Big thanks to the guys at Farmer's Equipment. GP is an great fella and a true ambassador for your business. If I weren't so far away I would definitely be by to see you guys.
Hey thanks so much Jeremy! Kevin and Dave at Farmer Equipment Sales have been really kind to us for sure. Several pieces of equipment I would never had the chance to try out and use and learn. Thanks so much - have a wonderful weekend and talk again soon!
Nice video GP. Both machines are winners and so are you I see. Just watched the results of Woodstack 2018 on Outdoors with the Morgan’s. Congratulations
Wow how fast the kinetic splitter performed .if you want i post a few pictures of my splitter whith my old cormic .and thanks for your work again.cheers michael
Congratulations on winning the UA-cam category in Woodstack 2018! We’re all proud of you and Guy and everyone else who pitched in! Hope you’ll show off all the goodies you won! We have two inches of snow on the ground, how about you? Is your blower ready to go? I’m excited for some snow clearing videos, and maybe to make a few. Only time will tell. Stay warm GP! Cheers!
Hey great to hear from you Jackson! Yes, very proud and humbled at the win. There were lots of great stacks to see. Snowblower mount and maintenance is happening tomorrow. Looks like this last several snows we got are here to stay. Have about 2-3 inches accumulated and more snow on the way tonight. Hope you do make some videos - Be well and all the best my friend!
I have the dual splitter from Northern tool and it is exactly the same as the Brave. I will say that the kinetic splitters are fast, but the dual spliiters are "somewhat" safer. No need to slam the piece into the wedge. I say "somewhat" because it is easy to get complacent and begin to split the other direction while looking at what you want to split next. Removed the end of my left ring finger when I got it between the wood and the small cleat that prevents the wood from sliding. Fortunately not all the way to the first joint so I just call it "stubby"!! And I have split and burnt wood for 40+ years.
Good day David and sorry to hear about the incident. It's a good story and reminder to all of us. As I read your comment I started to realize that I have been guilty lately of doing the same thing and need to re-focus and remember to pay attention to what I am doing. Thanks for sharing it for all of us. Be safe out there and thanks again!
Good vid. Thanks for putting it up. Perfect time of year to be in the woods ! From what I could see , the kinetic definitely was faster by a fair amount. High stumps are nice when cutting firewood. Easier to work. . A Humboldt face is considerably safer when the tree being fell may hangup. But, you got er down just fine. Good job!
Hey thanks Gumboot! I am still learning how to fell them. It is certainly not as easy as it looks. Definitely something you get good at over a long time and practice. I am not sure what a Humboldt is but I will check out some videos to learn. Thanks for watching and for the comment. Cheers!
@@GPOutdoors A Humboldt face = the face( smile in the case of a Humboldt , frown in the case of a conventional ) The face cut out of the stump . A conventional face gets taken out of the butt of the log. When cutting firewood I often make the stump 2 firewood rounds tall. Then cut the stump off as flush to the ground as I can. Especially in deep snow.
Good video GP and GUY , great friendship great equipment and a great time was had for a neighbor. Thanks so much for sharing. This entertainment is better that TELEVISION.
LOL ODD! OK, you had me up until the television comment. I am going to have to step up the action, mystery and intrigue!! Thanks so much again. Have a great week!
So the Brave wins! I like the idea of using another chunk of wood to get a first piece unstuck. That's why I love the 2 way wedge it's not just the speed.
First I have ever seen of the Gripo. Really cranked them out fast. The tables are a nice feature on both splitters. I use an Iron & Oak 20 ton splitter, traditional design with a 6 HP commercial grade Briggs & Stratton Vanguard engine. Nice little wood cart you got there too! Best, Bill on the Hill... :~)
Both machines are nice to see in operation. It's the second splitter contest and so far, you seem to choose the fastest each time!!! When a sizeable tree sits on it's stump, I don't chain it directly to the tractor, as you never know what the tree can do. The base of the tree can slide on the ground and pull your tractor FEL sideways. This tree is twice the weight of the tractor, if not more. I rather tie a chain between a nearby strong tree and the base of tree to fall. Then I pull (with another chain length) perpendicular to the middle of that first chain. Any kickback would be to the other tree, not the tractor. You seem to get better weather than I got!!! My best guess, it was on a week day? Thanks GP!
Hey good morning Joe. Yes it was indeed. Thanks for the helpful suggestion with the chains. Good and helpful if I need to do it again in the future. I just saw you uploaded the next video of the carport so will get comfortable with a cup and enjoy the progress. Cheers and thanks again!
It would of been nice to see each operator switch to get a true test. Guy on the right was humping to get wood split. Guy on the left was just cruising. No rush
They both look like nice machines. Sometimes I think the kinetic looks like it could be a bit tedious. That's just from the video and the routine it appears to help make it more efficient. Is it that bad or just another procedure and not pain? Thanks gentlemen, you make a good team. All the best to you and the family GP, thanks for all the education and entertainment that you bring to us. I very much appreciate it.
Hey good evening Bill. Like many tools, I keep learning the more I use it. They both have specific qualities for sure. I am going to try to keep using it until the snow stops me so I can really see the differences between them. Thanks for the comments as always! I always enjoy hearing from you. Have a wonderful weekend and talk again soon. Cheers!
