Moral of the game, play every race like Zerg. Be mobile, expand like crazy, use T1 units to flank and keep your op guessing, don't just make pure mass carrier/tempest/ht.
"play every race like zerg" That is just pure stupidity. Reynor played greedy in this game because of the free 3rd base. You can't do that in other maps. Serral made a lot of mistakes here like overextending lurkers and nydus. He also wasted a lot of hyras, roaches and swarm hosts. Serral made a lot of tech switch having less workers. Reynor did play very well but the strategy won't work in any other maps. Also, Serral win this match 3-1
Year, right? Having the armada in one side and the archon-chargelot-immortal on the other side is such a good idea to prevent the typical air battle scenario! But it requires an insane micro.
Never played the game (just watched) but I def understand how insane beating who's considered as the best Scii player that also has the best PVZ is with an off race
I play random in ranked and its great but I've only reached diamond a few time. Zerg I get there almost every time. Some sick shit Reynor does. But this guy Dayvie or Blizzard's David Kim is the reason I play random.
The flank on the gold base was honestly just peak star craft. Its what protoss's have failed to do for so long honestly. Not nearly enough multi-pronged attacking. Always just a death ball that gets 360 degree surrounded by zerg and becomes a Dead ball
Ye, but that’s the issue exactly. Come supreme lategame, PvZ is skytoss deathball vs whatever the Zerg chooses. And 9 out of 10 times, the result is, that P starts losing the attrition war to rebuilding interceptors and abducted units, loses patience, commits to an engagement they should not have commited to (but didn’t really have much choice anyway), gets rightfully obliterated and taps out…
@dankmemester1066 agreed, I have not really seen deathballs in protoss anymore, simply because of how easy it is for zerg to just yank a few key units using vipers to mess up everything
@dankmemester1066 We were talking about lategame, not immortal archon midgame. The thing here was that reynor was using the midgame units as a part of his army in ultra lategame, when any other Toss would have fully transitioned into a skytoss deathball because it's considered to be the best lategame army.
Reynor eventually lost 1-3 to Serral in this tournament but he shows great porformance so far though. I like how Reynor creates new method of playstyle when he touches that races.
Its true one of the biggest advantages of protoss is their unit production, if they mass chrono gateways or stargates they can produce a full fresh army almost instantly and teleport it almost anywhere on the map at the same time. They requires very greedy play tho with many bases.
I think something that's perhaps missed is Reynor's econ was better than Serral's for most of the game. He probed up like a zerg did which allowed him to be quite aggressive after the nydus attacks were pacified. Which meant his bank was ahead of Zerg's which isn't common.
I compliment other casters other than Tastosis once in a blue moon, that time is now. I mean Scarlet, Lowko, Lambo and Wardi? That is stacked and I think I can watch this now
Just the best. Such great play from both, and Reynor has come so far in PvZ it’s crazy. Any plans to upload highlights for Reynor v ShoWTimE just before this? That last game especially, frustrating as a ShoWTimE fan but one of the most entertaining games of all time
Wow this really shows how powerful Protoss can be in the hands of a top level player. Very impressive how he ignores current Protoss meta strats to show the potential of Protoss. This shouldn't even be possible, lol. He makes the majority of pro level toss players look mediocre.
Idk why you wouldn't be allowed to play an army that isn't your "main" But I'm also surprised ppl don't do it much more often. They play enough and there's only 3 armies. Seems like it'd be a huge leg up to be able to swap around to keep your opponent on his toes
@@tehguitarque Yeh she was perfect person for this cast since she off races to Protoss as a Zerg main sometimes herself on the rare occasion and is in the loop for what's happening.
controversial statement: Terran splash damage sometimes has friendly firer (siege tanks, mines) and sometimes doesn't (thor, liberator air attack). Protoss splash damage sometimes has friendly fire (storm, disruptor) and sometimes doesn't (colossus, archon). Zerg banelings, lurkers, fungal don't have splash damage. Does ravager count? It's not really splash damage. Either way zerg op because they never have to deal with friendly fire. You can destroy your own mineral line with siege tanks as a terran, but you can burrow endless lurkers in a mineral line and they never hit each other, same with banelings etc. Zerg needs friendly fire.
If Zerg needed friendly fire, the devs would've done it. The reason they don't is because if you have 20 banelings rolling at marines and one blows up cause a marine shoots it, you lose your entire baneling count and that's just plain stupid. Lurkers would also kill your entire army immediately cause zerglings have less hp than zealots, stalkers, marines, marauders, or anything else really, so all of Zerg's splash, maybe with the exception of fungal, which would still kill all your zerglings, would make the race unplayable. Have you ever actually played Zerg?
friendly fire would make banelings unusable lol... I'm terran but zerg doesnt need friendly fire, especially considering the massing quality of their units. Lurkers doing friendly fire would obliterate all the zergs other ground forces. Most zerg units charge INTO the other army, marrines/stalkers, etc. kite back from a fight, allowting tanks/distruptors/collo to cover fire. But saying all that, youre probably in gold or plat so who cares what you think anyways lol
Corrosive Bile and Parasitic Bomb are both spells with friendly fire splash… Your statement is not controversial. It’s just based on ignoring the friendly fire splash that Zerg already has.
It's not a controversial statement. You are just being delusional from having a bad time on ladder. Even I, a 3k casual, understand that all the losses I get is just entirely the lack of skill
This goes to show how easy it is to play Protoss because you don't even have to main the race, or Zerg since they have time to master a second race (because their race is so easy). Now if Terran didn't have MULEs the game would be fully balanced
Protoss >>> zerg in the highest pro level gaming. They have better armor, better attack, better air and ground troops, have many special attacks that can overwhelm their enemies more easily than zerg, the instantaneous warp to any coordinate in maps, all in all, good game.
Reynor really showed his protoss is no joke. Helps he knows the perspective of the zerg side of it too.
i feel like PvZ is his specialty for sure
From my point of view, he played the late game better than the top main race Protoss players!
wrgg
Moral of the game, play every race like Zerg. Be mobile, expand like crazy, use T1 units to flank and keep your op guessing, don't just make pure mass carrier/tempest/ht.
wr
@@zes7215 =O You're here too? :D
"play every race like zerg"
That is just pure stupidity.
Reynor played greedy in this game because of the free 3rd base. You can't do that in other maps.
Serral made a lot of mistakes here like overextending lurkers and nydus. He also wasted a lot of hyras, roaches and swarm hosts.
Serral made a lot of tech switch having less workers.
Reynor did play very well but the strategy won't work in any other maps.
Also, Serral win this match 3-1
Beating the #1 worldwide, off-race, and in late-game 💀Top level troll
I think the "attempt" to take Serral's gold was a BM move 😂
wrr
@@ZAWARUD00for sure 😂 half of the game is midngames
I don't recall to ever seen Serral so pissed off after losing a game, like damn.
Why tf do you spoil the results of the game...??? Now I'm not watching
How Reynor manage to plit and choked Serral out was amazing. Most Protoss would just lump up their army together and do nothing for 30mins then die.
Year, right? Having the armada in one side and the archon-chargelot-immortal on the other side is such a good idea to prevent the typical air battle scenario! But it requires an insane micro.
wrgg
That split/pincer move at the end was beautiful.
“The best player in the world and somebody’s off race” :D
People who never played in top GM have no clue how insane this is. To be able to play off race on such a level is absolutely mindboggling.
Never played the game (just watched) but I def understand how insane beating who's considered as the best Scii player that also has the best PVZ is with an off race
I play random in ranked and its great but I've only reached diamond a few time. Zerg I get there almost every time. Some sick shit Reynor does. But this guy Dayvie or Blizzard's David Kim is the reason I play random.
wrgg
Reynor places grid, most people can do it but dont have a hotkey setup. I mean play at their level with off race.
Seral's face at the end of the match! Man was not happy.
understatement, that x-D
The most emotion I've seen him convey
wrrr
Reynor's body movements during the game make him look like a F1 racer and Serral looks like a pilot landing a 747.
Reynor plays protoss during a tournament: "what?"
... against Serral "WHAT??"
