As always, thumbs up on the excellent video. Here in the USA many people make what is commonly referred to as a "fire reflector." Many of those people believe that a "reflector" made of logs reflects heat. It is my theory that fire "reflectors" do NOT "reflect" heat. It is my theory that fire "reflectors" are advantageous due to minimizing heat loss thus creating a micro-climate between the fire and the "reflector". And that is why your shelter configuration was so warm with the fire. Your tarp sheltering the area on three sides slowed down heat loss the same way that a fire "reflector" works and created a warmer than normal micro-climate on the three sheltered sides. When sitting on the far side of a fire from a fire reflector the environment is not any warmer or colder whether there is or is not a reflector on the far side of the fire (If there is open space behind the user). The environment is only warmer BETWEEN the fire and the "reflector". That is what makes me believe that the "reflector" does not reflect but rather slows heat loss thus allowing the area between the reflector and the fire to increase in heat. I know many people disagree with me but based on my experiences I believe that I am correct. For these same reasons, it seems to me that your shelter should be warmer due to the tarp walls slowing down heat loss even though your fire was of minimal size. What do you think?
Hi Lonnie, it’s funny because I was just watching your video about failing with the Bowdrill because of to much pressure 👍 when your comment came in. I agree with you. I did lots of test and I guess Felix has even made a video with temperature measurements. In my opinion and experience the reflector behind the fire is protecting the fire from wind and the area around gets a little brighter light. The reflected radiation gets back to the fire and will not reach the person on the other side. But if you have any kind of reflector behind you the reflected radiation will warm you ab. If the reflector behind you has a reflecting coat like a space blanket this effect can be huge, of course only as long as the fire burns. It works even if the sides left and right are open and also of course with less benefit compared to closed sides with the same reflector material. You may not have seen it, the left Tarp has an silver coating so Roman felt warmer than me. About the whole micro climate beneath the construction I’m fully with you. Hope I could explain all understandable with my poor English. To be honest I could discuss this subject, samples and experience with you for hours and I would love to 👍👍👍
@@Taromovies I made a shelter in a video many years ago where I had a small fire in front of me while I sat in a chair with reflective mylar (space blankets) on three sides of me. I was very surprised at the amount of felt heat "inside" that shelter. Even when the fire died down to mostly coals, I could still feel a lot of warmth in the shelter. That helped me to better understand the differences in heat transfer. Heat is transferred through radiation, conduction and convection. Before that, I was under the false assumption that the flames of the fire was what was needed to be warm. I eventually learned that very little heat is felt from the flames when near a fire. Flames produce predominantly convective heat which rises and is lost to the bystander. Coals are what produce the most heat that is felt by a bystander due to a much larger percentage of the heat being transferred in the form of radiation which goes out in all directions rather than predominantly upward as does convection. That is why the long log fire is so efficient in terms of felt or experienced heat versus fuel consumption. In other words that firelay produces a lot of experienced heat over a long period of time with minimal fuel usage. The long log fire firelay maximizes coal exposure towards a bystander while minimizing flames. It has just occurred to me when trying to explain this that the reason why felt or experienced heat is increased when using a fire "reflector" is perhaps at least in part due to the following. When heat is transferred through convection, the air is warmed and then rises and is gone. When air rises, cool fresh air replaces the "vacuum" left behind by the vacating warm air. When a "reflector" is used, it blocks that fresh air from sweeping in from that location. So if a bystander is between a "reflector" and the fire they will feel or experience the heat from the fire and not feel as much that cool replacement air flow. So the quite popular log "reflectors" do not warm a person due to *reflecting* radiated heat as is so commonly believed. Rather the log "reflectors" warm a user in large part through the blocking or minimizing of cool replacement air flow. As you and I have experienced, reflective surfaces DO reflect heat and can be advantageous when used with a fire. But the wood log reflectors really do not "reflect" heat as so many people falsely believe but rather are thermally helpful through totally different dynamics or physics than what is popularly believed.
I appreciate you response so much 🙏 and it’s a pleasure to follow your thoughts Lonnie and it makes absolutely sense to me. It reminds me a little on that there are still people out there who believe that wet stones out of the water explore in the fire because the have water inside, in my book „Feuer machen“ fire making I write one page about it but it seem to be in the heads line the benefits of a reflector behind the fire. There are some but not warming the own body better up.