I like how the orange splitter has a blade on both sides and ya don't have to back it up and go forward again if you know what I'm talking about, speeds it up a little....how does that work, is the hydraulic piston on the bottom of the orange one
Good morning TTP! Yes it was my favourite as well - especially having the tables on both sides to hold the splits. Yes sir - the cylinder is underneath. Thanks for the comment this morning - Cheers!
Greetings, As usual great video, great to have someone to enjoy the great outdoors with, you two work very well together, always a pleasure to watch your videos, Thanks, Later!!
It's not really a race guys. It's just a friendly comparison of the features and abilities of each machine. They are splitting wood to share with the neighbors. Couple of good guys I'd be honored to live near.
Congratulations on winning GP I can't wait to see what Mike send you in your box looking forward to the unboxing video have a great week and God bless !!! Kioti Curt. 😉👍🚜
That kinetic splitter is incredible! I’ve heard the gears can wear from slamming them together however. Are you seeing that or is there a mechanical preventative measure built in? So fast! Amazing!
Hey good evening Jon! I haven't yet but probably depends on the gauge of iron used. I will ask about it though just to learn about it. Thanks for watching and all the best to the Ritter family! I would say "stay warm" but I can see now that you are pretty toasty!! LOL. Cheers! (Yes, I am envious) :))
I am not a fan of the kinetic splitters because you need to ram the lever into the gear to catch the flywheels, else the pieces will clash. Good for light work, but over time that movement will hurt your arm. I prefer the hydrologic splinters. Btw, That 2-way “dual” splitter with tables looks awesome.
The Gripo is quick. I wonder if it had a round that stalled it would it be able to 'work' through it. I know with my splitter if the ram stalls I can sometimes 'work' through by quickly applying pressure and then releasing. Other than that, that Gripo looks good... Have a great weekend.
Congratulation for your 1st price at Woodstack! And your 4K subscribers, and happy birthday.... I am looking for a firewood splitter, Brave is my preferred option, farm equipment is a bit far but I would like to encourage them. thanks for the videos! Conrad
Hey good evening Conrad - Thanks very much! big week for old GP. LOL. I like the BRAVE a lot, and so does Guy. I believe they ship across Canada. It is a good, solid built piece of equipment for sure. Cheers and good luck! Thanks again!
Now that was a fun video GP to watch guy is a riot ! LOL but i like them both too i would take ether one even though i have a new 35 ton dirty hand tools log splitter in the shed that has had one piece thought it ! but i dont like the table on that kinetic too small i like the ones that are up flat with the top of the rail and goes across the front and down the sides like wings like DR models i think it catches and holds the wood better but it is still a nice splitter just like to have the bigger table is all !! hope you and guy have a great weekend if you see he tell him hello from me ! from illinois .have a great weekend and up come week !! Kioti Curt :-)
Good morning Curt! I will tell him for sure. Thanks! Yes I think you are bang on with the recommendation. Bigger tables with some small changes would be a help with the rounds. Thanks for watching and hope all is well with you and your family. Cheers!
The kinetic may be faster but what about a knotty block?. Does it jamb will it take several shots to get through. All the videos I've seen with kinetic splitters have been clean blocks
Good morning Mark. That's a good point. When I have hit a knotty spot and it doesn't make it through, I would have to punch it again until it does. I only had it for a couple of months but during that time, I did not face a block i couldn't punch through. Thanks for the question and have a good one!
That'a a pretty heavy load of logs in the grapple, with negligible rear ballast of the empty carry-all (225 lbs maybe?) Kind of hard on the front axle and tire sidewalls. Do you have liquid ballast in the rear tires? ...just wondering.
Good morning Warped. Thanks for tuning in. This one was ok I would say. Yes, rim guard in the rears. Early on, as I was learning, I will admit there were a few times I lifted some loads that were heavy for the tractor but I quickly learned that I can "feel" when something is too heavy, if you know what I mean. Plus I look down at the front tires to see if they start to pancake. But thanks - always appreciate a good eye and advice. Take goo d care and all the best!
it would have been a bit more informative to see two stacks in the end. was the kinetic only slightly faster, or was it twice as fast ? lots of fun watching. the dual does have one advantage, you would not be out of breath in the end.
Good evening Dave! That's a good idea - I should have. Will keep in mind if I do it again in the future. I would have to say it was almost twice as fast. 3 second cycle time compared to 7, however the tables would have been more effective if they were bigger and longer. Thanks for the good idea! Cheers!
The kinetic is less than half the cycle time so it can be twice as fast, but that depends on the operator, are you getting the most out of it or are you putsing around moving the wood unnecessarily, smashing it onto the wedge, etc.
yeah there alot cheaper then john deere and newholland and holder accully plus the B series makes a great towns and cities side walk machines plus there alot cheaper then a $140,000 holder c992
I own one acre: dual split equip seem safer for novice helpers and safer stacking. *** The brave equipment seems a good starter. Can the accuator be made automatic? Would save time in setup as the gripo was automatic. A table can be made from large stumps on both sides of the equipment? Save energy on picking up trunk halves that need resplits. Maybe no table on opposite side and do resplits later for that set. I like the presentation on this video because it shows the equipment in action versus talk during, helps me gauge operation. Gripo fast splitting half of the wood with one man, good for two man operation, con allot of operator motion in a stooped position. Brave fast setup, fast repeat setup, controlled pace, con slower splitting and less opportunity for fast-safe two man operation.
