the proper order, “Ghosts” actually comes before “High Tide” and “Munitions”.
@@ciarangleeson2880
Where was this?
I don’t really remember. I think it was on the TUGS wiki, maybe?
how did big mickey survive in the 15 minute cut he just died
Cheryl b24 love ❤
He is so tall