Have the 890 & 1290 both awesome bikes with the 890 being used for local off road riding & the 1290 for longer adventure rides throughout remote locations in Australia 🇦🇺. Great video🎉 with lots of laughs , keep up the great work mate !!
Great video, I chose the 2021 Ducati Multistrada V4S for my sport adventure tourer & the 2020 KTM ENDURO 690R for my dual sport motorcycle & are just amazing motorcycles, it was tough deciding between the 890 & 1290 so I picked the way I did & very happy with them, everyone ride safe
Out the door with tax, license, and registration, my 2023 890 Adventure R was $20,000.00. Bought in the U.S., in So California. After the demo mode ended, I spent another $900.00 to have all the cool tech installed. I have over 1200 miles on my bike and love it. I added the factory heated grips and some other stuff.
Portugal 890 Adventure R 2022 - € 15.563 1290 Super Adventure R 2022 - € 21.979 Values shown include VAT at the legal rate in force (23%), transport, ISV, Ecovalor, Ecolube and PFU. Documentation and IUC expenses are added.
Germany. Atm the 1290 R goes for 18500€ w/o packs. Bought my S yesterday for 19000€ fully specced. You can adjust the windshield of the 890 by removing the screw on the shield and put it into the top position.
Here in Singapore, the 890 Adventure R goes for SGD$34,900 whilst the 1290 Adventure R is SGD$47,500. But that doesn’t include the ~SGD$11,000 Certificate of Entitlement (COE) you have to purchase before riding it on the road. So technically, you would have to pay SGD$58,500 (~€40,000) for a 1290 SAR in Singapore. Love the vids Smokey!
Hello, have you encountered and engine vibrations? I had the 1090, 1290 both R and now the new 2022 1290 R, I have engine vibrations from 6000 rpm up… I have not seen any reviews where this has been noted? Would appreciate and info. Thanks
Could be yeah , but the reason I bought the KTM in the first place is to give me some engine vibrations. I think the v-twin is just a very vibrating engine overall :-)
Depending on your riding skills, both bikes in this video are designed for completely different riding terrain. I use my 2023 KTM 350 EXC-F for difficult and technical riding and my 2017 KTM 1090 R for fast pavement rides to less technical off-road trails. From my experience, having two bikes is a minimum to cover all the different styles of riding. Great video, thanks for sharing!
Don't disrespect the 890's indicator lever - that was one of the deciding factors in my choice of this amazing machine over the competition! I like to know when I've indicated left, right, or whatever, as opposed to guessing and hoping for the best...
I dunno, I rode an 1190, and bought an 890. The only thing I noticed about the 1190 is it was huge, heavy, long, tall, Wasnt stable at speed, 120 mph it was moving around and wobbling some. A 1290 might be better on road but otherwise, its awful big. I have 9 older speeding tickets that sit under my helmet at home, I dont want 160 HP at all, not even a little on road or off. A ticket for wheelies in the US? Is over 1300.00. For one wheelie. Keep it in mind, 2 points on record.
Very good video job, thank you. Very informative. And what you said at 6 .00 you are totally Right.... it is amazing all the gouvernement Bullshit. I just sold my r1200gs 2018 ( I run this one 4 years), and I m switching for the 890 Adventure R the new model 2023. So I m very happy to see you r reviewing. I m Canadian, and the new 890 R with the Tech Pact is close to 18 000$ cad.
Canada Pricing - 890 R - $15,899.00 & 1290 R - $21,499.00. I thought this would be higher then most countries because Canadian money is like Monopoly money, but really I think Canadians are getting a pretty good deal here. And Smokey - shame on you for cheating on your girl while she is right there! You really need to take her out for another night time adventure to make up to her.
Hi, Smokey, Belarus is exposed here: $22,356 for 890R $30,485 for SAR 😭 A month ago I bought a 390 Adv for about $10,000 from a dealership. I think it's better to visit Poland, buy a bike there, and then return VAT taxes or buy without them if this option is possible at a dealership.