Good day Chris. Some good observations. Thanks for sharing. They both certainly have their pros and cons. But as you noted, there are things you can do to alter things to fit a person's personal choices. Thanks again!
Check out a couple of my videos with my Dual Splitter with a 4 way wedge. Added a bigger hydraulic pump and it splits pretty fast. Happy with it overall just don't like that you can't get to the seals easy when it's time to change them.
The slower Dual Split will have more torque if they have the same engine. The Gripo would cycle faster. The power is the same, used differently. Put a difficult piece of wood in and watch the Gripo struggle. Same effect as shorter vs taller gearing.
I end up having to clean up a lot of really big downed trees every year. I block them up and then I have always had 2 guys (some times 3) wrestling the big blocks into the vertical position hof my 22 ton splitter. This year I had a friend that runs a welding shop build me a boom for the splitter. I put a hand crank winch on it and use a set of logging tongs and I can handle the big blocks alone where 2 guys really struggled with them before. I try to position the splitter slightly downhill from the blocks so that when I crank them in, they spin right into place. I leave a slight tension on the blocks as I split, then keep spinning them in place until they absolutely won't hold together anymore, then I can handle the remaining pieces with ease. I wish sometimes that I had a you tube channel so I could show yourself, Mech Uno, and Outdoors With The Morgans how I am set up. Have a great day G.P. Gary from Iowa
Gary - wow. That sounds pretty creative and awesome. I would like to see it. Perhaps sometime you can video it in action and then upload to youtube and let us know so we can see it. It is very quick and easy to set up a channel, or perhaps post it on the channel you are currently commenting from. Our friend Joe Lesage, built a firewood system that also has a boom on it. Turned out really great. Not sure if you watch his channel but it is called Joe Lesage. You can see it there. Good stuff. Thanks for sharing Gary! Cheers!
This was fun watching.... Just wondering something ....Do you usually cut your trees that high off the ground. After cutting wood and logs all my life I find this can be dangerous if the tree kicks back off the stump. Keep warm enjoy your videos
Good morning Logger John! Thanks for the q. I have been asked that before - many folks do things a little differently for sure, I guess. The reason we cut up that high is for comfort and safety ( notwithstanding the potential for kick back), and because we get a lot of snow in the winter - snowmobiles and ATVs are going through the forest, so leaving it high leaves it visible (since we don't dig out the stumps very often). The alternative would be to cut it down at ground level, as low as possible but we also have pretty rocky ground. At some point if we choose to remove the stump, then we get the extra wood out first. But always interested in finding out how others do things - helps to learn and also many times I find a new or better way of doing things. Cheers and thanks again!
@@GPOutdoors, once you've cut it high, and then decide to remove the stump, I think you are better off removing the stump using the high stump for leverage and THEN cutting the extra wood from the stump rather than taking out the extra wood before removing the stump.
It's away make happy to see you and other people having they safety gear on when they cutting up wood. All ways think safety 👍👍👍. I just a video on powerking wood splitter I like Grips splitter better
I just don't understand why they didn't change the activation handle on the gripo. It really looks like a pain to have to pull it up, especially when your gloves are wet. I would add a see - saw mechanism , Where you could just smack down one side to raise the other to pull the activation handle up. I know it's a safety thing.
Good morning Charles. I think you are right - it is for safety but yes, it is definitely designed to ensure the engagement is a deliberate action. You have to pull it up pretty firmly to engage it. Have a great weekend!
Good morning T. Yes, much better to split that way with the big stuff. This kinetic doesn't tilt (I think you are right - I don't think any kinetic would be able to tilt) and it is pretty hard having to lift the big stuff up onto the rail. We don't have a lot of big stuff here but my neighbour keeps an old vertical in his shed for when he needs it. Cheers and thanks for watching!
Hello , brave dual split is more efficient with hard wood than gripo kinetic. But the top le Split-Fire dual split because they are strong and more speed! 😉👍
I think the orange, with that back and forth action, one would do a much better job with two people running it, but those super slow moving ones drive me a little nuts. This must have been made last fall. Worst wettest we've had in a long time.
That's an interesting question Sheik? I never tried that on the kinetic or any splitter. Kind of makes me want to try to see what would happen. Take care!
@@GPOutdoors That's how i test a log splitter. A hydraulic wil split or stop (sap comes out). I think with a kinetic log splitter you get a lot of problems. The force must go somewhere.
I started too comment that the Dual Split was almost a clone of the harbor freight. But the Harbor has a high cyclic rate. Guy: Would have matched you if he would have just let the wood fall to the ground. He lost a lot of time throwing each piece over the the carry all.