... and he wins "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT??? :O"
I'm amazed that Reynor won, usually I don't see protoss win late in a professional, especially the way he played.
especially against Serral
The flank on the gold base was honestly just peak star craft. Its what protoss's have failed to do for so long honestly. Not nearly enough multi-pronged attacking. Always just a death ball that gets 360 degree surrounded by zerg and becomes a Dead ball
Ye, but that’s the issue exactly. Come supreme lategame, PvZ is skytoss deathball vs whatever the Zerg chooses. And 9 out of 10 times, the result is, that P starts losing the attrition war to rebuilding interceptors and abducted units, loses patience, commits to an engagement they should not have commited to (but didn’t really have much choice anyway), gets rightfully obliterated and taps out…
@dankmemester1066 agreed, I have not really seen deathballs in protoss anymore, simply because of how easy it is for zerg to just yank a few key units using vipers to mess up everything
@dankmemester1066 We were talking about lategame, not immortal archon midgame. The thing here was that reynor was using the midgame units as a part of his army in ultra lategame, when any other Toss would have fully transitioned into a skytoss deathball because it's considered to be the best lategame army.
Reynor the king of feedbacks. He really punished spellcasters and that pushed the outcome
Reynor eventually lost 1-3 to Serral in this tournament but he shows great porformance so far though. I like how Reynor creates new method of playstyle when he touches that races.
same in the broodwar scene with FlaSh using protoss and improving it for players to follow
This game just proves that Protoss needs to play like Zerg more, very active, lots of bases and big tech switches led Reynor to victory
"Just play like Reynor."
Is he the new Maru?
Its true one of the biggest advantages of protoss is their unit production, if they mass chrono gateways or stargates they can produce a full fresh army almost instantly and teleport it almost anywhere on the map at the same time. They requires very greedy play tho with many bases.
@@Pehz63 if the best protoss player couldn't play their main race as good as the 4th best zerg offracing , then they don't deserve to win anything
I think something that's perhaps missed is Reynor's econ was better than Serral's for most of the game. He probed up like a zerg did which allowed him to be quite aggressive after the nydus attacks were pacified. Which meant his bank was ahead of Zerg's which isn't common.
masterful from reynor toss IMBA . "someone's off race" lmao
So Reynor basically took Scarletts' words, nice =w=
Winning to serral in late, is unbelievable. Amazing job by Reynor
THAT was a great game.
Reynor playing zotoss is amazing
My vote for Reynor to change his main race to Protoss!
I compliment other casters other than Tastosis once in a blue moon, that time is now. I mean Scarlet, Lowko, Lambo and Wardi? That is stacked and I think I can watch this now
Using the zealots as zerglings to poke in and get drone kills is great need to see more Protoss units spread out like that very nice play
Holy shit I can't believe it paid off
Loving the 4 way commentary!
Scarlett's commentary was great, she didn't say a lot, just occasionally chimed in with something really insightful
She’s one of the smartest SC players for sure, so much knowledge on everything
it's so cool to be as smart as a man.
Just the best. Such great play from both, and Reynor has come so far in PvZ it’s crazy.
Any plans to upload highlights for Reynor v ShoWTimE just before this? That last game especially, frustrating as a ShoWTimE fan but one of the most entertaining games of all time
That was spectacular, when was this played
HomestoryCup this year.
Wow didn't see that ending... Wonder how his protoss is vs a Maru or someone lol
OMG, that was on flame!
Reynor has hang out with Harstem a bit too much, now he's doing . Beating pro players with stupid stuffs
For legal reasons this is a joke 🤣🤣
Massive props to Reynor, awesome.
Raynor masterclass
Pulling a Scarlett while she’s commentating, epic
Loved Scarlett casting this game 👍
Protoss new Zerg confirmed.
It's crazy how not a single Protoss player is here to call Zerg OP all of a sudden.
Zerg is OP
Zerg is still OP man
Protoss is OP
LOL damn Reynor plays a really mean protoss !!!
it takes a zerg to be the best protoss
Great match.
Wow this really shows how powerful Protoss can be in the hands of a top level player. Very impressive how he ignores current Protoss meta strats to show the potential of Protoss. This shouldn't even be possible, lol. He makes the majority of pro level toss players look mediocre.
Idk why you wouldn't be allowed to play an army that isn't your "main"
But I'm also surprised ppl don't do it much more often. They play enough and there's only 3 armies. Seems like it'd be a huge leg up to be able to swap around to keep your opponent on his toes
Reynor shows Protoss doesn't need buffs, Protoss needs good players.
isn't sky-zerg completely countered by mass voidrays?
Scarletts voice is meant for casting.
Which one is the correct comment?
It took me 10 minutes to realize it was her. She doesn't talk a lot.
Good response comment; she's also a pro, unlike some other commenters.
@@tehguitarque Yeh she was perfect person for this cast since she off races to Protoss as a Zerg main sometimes herself on the rare occasion and is in the loop for what's happening.
Nice virtue signaling, but no, a caster needs to actually have a voice.
Wow
The best player in the world got defeated by someone on his off race!
Proof that if Zerg goes ultralisks, they die.
reynor cavallo nazionale ^_^
nice hearing Scarlett cast
tx m8.. appreciate it.. i hate a missions like this one.. script fights is sux.. tx again
Lambo zerg brain rot is so real
Reynor topmen)
####### بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم و الصلاة و السلام على اشرف المرسلين و آله وسلم تسليما كثير باكثر و افضل ما صلى وسلم علية به من الازل الى الابد #######
thats because he know he cant win serral zerg vs zerg so he switches to protoss at least might have chance
Is Zerg imba, or are Zerg PLAYERS imba?
Spoil protection
Wise pick. Reynor zerg is weak vs serral
Thank god ZvZ so boring or TvT is actually
wrr
Scarletts voice is not meant for casting.
controversial statement:
Terran splash damage sometimes has friendly firer (siege tanks, mines) and sometimes doesn't (thor, liberator air attack). Protoss splash damage sometimes has friendly fire (storm, disruptor) and sometimes doesn't (colossus, archon).
Zerg banelings, lurkers, fungal don't have splash damage. Does ravager count? It's not really splash damage.
Either way zerg op because they never have to deal with friendly fire. You can destroy your own mineral line with siege tanks as a terran, but you can burrow endless lurkers in a mineral line and they never hit each other, same with banelings etc.
Zerg needs friendly fire.
If Zerg needed friendly fire, the devs would've done it. The reason they don't is because if you have 20 banelings rolling at marines and one blows up cause a marine shoots it, you lose your entire baneling count and that's just plain stupid. Lurkers would also kill your entire army immediately cause zerglings have less hp than zealots, stalkers, marines, marauders, or anything else really, so all of Zerg's splash, maybe with the exception of fungal, which would still kill all your zerglings, would make the race unplayable. Have you ever actually played Zerg?
"Sees protoss win"
"But what if we nerfed zerg"
friendly fire would make banelings unusable lol... I'm terran but zerg doesnt need friendly fire, especially considering the massing quality of their units. Lurkers doing friendly fire would obliterate all the zergs other ground forces. Most zerg units charge INTO the other army, marrines/stalkers, etc. kite back from a fight, allowting tanks/distruptors/collo to cover fire.
But saying all that, youre probably in gold or plat so who cares what you think anyways lol
Corrosive Bile and Parasitic Bomb are both spells with friendly fire splash…
Your statement is not controversial. It’s just based on ignoring the friendly fire splash that Zerg already has.
It's not a controversial statement. You are just being delusional from having a bad time on ladder. Even I, a 3k casual, understand that all the losses I get is just entirely the lack of skill
And protoss crying about being underpowered, just get better lmao
One of the casters is sus
This goes to show how easy it is to play Protoss because you don't even have to main the race, or Zerg since they have time to master a second race (because their race is so easy). Now if Terran didn't have MULEs the game would be fully balanced
Protoss >>> zerg in the highest pro level gaming. They have better armor, better attack, better air and ground troops, have many special attacks that can overwhelm their enemies more easily than zerg, the instantaneous warp to any coordinate in maps, all in all, good game.
Scarlett have been changed a male but forgot about voice. I wish she is perfect women overall😊❤