Hello Smokey and cheers from Costa Rica, there is a guy asking $24000USD for a 2021 SA1290R with 8000Kms on it, just for you to have an idea about prices around here...
I’m in Singapore. 1290 R around 40.000€ with papers valid for 10 years… 😢 BMW GSA, 55k€ also for 10 years validity, Ducati Street fighter Lamborghini, 130k€ !!
Made me laugh again…Dude I love ya! So funny my ….Norden 901 is heavy enough. Can’t imagine an average rider being able to handle 1290 weight wise on anything more than a flat fire trail. Yes I e dropped it ,had to drag it around and face up hill and ride it back out!
I mean this with all due respect, but your content would be so much more watchable without the schticks! You're so informative, experienced, and well spoken that it's just an unnecessary distraction.
You mean the silly stuff in between? Not sure what Shticks means 😅. I can't be someone I'm not , I tried and it makes it 100 times as hard to create videos like these. 🙈
@@LifeofSmokey Na much less. More like 10%. But this 10% I often would like to be more narly than I am confident with the 1290. Drove a motocross track on a training day with it and it could do it but you always feel like to go crazy you need the 890R 😬 But the power of the beast and its third gear powerwheelies are just too addictive on the road. And despite the equal suspension and the flimsy indicator switch you can feel the extra money went in better equipment compared to the 790/890 (Better display, keyless, brembo brakes, wind shield, quality plastics etc).
@@Verknechter yep a sas or sar feels like a Cadillac compared to the 890 😁. I like a challenge so i'm keeping my 1290 no matter how gnarly offroad it gets haha
Have the 890 & 1290 both awesome bikes with the 890 being used for local off road riding & the 1290 for longer adventure rides throughout remote locations in Australia 🇦🇺. Great video🎉 with lots of laughs , keep up the great work mate !!
I have an 890. After a few 6 hour highway rides, I want the 1290 and just deal with the weight for the offroad days.
Subbed after the E car comment. This may have been my favorite bike review ever.
Great comparison review smokey. I'm partial to the 1290 since I have one. Still best bike I've ever had
The that What she Said Part got me to like it.
Awesome Video 💪🏼👍🏼
Great video, I chose the 2021 Ducati Multistrada V4S for my sport adventure tourer & the 2020 KTM ENDURO 690R for my dual sport motorcycle & are just amazing motorcycles, it was tough deciding between the 890 & 1290 so I picked the way I did & very happy with them, everyone ride safe
That's an epic combo to have!
Brazil 🇧🇷:
890 adv r - 27500€
1290 adv s - 32250€
Minimum wage: 250€
Chances to get one, level:
• Easy
• Normal
• Hard
• Brazil ✔️✔️✔️
Thats so crazy
Out the door with tax, license, and registration, my 2023 890 Adventure R was $20,000.00. Bought in the U.S., in So California. After the demo mode ended, I spent another $900.00 to have all the cool tech installed. I have over 1200 miles on my bike and love it. I added the factory heated grips and some other stuff.
Portugal
890 Adventure R 2022 - € 15.563
1290 Super Adventure R 2022 - € 21.979
Values shown include VAT at the legal rate in force (23%), transport, ISV, Ecovalor, Ecolube and PFU. Documentation and IUC expenses are added.
Well Smokey, the 890R is about 16.500€ und the 1290R about 23.000€ in Austria as we are the kings of taxes, not too cheap i guess *sighs...
...and we don´t even get a toaster as an incentive!