Hey good evening Richard. I think you may be right. The nice thing about video recording this stuff is I can look back and it certainly was kind of a tortoise and hare thing. Thanks for the comment and look forward to hearing from you again. Cheers! (I'll let him know you think he kicked my butt! LOL)
I have a duel splitter from Northern Tools and after watching this video I’d say this is a totally inaccurate comparison. To get full advantage of a duel splitter you need to have two rounds on the splitter (one each side of the wedge ) also I’ve rarely had to take a full stroke to get a good split (the way Guy was). Place the round, split one direction far enough to get the next round on and split the other direction. If the first round does not split complete enough, rotate 90 degrees for the next split coming back-the first split usually falls out in the process of the next split. It’s all about technique using this machine. Not saying the duel splitter would have won this competition but it would have been much closer.
Hey good evening Cory. That's a great point. My favourite splitter is the Dual Split. And you are correct. As I have gained experience, I have been able to start doing exactly what you suggested above. I also, with smaller rounds, will add one or two on the side tables, in waiting until the current round is done. Thanks for the great thoughts and opinion. Cheers!
I don't know about the safety of it but not having to hold the handle on the kinetic spliter was a big advantage as to speed. The Dual spliter I like the better ability to control the split. Another thing I don't like to work as fast as the kinetic one can work you. Of course you could just slow down. I would be proud to own ether one.
That was nice clean straight grain wood. East splitting... Lets see you give it a try on some gnarly knotty wood and the dual splitter will win every time.
A big, huge open area, and you fall the tree into the other trees. A classic example of, why do things an easy way when there is a hard way of doing it.
LOL Joe!! Too funny. We laughed as well. I am still learning to fell and I did a terrible job of the cut so the safest way for Guy to drop it was away from the clearing (it was leaning hard that way). I wanted to drop it into the clearing but I messed up. Anyways have a great week! Thanks for the morning laugh! Cheers!
Good morning Pohbor! Not sure but if you check out Farmer Equipment Sales' website , I believe they have their current pricing listed for each on the site.Have a great weekend!
Good morning Scott. A great question. I put some maple and elm that had knots in them through it. Most went through with one hit but several I had to hit more than once to get through. The impact is about 28,000 lbs so it is pretty effective. I personally prefer the Dual Split over all other splitters I have tried - pops knots every time now for two years. Very seldom ever caught the wedge and really efficient being able to split both ways. Thanks for the question and all the best!
Having a buddy to help you is great GP......you guys are awesome.....and nice to help out a neighbor in need of firewood.....good on you..... :)
Good morning Don,.Was a lot of fun and got some work done too. Cheers!
Another great video Gord! You and Guy seem to have a very good friendship. Thanks for another side by side comparison video. God Bless!
Good morning and thanks Nate! I always enjoy working with Guy. He's a good friend. (plus his wife makes the best homemade pies).LOL. Cheers!!
Big thanks to the guys at Farmer's Equipment. GP is an great fella and a true ambassador for your business. If I weren't so far away I would definitely be by to see you guys.
Hey thanks so much Jeremy! Kevin and Dave at Farmer Equipment Sales have been really kind to us for sure. Several pieces of equipment I would never had the chance to try out and use and learn. Thanks so much - have a wonderful weekend and talk again soon!
Congratulations on the woodstack 2018 you guys did us Canadians proud
Hey thanks so much Frank! I appreciate it a lot. It was a lot of fun and glad the flag flew proud! Have a great week!
GP, I remember when you first posted this video... good stuff, it’s just now popping back up in my recommends. 😁
Nice video GP. Both machines are winners and so are you I see. Just watched the results of Woodstack 2018 on Outdoors with the Morgan’s. Congratulations
LOL Darcy! Yup, very honoured and proud of it. A lot of fun and some great stacks submitted. Be well and all the best!
You guys are a riot! Those are impressive machines. Looking forward to the next video.
Hey good morning Sean. Great to hear from you! Yes, they both have their strong points. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it. Cheers!
Nice job guys! Good to see both machines working side by side so you can get a good look at each working. mmm this coffee is good:)
Thanks Paul. LOL. Nothing like a good cup of brew in the morning. Keeps the chill out. Cheers!
Just ran across this channel. I like your presentation, demeanor, and your music. You just got a subscriber. Nice video thanks.
Congratulations on winning Woodstack 2018 in your category. Nice video as well.
Congratulations GP for your winning (wood stack 2018)
Very enjoy your videos
Thanks again!
Cheers!
Thanks very much P! Have a good one!
Great effort boys. Congrats on your woodstack award.
Cheers Gary!! Some great wood stacks all around! Thanks so much and all the best!
Congratulations to you and Guy on Woodstack 2018 ... I enjoyed the series!!
Good morning and thanks very much. Appreciate the support and the fun. Cheers!
@@GPOutdoors another congrats on winning
Fairest comparison video I can find. Kinetic vs.
CONGRATULATIONS on winning the you tube woodstack from OUTDOORS WITH THE MORGANS. WAY TO GO all of you.
Hey good evening ODD! Yup, pretty excited and proud of it. Some really great entries in all categories by folks. Have a good one!
Good use of proper PPE.......well done....!
Wow how fast the kinetic splitter performed .if you want i post a few pictures of my splitter whith my old cormic .and thanks for your work again.cheers michael
Neat comparison, I’m taking a look at the kinetic splitters this week. Thanks for the video from the beautiful woods of Ontario.
You're most welcome Michael! Kinetic is fast but my favourite is the Dual Split overall. Cheers and best of luck!
