TFS: How To Build A Forward Facing Turbo Manifold Part 1
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2016
- One of the most difficult projects for a beginner is broken down pipe by pipe in this episode of #TFSBoostFab. Building aturbo manifold requires a thorough understanding of concept, design, function, and a bit of artistic flair to complete. Justin the Fabricator breaks it all down in an easy to follow process in Part 1 -the Mock-up.
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I really appreciate your long-form approach to education. You're clearly going beyond the concepts and fully unpacking your methodology and application with aplomb. Internet high five!
Thanks!
@@TheFabricatorSeries quick question I'm no fabricator but would it not have been easier to put the two flanges closest to you on the ends left and right and then the two flanges in the front straight onto the second and third part on the head or do all four have to be kind of equal shape etc... It just seemed much easier to do it that way... I'm no fabricator though. Just found your channel subscribed and have watched 4 or 5 videos so far. Excellent CONTENT 👌 and EXCELLENT in depth EXPLAINING!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
You are like the Bob Ross of Welding. Making happy little bends. I could watch this all day.
Bob Ross of fabrication!!! Much respect to you and the work you do. Lots of info and detail in each video. Thanks for sharing you knowledge!!!!
By far, my favorite UA-cam channel. Thank you for sharing your skills and time! Keep these videos coming!
Joel Clear Part 2 will be up in a couple hours.
Finally more content worth watching, thanks for your work Justin.
No prob. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for taking our ears into consideration!! The balance between the intro and your voice is much better as well.
Great work as always, can't wait for pt. 2.
Peace!
Preston Vandivier I have a much better editor now haha. I also edit with headphones on just to make sure.
42 minutes of education? Fuck yes.
Thanks!
#pornhub
Awesome videos man. Inspiring me to add a turbo setup to my inline 6 in my jee tj. Thank you for your time and detailed explanations
Great content! Really interesting to see how much work it is and how one can go about addressing the challenges of building a manifold.
Thank you!
I'm really enjoying this boostfab series, thanks for making the videos.
No prob. Thanks for watching!
You've earned masses of respect from me. Excellent.
Absolutely love your videos. Can’t stop binging on them and found this one particularly useful as I aim to fabricate my own manifold. Question though- is there any calculation in your design with regards to flows, equal lengths etc etc.
Great video and fabrication, thanks!
This is amazing and very confidence inspiring thanks for taking the time!
Thanks for watching!
Another great video ! I personally love the longer videos , much more in depth and easier to follow (for me anyway )
Norman Murray Thanks Norman. Both styles will be common but I have more full length vids still to post instead of fast fab in the near future.
Your mic placement is awesome. Every time you move the turbo around it sounds like The Hulk taking a step!
My favorites:
3:18
3:26
You've earned masses of respect from me! Excellent.
Thank you!
seriously....ty for the noise alert! these videos are awesome
You're welcome.
you have a awsome operation going! keep it up
Thank you!
awesome video as always! I really do appreciate the effort & lengths you go to for us the viewer to see every little detail as possible, while sharing all you knowledge as well. just a quick question...did the lengths of the runners end up all the same lenght in the end? Thanks again & keep up the great work!
They ended up being the same pulse length. the actual length varied on each runner.
Отличное видео брат! excellent video bro!
you have a thematic channel and seen that many people are turning to you. Good luck in the development!
Thank you!
Really enjoy this video. What websites do you order your materials from? Im curious where you order your collectors from
love your videos bro. a machinist ruler would be a great help if you have limited space measuring to do welding on the car.
Good work! Keep it up.
Thank you!
Where r u at I would love for you to make a top mount turbo mani for my b series engine how do I get a hold of u. Thanks
You mentioned a refferance line. Bang on the way to receate away form the car. Makes tacking up much easier and allows you to proceed with the next step with out having to be an octopus!
This is fantastic stuff, thanks!!!
Thanks for watching!