This is the fault of the green hippies. F...ing nova (co2 tax). Thats why is it so expensive here in Austria
Don’t forget the Netherlands. Also land of extra taxes for its own population 🥴
I love your way of post-processing :-D Well editted!! :)
Australia: KTM 1290 Super Adv R from AUD33,265 . KTM 890 Adv R from AUD23,380. Includes Gov charges and dealer delivery.
perfect reflection on the green lie at 6mins - hilarious video too 🙂
Spain:
890 ADV R: 14,549 EUR
1290 SAR: 20,599 EUR
Both of them as the starting price
Súmale mil pavos reales para desbloquear el pase de batallas de la moto ( +Tech Pack)
Subscribed, love your sense of humor.
good comparison 😉 i would go for the 890...still waiting to release it in india. now we have only 390 here
Germany. Atm the 1290 R goes for 18500€ w/o packs. Bought my S yesterday for 19000€ fully specced.
You can adjust the windshield of the 890 by removing the screw on the shield and put it into the top position.
In Denmark 20.000€ will buy you an 1190 😵
Here in Singapore, the 890 Adventure R goes for SGD$34,900 whilst the 1290 Adventure R is SGD$47,500. But that doesn’t include the ~SGD$11,000 Certificate of Entitlement (COE) you have to purchase before riding it on the road. So technically, you would have to pay SGD$58,500 (~€40,000) for a 1290 SAR in Singapore. Love the vids Smokey!
That is insane dude
The best part is this COE (paper of the bike) is only valid for 10 years. Then you can renew another 10 years 😭
Hello, have you encountered and engine vibrations? I had the 1090, 1290 both R and now the new 2022 1290 R, I have engine vibrations from 6000 rpm up… I have not seen any reviews where this has been noted? Would appreciate and info.
Thanks
Could be yeah , but the reason I bought the KTM in the first place is to give me some engine vibrations. I think the v-twin is just a very vibrating engine overall :-)
Depending on your riding skills, both bikes in this video are designed for completely different riding terrain. I use my 2023 KTM 350 EXC-F for difficult and technical riding and my 2017 KTM 1090 R for fast pavement rides to less technical off-road trails. From my experience, having two bikes is a minimum to cover all the different styles of riding. Great video, thanks for sharing!
Agree , there is never a perfect bike to cover everything. Can't imagine getting stuck in deep mud with a 1290 and be happy with it haha.
@@LifeofSmokey I agree, unless you bring a tow truck with a winch, a few dancing girls, and some high end champagne!
If you ask me,Smokey has the best videos !
Don't disrespect the 890's indicator lever - that was one of the deciding factors in my choice of this amazing machine over the competition! I like to know when I've indicated left, right, or whatever, as opposed to guessing and hoping for the best...
I dunno, I rode an 1190, and bought an 890. The only thing I noticed about the 1190 is it was huge, heavy, long, tall, Wasnt stable at speed, 120 mph it was moving around and wobbling some. A 1290 might be better on road but otherwise, its awful big.
I have 9 older speeding tickets that sit under my helmet at home, I dont want 160 HP at all, not even a little on road or off.
A ticket for wheelies in the US? Is over 1300.00. For one wheelie. Keep it in mind, 2 points on record.
Smokey , great review.... Thanks a lot
Very good video job, thank you. Very informative. And what you said at 6 .00 you are totally Right.... it is amazing all the gouvernement Bullshit.
I just sold my r1200gs 2018 ( I run this one 4 years), and I m switching for the 890 Adventure R the new model 2023. So I m very happy to see you r reviewing. I m Canadian, and the new 890 R with the Tech Pact is close to 18 000$ cad.
What do you use to record your audio in your helmet? It sounds great. How much of that is the helmet vs mic setup?
Which one is the best Norden 901 or KTM 890R in your opinion?
Best comparison ever….both are at the top!!
I went with the 1290R just for the motor.
Also aren’t the 790/890 motors manufactured in China (cf Moto ?).
Great and fun review.
Great video Smokey. Wish i could afford both bikes!! In the UK the 890 is £12499 and the 1290 £16499.
so the conclusion as always in 890 vs. 1290....buy both bikes. Got it!
Yep that's correct 😅🙈
Canada Pricing - 890 R - $15,899.00 & 1290 R - $21,499.00. I thought this would be higher then most countries because Canadian money is like Monopoly money, but really I think Canadians are getting a pretty good deal here.