Congratulations on your win!
again congratulations to Gordon and Guy and the rest of the Gang good showing of teamwork
Hey good evening and thanks Bob! Have a great week!
Good fun challenge. I like both of those splitters, GP. Thumbs up.
Thanks Houndsman!! I had some fun there for sure. Cheers!
Congratulations on winning the UA-cam category in Woodstack 2018! We’re all proud of you and Guy and everyone else who pitched in! Hope you’ll show off all the goodies you won! We have two inches of snow on the ground, how about you? Is your blower ready to go? I’m excited for some snow clearing videos, and maybe to make a few. Only time will tell. Stay warm GP! Cheers!
Hey great to hear from you Jackson! Yes, very proud and humbled at the win. There were lots of great stacks to see. Snowblower mount and maintenance is happening tomorrow. Looks like this last several snows we got are here to stay. Have about 2-3 inches accumulated and more snow on the way tonight. Hope you do make some videos - Be well and all the best my friend!
I have the dual splitter from Northern tool and it is exactly the same as the Brave. I will say that the kinetic splitters are fast, but the dual spliiters are "somewhat" safer. No need to slam the piece into the wedge. I say "somewhat" because it is easy to get complacent and begin to split the other direction while looking at what you want to split next. Removed the end of my left ring finger when I got it between the wood and the small cleat that prevents the wood from sliding. Fortunately not all the way to the first joint so I just call it "stubby"!! And I have split and burnt wood for 40+ years.
Good day David and sorry to hear about the incident. It's a good story and reminder to all of us. As I read your comment I started to realize that I have been guilty lately of doing the same thing and need to re-focus and remember to pay attention to what I am doing. Thanks for sharing it for all of us. Be safe out there and thanks again!
Good vid. Thanks for putting it up. Perfect time of year to be in the woods !
From what I could see , the kinetic definitely was faster by a fair amount.
High stumps are nice when cutting firewood. Easier to work. . A Humboldt face is considerably safer when the tree being fell may hangup.
But, you got er down just fine. Good job!
Hey thanks Gumboot! I am still learning how to fell them. It is certainly not as easy as it looks. Definitely something you get good at over a long time and practice. I am not sure what a Humboldt is but I will check out some videos to learn. Thanks for watching and for the comment. Cheers!
@@GPOutdoors
A Humboldt face = the face( smile in the case of a Humboldt , frown in the case of a conventional ) The face cut out of the stump .
A conventional face gets taken out of the butt of the log.
When cutting firewood I often make the stump 2 firewood rounds tall. Then cut the stump off as flush to the ground as I can. Especially in deep snow.
Thanks Gumboot!! Cheers!
Good video GP and GUY , great friendship great equipment and a great time was had for a neighbor. Thanks so much for sharing. This entertainment is better that TELEVISION.
LOL ODD! OK, you had me up until the television comment. I am going to have to step up the action, mystery and intrigue!! Thanks so much again. Have a great week!
Don't need all that mystery and intrigue!!! Keep up your fun and games and honesty. Plus the hard work and being friendly to your neighbors.
Always have to look after your neighbours. Cheers ODD! Be well!!
So the Brave wins! I like the idea of using another chunk of wood to get a first piece unstuck. That's why I love the 2 way wedge it's not just the speed.
Hey good day Gary! Yup, it is a great piece of equipment. They did a great job engineering it. Cheers!
Congratulation for the winning GP ( woodstack ) and happy birthday !!!
Hey thanks Dave! It was a lot of fun.... and LOL! You caught that did you?:)) Thanks so much. Cheers!
@@GPOutdoors Winter is coming !!! probably right now for you and us tomorrow, and can you believe that -15c on thursday ???
First I have ever seen of the Gripo. Really cranked them out fast. The tables are a nice feature on both splitters. I use an Iron & Oak 20 ton splitter, traditional design with a 6 HP commercial grade Briggs & Stratton Vanguard engine.
Nice little wood cart you got there too!
Best,
Bill on the Hill... :~)
Thanks William. Nice, I am still a big fan of the dual split hydraulic, but that kinetic certainly does pump them out very quickly. Cheers!
Nice job guys winning woodstack 2018 !!!!
Hey thanks Paul! And for the support!
Nice video! I like the speed of the kinetic splitter! The dual splitter is nice too!
Both machines are nice to see in operation. It's the second splitter contest and so far, you seem to choose the fastest each time!!! When a sizeable tree sits on it's stump, I don't chain it directly to the tractor, as you never know what the tree can do. The base of the tree can slide on the ground and pull your tractor FEL sideways. This tree is twice the weight of the tractor, if not more. I rather tie a chain between a nearby strong tree and the base of tree to fall. Then I pull (with another chain length) perpendicular to the middle of that first chain. Any kickback would be to the other tree, not the tractor. You seem to get better weather than I got!!! My best guess, it was on a week day? Thanks GP!
Hey good morning Joe. Yes it was indeed. Thanks for the helpful suggestion with the chains. Good and helpful if I need to do it again in the future. I just saw you uploaded the next video of the carport so will get comfortable with a cup and enjoy the progress. Cheers and thanks again!