What a nice setup and that little wood stove looked just right in there. The meals looked good and helps to have a good partner along. Thanks for the video and take care, Al
Hi Al, we had a very good time and all was just right, of course its looks all easy on the video much more than it was in reality 😅 thanks best wishes my friend, Taro
Great setup and atmosphere, thank you Taro for letting us participate! That open shelter with fire in front looked in the dark anyhow like a modern version of an open cave setup, with you two guys cooking and sleeping there inside representing kind of a cavemen 2024 version ... ;-) Joking as usual, of course - but basically, I guess there is even not much difference between us and these guys some 50.000 years back when it comes to comfortably surviving in the outdoors. A good shelter, a formidable fire going, enjoying tasty food, and finally having a good sleep - not much more required to keep us happy. Well, maybe add a beer (or two) to the list ... ;-) Thanks and best regards, Robert
Dear Robert, agree 👍 it doesn’t take much to make a man happy at the outdoors😀 I’m glad you’re joking….thought you compare us with a cave man because we’re looking that old 😅 hope you’re fine my friend, always good to heart from you, best wishes, Taro
Congratulations, Taro. You created a wonderful home away from home. A beautiful setup for your comfort and safety from the elements. I am behind in my videos, but I need to catch up soon. Peace be with you both. Bill
Hi Bill, you’re right, it was nearly luxury camping 😃 I subscribed to your channel in case you find the time for some uploads 👍 wish you all the best, Taro
Ja lieber Sicky, wir haben das Beste aus dem Wetter gemacht und uns einen kleinen Palast gebaut 😀 Danke fürs reinschauen mein Freund und hoffentlich bis bald mal wieder, LG Taro
Servus Taro, das war für mich grad eben perfektes Frühstücksfernsehen. Ruhig und keine Effekthascherei. Tipp fürs kleine Frühstücksfeuer: X-Fire mit der Oberseite nach unten und das Bodenblech auf mittlere Höhe.
Hoi Leo, vielen lieben Dank nochmals, guter Input, in dem Fall haben wir aber auch noch von der Wärme profitieren wollen, hat sich auch schon als Terrassen Grill bei uns bewährt, auch da wie du irgendwo gepostet hast, Upside down und hat perfekt funktioniert 👍👍👍 LG und ein schönes Wochenende, Taro
That seemed to be the perfect shelter for the conditions and surroundings you were in. It was an excellent method of overlapping the tarps in such a way to produce a chimney. Thanks for sharing !
Hi Daniele my friend, yes 3 Tarps is also no problem to carry with two people, this size would be perfect even for 3 people, so each one a tarp like usually, wish you a great weekend, Taro
I enjoy seeing the camaraderie between you and Roman as you make your camp and enjoy your goulash. What a wonderful shelter to relax in, the woods. Thank you for another great video, Taro!
Thanks for watching 🙏 yes the rain had a perfect timing 😀 we could do the setup quite dry and the rain at night was just like a melody to sleep even better, Take care, Taro
Good Evening Taro .. 👍👍👍 .. it's always a pleasure watching one of your posts. 10 days ago? This one slipped past me .. seems to be more common nowadays .. even my 'thumbs-up' does not seem to be working??? 🤨. Your tarp setup .. I have seen something similar on You Tube .. the German Bundeswehr version using a poncho and a heavy duty silver reflective-lined 'emergency blanket'. Their setup was lower, so they built their (smaller) fire into a hole dug in the ground. The Goulash aka 'very thick soup' looked delicious! Soups are simple to prepare and for me, together with my Breakfast Oats alternative, two of the best 😊. Thanks for the share, my friend .. and until next time, take care .. Tommy
Good morning Tommy😊 yes I think I also seen some setups like this but i don’t remember where, maybe at corporals corner. It works well and how you do it, is of course depending on circumstances and materials you have access to. Hope you are well my friend. Thanks for your kind response, always appreciate it 🙏👍 Taro
Thanks for watching and your comment 🙏 yes the Bushman Thermo Tarp is great. Roman felt much warmer on his site because of it. Very durable but knot the smallest when it’s packed and no a lightweight, but in situations like this absolute worth to carry 👍
As always, thumbs up on the excellent video. Here in the USA many people make what is commonly referred to as a "fire reflector." Many of those people believe that a "reflector" made of logs reflects heat. It is my theory that fire "reflectors" do NOT "reflect" heat. It is my theory that fire "reflectors" are advantageous due to minimizing heat loss thus creating a micro-climate between the fire and the "reflector". And that is why your shelter configuration was so warm with the fire. Your tarp sheltering the area on three sides slowed down heat loss the same way that a fire "reflector" works and created a warmer than normal micro-climate on the three sheltered sides. When sitting on the far side of a fire from a fire reflector the environment is not any warmer or colder whether there is or is not a reflector on the far side of the fire (If there is open space behind the user). The environment is only warmer BETWEEN the fire and the "reflector". That is what makes me believe that the "reflector" does not reflect but rather slows heat loss thus allowing the area between the reflector and the fire to increase in heat. I know many people disagree with me but based on my experiences I believe that I am correct. For these same reasons, it seems to me that your shelter should be warmer due to the tarp walls slowing down heat loss even though your fire was of minimal size. What do you think?
Hi Lonnie, it’s funny because I was just watching your video about failing with the Bowdrill because of to much pressure 👍 when your comment came in. I agree with you. I did lots of test and I guess Felix has even made a video with temperature measurements. In my opinion and experience the reflector behind the fire is protecting the fire from wind and the area around gets a little brighter light. The reflected radiation gets back to the fire and will not reach the person on the other side. But if you have any kind of reflector behind you the reflected radiation will warm you ab. If the reflector behind you has a reflecting coat like a space blanket this effect can be huge, of course only as long as the fire burns. It works even if the sides left and right are open and also of course with less benefit compared to closed sides with the same reflector material. You may not have seen it, the left Tarp has an silver coating so Roman felt warmer than me. About the whole micro climate beneath the construction I’m fully with you. Hope I could explain all understandable with my poor English. To be honest I could discuss this subject, samples and experience with you for hours and I would love to 👍👍👍
One more 😅 the reflected heat radiation from the reflector behind you warms your body up and other physical objects not the air
And again 😊 you’ll recognize the silverware coating on the left tarp only in the dark at 08:42 it’s the Bushman Thermo Tarp
@@Taromovies I made a shelter in a video many years ago where I had a small fire in front of me while I sat in a chair with reflective mylar (space blankets) on three sides of me. I was very surprised at the amount of felt heat "inside" that shelter. Even when the fire died down to mostly coals, I could still feel a lot of warmth in the shelter. That helped me to better understand the differences in heat transfer. Heat is transferred through radiation, conduction and convection. Before that, I was under the false assumption that the flames of the fire was what was needed to be warm. I eventually learned that very little heat is felt from the flames when near a fire. Flames produce predominantly convective heat which rises and is lost to the bystander. Coals are what produce the most heat that is felt by a bystander due to a much larger percentage of the heat being transferred in the form of radiation which goes out in all directions rather than predominantly upward as does convection. That is why the long log fire is so efficient in terms of felt or experienced heat versus fuel consumption. In other words that firelay produces a lot of experienced heat over a long period of time with minimal fuel usage. The long log fire firelay maximizes coal exposure towards a bystander while minimizing flames.
It has just occurred to me when trying to explain this that the reason why felt or experienced heat is increased when using a fire "reflector" is perhaps at least in part due to the following. When heat is transferred through convection, the air is warmed and then rises and is gone. When air rises, cool fresh air replaces the "vacuum" left behind by the vacating warm air. When a "reflector" is used, it blocks that fresh air from sweeping in from that location. So if a bystander is between a "reflector" and the fire they will feel or experience the heat from the fire and not feel as much that cool replacement air flow. So the quite popular log "reflectors" do not warm a person due to *reflecting* radiated heat as is so commonly believed. Rather the log "reflectors" warm a user in large part through the blocking or minimizing of cool replacement air flow. As you and I have experienced, reflective surfaces DO reflect heat and can be advantageous when used with a fire. But the wood log reflectors really do not "reflect" heat as so many people falsely believe but rather are thermally helpful through totally different dynamics or physics than what is popularly believed.