And Smokey - shame on you for cheating on your girl while she is right there! You really need to take her out for another night time adventure to make up to her.
I will no worries 😁👌
Cool video once again! Keep it up!
Hi, Smokey, Belarus is exposed here:
$22,356 for 890R
$30,485 for SAR 😭
A month ago I bought a 390 Adv for about $10,000 from a dealership. I think it's better to visit Poland, buy a bike there, and then return VAT taxes or buy without them if this option is possible at a dealership.
Brilliant video, absolutely stunning work Smokey. 👍
In Italy 1290 SAR with teckpac, akra, crash bar and little else €24.515; 890 AR +/- same configuration €18.336
Greetings
As always fantastic video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸.
So much entertainment, keep producing more videos.
Thanks a lot m8! Appreciate the feedback 😎👌❤️
Good choice smokey, your a funny guy, love your videos.
27,999 for the 2023 890r , and 36,299 for the 2022 1290 adventure R ,here in New Zealand
hi thanks for the video. What brand is the lower protection of the 890? Buona strada. (I’m from Italy and I’m gonna buy a 890r)
No idea , bike is back to ktm sorry m8. But most of the time it's parts you can configure on the ktm website 😊
UK prices: 890 Adventure R is £12,499 and the 1290 Adventure R is £16,649. Price is for base models.
Good one mate
i like the 1290 SAR but im only 5 feet 5 inches tall do i have chance to ride properly?
Depends on your riding skills I guess , smaller people can ride bigger bikes. But it's gonna be hard to pick it back up from the floor :-)
I freakin love my 1290 SAR.
Hello from Serbia Man🙂 Your video's is funny to watch ..nice moto you have Ktm and Bmw is the best👍
Hello Smokey and cheers from Costa Rica, there is a guy asking $24000USD for a 2021 SA1290R with 8000Kms on it, just for you to have an idea about prices around here...
Portugal - 890R : 15.653Euros; 1290R : 21.979 Euros. Plus legalization of documentation (+ or - 400 Euros..).
The 1290 is a big heavy bike! And I think that’s the difference. Off road, 890 all day every day.
Great comparison. Heads vs hearts ultimately. I don’t need either but want the 1290!
great video!🔥
Thumbs up and much support from my side
for 890, it is much better wind flow, when you remove the winglets under the headlights. just try it 👍
Nice review!
How about a ktm 1290 SA S model?
It's the only that misses in tour channel
Hey Smokey! The 890 windscreen is adjustable, but you have to remove that middle screw on the front to adjust.
Oh damn , remove a screw to adjust , that's gonna be hard when riding haha
@@LifeofSmokey cruise control..
Lol
I moved away from Akrapovic nowadays. While I still use it for my RSV4, I will be going either Remus or Yoshimura on my 890 adv R. Far denser sound.
In the usa the 1290 s and r dealerships around pittsburgh Pennsylvania and most states advertise $19495 msrp
Entertaining and love your banter... very funny 😄 "we will own nothing and be happy"
I’m in Singapore. 1290 R around 40.000€ with papers valid for 10 years… 😢
BMW GSA, 55k€ also for 10 years validity, Ducati Street fighter Lamborghini, 130k€ !!
Lithuania:
KTM 1290 SUPER ADVENTURE R - 20305 eur
KTM 890 ADVENTURE - 14080 eur
I'm in western Canada.
890 AR is $15,899.
1290 SAR is $21,499.
890 Adventure £12,499.00 the 1290 Adventure £16,649.00 UK prices
The stock 1290 seat is even lower than the 1290 ergo low seat. Try it
In denmark the 1290r Costs 38.987,89 € and the 890r 28.232,61€
What tyres have you fitted to your SuperAdventure?
Those are Mitas E10 Dakar 😊
Are you going to do some reviews on the triumph tigers to ?
