Falling in love with Shure SM7b all over again - How to get AMAZING sound out of SM7b in 2020
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2020
- Today, we're talking about the Shure SM7b... again. I've gone back to it for the first time in a long time, and I've fallen back in love with it all over again. There seems to be some confusion about how to use it, so let's re-review the SM7b microphone and talk about how to get the best sound out of it!
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Any tips on my mic sounds in my vid? anything i should change? i want my mic to sound more full.
Perfect, that's the mic I use and I've been working on my audio a lot recently, amazing timing!
Love your videos! Glad I'm subscribed to both you and EposVox!
i just picked up the rode procaster, ag06 and fethead but i am wondering if i should now replace the procaster with one of these microphones .
Procaster is wonderful!
You don´t have to. The microphone is just a tool and if it sounds great, why to spend 400$ on different microphone? I would rather spend money on the DBX286s which is a great piece of equipement.
this is the best video I've seen explaining the dynamics of this microphone and how to utilize its sound I've found. thanks for the help. for an audio beginner like me, it helped.
I'm so glad you did this video. Picked one up a few days ago and it should be here within the next day, so excited to use your tips with it!
Have found that I'm ready to upgrade my microphone for my content and definitely thinking I'm going to go for the Shure SM7b. Thank you for making this video!
Funny seeing you here ;)
Oh this is perfect timing. Actually just copped this and the 286s channel strip from dbx.
Does this mean a related incoming video? ;)
Brian you use SM7B on streams?
i'd still recommend a fethead or cl1 on top to get some extra clean gain
Thank you so much Epos, i was looking into the Mic but most guides dont cover everything you need to know. After having watched your video im confident in what i need and how to set it up! :)
Love this video. I've been using the DBX286s and y Procaster for my TeleMental Health and coaching business on my Mac. Now I"m picking up a go xlr and sm7b for the DSP and amazing preamps. This video ROCKS! I have been watching tons of your vids adn many sm7b vids to decide on this and your video is perfect timeing. I pulled the order trigger yesterday so my PC can stream and serve as a back up for my tele mental health and coaching business! Thanks for this settings vid!
Have used this mic for work at my day job and reeeeeeeally want a couple for home use. Excellent vid, man!
There is one reason to run the SM7B without one of the windshields on. The high end is *so* much more affected by it than you would typically expect from a windshield.
It's worth experimenting with.
Had mine since 2018! Been extremely happy with it. Running an Audient ID44 and a cloudlifter.
i cant lie the sound you have through this video is actualy amazing ima about to do this same setup
One of the best audio mixes for voice on UA-cam!!
Thank you so much for pointing this out (regarding the SM7B's shielding). I too had a similar problem where no matter how many ferrite beads I had in my setup and path, no matter how many ground loop isolators I had, whether I used gimmicks such as an iDefender or not, my mics kept picking up this EMI buzz or hum. The SM7B is the only mic I have that has enough shielding to cancel it out. I discovered that the EMI had a lot to do with the electrical wires hovering over my home (our neighborhood has a spiderweb of electrical wires connected to each other). Great video!
Thank you so much! So useful
I actively watch you and Banderew/Podcastage. I feel you two should actively collaborate more on content. Streaming + Microphones = an excellent opportunity for collaboration.
Question
Thinking about picking up the Shure sm7b.
I'll be connecting it to the Zoom f8n obviously won't need the cloud yes?
Loving the natural sound.
I've had my SM7B + DBX286S for 4 years and I'm still in love. Got the Goxlr too. :)
So you don't need a Cloud Lifter gain booster
@@_Trakman I bought one and tried it out, but I sold it after 1 week, it didn't do me anything.. :)
@@CreativeNotJustYet you'd have to crank up the DBX to the max and then there'd be noise??
@@_Trakman 59dB on the DBX without any noise at all, I do use the noise gate too tho, cause my room isn't treated
@@CreativeNotJustYet thanks so. Helpful to know this before buying
Did you have any Idea of how to make the shure sm7b noise dissapear without a cloudlifter with a Line 6 ux2?