I appreciate you response so much 🙏 and it’s a pleasure to follow your thoughts Lonnie and it makes absolutely sense to me. It reminds me a little on that there are still people out there who believe that wet stones out of the water explore in the fire because the have water inside, in my book „Feuer machen“ fire making I write one page about it but it seem to be in the heads line the benefits of a reflector behind the fire. There are some but not warming the own body better up.
That’s what I call Bushcraft Camping in style! Beautiful!
Oh Yes….luxury style 😅👍 thanks for watching and your support 🙏 Taro
What a nice setup and that little wood stove looked just right in there. The meals looked good and helps to have a good partner along. Thanks for the video and take care, Al
Hi Al, we had a very good time and all was just right, of course its looks all easy on the video much more than it was in reality 😅 thanks best wishes my friend, Taro
That X-Fire fire pit looks amazing! Glad that it worked well during your trip
Yes the X-Fire became one of my favorites 👍 perfect for situations like this, thanks for watching and you comment 🙏
Another great time in the forest. Like the fire set up as well.
Thanks for watching and your kind comment 🙏👍
That shelter looks really comfy. The food looks good too. Great work, as always. Thanks for sharing!
Yes we had a very good time, thanks for your kind words my friend 👍
Great setup and atmosphere, thank you Taro for letting us participate!
That open shelter with fire in front looked in the dark anyhow like a modern version of an open cave setup, with you two guys cooking and sleeping there inside representing kind of a cavemen 2024 version ... ;-)
Joking as usual, of course - but basically, I guess there is even not much difference between us and these guys some 50.000 years back when it comes to comfortably surviving in the outdoors. A good shelter, a formidable fire going, enjoying tasty food, and finally having a good sleep - not much more required to keep us happy. Well, maybe add a beer (or two) to the list ... ;-)
Thanks and best regards, Robert
Dear Robert, agree 👍 it doesn’t take much to make a man happy at the outdoors😀 I’m glad you’re joking….thought you compare us with a cave man because we’re looking that old 😅 hope you’re fine my friend, always good to heart from you, best wishes, Taro
Congratulations, Taro. You created a wonderful home away from home. A beautiful setup for your comfort and safety from the elements.
I am behind in my videos, but I need to catch up soon. Peace be with you both. Bill
Hi Bill, you’re right, it was nearly luxury camping 😃 I subscribed to your channel in case you find the time for some uploads 👍 wish you all the best, Taro
@@Taromovies Thank you very much, Taro.
One day, I hope.
Another great video Taro,well thought out set up,gives you better benefits of the heat the fire produces
Yes my friend, it worked just great for this conditions an circumstances, wish you a great weekend, best wishes, Taro
Neulich sah ich Euch beide auf dem Jamboree, jetzt hier im Wald - sehr schön. War sicher ne super Aktion, sah lecker aus Euer Gulasch! LG Sicky
Ja lieber Sicky, wir haben das Beste aus dem Wetter gemacht und uns einen kleinen Palast gebaut 😀 Danke fürs reinschauen mein Freund und hoffentlich bis bald mal wieder, LG Taro
Hi Taro it's great to see you back and with a unique tarp shelter system. All the best to you brother! Simon
Hi Simon, thanks so much my friend, always good to hear from you 👍👍👍
Servus Taro, das war für mich grad eben perfektes Frühstücksfernsehen. Ruhig und keine Effekthascherei.
Tipp fürs kleine Frühstücksfeuer: X-Fire mit der Oberseite nach unten und das Bodenblech auf mittlere Höhe.
Hoi Leo, vielen lieben Dank nochmals, guter Input, in dem Fall haben wir aber auch noch von der Wärme profitieren wollen, hat sich auch schon als Terrassen Grill bei uns bewährt, auch da wie du irgendwo gepostet hast, Upside down und hat perfekt funktioniert 👍👍👍 LG und ein schönes Wochenende, Taro
Thank u, always enjoy your videos, cheers from Oklahoma
Thanks so much for your kind response 🙏👍 best wishes from the heart of Switzerland 👍
Looks like a very fun camping adventure Taro
Yes was nearly like luxury camping 😅👍
That seemed to be the perfect shelter for the conditions and surroundings you were in. It was an excellent method of overlapping the tarps in such a way to produce a chimney. Thanks for sharing !
Yes it was just right and everything worked out nearly perfect 👍 thank for your kind words my friend, have a great weekend, Taro
Hi Taro, Thanks for the interesting setup. Having 3 tarps on hand can definitely lead to some new configurations! Ciao!
Hi Daniele my friend, yes 3 Tarps is also no problem to carry with two people, this size would be perfect even for 3 people, so each one a tarp like usually, wish you a great weekend, Taro
@@Taromovies Thank you, have it too !
Great video! Thanks from America!
Thank for watching and you comment 👍 best wishes from the heart of Switzerland, Taro
Great video, I always really enjoy watching your show
Thank you Ronald🙏 glad you like it 👍
Good video, nice setup and meal , thanks for sharing YAH bless !
Many thanks Michael, have a great weekend 👍
Very cozy
Thank you 🙏
I enjoy seeing the camaraderie between you and Roman as you make your camp and enjoy your goulash. What a wonderful shelter to relax in, the woods. Thank you for another great video, Taro!
Many thanks for taking the time and writing such a kind response 🙏👍 Taro
My pleasure!
This was great, buddy! Thanks very much for taking us along!
Thank you David, glad you like it 👍
Great setup! Glad that it didn't rain too bad overnight. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for watching 🙏 yes the rain had a perfect timing 😀 we could do the setup quite dry and the rain at night was just like a melody to sleep even better, Take care, Taro
Good Evening Taro ..
👍👍👍 .. it's always a pleasure watching one of your posts.
10 days ago? This one slipped past me .. seems to be more common nowadays .. even my 'thumbs-up' does not seem to be working??? 🤨.
Your tarp setup .. I have seen something similar on You Tube .. the German Bundeswehr version using a poncho and a heavy duty silver reflective-lined 'emergency blanket'. Their setup was lower, so they built their (smaller) fire into a hole dug in the ground.
The Goulash aka 'very thick soup' looked delicious! Soups are simple to prepare and for me, together with my Breakfast Oats alternative, two of the best 😊.
Thanks for the share, my friend .. and until next time, take care .. Tommy
Good morning Tommy😊 yes I think I also seen some setups like this but i don’t remember where, maybe at corporals corner. It works well and how you do it, is of course depending on circumstances and materials you have access to. Hope you are well my friend. Thanks for your kind response, always appreciate it 🙏👍 Taro
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Sehr cooles und gut geheiztes Video von! LG Sepp
Danke Sepp, könnte ich gleich dieses Wochenende wieder machen, gibt wieder Dauerregen 😅👍 LG Taro
Absolutely perfect. The whole video encompasses the joy of a tarp shelter and spending time in the forest.
Thank you Mark 🙏 Glad you enjoyed it 👍 have a great weekend my friend, Taro
Nicely done! I'll have to try this! 👍
Thanks for watching and your kind comment, wish you fun by trying it 👍
thanks for this video, i really liked it
Thanks to you for watching and your kind response 🙏
Great video as usual.
Many thanks Matthew 👍
Very cozy, safe and spacious configuration. First time so far, glad to see Bushman thermo tarp, which I also have, in action on YT.
Thanks for watching and your comment 🙏 yes the Bushman Thermo Tarp is great. Roman felt much warmer on his site because of it. Very durable but knot the smallest when it’s packed and no a lightweight, but in situations like this absolute worth to carry 👍
Taro, Nice setup..
Thanks my friend 🙏👍
Very nice my friend😎
Thank you 🙏
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beautiful!
Thanks again for watching 👍
Nice video
Many thanks 🙏
Being from British Columbia Canada if you're not ready for rain you're not ready to be out doors 😂
Hahaaa yes I believe that 🌧️ thanks for watching 👍
@@Taromovies always good to see you posting my friend
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Sehr schönes Video.👍
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Great video!! Did you get any damage to any of the tarps. Any little ember spots?
Thanks for your kind comment. No damage at the Tarps at all. Only the ground sheet, but we took a old cheap one so no problem.