I might....not sure what way i'm going with the channel 😅
@@LifeofSmokey just do what you think is the best for you're channel and maybe we will meet on the road one day because Belgium is small
The 1290 looks like General Grievous from Star Wars - Clone Wars
😆
In Serbia
The 890 is 14600eur
The 1290 is 20000eur
And I'm picking one on Monday!!! 🤘🤘🤘
How about a 390 vs 890?
Hey body. 890 Adv R is 26.000 dolars and the 1290 Adv R is 45~50.000 dolars here in Ecuador.
You stole Wyn Tv's theme song. Lol! Nice bikes.
890r What a beauty!
Hey smokey,
In Turkey:
890 18.100€
1290sar 27.300€
Just crazy
Finland
890R 20733€
1290R 27493€
Includes taxes
Take the slip on from the 890 and fab it to fit the 1290 is what I’d do
from turkey, 890r 22.618 euro, 1290 adv r 31.144 euro
Made me laugh again…Dude I love ya! So funny my ….Norden 901 is heavy enough. Can’t imagine an average rider being able to handle 1290 weight wise on anything more than a flat fire trail. Yes I e dropped it ,had to drag it around and face up hill and ride it back out!
Qatar here. 1290 SAR equivalent of €18,000.
Compared to the big Mamma, the 890 looks like kid's bike
I'm from Mexico, 890 is around $15K and 1290 around $$21K USD.
890 Not available, only got 390 and 250 advs at $8K and $5.3K Nepal
We have the Africa Twin at like $20K
22,000 EUR in Australia
That's the 1290R with tech pack.
Norway before registration 890R 18.728€ 1290R 28.683€
Hey smokey,
In Greece:
890 16.600€
1290sar 23.000€
One of the most expensive countries with high taxes. No tech pack, no nothing, completely stock.
I like the 890 , but I want a GS 850 Adv, but it weighs 248 kg fully fueled 😲 😄
trust me, stay away from that bike
Once I drove a Mercedes E classe on its side in the ditch. I am now on my 5th Mercedes 👌😉
$26,500 for the 890 and $34,500 for the 1290 here in New Zealand 🇳🇿
Fan From India
How tall are you for reference
176cm 😎
@@LifeofSmokey thankyou sir
I Love kTm😁
I mean this with all due respect, but your content would be so much more watchable without the schticks! You're so informative, experienced, and well spoken that it's just an unnecessary distraction.
You mean the silly stuff in between? Not sure what Shticks means 😅.
I can't be someone I'm not , I tried and it makes it 100 times as hard to create videos like these. 🙈
Couldn't DISagree with you more. Smokey is hilarious!! 😂😂
The humor!
Costa Rica , the 1290 its $32000 =( ...........dont know the price of the 890
160hp off-road = 100% yes you do
Unfortunately both are not available in my country (india)😭
Sweden. 890 adv R, 14512 euro
1290 R, 18776 euro
Chile / 1290 R !!!
KTM Israel prices:
890 R - 28 068 euro
1290 R - 42 773 euro
back in my days, 2-3 years ago 😂🤣
Man still not sure if I should downgrade from a SAS to a 890R 😂
If you wanna spend 80% of your time offroad....yes. If not , nope 😁
@@LifeofSmokey Na much less. More like 10%. But this 10% I often would like to be more narly than I am confident with the 1290. Drove a motocross track on a training day with it and it could do it but you always feel like to go crazy you need the 890R 😬
But the power of the beast and its third gear powerwheelies are just too addictive on the road. And despite the equal suspension and the flimsy indicator switch you can feel the extra money went in better equipment compared to the 790/890 (Better display, keyless, brembo brakes, wind shield, quality plastics etc).
@@Verknechter yep a sas or sar feels like a Cadillac compared to the 890 😁. I like a challenge so i'm keeping my 1290 no matter how gnarly offroad it gets haha
Ducati Desert x is much lighter and its power is more than enough
Uruguay
Ktm 890 us dollar $30000
Ktm 1290 us dollar $40000
Finland 28 224 € 1290 super adventure R