It would of been nice to see each operator switch to get a true test. Guy on the right was humping to get wood split. Guy on the left was just cruising. No rush
Good morning James. That's an excellent point - thanks . Good info for the next time we do an exercise like this. Cheers!
Congratulations Gord on big win for woodstack 2018!!!
Hey thanks very much Lee! Pretty excited and proud.Cheers!!
GREAT VIDEO ! THANKS GUYS !
They both look like nice machines. Sometimes I think the kinetic looks like it could be a bit tedious. That's just from the video and the routine it appears to help make it more efficient. Is it that bad or just another procedure and not pain?
Thanks gentlemen, you make a good team. All the best to you and the family GP, thanks for all the education and entertainment that you bring to us. I very much appreciate it.
Hey good evening Bill. Like many tools, I keep learning the more I use it. They both have specific qualities for sure. I am going to try to keep using it until the snow stops me so I can really see the differences between them. Thanks for the comments as always! I always enjoy hearing from you. Have a wonderful weekend and talk again soon. Cheers!
G P Guy fun watching you to go at it keep the videos coming
God Bless All
PaK
Thanks Peter!!
Good to see you guys using protective gear. Been watching a lot of wood splitting videos and most people dont
Thanks very much for mentioning it D! I appreciate that. Got to keep my parts! Cheers!
I like how the orange splitter has a blade on both sides and ya don't have to back it up and go forward again if you know what I'm talking about, speeds it up a little....how does that work, is the hydraulic piston on the bottom of the orange one
Good morning TTP! Yes it was my favourite as well - especially having the tables on both sides to hold the splits. Yes sir - the cylinder is underneath. Thanks for the comment this morning - Cheers!
Greetings, As usual great video, great to have someone to enjoy the great outdoors with, you two work very well together, always a pleasure to watch your videos, Thanks, Later!!
Good morning and thanks Lee! Enjoy the rest of the weekend!
GP, that was nice to see the difference between the two! That Kinetic splitter is really fast! Wish we had your weather! lol Have a great week GP!
Hey good day LA! Thanks - 2 different designs and great to be able to try them both. Have a good one and all the best!
It's not really a race guys. It's just a friendly comparison of the features and abilities of each machine. They are splitting wood to share with the neighbors. Couple of good guys I'd be honored to live near.
Congratulations on winning GP I can't wait to see what Mike send you in your box looking forward to the unboxing video have a great week and God bless !!! Kioti Curt. 😉👍🚜
Hey good evening Kurt! That's a great idea - I think I'll do that. Cheers!
I copied your 3-point carryall, works great! Towing hitch, awesome!
I did not know Kubota sold a claw for carrying tree trunks. Neat!
My most used and favourite attachment.:))
Another recommendation for the kinetic would be additional cutter blade patterns ( cross[4 piece], star[six piece]).
Good call! I agree. Cheers WC!
That kinetic splitter is incredible! I’ve heard the gears can wear from slamming them together however. Are you seeing that or is there a mechanical preventative measure built in? So fast! Amazing!
Hey good evening Jon! I haven't yet but probably depends on the gauge of iron used. I will ask about it though just to learn about it. Thanks for watching and all the best to the Ritter family! I would say "stay warm" but I can see now that you are pretty toasty!! LOL. Cheers! (Yes, I am envious) :))
I am not a fan of the kinetic splitters because you need to ram the lever into the gear to catch the flywheels, else the pieces will clash. Good for light work, but over time that movement will hurt your arm. I prefer the hydrologic splinters. Btw, That 2-way “dual” splitter with tables looks awesome.
I love that BRAVE unit. Very efficient and the tables are really handy. Thanks for the comment today - All the best!
Very good video guy's LOVE it .God Bless .
Thanks so much Leo!! Be well and keep warm. The cold is here now. Cheers!
Congratulation for winning woodstack2018 well done gp
Good day and thanks very much Michael! It was a good time. All the best!
The Gripo is quick. I wonder if it had a round that stalled it would it be able to 'work' through it. I know with my splitter if the ram stalls I can sometimes 'work' through by quickly applying pressure and then releasing. Other than that, that Gripo looks good... Have a great weekend.
yeah my kubota dealer in pei sells splitters but a CASE IH 30ton splitter wich selling for $1,199.00 plus he can order the gripo brand if wanted one
Good morning Grampie! A good question. I am going to be splitting some nasty 'ol stringy Elm this week so we'll see how she does with that. Cheers!
Congrats on Woodstack 2018 GP!
Big Congratulations on Woodstack win!
Thanks James! Cheers!
Congratulations Gord . One of the winners in Woodstack 2018 . You have a great partner with Guy .
Sure do Henry. Pretty fortunate for sure. Cheers!
Congratulation for your 1st price at Woodstack! And your 4K subscribers, and happy birthday....
I am looking for a firewood splitter, Brave is my preferred option, farm equipment is a bit far but I would like to encourage them. thanks for the videos! Conrad
Hey good evening Conrad - Thanks very much! big week for old GP. LOL. I like the BRAVE a lot, and so does Guy. I believe they ship across Canada. It is a good, solid built piece of equipment for sure. Cheers and good luck! Thanks again!