That interface might not have enough clean gain for it, hence the noise.
Same problem with my dbx 286A preamp. When approaching the 60 dB gain limit, noise appears.
you could try the klark teknik CT-1 (around 25$). It works just like a cloudlifter but its much cheaper but not bad at all ^^
Speaking to the flyswatter pop filter on a windscreenless SM7b. Removing the stock filter does add treble extension, which is especially important in a vocal music production setting. Overall it sounds slightly cleaner than the stock filter for singing applications. It's less about improving the plosive reduction, and more about the sound signature being more natural.
It's much cleaner to my ears that way, especially when using UAD plugins when tracking.
Also, many people forget about the low cut/treble boost switches on the backplate of the SM7B. Those can be useful too.
i learn alot from your vidoes and want to improve my sound
I second the Q2U! Is an amazing microphone for the money with future upgrading built in!
I have the SM7B and GoXLR and LOVE IT!
Excellent video as usual Mr. Vox! Though I’m curious on how effective that ferrite bead is? I have an SM57 and it is not shielded like the SM7b, so I unfortunately pick up a lot of EMI from my monitor weirdly.
Would you recommend the ferrite bead? & Do you have an affiliate link for the specific bead you used? Many thanks!
Nothing better than low end at flat with the presence boost engaged, it sounds amazing imo.
3 years late, but it sounds decent at best for my deep voice. There are much better mics for deep voices imo.
An awesome video as per usual, Adam. 😁 👌
Personally, I really like the natural sound and overall tone of the SM7b however, with that being said, it's on my far future purchase list.
Cheers man! 🍻
Thank you for the tips.
I just bought a Cloudlifter. I was finding that my SSL2 alone was enough to push it, but only around 8 and above on the gain knob. I think it sound ways better now that I've added the CL-1 to the chain.
Hi! Have had the SM7b since mid-2018, fantastic mic! I have heard some through 70db around as recommended gain. I started with an audient ID14, and while at first I thought it was enough, I eventually realized it wouldn’t cut it. Same problem with the ID44. I eventually picked up the cloudlifter and now use that with my EVO 4. Glad you’re getting good results with your go XLR! It seems like the more gain you feed it, the better. Wonderful video :)
My Audient ID4 MKII cuts it, but barely. Able to reach about -14 dB recording level without hiss, but not more.
That's my mic! And also im always trying to aim for a natural voice sound and I love it. Did some test talking pretty close to the mic to get the bassy radio voice but it's just no of my taste
Might be just me, but I really dig the blue marking on the XLR cable. Goes nice with the violet cap thingy and he sometimes even matches his nails sooo nice! :)
sounds good! I try out different setups with my sm7b, but in the end I keep finding that I like the normal sound, so I end up stripping out all the processing I add. it's just a good sounding mic on its own.
Thank you so much, great video
Do I need a cloudlifter to use this mic? I plan to use it with the Zoom h8. Think those preamps are good enough?
Saw they're making Kaotica Eyeballs for the sm7b now. How do you feel about that?
Nice deep-dive into this mic's sound. Thanks especially for talking about the plosives -- I thought I was the only one having that issue with the SM7B, as I never see anybody use it with a "flyswatter" as you said. I do talk close to it, and maybe tend to over-enunciate when I get rolling, and the plosives are a downside of that.. I've gone back to the "puffy" windscreen (even if it muffles sound a little), and if I keep the mic -- as Bandrew always says -- pointed at the corner of my mouth, about 45 degrees and a fist-length away, the plosives are tamed. Hope that helps somebody.
I have the "puffy" one too. Can you just add the lost highs back to the voice with post-processing (e.g. despite using the puffy screen, are those highs somewhat there in the signal)?
The difference between filmmaking processing (subtle) and broadcast (in your face) processing.
The trick, if you really want that much more, is low processing on your voice processor (whether that's a DBX, or software on your computer.)
So 3-6 dB compression max. (fast attack, fairly slow release vs what UA-camrs and podcasters mostly do, super fast release.) Don't boost your low and high end too much.
Then use a subtle to medium level of multiband compressor. That's when the broadcast mics really show themselves. You don't really need to EQ them either.
The multiband will fix that right up for ya.
Whats a multiband and how would i set it up if i were going for that broadcast style voice? (i have an sm58 and umc204hd)
@@Gershy13 multi band compressor in your DAW or Mixing App like Audition
Would you help me to get mince to sound crips and simply perfect? Searching for somebody to help me to perfect the sound of my sm7b and a GOXLR.
Many thanks for the multiband tip!
I use UAD plugins, but try to cut down on using too many at the time...and having a multiband instead an EQ sounds like a great idea!
Super clear and helpful video, cheers! Big jump from a usb mic
I've heard good things about the Shure SM7B paired with the RODE AI-1 Interface too as it provides enough of what you need - what do you think? It seems to compare spec wise in between the Audient EVO 4 and the MOTU M2.
how much gain did you set in the goxlr? I also like to keep about the same distance as you from the shure sm7b and use a goxlr mini, however, mine seems to be way more quiet :( I put the gain to 64dB to avoid too much noise/hiss but need to set the make-up gain to about 15dB to achieve a decent result. really thinking about getting a cloudlifter cl1... tried the dynamite dm1 with this setup but it was really disappointing, just made the noise problem way worse. do you think the cloudlifter cl1 might perform better here?
I like your logic. I don't know if you realize this but you think like a photographer.
Audio in some ways demands the same rules.
Great sound is created /engineered beforehand.
A. The mic a broadcaster chooses is the same as the camera a photographer chooses.
B. Manage your environment.
Photographer creates the scene before the shot is taken and /or continues to manipulate the scene ongoing.
The same can be said about audio.
Broadcaster manipulates the amount of reverb, background noise, base, mid and treble in real time and prepares the sound output beforehand as much as possible and manipulates it ongoing during broadcast.
C. The familiar, common rule applies,
"Garbage in-Garbage out."
The Photographer , Videographer, Audio Tech,
should never rely heavily on post process adjustments to reserect the work.
Minamal post processing or no tweaks should be the goal in software.
Excellent video 😊
Hi, I'm António Filipe from Portugal
I follow your channel since 2018, I love the tone as you do your reviews.
I saw your review on the Motu M2 sound interface, the Shuer SM7B microphone with the Fethead applicator and ended up buying them.
I connected the Shuer SM7B microphone (+ the fethead) and my Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro 250 headphones to the Motu M2 sound interface, installed the driver, and was able to record and listen to Adobe Audition, however when I'm not recording (and even recording) no sound comes out of the headphones.
What am I doing wrong?
Shouldn't sound come out of the headphones at the time of recording?
Thank you very much and continued success with your wonderful channel.
How is the shielding on the SM58? Do you have one you can test? Eventually I'd like to get a SM7b but currently the budget doesn't allow.
There’s a UA-camr named iFerg, if you check out his videos you can hear how loud and clear his audio is even though his ShureSM7B is far away from his mouth. Even when mine is close to my mouth it doesn’t sound that loud. It’s still way too low. I use a ShureSM7B + GoXLR. I even bought a cloudlifter as well, and it’s low with and without it. Any advice?
I think most people have to buy a cloudlifter box to increase the gain by 12db, I remember back in like 2015 or something when people were first buying these microphones for streaming and that's what was often done
@@Stallzyx yea but the GoXLR provides 60db of gain
watching all this mic and go xlr stuff I've been watching is really tempting me to get better gear even though I really don't need it....
what about pairing it with a steinberg ur24c? thought about ur24c with triton fethead. is it any good? do you get a better sound if you get a fethead and go down on the preamp?
Great, I use the shure sm7b myself
Thank you EposVox - may I ask how you treat noise with this microphone. It is a very quiet microphone and even with 60db of gain with a Cloudlifter and DBX286S, the noise floor is still pretty high. How do you deal with this Specifically for this microphone?
Wha is your recommendation if you have a cheaper interface, or are going through a guitar pedal and are thinking about getting this mic?
i am using the go xlr mini and shure sm7b, do you recommend using a cloudlifter?
Good Guide line
When u take off the screen filter completely :) it brightens it up a bit more naturally instead of the boost switches on the bottom of d mic. I do this to counter the proximity effect as i need to eat the mic since i have a very noisy environment. The louder the source( your voice closer) the less noise floor will be. N pretty much i dont eq the mic at all. N just switch the high pass filter.
I just chat with a local guy that had a high end deck (don't remember the name) that has plenty of boost for the SM7b. it is a four figure deck. However, he said that the Cloudlifter still made the SM7b better with that deck. Would you know why or is it just the deck? have you tried the Cloudlifter with the GoXLR and found that it made zero improvement? Thanks.
awesome vid! I'm curious, Ive got tons of friends that will move their mics quite often during their streams, just handling it and such. I was wondering, why are they able to do that without any sound coming out whatsoever. but everytime I move my mic, it's noticeable, you hear my hand touching it kinda thing.
The RE 320 is supposed to have a hum-bucking coil. It is possible that some units leave the factory with the hum-bucking coil connected backwards. I don't have to tell you that this actually amplifies hun and interference rather than cancelling it. This was rumored to be an issue with some units of the RE 20.
As a voice mic I recently rediscovered my AKG D 202e. I'm sure there are some available on ebay. Its warmth is almost ribbon-like.
You have relaxed and your elocution has improved since your first videos.
Appreciate the mic recommendation. I have RE20s, and not thinking I need the SM7B except for the fact that it looks cooler than the RE20. 😎Style is worth something. In a UA-cam / video world that one point makes the 7b interesting.
As far as interfaces, it's doubtful the group following here would know the company & interface, but I can not say enough about Metric Halo interfaces, the team, the company, etc. Have you heard of them? They are awesome! I do not work for them, but I bought 2 of their audio interfaces 17 years ago. They are the only company I know that has issued multiple digital hardware upgrades (the analog portions remain constant) and future proofed their interfaces. The ULN-2 is a 2 input mic-pre & ULN stands for ultra low noise. It's great for mics that need a lot of gain (dynamics). The most recent upgrade was to upgrade from Sharc DSP to FPGA for internal effects and I mean real deal effects and building blocks to create others... They are the sleeper very few know. You can get the ULN-2s for a great price now. Anyway, love the channel, the topic, and the passion. keep it rockin' Eposvox!
How can I use my Shure SM7B going into my Apollo twin MK2 quad core for Xbox live party chats and Twitch/Facebook streams? Will a simple trs from Apollo to aux cable into Xbox controller do or do you recommend I purchase the iRig?
I love both mics as well. I prefer the RE20, but for a plug-in-play no processing option for video meetings and the like the sm7b is king.
Great video! I love watching your vids they have helped heaps!
Hey I actually have a question about the levels? I followed the pic in the last goxlr video and my levels are pretty quiet, do I just add more makeup gain or more gain b4 hand?
Hey great video quick question could I use the dbx286s and XLRGO together I have the dbx already but need a new interface thanks
Also of note about the EVO; Audient's larger-format iD series use the same preamps so they should also work decently well.
What software do you use to record audio from it?
I have the same mic and it's amazing
How good is the mic pre in DBX 286S? Would it work with this mic or other more demanding mics?
I see some reports on the sE Electronics v7 sounding just a bit better to equal for being 1/4th the price. Any chance we can get an opinion on that because I haven't seen you mention it.
I LOVE my Shure SM7b + GoXLR! As someone who had very little audio experience going in to streaming, the GoXLR simplified my setup significantly, and I just love the way the SM7b sounds.
So did you use the CL? Do you need a software for the mixer or just the go all by itself?
@eposvox Im having some issues getting my SMb7 I have it paired with a zoom L8 with a dynamite fethead, im still now getting the sound either it sounds too quite so I raise the gain but then it sounds too boomy Im running SLOBS and i do have filters on my my/aux noise gate, compressor, and Eq. Im wondering if maybe I need to get the goxlr? Im almost sure it user error. I would appropriate any help you can give me?
Love the SM7b, but I have to say the Rode Podmic is a great wallet friendly alternative. I submit through a decent pre-amp and proper Q most would not be able to differentiate the two.
Your the goat!! Im getting rid of my scarlett!! That's That's problem no matter how much I adjust after my plugins analog button is set to off it usually works but thanks! ND I still have the 1st gen scatlett...
Need to get back to Universal Audio
Personally been using the Focusrite CM25 mic for 3 years and the SM7B has always been the professional content creator choice besides if they can stretch to a RE-20 or something, but personally I think I prefer the condenser microphone sound such as Rode NT1, AT2020 etc and these can be had for under half the price and you don't need to worry as much about then buying a cloudlifter box to boost the microphone gain, and going through all this to make them sound good because they just work. I feel like some people just buy the SM7B because they see everyone else doing that and that it "looks" professional rather than considering the sound
I have an Apollo twin x duo with the Shure SM7B but whenever I speak into it, it has a hiss. Any suggestions on how to fix that?
I have a question, once you have all your EQ settings and noise gate etc, setup on the goxlr, do you also do the same on OBS like compression and noise gate or after you got your setting on the goxlr you don’t have to do anything else.
Thanks for the video epos! For the goxlr how much gain did you settle on?
50
Im using a apollo twin and sm7b for music production planing to start streaming how can i set up that podcast "effect" for my obs ?
can you link a video of yourself maybe ?
Awesome video as usual. Congrats on ya'll BEBE!!! QUick Q: What do you think of a pairing this with say, and BEHRINGER UMC 404HD. They have the famed pre-amps by...Mitus (spell check lol)?
Midas, same brand as in goXLR, the question is if they have enough clean gain for the mic.
@ Thanks for that. Anyone give this situation a go?
What is your mic gain option?
Thanks for a good video on the mic and interfaces. Sweep for those little crackles in your voice by doing a narrow 6-12 dB boost, and sweeping that from 0.7 to 6kHz slowly on a recording of your voice. Cut the offending part in your GoXLR equalizer. - a dialogue mixer idea
If I want the same type of sound I'm hearing out of your Shure in this video which of the interfaces (under 300) should I go for?
if you use the scarlett solo do you need a cloud lifter for the shure sm7b
this mic is amazing
how do you feel about the Presonus Audiobox iTwo with the SM7B?
The Gerald Undone of live streaming
I love how I finally saved enough money for a Go XLR and it’s sold out everywhere lol
Meh GOXLR is meh, you waste a lot of money on affects, the mixing of audio is cool but you can get that in the mini. The pre-amps are also meh.
@@DevGambit every review proves otherwise. The preamps are anything but bad.
That's unfortunate. Sorry to hear
The mg10 is better
How sad
I know this isn't a singing channel, but im struggling to find a relatively budget preamp for this mic that wont be too noisy. Obviously i could compress it in post for music production, but i also want to be able to stream/record with it without it being annoying. All the amazon links in the description dont seem to be working too well. Of course i could just get a scarlet or something for the time being, and then upgrade later. Honestly any tips would be helpful.
Which one would you prefer for Shure SM7B with a cloudlifter, SSL2 or ID4 and why?
for the EMI, buzzing, hum sound. I am trying to change my xlr cable to mogami and it's works. Maybe you can try it too. All noise will be disappeared. hope this help..
Can you do a comparison between the DBX 286S and the goXLR? I need to know if the goXLR is better than the DBX with a interface
Would owning the focusrite 2i2 coupled with a cloud lifter hep with the gain issue?
I'm waiting on my shure sm7b and I got an DM1 and scarlett 3rd as amps (was bought on different times) is that fine?
I Have same problem with my shotgun mic I hear static noise what is the name of the product you using for shielding your mic from these static noise ?
hey eposvox is there a big diffrance between go xlr normal big one or the mini one ?
I'm using the *Rode NT1* Myself for youtube recording and the *Shure Super 55* for live. The *Super 55* also looks really cool on stream, you guys should try it out.
I might have to get an SM7b pretty soon. My new studio has a large home AC unit a few feet from it. Noticeable background rumble when it goes on. Love my MKH-416 but the SM7b would be cheaper than soundproofing.
I love it when there's a lot of background noise...kids. 416 for everything else
Thank you bro
Hey Epos,
I've been using a dbx286s with the Shure SM7B for a few years now. My interface is a Scarlett 2i4 second gen. I spent many weeks dialing in my audio perfectly, and I'm happy where it is now, aside from one complaint - I feel it's low at times. Boosting the interface audio doesn't seem to produce natural sound, and I remember seeing a part of this video that mentions the Scarlett 2i2 (not 2i4) not quite providing the gain you need (unless it's a third gen) without tapping into digital gain, raising the noise floor. Lately I've become more and obsessed with audio, and I stumbled across the GoXLR here because I feel the Scarlett is falling behind.
I'm wondering, would transitioning to the GoXLR be a significant improvement over the Scarlett? I'm not very familiar with the GoXLR, and right now I've got my preamp gain (dbx286s) at max, with the Scarlett audio at a 90 degree angle, pointing left, just to get clean sound. Any higher and it produces unclean results unless I up the gate - something I don't want to do because my strident Fs and Vs become silent, meaning when I start sentences with the letter F or V, the mic has a tendency to not pick up either consonant and instead audio just kind of cuts in out of nowhere. Is this a result of the limitations of the Scarlett? Perhaps I don't understand it that well, and I would greatly value your input. Thanks!
Your gain in this case is being provided by the DBX, not the Scarlett - which I also had to use a mic activator with. You would get better results with the goxlr but it would replace your entire chain - the dbx included.
Might be more economical since you already have the rest of the gear to get a Fethead and plug it in the back or a cloudlifter
@@EposVox Great insight. I'll look into both. I wouldn't mind parting with the existing setup and offsetting the cost of the GoXLR a bit (bring the GoXLR to $200 or so), I'm just not sure how much of an improvement I would expect with one over my current gear.
And indeed, most of my gain does come from the DBS, which is why the dial is maxed. I'm just utilizing the little bit of extra gain I need with the Scarlett, but I'm considering replacing them both for the GoXLR. I'm pretty up close and personal with my microphone, but it does provide excellent results versus being 1 foot away.
Podcastage is the best. Nice to see you watched his videos.
Podcastage is awesome!
If I already have an SM7B and a Scarlett 2i2, would you still recommend I gat a cloudlifter or something similar? I use those both for speaking and singing, and I'm curious to know if it would provide a louder and clearer sound (usually, I have to have the gain up around 75% or so)
The 2i2's preamps are mediocre, I have just got an Audient ID4 MKII and preparing to sell the 2i2 (3rd Gen).
I've got a $500 interface and a $900 interface that I use for audio production. Both of these weren't enough to power the SM7B even with the pre-amps turned all the way up. With just the interface I was getting -18dBFS while talking loudly right up on mic. Ended up grabbing the cloudlifter everyone recommends online today and it's more than sufficient now without having to get close to the mic. I agree that people should invest the right money into it but at the same time Shure really could have made this mic more user-friendly out of the box. I have dozens of mics ranging from $100 to $1,700 and I've never had this experience with a dynamic microphone until purchasing the SM7B,
So over all what interface do you use for it? and do you need a certain software? I'm new at all this; it's really confusing to say the least. Shure could have done better for the price of the mic. Thanks!