Amazing work as ever. Summit racing used to (may still do) sell a kit that had all plastic elbows that clip together and can be adjusted all sorts of angles and when you have a full mock exhaust shape complete they can be taken apart in sections to use as a direct template to mark cut lines on the metal pipe sections
Iceengineworks make the plastic kit
Looks like the pipes under my house 😂😂👍 idk how to make em so w.e. lol very informative. Nice.
Suggestions on where to get the elbows and dimension? Thanks
Sounds great to me!
You do awesome work bro. Wish I could have you do the rollcage in my jeep
If you could find a way to get it to the shop in Vegas, I can build it.
I did most of my fab work in Phoenix, hot as hell, just like Vegas. I welded in short sleeves until I got flash burns on the tops of my biceps. I took a cue from the landscapers and roofers... and started wearing long sleeves. Don't confuse hot, sweaty and uncomfortable with overheated. Get some sleeves on your arms.
I agree with Kevin, burns from welding, is no fun at all and a hell of a lot more uncomfortable than being hot from wearing the correct welding gear.
You have an awesome channel. There are not a whole lot of people that actually go into as much detail as you do while doing a great job explaining what, when, why, and how. I have a question. Why do you always use stainless steel? Is it for looks, heat or anything? I noticed on alot of things you used stainless. Like exhausts and things also.
Probably because it doesn't rust.
Amazing stuff. Did you perhaps ever make a manifold for a Ae82/Ae92 or Ae111?
i could use a tip. i'm building a set of turbo manifolds for a vh45 soon using schedule 10 304 pipe. designing and welding i have down fine (aerospace welder/fabricator) my question is, the motor has oval ports so, would i be better forming the pipe to an oval shape or blending a circular transition into my flange?
I like the longer version and detailed explanation
What filler rod are you using for these 304 weld els?
Awesome love it!!!
Thanks!
First of all I've been watching your channel for a long time and your videos are the best hands down. They even helped me weld in my own wheel tubs! My question is did you use 304 or 304L?
cjsjodin Thanks for watching! My vendor stocks 304L. I've used both in the past with no noticeable difference. One thing I suggest checking out is the pic of the product. Some will state "304" in the description, but show (and ship) 304L in the pic. It makes almost no difference unless you're really picky, but if it makes or breaks your decision, double check the picture of the product. You ultimately just want it to take the heat and not rust while maintaining strength.
love the videos! where do you get your tuning supplies? thanks
I buy them wholesale. A quick search online should net hundreds of vendors.
I really want to get into this kind of work with my powertig welder.
god i love these series...
Thanks!
I saw you were counting bends and straight pieces, is there any other measuring you did to get your lengths equal? Or does that not matter as much, as far as being very close to exactly all the same, like within an 1/8th to a 1/4. Just wondering bc that's what makes me the most nervous about making my own and I feel like others might be intimidated by the same, that is if welding isn't an issue for them lol. Thanks for the video.... 1 vid and I'm in. Subscribed.
Yea. Great job
Bro, one thing you've failed to mention is that you have to have talent to do this, its not as easy as you make it look...
i would argue that you need 0 talent, just some education and practice. i didn't know how to weld until i took a class last fall
great vid, big fan, curious where do u purchase these materials, those tubing that is.
Those are weld-el's and they are pipe size. I buy them wholesale through a vendor, but there are plenty of places online that sell them.
Hi Justin.
do you have a video that shows the actual cutting of the pie cuts?
i saw the one when you demonstrate the design (awsome video by the way, although i needed to watch it 100 times until i got it), but i cannot find the one where you are actually marking the strait pipe and cutting it.
thanks in advance.
I still haven't finished it. It's on the to-do list though.
Hi greets from Australia. Just wondering what material the schedule 40 pipe is made from? SS304 or SS312 or mild steel?
good job !
you don't make turbo brace ?
it's a non equal lengh ?
waiting part 2 :-)
So many recommendations, OK, OK, I'll sub!!!
Thanks for the sub!
Great job man , btw is that a schedule 10 pipe or more ?
very nice.
question: when your welding, you unpluged the main ecu from the car? thank you
No. Electricity does not travel through the ECU.
Subbed, great vids👍
Thanks for the sub!
Was thinking use Pipe foam lagging (wrap) inside the pipe just to dry fit the sections together so you could get the sizes and angles without having to juggle all the bits in one hand , put some ref markers then can spot weld with foam removed.
do you have a video or going to make a video of welding a merge collector. and or a video of the first weld coming off the merge collector after the collector had been welded fully
Adam Seay In the near future I will have a merge collector video. Part 2 has some weld shots but I don't think there is anything close up of the merge itself.
Wow that is complicated and tedious, but this is an awesome video.
yo, how much do you guys charge for a 2004 toyota camry solara 3.3L v6
Dig the vids, keep em up!
Plenty more in the making.
thanks for the information.. where to you buy your stainless elbows at?
I buy them wholesale from one of my vendors. You can often find them at any industrial plumbing supply stores (since they are pipe fittings), or search online for "Weld-El's"
have you shown already how to fab merge collectors?
Nice!
Thanks!
Love this build! Can I ask where you got the spiral flow idea from? Been trying to find some research on it but can't find anything!
Wayne Clement Thanks for watching. You're not likely to find much info at all about it. A small engineering team and I created the functioning concept about 6 years ago, and this is the most I've said about it. Some manufacturers use their own design/research as well, but I don't think they'll talk about it either.
The Fabrication Series yeah i've seen one other video so far, there may be more from those guys, and i've seen maybe a couple more images. Does it aid spool in your opinion? I imagine it gives more consistsnt results, especially as revs rise towards top end
Wayne Clement It does when designed and built correctly. It goes a lot deeper than simply staggering which is what I don't discuss.
@The fabrication series Where do you buy your elbows and other fittings from? If you don't mind me asking.
Mike McDonald I have a wholesale vendor that I've been using for years. Just do a Google search for "Weld El's". There are hundreds of decent vendors out there for them.
The Fabrication Series Thanks for the quick response. Appreciate the info.
Were i can buy that short radius elbows?
what type of blade do you have in the band saw to cut stainless
Where do you buy your pipe?
Ive had good luck using hose clamps to hold pieces together so that they can still be rotated. it can get complicated when you need to hold more than 2 elbows together.
I either drop a small tack or use PET tape. It's all in the process, but whatever works est for you is what you should use.
What type of tubes are you using?
Should do another manifold!!
What is back purging? Also why the dedicated cutting wheel/disc for stainless? Thanks for posting!
if you mix cutting wheels there can be cross contamination, and get non stainless particles mixed in the stainless which rust.
Stainless and Titanium need to have the shielding gas on both sides. If you don't have the shielding gas on both sides you get "sugaring" which is a weak point that will lead to failure of the weld. Basically, you need to prevent oxygen from touching the metal while it's molten and while it cools.
To back purge a pipe, you cover one hole with something like aluminum foil or tape. You do the same on the other side, but you stick a hose inside. The hose is connected to the shielding gas and gets rid of the oxygen on the inside.
The tig torch itself flows gas on the front side of the weld.
In the video you said the el's are schedule 40 SS, but they look like 10's, just curious.
Great videos by the way.
This was actually 2 vids cut after a change of plans. Started as 40 but changed to 10.
At about 22 min in I noticed a problem. The angle bent back on itself. That's going to be a massive restriction. Wouldn't it be better to build from the head instead, to keep everything smooth in the direction of flow?
Do you think I can go with 2.5 pipe.. or it has to be for better functioning 1.5 pipe..
Good stuff!! I wish I could explain the process this good haha
yo dan !
Dans Rods and Custom
Guyton of
hows the tape called he used ?
Did I miss a video of the down pipe being made? I can't find the upload, don't know if it's my account or what
chris roubo It's not posted yet.
minding my own Business until 2:00 at the time when i just reaalised my my screen had problem. ohh wait.. its the video itself. hahaha
Way better than Aaron wier of vibrant performance videos he takes to long your videos are more on point👌
Thank you.
The your ad here sticker had me dying
Right on haha.
Yeah, I noticed that, too...
TFS, would it be possible to fab this with a Lincoln 140?
eamonn cole Is that a MIG or TIG?
mig
eamonn cole no
how long would the mock up take on average if you were not recording everything on camera? Great videos !!!!!
Forged Shaft It varies by design but I usually get full mockup in 3-4 hours. This mockup took about 12 or so. I started in the morning and finished at night. The tricky part is getting the camera in the right spot so you can see it the first time because just about everything has to be shot in only one take. The strange part is you (the viewer) often sees more in the vid than I do when making the part which is extremely challenging haha. But I like the challenge.
Thanks for the reply, seems fairly difficult but you make it look so easy, somehow. I was thinking of attempting one with mild steel steam pipe as it would be easier to work with but it would probably take me a month to complete, someday ill give it a crack :)
Forged Shaft The only difference between mild and stainless pipe elbows (aside from price) is coverage. The other big difference is strength. In my opinion, if you're going to build one, might as well build it once with the materials that will perform better which would be stainless.
where did you get your elbows and pipe?
Lupita Salgado I order them wholesale, but a quick search online should net a few vendors.
Pro winger.
I watched both parts but diddnt catch what materials was used for piping was it anything special ?
them welds I can never do that work of art
Ednamole Qwe It's 304 Stainless pipe.
How thick does the wall need to be on the 304 piping ?
Can you scratch start stainless
why are you using pipe schedule 40 and not tubing?
Pipe is thicker and the bends are tighter than tubing which holds more weight. It's also easier to work with.
Where can I get too see part 2
STYLES NELSON Part 2 will be posted either later tonight or first thing tomorrow morning.
thank you am here waiting too see it by the way great job and so much info in every video step by step thank you
what's your gas flow? and tungsten?
I honestly don't remember the gas flow. It's over 20 CFH with the FUPA cup. My tungsten size changes depending on the weld.
Where is your guard on the grinder
When you are test fitting the bits of pipe why not use a jubilees clip to clamp/locate at least one joint? This would free up at least one of the four hands you need!!
i feel this would have gone much easier for you had you a helper, an apprentice, kind of like a sith lord
Aye that's Kye's evo!
Bender Rodriguez Sure is.
Why use schedule 40 tubing, isn’t that electrical conduit?
Its stainless pipe. Conduit is different.
Thanks
what i learned: pay someone else to do it
That's actually a very honest assessment
You remind me of Bob Ross. Just grow an afro and start saying happy little welds. haha
xXdonjulio Bob Ross is a legend and one of my idols. I really appreciate this comment!
My bathroom renovator promised he was making everything out of schedule 40 pipe, but theres this hideous white plastic stuff under there instead 😔
3 videos. in 3 days. you must be really busy.
Guessing someone just got around to editing
Juan Fernandez I still have 8 more episodes that need to be cut and loaded haha. It's been a busy past few days.
Hey Justin. Not gonna lie, I found your channel yesterday with the rebranding a valve cover vid. Your work and your mindset is so clear and easy to follow. plus the green screen voice over concept is killer. I design race and street cars over on my channel and i have been watching non stop since last night, everything you do i can translate into my designs. ive been working on a design of a mitsubishi mirage hatchback with a 4g63 AWD swap. the first video of that should be up in a couple of days. i would love it if you could check out my channel. any feedback and suggestions would be much appreciated! keep up the awesome work. I only wish fabrication and supplies were easy to come by where i live in Malaysia. :(
That's awesome. I'll be sure to check it out once you get it uploaded. Thanks for watching!