Now that was a fun video GP to watch guy is a riot ! LOL but i like them both too i would take ether one even though i have a new 35 ton dirty hand tools log splitter in the shed that has had one piece thought it ! but i dont like the table on that kinetic too small i like the ones that are up flat with the top of the rail and goes across the front and down the sides like wings like DR models i think it catches and holds the wood better but it is still a nice splitter just like to have the bigger table is all !! hope you and guy have a great weekend if you see he tell him hello from me ! from illinois .have a great weekend and up come week !! Kioti Curt :-)
Good morning Curt! I will tell him for sure. Thanks! Yes I think you are bang on with the recommendation. Bigger tables with some small changes would be a help with the rounds. Thanks for watching and hope all is well with you and your family. Cheers!
Very good video GP and Good music !!!
Hey thanks Dave! Cheers!
That GRIPO is top shelf
The difference being the gripo will get stuck on gnarly wood and big knots, the dual split will go through most things, if not all that you get there.
Morning Joel. The Dual split is my all time favourite splitter. Hands down. Thanks for sharing your perspective this morning. Cheers and all the best!
The kinetic may be faster but what about a knotty block?. Does it jamb will it take several shots to get through. All the videos I've seen with kinetic splitters have been clean blocks
Good morning Mark. That's a good point. When I have hit a knotty spot and it doesn't make it through, I would have to punch it again until it does. I only had it for a couple of months but during that time, I did not face a block i couldn't punch through. Thanks for the question and have a good one!
Congratulations on the Woodstack 2018 win. I had a feeling you would win it.
Thanks! It was fun participating and lots of really cool stacks to see. Proud to win. Have a good one!
I love the kinetic splitters, fast!
That'a a pretty heavy load of logs in the grapple, with negligible rear ballast of the empty carry-all (225 lbs maybe?) Kind of hard on the front axle and tire sidewalls. Do you have liquid ballast in the rear tires? ...just wondering.
Good morning Warped. Thanks for tuning in. This one was ok I would say. Yes, rim guard in the rears. Early on, as I was learning, I will admit there were a few times I lifted some loads that were heavy for the tractor but I quickly learned that I can "feel" when something is too heavy, if you know what I mean. Plus I look down at the front tires to see if they start to pancake. But thanks - always appreciate a good eye and advice. Take goo d care and all the best!
it would have been a bit more informative to see two stacks in the end.
was the kinetic only slightly faster, or was it twice as fast ?
lots of fun watching.
the dual does have one advantage, you would not be out of breath in the end.
Good evening Dave! That's a good idea - I should have. Will keep in mind if I do it again in the future. I would have to say it was almost twice as fast. 3 second cycle time compared to 7, however the tables would have been more effective if they were bigger and longer. Thanks for the good idea! Cheers!
The kinetic is less than half the cycle time so it can be twice as fast, but that depends on the operator, are you getting the most out of it or are you putsing around moving the wood unnecessarily, smashing it onto the wedge, etc.
We rented a dual split once. Been meaning to convert our single action to one one day.
Love the dual split Jeremy! Cheers!
That was pretty slick. Which one really out worked the other? Both are good machines.
yeah there alot cheaper then john deere and newholland and holder accully plus the B series makes a great towns and cities side walk machines plus there alot cheaper then a $140,000 holder c992
Hey Dean . Can you email me at gordpotter55@gmail.com? thanks
Often wondered where you got the name for your channel . Finally got my answer . Thanks .
LOL. Cheers Henry!
Hey Dean , not sure if you received this but just in case, can i ask you to email me at gordpotter55 at gmail.com? Thanks
I own one acre: dual split equip seem safer for novice helpers and safer stacking.
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The brave equipment seems a good starter. Can the accuator be made automatic? Would save time in setup as the gripo was automatic. A table can be made from large stumps on both sides of the equipment? Save energy on picking up trunk halves that need resplits. Maybe no table on opposite side and do resplits later for that set. I like the presentation on this video because it shows the equipment in action versus talk during, helps me gauge operation. Gripo fast splitting half of the wood with one man, good for two man operation, con allot of operator motion in a stooped position. Brave fast setup, fast repeat setup, controlled pace, con slower splitting and less opportunity for fast-safe two man operation.
Good day Chris. Some good observations. Thanks for sharing. They both certainly have their pros and cons. But as you noted, there are things you can do to alter things to fit a person's personal choices. Thanks again!
I so like the kenetic force ones that yellow one is nice wish i dident own 3 piston power ones already i have 2 cheeper ones and heavy duty one
im more impressed with wot that little kubota tractor could do top machine
Good morning Skippy! Me too. Thanks for watching!
Check out a couple of my videos with my Dual Splitter with a 4 way wedge. Added a bigger hydraulic pump and it splits pretty fast. Happy with it overall just don't like that you can't get to the seals easy when it's time to change them.
Thanks - I'll check it out. Cheers!
Remember those good old days before the corona epidemic, when the sun was shining, ppl were healthy, and shook hands without gloves and masks...
The slower Dual Split will have more torque if they have the same engine. The Gripo would cycle faster. The power is the same, used differently. Put a difficult piece of wood in and watch the Gripo struggle. Same effect as shorter vs taller gearing.
Good morning and thanks Warren. Interesting perspectives. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
Great video guys. What ton rating are the two splitters?
Thanks Graps! The dual hydraulic is a 20 ton and the kinetic manual said it hits the wood with up to 28,000 lbs of force. Cheers!
I end up having to clean up a lot of really big downed trees every year. I block them up and then I have always had 2 guys (some times 3) wrestling the big blocks into the vertical position hof my 22 ton splitter. This year I had a friend that runs a welding shop build me a boom for the splitter. I put a hand crank winch on it and use a set of logging tongs and I can handle the big blocks alone where 2 guys really struggled with them before. I try to position the splitter slightly downhill from the blocks so that when I crank them in, they spin right into place. I leave a slight tension on the blocks as I split, then keep spinning them in place until they absolutely won't hold together anymore, then I can handle the remaining pieces with ease. I wish sometimes that I had a you tube channel so I could show yourself, Mech Uno, and Outdoors With The Morgans how I am set up. Have a great day G.P.
Gary from Iowa
Gary - wow. That sounds pretty creative and awesome. I would like to see it. Perhaps sometime you can video it in action and then upload to youtube and let us know so we can see it. It is very quick and easy to set up a channel, or perhaps post it on the channel you are currently commenting from. Our friend Joe Lesage, built a firewood system that also has a boom on it. Turned out really great. Not sure if you watch his channel but it is called Joe Lesage. You can see it there. Good stuff. Thanks for sharing Gary! Cheers!
This was fun watching.... Just wondering something ....Do you usually cut your trees that high off the ground. After cutting wood and logs all my life I find this can be dangerous if the tree kicks back off the stump. Keep warm enjoy your videos
Good morning Logger John! Thanks for the q. I have been asked that before - many folks do things a little differently for sure, I guess. The reason we cut up that high is for comfort and safety ( notwithstanding the potential for kick back), and because we get a lot of snow in the winter - snowmobiles and ATVs are going through the forest, so leaving it high leaves it visible (since we don't dig out the stumps very often). The alternative would be to cut it down at ground level, as low as possible but we also have pretty rocky ground. At some point if we choose to remove the stump, then we get the extra wood out first. But always interested in finding out how others do things - helps to learn and also many times I find a new or better way of doing things. Cheers and thanks again!
@@GPOutdoors, once you've cut it high, and then decide to remove the stump, I think you are better off removing the stump using the high stump for leverage and THEN cutting the extra wood from the stump rather than taking out the extra wood before removing the stump.
It's away make happy to see you and other people having they safety gear on when they cutting up wood. All ways think safety 👍👍👍. I just a video on powerking wood splitter I like Grips splitter better
both good splitters would both be better with a log lift though since they cant split vertically
Good day Matt. Good idea. Tough getting those big ones up on top and managing them through. Cheers!
Wood that splits that easily can be faster done with a maul, the splitter is for the gnarly stuff.
Good day 12. Interesting thought. I have never used one but will check them out over coffee this week. Thanks!
The orange one looks a lot safer to operate
It's my favourite J! Cheers!
Yea . . . I like the orange one design and operation better myself . .
I vote for the orange one because I like the color, lol.
I just don't understand why they didn't change the activation handle on the gripo. It really looks like a pain to have to pull it up, especially when your gloves are wet. I would add a see - saw mechanism , Where you could just smack down one side to raise the other to pull the activation handle up. I know it's a safety thing.
Good morning Charles. I think you are right - it is for safety but yes, it is definitely designed to ensure the engagement is a deliberate action. You have to pull it up pretty firmly to engage it. Have a great weekend!
Was there really coffee in that mug?? Kidding. You're doing great work Gary
LOL! There always is when I start but sometimes but the time I do the 5th re-take, its time to refill. LOL. Cheers and thanks for watching!
Do you find the working height a little low for the Gripo?
Good day Fritz. Not bad to be honest, but I am only 5'10" . Thanks for watching and for the question. Cheers!
The dual direction is just like the harbor freight $1100 vs the kinetic for $2600. For less than half the price. I'd take the dual
I like the idea of the kinetic splitter BUT I preferr to split in the vertical position with large logs and I guess they won't do that.
Good morning T. Yes, much better to split that way with the big stuff. This kinetic doesn't tilt (I think you are right - I don't think any kinetic would be able to tilt) and it is pretty hard having to lift the big stuff up onto the rail. We don't have a lot of big stuff here but my neighbour keeps an old vertical in his shed for when he needs it. Cheers and thanks for watching!
Hello , brave dual split is more efficient with hard wood than gripo kinetic. But the top le Split-Fire dual split because they are strong and more speed! 😉👍
Thanks CS! Have a great Easter weekend!
Good video, but start watching are 4:20.
Thanks Kevin! Happy New Years!
Buckin billy ray Smith has a grip pro too
The gripo needs an upgraded table along both the end and sides.
I prefer a splitter that can split vertical and horizontal
Its a good point Doc! Guy has one that does that and it certainly comes in handy for those larger rounds. Cheers!
Stand the splitter on end and you will have a verticle splitter.🤪
I think the orange, with that back and forth action, one would do a much better job with two people running it, but those super slow moving ones drive me a little nuts.
This must have been made last fall. Worst wettest we've had in a long time.
Good day Jim. