Nostalgia Critic Has a Nostalgia Crisis (Doug Walker vs. The Wall)
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20K? On MY video?? It's more likely than you think!
Thank you so, so much for the flood of support & subscribers. I'm thrilled to have had so many great conversations with folks about Pink Floyd! New video is out November 3rd, and it's one that's been a passion project for months, so I'm quite excited to share it with you. Plus, there's content up on my Patreon as well, including a review of Joker, if that's your sort of thing. New content is lined up and should be coming out at least once a month from hereon out. I've also unlocked channel posts & started a thread where you can recommend video topics. There's no guarantee I'll do any of them, but I'm curious what you folks are interested in seeing. See you soon for the next one, and thanks again!
Hello 👋🏼😷 I really don't know what else to say. other than well said your video is in good light as for nostalgic troll. he wasn't very trufol. an the video and you had so much to say more than nostalgic troll
Hello 👋🏼😷 Yeah I am so glad to be subscribe to your channel. I would be so happy if you subscribe to my small channel, I mean if you want to
I've been goth pretty much my whole life and not much has changed I don't really view goth as a phase as some people put it even as I go through a more feminine phase my goth personality traits still remain.
Your eyes Iz bootifull!! Wut you on about? XD
Also the most pathetic part of dougs jesus memery, is that he doesn't understand the representation of a cross as anything else but religious iconography, in this case the crosses in the movie literally are symbols of loss, regret and war and also tend to show the viewer the intended graves of WWII soldiers who fought and died, but doug is a dumb manchild and a sperg so he doesn't understand simple symbolism XD
Why do I have the feeling Doug has so many problems with The Wall because of the "saw myself in the main character and I didn't like what I saw" thing?
If he did, it was subconscious. I refuse to believe that Dough has the tiny, minuscule amount of self-reflection to consciously think this.
@@CSXIV I think we can all agree he doesn't have it in him to face whatever he'd see head-on.
"What's going on?"
-I'm in this picture and I don't like it
Same with Ctrl-Alt-Del, many people seem to hate it even tho it shares many views those exact same people have about wider gamer culture and how they react
Check out Crash Thompson's take on it. Spoilers: the album made his worst of year list.
Can’t wait for the Nostalgia Critic review of Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band and get angry because of the plot holes in the album.
I wanna see him "review" Yellow Submarine, that would be glorius trainwreck.
@@oninaru Musical Hell did a review of Yellow Submarine before him.
Or he straight up reviews the movie.
I've got a plot hole in me pocket
He better not lol
I don't even care for the movie, but Doug saying that teens are "egotistical" for liking pink floyd without realizing the irony of that statement is truly frightening.
Absolutly! Especially considering Most Floyd Fans are actually between their 40's-50's and the Teens have grown up liking and appreciating Floyd because of the old farts... LIKE ME! My son is 22 now and LOVES Floyd, My Daughter - 21 also Loves Floyd... My Youngest Son... He was listening to Pink Floyd at the age of 6!!!! He is now 11 (Sadly, He is in Foster Care following my wife and I breaking up and her subsequent passing away... ) so I don't know if he is still listening to them.. But yeah! At the age of 6 he was rocking with me to Floyd, Rush and Iron Maiden! UP THE IRONS!
@@Phoenix2312 dude! take your son in and dont just leave him in foster care! the system is notorious for abusing children. hes suffering!
@@snug_as_a_bug Very complicated situation - Trust me if I thought it were feasible, I would have already been back to the courts... But its been too long and he is thankfully in a Good Foster Home.
One area I have been VERY LUCKY... All my children have had good Foster Carers...
And when he hits 21, Man does he have a MASSIVE COMPENSATION PAYOUT AWAITING HIM! (Oh yes, I have information... I could hit them hard, Too long to try and get my son home, but I could sue them as I have evidence of Serious Criminal Wrong Doing by Social Services... But I don't want money... I want Justice! So it will be his if he wants it and wants to pursue it!)
Like I said though Alex, I have been Lucky! Trust me, I know how corrupt the system is... And worse, with this General Election just passed... None of the three Main Parties give two hoots!
I contacted all three Parties... ONLY ONE REPLIED! (That was the Conservatives! YEAH! ONLY THEY RESPONDED!)
I gave them all the evidence of Criminal Activity - And only the tories responded obviously protecting their own! Credit to them though - Even though I HATE THEM... At least they took the time to actually respond!
@@Phoenix2312 oh thank God your not in the US.
My parents are Pink Floyd fans and actually let me see this movie on VHS when I was a kid.
That comment that Doug Walker both hasn’t aged at all yet has aged so much... honestly hit the nail on the head, I realized
His body has definitely aged, but his mind will always remain that of a 15-yr old who thinks he's smarter than his peers.
Torsten Scholz I thought they meant his material
He hasn't aged, the internet has
He’s aged badly, he’s like 50 and still doing the critic.
@@paulmajano He's 40, but yes. Not much less embarrassing.
Let’s not forget, this parody/review was a “love letter to Pink Floyd”.
If that was a love letter to Pink Floyd, this video is a love letter to Doug Walker. 🙄
🤣BWAHAAAHAAA🤣
LOVE LETTER?!?🤣 I bet his death threats sound pleasant if that's a love letter. It mustve been opposite day. Yep, I confirmed with Spongebob and indeed it was.
Love letter like a stalker sending you a letter with cut out letters from a magazine reading “I aM waTChInG YoU.”
More like a letterbomb
🤣
What saddens me the most about this whole thing is that many of those people in Doug's audience will take his word for it and call the film pretentious without seeing it for themselves because Daddy Doug says so. I know this because once, way back when, I was one of those people. *shudders*
Well, it seems to me like you've made a full recovery. It's good to know there's hope.
Eh. Most of the people who are in this rut are kids who are embracing the philistinism of youth, because work which intellectually challenges them scares them. Give them time and if most of them keep up with film as a thing they care about in any way they'll probably turn out fine. I was kind of in that rut for a long time and got out of it. Stuff like cinema sins and the nostalgia critic are mostly watched by kids and kids do grow.
I went through the same exact phase. I'm so glad we got out of it.
@firered sk I'm not saying that at all.
This was the worst NC with his game videos. I'm not gonna watch The Wall because I don't link Pink Floyd, I couldn't care less about Doug's opinions on anything.
He ain't no Weird Al, that's for sure.
Treyworld Weird Al would have done the research and given the respect it deserves. Weird Al actually always asks permission from the original artists to do a parody, even though there is no legal obligation to do so.
...and in The Case of Coolio, Al did Amish Paradise anyway without his permission. It's the only time he did one without permission. The irony is that Gangster Paradise is based heavily on Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise, which ironically was influenced by an earlier work.
@AK Master He probably thinks he did
@AK Master It seems to me like Doug has no idea of how much hard work and intense care Weird Al puts into his parodies. Not just the lyrics are well written, but the songs are very well produced and well performed. When you half ass a song parody, even a little, it comes off as *very* cheesy and lazy.
@@thematt523 okay okay you dont need to blow bubbles on it
What really bothers me is that he skips over “mother” and goes straight from “another brick in the wall part 2” to “goodbye, blue sky” which completely misses the point that the WW2 stuff is actually super important to the character of the mom because it’s supposed to be about how because of the fact that she lost her husband, as well her implied ptsd as a result of the German blitz, she views the world as being dangerous and especially as being dangerous to her son and that she fears losing him like she did her husband which is why she becomes so overprotective and smothering “mama’s gonna put all of her fears into you” and also it completely misrepresents the film and album which is probably how he somehow came upon this insane “school=world war 2” comparison that doesn’t exist on any plain of reality other than the fucking bizarro universe one that he crawled out of.
Erik Berg exactly! Not to mention we find out apparently Pink had a severe illness when he was younger, so I am sure that did help her mental state any. It’s obvious he wasn’t even paying attention to what was going on, and was just trying to make “comedy”.
The whole cycle with Pink and his mom and his wife seemingly got glossed over by Doug. It's like the actual weight of that element and the sexual connotations either were something so far out of his wheel house he ignored or was worried about the rating and his average audience age.
Also interesting that Doug actually monetized the songs on youtube...for music that he didn't even write.
It's okay, it was taken down from Spotify for copyright
Male Tears hahahahaha that brings me a smile
@@MaleTears No it wasn't, I just played it right now to check. But, to be fair and play devil's advocate, that type of parody is actually the type that CAN be considered fair use and can be legally monetized without the copyright's owner permission, since it explicitly makes fun/mocks/critizes the source material. It was a terrible criticism but that's besides the point and doesn't matter. He and the artist he worked with have the right to sell that material and they can have a strong case in court if they ever need to use the fair use defense.
Paul Majano l
just for my own entertainment can someone please sic Roger Waters on Doug? he might be more chill now than when he came for Andrew Lloyd Webber, but it would be the most entertaining thing to come out of the Nostalgia Critic in years
It's ridiculous how Doug thinks the film uses Word War 2 imagery to seem "edgy." Ummmm, maybe it's because Roger Waters' Father died in the war, and he grew up in the aftermath of it?
Also, the album and movie were made less than 40 years after the war ended, so it would've still been in the living memory of tons of people, or at least their parents.
One thing I just realised which seems surreal is that we are currently further removed from the Vietnam War in 2019 than the Wall film was from World War 2 when it came out in 1982.
It felt like Doug has no awareness that World War II was a real event that affected real people and thinks it's only something that gets brought up metaphorically in art to make facile points about evil. I really don't think he sees any difference between The Wall's use of Nazi imagery and, say, the imagery used in Star Wars and Harry Potter. It's all just fandom to him.
@@desida23 I honestly don't think he's really seen in depth films. Much of his earlier critic work was on standard pop culture films.
Doug can't conceptualize that WWII isn't just the backdrop for Captain America's origin story
IDK how he has hired so many actors, prop builders, bought a studio but he still makes all of his visual effects by himself in MSPaint.
Easy. Mike Michaud gave him a budget to do so.
@Cas van der Wal rlm's warehouse does a far better job at being used as a set
He thinks he’s a good editor...he’s not.
He's surrounded by yes men who won't tell him it sucks
Someone should put the "doesn't this remind you of Jesus" over the end of Doug's To Boldly Flee where the Nostalgia Critic literally sacrifices himself, and ascends to save all the inhabitants of his world.
I love the talk about how Pink Floyd actually critizes the school SYSTEM rather than the teacher. For reference, the other day I read an essay written by George Orwell. The title was "Such, such were the joys". And there he talks about what it was like at Crossgates, the prep school he attended. And there, you could get into trouble for pretty much anything. Allow me to quote:
"I had learned early in my career that one can do wrong against one's will, and before long I also learned that one can do wrong with ever discovering what one has done or why it was wrong".
And by getting in trouble at that prep schools which George attended, it meant not only that the teachers could hit him (which they of course did!): It meant a group of older kids were given permission by the teachers to beat up the little kids, to set them straight!
SO.... NOT a problem that could be solved by "growing a pair of balls".
Xarfax321 I know I’m a month late but I just wanna say that Orwell being remembered for Animal Farm and 1984 and not his short stories or other books is such a shame.
Yes but that information would've meant Doug would've had to spent like one second doing research.
What do you expect from someone who compares modern American high schools to post ww2 English schools?
@@katiebayliss9887 Well, I was expecting a movie critic to at least do some research about the subject he was critiquing. Otherwise it would be like trying to review a football game and thinking it's ballet.
Xarfax321 your first mistake was expecting him to do research.
“You don’t have to personally like something to understand that it has artistic merit.”
I love that.
It doesn't though
It sounded like the Cinema Snob cameo broke you lol
It did, lol.
@@LolaSebastian From what I understand, Brad and Doug have been long-time buddies since before Channel Awesome, so he probably will always be biased in favour of the NC. And they live close to each other, so cameos are easier and cheaper... Which sucks. Great review btw!
I feel like Brad and Doug both finally became lost causes after they started shaving their heads. Might be most of their brain cells were stored in their hair.
@@coolsenjoyer They've both became Syd, except without all the tragedy.
The impression you really get, reading Brad's writing, is that he ties himself *really* close to his friends, especially his dude friends. When he had his falling-out with Jake, it basically fucked him up for a year after. I don't like armchair diagnosing people, but I get the sense he just can't bring himself to turn on Doug, even though continuing to stand by him is obviously a shitty and toxic choice. It kinda sucks.
P.S. RIP Harold Bloom, giant of literary criticism. This video was recorded about two weeks before his death so please don't harass me about that Bloom's Guide to Pink Floyd's The Wall joke, thanks.
Cinema Snob is still there for the pay check.
Doug Walker: writes and stars in a 3-hour movie that frames his character as a messianic type.
Also Doug Walker: "This The Wall sure has some presence of Jesus allegory, I'm going to mock it in a nasally voice!"
This video is one of the few to recognize the cyclical nature of the album, which feels like it was pretty blatant in both the movie and album.
'Isn't this where we came in?"
The Wall, that makes people disconnected from society, and able to dehumanize others, cultivating monstrous thoughts...that keep the cycle going.
How Nostalgia Critic missed this?
After watching Folding Ideas, I'm slowly slipping down a rabbit hole of content tearing apart Doug Walker. I'm all for having my nostalgia glasses removed, as someone who had seen a few of his videos in the past, I'm here and loving it.
8:33
Something about the still, proud image of Aslan while Doug Walker screams about Jesus is hilarious
I said this in another video on the review, but...
"The Nostalgia Critic making fun of a scene revolving mental and physical abuse?
Considering the whole controversy Channel Awesome was involved in, I'm not surprised."
The wall literally happened because Waters had a heel-turn epiphany about the kind of person he was becoming.
Doug never had this moment of self-discovery and instead has become the person the wall was written as a warning about...
I think Doug may be the only person who doesn't like Comfortably Numb. How could he hate such a beautiful song? Also, "Comfortably Dumb"....*facepalm ∞*
He replaced the word "wall" with "balls"
That's maturity level 10000
@@askatuproductions Bloodhound Gang did it first on Right Turn Clyde
He’s like an edgy kid who wants to hate things that are popular, because he thinks it makes him unique and cool.
There are better songs by PF though. That's just not the only one
I agree it is cringeworthy as hell. It is like trying to parody Queen's We Are The Champions as We Are The Losers - that is 2nd Grade level joke at best.
Damn not even dignifying him with his character name, busting out "Doug" lmao
she's just throwing the D word around like no ones business XD
Let's be fair: he really is just Doug now. The Critic character is nothing like it was when it started.
"Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo!"
I appreciate anyone dropping the pretense that this is a "character" that he's "playing."
Honestly I'd kinda forgotten his issue with the school sequence was "stop being mean about your teacher being mean to you nobody cares" and that he'd missed the whole thing where it was about the schooling system in general... quick, nobody tell Doug about Matilda! He'll see Miss Trunchbull existing and his head will immediately implode in rage!
Funny you mention it, he hated Matilda and did or wanted to do a NC review of it.
Doug has a hate boner for Matilda, he’s trashed the movie and actors for most of his time on here.
@@alicelostinwonderland7266 and like... matilda is a goddamn classic and its actually aged pretty good
He does actually have a weird hateful fixation on Matilda? Wow, I hate having my jokes be correct! What the fuck _is_ Doug Walker?
It's really bizarre how intensely defensive the guy seems to be about school, that anyone complaining about anything that happened to them there needs to just grow up and stop whining. Was he a bullying victim who is now in denial, or a bully himself? Questions, questions.
unrelated but part of me is really hoping youre gay 'cause damn girl
🅱️erhaps
@@LolaSebastian the gays win again
The B doesnt stand for Bulbassaur yall
@@actualzafra it stands for Les🅱ian
@@stardoogalaxie9314 That makes no sense, the B needs to be at the start of the word!
It clearly stands for 🅱️icycle
Doug literally became the Boomer of the "Ok Boomer" meme.
thank you Folding Ideas for bringing me here
The quick little Hbomerguy insert reminded me that he has some of the most wonderfully memeable clips on the internet.
I absolutely love that the Internet is roasting the hell out of Doug for this, and your commentary is so refreshingly calm
The calmness in this vid is kinda frightening..
1:48 It's funny to think about how that humor aged so poorly. Ask most people who used to be CA fans, and I'm sure you'll get a lot of comments like "It was funny when I was in high school, but 5 years later I just..."
Exactly. It seemed funny when you were an immature kind of edgy teenager but then you grow up. Hopefully.
Cinema Snob has gone completely insane as well. He decided to pick Doug over close friends like Allison and Phelan.
But the real question is... DoEsN’t ThIs ReMiNd YoU oF jEsUs??
I mean it did make me want to crucify Doug so yes.
@@hipsterelephant2660
Lol
My first memory of Pink Floyd is of my dad showing me a clip where they brought children who were in prison on stage to sing Another Brick in the Wall. Hearing Doug Walker “sing” “high school sucks grow a damn pair of balls” is so unbelievably tone deaf and possibly ignorant.
personally, i wonder more why tamara chambers is still hanging out with this dude..
Joe Siemoneit yeah but probably cuz no one goes to watch her videos on her channel
Luca Peyrefitte I did. She seemed like she didn't really know what direction she wanted her channel to go. She's really funny just she needs something to do and another person to bounce off of comedically.
I don’t get why Brad Jones still ties himself to Doug. I know he’s close with the Walker Bros but he was friends with Lupa and Phelous and seemed to dump other Channel Awesome friends to stand by the ego maniac who let his friends get mistreated. It’s a shame because I like the Snob content
I cringed when he appeared in this "The Wall" review.
@@CatLives9 Yeah. He's better than that.
Who knows? Maybe Michaud has some dirt on him?
Meh, personally I feel like there's better reasons to boycott CA over whatever happened with the controversy. I didn't care to delve into it because it basically boiled down to a, "he said, she said" BS. There was nothing that seemed that bad to me, unprofessional as fuck? Sure but what do you expect when it's amateur film makers making filler content for people on the internet??
That being said, Brad is obviously funnier than the whole CA crew.
As for the "review". I think Doug is a sniveling conformist, he doesn't like being challenged and likes accessible music. His movie reviews are more on point than this sorry excuse, each track from the cover is just him missing the point entirely.
It's as if he could never get PF and always harbored ill-will to "pretentious" music.
His jokes are the same tired tropes that his videos have always displayed.
This review feels like the byproduct from a 14 year old who has no love for older music, doesn't care to understand.
@@alienalibi2382 but that shit wasn't amateur, CA was a company making money and you would think after Doug and co being around for so long they could manage something better than torturing everyone over a 4 hour fucking movie made with the skill and production value of a 13 year old (they had one camera..ONE) however you define amateur/professional/legitimate (terms certainly open to subjectivity given the rapid growth and evolution of online content) the fact is by that point the standards should have been higher...I mean it works out because I guess doug didn't really need them and they don't really need Doug (ask Lindsay Ellis how she's doing), I haven't watched his content for years but he strikes me as someone horribly outdated
I am a 42 year old man, I have been listening to Floyd since I was 10, The Wall was my first introduction to Floyd.
I used to be a big fan of channel awesome until #changethechannel came about, my eyes were open to how terrible the majority of the individuals on channel awesome are.
After seeing this "review/parody" on my favourite album of my favourite band??? I was disgusted by their actions previously, this fills me with rage, I absolutely detest Doug Walker and channel NOT-SO-AWESOME for this blasphemy!!!
i;m 40. was introduced to Pink Floyd pretty late at 20, with Dark Side of the Moon, then The Wall. music like this weren't easy to come by where i live, and Pink Floyd changed my life. still listening today.
really, really, really glad i never watched a single channel awesome or Walker's vid.
the garbage takes highlighted here is quite enough.
You did Mother well.
Thank you
12:58 I disagree with the open vagueness ending. The wall ends with a small child disarming a molotov cocktail while the "Outside The Wall" lyrics give you a warm felling of hope. In the album, the final "Isn't this where..." matches perfectly with the "...we came in" (U4m3-airyNw) at the start of the album, best. infinite. album. ever.
Great Video.
I have just discovered the "analysing Doug Walker, his refusal to grow up and the disappointment of former fans" genre, and honestly, it's captivating
I can't imagine how awful it must be to watch Monty Python's Life of Brian in the same room as Doug Walker.
"OMG, DoEsN't tHiS ReMiNd YoU oF jEsUs?!?!?!?"
A hbomb reference
Clearly i have come to the right corner of the internet
We former Channel awesome viewers grew up and watch left tube now like ADULTS.
Bc queen Lindsay.
i guess we all just followed her out the door
though id question "adults" :P
paul clayton
The _left_ corner, more like
Yes a guy who doxxed and harrassed many on the site of Metokur, what a guy
This video and JAR media’s video made me appreciate The Wall more and hate nostalgia critic more, good vid.
Thanks to Doug’s big-brain-takes video, I’ve listened to The Wall (the real one) twice in the past few weeks, having never done so before. And I fucking love it.
Even a massive pile of shit can help grow some flowers!
@@neal2399
He didn't realize he was just bringing more people to not only be Pink Floyd fans but now Roger Waters is gaining more sympathy for what he been through
For that I'll thank Doug for being a complete xenophobic silver spoon egomaniac
One of the worst things about Doug's "love letter" was how he dragged other actually good artists like FENNAH down into the burning trainwreck with him
Big agree, I think it might be the worst thing Sam has up on his channel right now
Not to mention the total waste of Corey Taylor. They had him there the entire time but he does practically nothing, except sing the Spongebob theme, isn't that awesome (Spoiler: No, it's not)?
I mean, Fennah's just as egotistical as Doug, let's be real here. He willingly animated that train wreck, so he essentially dug his own grave.
Sylvia Stone Calling Sam as egotistical as Doug is rather unfair. I mean, you’re right, Sam does have an ego but unlike Doug, he actually has talent that justifies it. Furthermore sam’s ego doesn’t prevent him from treating his fans, voice actors, and others in general with respect, which is also very unlike Doug. Other than that infamous goldfish scene, and getting a little defensive when people call him furry or justifiably frustrated when people assume he has certain fetishes due to his work/assume his character’s opinions=his opinions, what has he done to be anyway compared to Doug? Ignore people who just say “edgy” and “deviantart OC” at his work so he can respond to meaningful critique? As for animating the trainwreck that’s just the life of artists and entertainers, to get your name out there you have to say yes until you can say no. He got the offer and did what was requested, doesn’t mean he enjoyed it.
@@bionicsouthernbelle1539 I dunno, I lost interest in satellite city when I realized the wiki was always going to be larger than the story shown. Sam honestly came off as an abrasive dick in a few of his comments, and some of his designs honestly make my eyes hurt with how overly detailed they are.
I get that they are supposed to be what you’d see while reading Dr Seuss on ketamine, but some of it is just to far.
If you like it, that’s great, but I lost interest in it I’m sorry to say. I hope I communicated my reasoning well enough.
Thanks to the UA-cam algorithm for picking this up and for the comments/support! I'm floored by how many views this is getting. If you guys would like to hear the full version of that cover, it's a few years old and not high quality, but I could totally post it.
Yeah! Post it!!! I like the N.C. old stuff, but I totally agree with you on this.
Ms. Lola since you’re interested in mental illness you should check out my book, it took about ten years to write and I’m selling it on amazon. It’s called Babylon’s Final Hours and it’s about a schizophrenic king ruling a kingdom in the apocalypse
"welcome to my channel, this is my asmr video criticizing Doug Walker" lol'd and subbed
Post it! I love your sense of humour in this video btw!
Do it, bro. We need more Floyd.
"I grew up on the west coast, but during the height of the Katy Perry, 'California Girl,' popularity; I was far from. I was more of a uh, *grimaces* wanted to be goth but couldn't quite because goth was no longer super popular kinda girl..."
I feel called out
Seriously though, just found you and I love what I've seen so far (possibly because I seem to have very similar taste; you'll be joining my sub box with Lindsey Ellis, Jenny Nicholson, and hbomberguy lol).
Me too xD also my parents wouldn't have approved of me dressing super goth and I was despite everything, kind of a wuss. Ironically now I appreciate 2000s and early 2010s era pop music, something I was too snobbish to appreciate before.
In case anyone hasn't answered your question on the Cinema Snob/Brad Jones, Brad basically stayed with CA unironically after the revelations the Change the Channel. No one really knew why, but it was speculated it was out of his friendship to the Walkers. Fast forward months later & Brad answered why in an interview &, basically, he boiled down everyone's complaints to whining about trivial things, then after that he & his wife did a livestream where they blamed Obscurus Lupa for people apparently sending them death threats & finding his grandma's address, as well as a police officer being sent to cheeck on Brad because someone apparently prank called the police saying he was suicidal. All of which both haven't been proven to have even happened, but, if they have, there's no way they were Lupa's fault. No one knows exactly why Brad stayed with CA, but also no one cares because he's shown himself to be an asshole either way.
Didn't he also compare a member's suicide to Logan Paul mocking a suicide victim and said "he didn't get criticized" uh Logan Paul lost millions of subscribers and is still hated for that
@@Chuck_EL No. He compared the people at CA getting called out on their horrible shit to Logan Paul filming a dead body. The suicide was only related to that in terms of it being JewWario who did it & CA was partly being called out for the fact that he was grooming underage female fans of his & didn't tell anyone after he died.
This is the only review video of this that inserts a reference to the "how could you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat", therefore its objectionably THE best one.
I mean, the super-good, informative critiques and the enjoyable presentation are big pluses too, but hey.
6:50 "And clearly way too mature for you at any age, Doug!"
oof. that's wonderful.
I'd surprised if in a few years Doug would look on back his "so called review" of The Wall and think/say "wow, that's the worst thing I've made since Demo Reel".
To boldly flee was- and always will be the worst thing he has ever made.
@ULGROTHA Doug shows serious indices for being a narcissist imho: Unable to take criticism, always smug and pretentious and thinking he's better than anyone else, always pushing himself into the middle of everything and basically just behaving like the biggest egomaniac ever. He should better retire from making videos before he ends up in the same way as Spoony.
I gotta give a big round of applause to people who analyze this "Review/tribute" to The Wall. Indicating that they sat through every excruciating minute of it. I can't watch three seconds it hurts so bad.
First of all, this is a really nicely done video ^_^
As for why Brad Jones is still hangs with them - well, I don't know what is Brad's exact reasoning (becides obvious "we are long-time friends" and "they have over a million subs" ), but after his interview with Double Toasted where he basically went "LOL, so CA sucked, grow a damn pair of balls" and him trying to blame Allison (Obscurus Lupa) for the bullying that he apparently received for sticking with Walkers, he pretty much burned bridges with many of his former frequent collaborators, like Phelous and Linkara. And, I think, there's only one guy left from the group of his friends that were featured in his videos before.
Also, somewhere around the start of CtC Brad started crowdfunding his new movie and I remember his former colleagues reposting links to it and to his crowdfunding streams (because back then they all said "he has a right to stay on the site, it's all good"). Movie was recently released. It has lots of jabs about CtC and features Walker brothers, Rob in one of main roles even, and none of the other former producers. I feel sorry for the people who gave him money because they wanted to support producers after CtC and got this as a result.
So yeah, he is Brad Walker now, the third Walker brother.
damn, that's depressing :/
Ouch!
Sorry, that's all I can say by now about this douche.
I can't even watch his videos now. It seems like every Cinema Snob episode has a "joke" where he talks about internet trolls. Christ. This sounds like a mainstream news outlet trying to describe what an internet is to old folks. Also, the fact that he's now doing these video essays akin to Doug has me believed that CA has brainwashed him. The Snob is gone. End of story.
I kind of agree, if it sucked, you don't have to stay. Go ahead and rat them out, but if you expect anything from it then you're delusional as fuck. They are all amateurs. for as much experience as Phelous has editing, he's still an amateur. If you're not getting paid, getting the recognition and being treated like shit... Why even stay? lmao. It's evident they're all looking for money rather than anything with artistic merit, I mean, don't they all do reviews essentially?
Jody Barker - At least I can tell that Brad’s work has much more self-awareness than Doug’s.
I haven't been keeping up with Nostalgia Critic so I didn't know he was "remaking" movies in his reviews, but I knew he was incorporating more and more skits in his videos. So when I stumbled upon his review of The Wall it took some time before realizing he was not reviewing it but remaking it. Needless to say I felt incredibly frustrated watching this. When it goes to Another Brick in the Wall and he's doing that awful Dracula voice I couldn't take it anymore and stopped watching. I felt like I had been trolled into watching this movie when I was expecting him to pick it apart and crack some jokes. Also this guy is waaaaaay too opinionated. I understand it's impossible not to have an opinion but he really knows how to alienate an audience. Even the Angry Video Game Nerd, who has a hatred for LJN games, recognizes sometimes things fly under his radar that are actually enjoyable. His LJN hatred is perfectly understandable, but he still showed some humility when a fan asked him to play Spider-Man Maximum Carnage for SNES. It wasn't a terrible game and James Rolfe could acknowledge it. But Doug's ego has become so bloated he'd rather attack his fans for any criticism or disagreement.
Dracula voice? It's more like a Count Chocula voice. Dreadful.
Rachael Ruud I was thinking the count on Sesame Street but that would be an insult to the count!
Same, I just can't take it with his skit reviews, that's why I just watch the old stuff where he actually reviewed shit.
on paper it would seem that trying to change and evolve would result in better outcomes than never changing and becoming stale...yet if you look at Doug vs James, James tends to come out on top. I think this is because it seems that Doug wants to change and evolve but he just can't...either because of a lack of skill (we all saw how demo reel turned out) so instead he tried to mash NC with his actual aspirations and it turned into this mess of a thing where he probably just doesn't want to be NC anymore but is in too deep, I mean people still watch it so I guess its working?...whereas James kept consistently doing what he was doing (with some offshoot series)
@@91Vault You know what they say, do not fix what's not broken.
The worst thing about Doug is that every once in a while he has a joke that is kinda funny, or at least some of his older videos where funny-ish, albeit in a very outdated way.
But I guess a broken clock is right twice a day
And subbed. Superb analysis and great editing. You might just become the next Lindsay Ellis. 😊
This is a HUGE compliment. Thank you so much!
Cinema Snob sold his soul (Or what remained of it) to Doug a long-ass time ago.
He was one of the only ones who stayed after the Change The Channel document was released.
Thing about that whole "I'm Jesus" bit is that it's a recycling of one of his previous jokes for Man of Steel, where that criticism was actually legit since that film was that tactless and heavy-handed about it (not to mention ignoring Superman's Jewish roots).
Which brings me to yet another issue about NC's Wall review, in that he copy-pastes jokes from his previous videos regardless of whether they still work in context. Like he also, out of nowhere, recycles his jokes about 90s commercials capitalising on rebellion for 'Another Brick in the Wall', and it just comes across as really shoehorned in
Superman's Jewish?
@@daanimegoatman6683 the creators were. idk much about the comics themselves and if there are any explicit Jewish references or themes in them, though.
@@LezbeOswald and the creators said hes inspired by Moses not Jesus, as Moses he was adopted by a family after his parents put him in a basket/spaceship as a baby
Its gonna be cool in a year when I get to say I was an early fan
It is sad seeing NC fall so hard considering how he influenced a lot of my initial interest in media criticism. They used to be pretty fun and the quality just dropped so horribly either as he tries to hard to stick to tropes or my opinion on things started to mature.
Why not both.
Ethically sourced roasting of Doug Walker? *hits subscribe*
In all seriousness though, I think it was the Matrix review that made me permanently give up on him, particularly the ending? He'd made transphobic jokes in the past, but then he doubled down on it around the time we started to gain actual visibility. It was kinda amazing to scroll down and see comment after comment calling him out on how unnecessary/reaching it was.
As a fellow Pink Floyd fan, I have to say that Doug not liking The Wall is not the problem. Honestly, it took me almost three years to even like the thing, let alone love it and rank it highly in the band's discography. The problem is the arrogance in his intellectual dishonesty, mocking Waters' upbringing, accusing the songs of being Oscar bait when the music was written before the film - things like that that anyone daring to call themselves a critic would never do.
The singing sucks, too.
Your review of this "review" is on point, though. Great analysis. I also really liked your Lolita as a big Nabokov fan.
I just discovered your channel and I think you’re brilliant. Keep up the good work.
the wall helped me so much in high school. it helped me realize that my mental health was suffering from things like isolation and childhood trauma and allowed me to take the steps to recover. and then to have doug just be like "nah bruh the album is pretentious" and write it off just shows his capabilities (or lack there of) to critically review movies. like, I always though the nazi part of the wall was brilliant. it showed how destructive isolation can be to ones own self and those around them, but of course, doug just saw it as "oh those kids don't like trump lol lets tweet about it" is just kind of lame. im glad im not the only one who saw the bs of this review
Been binging responses to that mess of a review, just subscribed.
I actually found The Wall when I was 30. I had a huge upheaval in my life and a resulting mental breakdown. It was coincidentally right around when Roger Waters was doing the tour, and I finally checked it out. I absolutely credit it with keeping me functioning for a while. There's nothing "teen angsty" about trauma or mental health. (although I did have the 'crying on the floor to Depeche Mode' period of my life as well, haha)
Also I can't believe he's not being purposefully dumb with the "ARE YOU COMPARING WWII TO HIGH SCHOOL??" nonsense. Considering the film adds "When the Tigers Broke Free," which is practically holding the viewer's hand explaining what happened with Pink/Roger's dad. There's some things that I could see being confusing, but the WWII parts are absolutely not that.
The core message of the Wall is how we set up barriers to communication with others, and the hate, coldness, and isolation that results.
What’s funny is that the whole “In the Flesh” parody could have worked if the following criteria were filled:
1. Change the authority figure into a caricature of an Internet personality that feeds off of drama (i.e. Keemstar). Make the song about how cancel culture can be misused, like with what happened to Spoctor.
2. Have another person do this parody. Doug is way too knee deep in past actions that he has been called out for to make any actual judgements against cancel culture.
3. Use the parody as a part of an overarching story to show how people can get into that kind of mindset.
Personally, I feel like the parody could have worked, but the whole “person you hate” bit and #ChangetheChannel undertones makes the whole thing feel petty.
People should be able to make anything they want at any age - but I can’t stress enough how painfully embarrassing it is for this grown-ass man to still be making “lol haterz” jokes at his big age.
cracked dot com and channel awesome really formed a lot of my individuality complex because i was the only one in my 6th grade class that had a hot take about the mad-max/the never ending story multiverse
Exactly. The 'leave kids alone' is not 'stop teaching them' but 'it's wrong to take out your issues on those who cannot defend themselves against you'. I also read this, and the visual representation of the school as an example of an authoritarian system. 'Obey and ask no questions, or you'll get punished and humiliated'. The message was 'we don't need THIS TYPE of education'. Education that tells people that they have no value, that it's ok to hurt others when they're weaker than you. That it's ok to strip someone of their dignity.
Also It was hilarious of him to call the movie pretentious and full of itself, when he made approx. 3 hours long vanity project himself. And that he nowadays makes his review those boring, unfunny skits that are all about him Like Haruhi from Ouran Host Club said "People that don't look at themselves are scary"
The only highlight of Doug making that video was this video.
So this is officially your first video? Nicely done. It's rare that I find a channel with quality content so early on. I stopped watching NC when he started doing these damn sketches, instead of simply reviewing movies. When Obscurus Lupa dropped the bombshell about what was happening behind the scenes, I wasn't really surprised, but I was disappointed. Then when Cinema Snob attacked Allison a few months ago, with he and his wife claiming that she had her fan base swat them, I completely washed my hands of his channel as well. Damn shame, too. I really liked CS, although I never understood why he stayed with Channel Awesome.
I feel like The Wall review has marked this explosion point where a lot of us former NC fans (when we were teenagers) are finally able to fully articulate all of the things he's terrible at. Like we denied it even after we changed the channel because admitting he was so talentless somehow meant we would have to live that down, but it's been a sweet release to finally speak up about every problem we knew he had.
And thank you for pointing out the big one. He would always harp on actors' singing, all the time. And the annoying thing was he acted with AUTHORITY about it - never just, "that sounds unpleasant," but always as though he knew some technicality or had a trained ear.
And wow is he a bad singer. I can tell he's maybe practiced a little because he seems to know what breath control is, but holy shit does he not play to whatever strengths he might have. The texture of his voice is naturally shrill, which really shouldn't matter if you know how to use it, but he's either leaning way too heavily into it or not aware of it at all and it sounds terrible. Even in the skits where tries to use a natural baritone he sounds way more like Russell Crowe than he seems to realize.
From what I remember from one of his earliest videos (like back when he first started out), he stated he was a tenor and actually had some decent control of his voice (as he demonstrated with a quick bit of opera); I assume he got into it because I think his mother was an opera singer at one point? I forget, it's been a while.
I don't know if he's just not using his skills because he wants to focus more on trying to be comedic or he's just not practised in the last few years, but there is a stark difference from those quick snippets and even a couple of his earlier reviews where he sang.
His Moulin Rouge review shows that he CAN sing well, but CHOOSES not to, and that baffles me.
Watch out for the commentators who'll will come on here and say "Even with all the criticism,you can poke fun at the things you love." In response to people correctly thinking Doug's review isn't in any way a form of a love letter.
They're swarming other channels talking about NC's Wall Review.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but I’ll say it again here. Everything about NC’s The Wall rubs me up the wrong way. It’s so nakedly unaware of, well, anything that not even a mindless computer algorithm could have shat it out. As someone who used to watch The Nostalgia Critic, I hate it. As an occasional Pink Floyd listener, I hate it. As a prog fan, it absolutely disgusts me.
Nostalgia Critic? HA HA, CHARADE YOU ARE!
On the cinema snob thing, he stuck by Doug through the controversy and his response was: "well if Logan Paul got away with his shit we can too"
I stopped following Doug Walker a while ago. Just like you, it was fun to point out plot holes, but eventually you just outgrow the childish view. You want to listen to people who have a brain. I'm glad that Lindsay Ellis left that place. She's too good for that trash.
Thank you for uploading this. You're a great youtuber, i appreciate you!
Something else I noticed while watching this is just how hypocritical Doug was with the whole "Nazi symbolism" thing. He complains about the kids being taken away on a train as an unneeded Nazi comparison (which even then I'm sure it's like what you said about the slaughterhouse train representation) but then with the whole HASHTAG bullshit, he's literally comparing social media to Nazis. It's the only time he does an actual parody song in the whole review, and it's essentially what he was complaining about before!
Also, nice video and I love your editing too. Keep up the good work ^^
Hah i hit the Depeche Mode so hard this summer
I dont like Pink Floyd, and have zero interest in them. But I get them.
And that review was awful, NC interpreted every single lyric as being literal. For someone who pokes at symbolism in movies all the time, it's like he didnt even listen to the music. Just read out the lyrics and started trying to make it "funny".
If you really think about it the appropriate approach for a parody of the wall would actually be about Doug himself.
Think about it, you could dramatize each of the segments to be about a certain part in his career.
The "education" segment could be about the sea of content that UA-cam is and how hard it is to stand out. "We don't need no algorithm" or something along those lines. This big faceless poorly communicating entity that removes videos and their producers seemingly in a whim. Which Doug whatever to escape
Culminating with "in the flesh" where Doug comes out as the leader of channel awesome ironically becoming part of the very thing he tried to escape. An entity which removes videos and producers with reckless abandon with obvious bias towards certain content.
Spot on lady, for someone who's fanatical about Pink Floyd like me you got a much better understanding of the Wall than Doug fucking Walker. I think Doug Walker needs a good rebuking from Pink Floyd fans who will hopefully educate him and help him understand what the Wall album is all about.
A Review about the Nostalgia Critic without screaming ???
WHAT IS THIS ?!?!?!?!?
Brad and Doug are still best friends. The one time Brad addressed the Change The Channel controversy he totally threw the former content creators under the bus, claiming that their concerns were petty and inaccurate. This ultimately led to him and Alison aka Lupa having a falling out.
Allison also removed every video she ever did with Brad from her channel. That means I can never watch the It’s Pat review ever again. :(
Crossover with Hat Dan when
not sure if someone answered this, but to answer your question why CinemaSnob is still with Doug
it's because he has expressed his support and loyalty to the walker brothers in interviews, making comments like how CA will still mange after the controversy and compares it to the controversy Logan Paul got himself into when he filmed in Japan.
suffice it to say, Brad is TeamWalker to the end and will stay by their side even after everything CA has done to his former colleagues and what CA has tried to cover up
10:13 "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat" killed me
Actually, To Boldly Flee is even LONGER than Titanic by a good 20 minutes.
Heaven's Gate, a movie spanning several decades about a county war in the wild west, is just a few minutes shorter than To Boldly Flee, but that movie had a reason to be long as fuck. TBF didn't. That movie's run time alone gave me the feeling that he has such a huge fucking ego that eventually came crashing down on him.
Free The Cinema Snob
It's funny you make a joke about Doug being like "oh my god, doesn't this remind you of Jesus" over a picture of Aslan, because one of his earliest videos was just a clip of Aslan saying "because I'm Jesus". He really does think pointing out obvious Christan symbolism is good commentary
His review made me listen to the album instead, it's so cringy
I remember when I dropped off watching his videos. Disneycember I think it was called, so many of the videos ended with the thesis along the lines of:
"it's not for everyone, but it is for some people, and if you are one of those people, you might like it."
You don't say?
No one knows how Jenny does it... Not even Jenny! XD
The Nostalgia Critic's terrible video did have one positive effect for me... I've watched a bunch of new creators criticizing his video, including you, and I am now a subscriber! Looking forward to watching more of your stuff!
It should have been obvious that all the WW2 imagery was because Roger Waters came of age in Post-WW2 Britain. Not only did his father die in the conflict, Waters would have grown up surrounded by adults who had fought in the war and remembered its darkest days, survived the horrors of the Blitz and all that. For America, the war ended when Germany and Japan surrendered, but for the rest of our allies, it went on much longer. Their countries were left as bombed-out ruins, and they had to rebuild. The war was all over the place in Europe, whereas with the exception of Pearl Harbor, the war remained overseas for Americans. It’s why rationing ended in America as soon as the war ended, but Britain was under wartime rationing for nearly a decade afterwards.
I wonder if this is the product of the romanticization people have developed about WW2, because here’s the thing: no one was calling it The Good War while it was actually being fought. During the war, peoples’ thoughts were the same as any other: can we win this? Are our boys going to come home? People only started calling it The Good War when Vietnam went to hell.
Too correct, you are. Incisively valid rebuttals throughout. Quality laughs to boot. Much respect for refusing to join the dogpile of vitriolic overreaction so many have already offered up in worship to their eldritch puppeteer, the dread horror Alg-R'Thm.
Loved watching your videos. Very thoughtful and well said, but it wasn't til i saw your dirty blinds that so perfectly matched mine that i commited to subscribing. Lol. Please keep creating. Your voice and perspective is a welcome addition to UA-cam.
I've been kind of snooping around after watching this "review" that Doug put out, seeing what other people thought of it. I'm really glad to see that people are seeing him as the hypocrite he is, alongside his extremely poor analytical skills that's been on display for almost a decade now. I don't normally post comments on these kind of videos with my band channel, but since it's loosely related to Pink Floyd (huge influence on me for really thinking on how to expand music), it's one of the few times that I do outside of other musician channels.
With that said, I do appreciate the fact that someone from the younger generation (younger than me) is taking a jab at it and proudly standing tall against the hypocrisy and negativity of Doug Walker. He's someone I used to appreciate as a laugh or two when I was younger, but fell out of favor from 2012 and beyond when he began to do skit heavy things that just weren't funny. With The Wall "review," it just feels like he honestly didn't understand the source material, or he's just angry that the album and movie still resonates with people who have mental health issues. It's 45 minutes of just nothing but constant bashing and mocking it, calling it pretentious, when (and I don't mean to brag here or anything of the sort) as someone who writes lyrics myself, I have no desire to really think about other people's issues. Instead I want to reveal my own issues in a way that lets them see the grand scheme of how complicated mental health is, how it can deteriorate your life and send you plummeting down into rock bottom.
That is the beauty of music alone, to portray what you are going through and then spin it around into something that can be picked apart, evaluated, and appreciated by people who are well outside of those who are struggling as well.
I'm slightly embarrassed that this post is so long, but thank you for putting it in a perspective from a teen! (or young twenty year old, not judging here)
How are you so patient with this guy? I used to be a Nostalgia Critic fan, but now when I see him in someone else's reviews, I feel the urge to punch my monitor.
I, sadly, think he believes he’s hitting new creative highs when he puts out work like this.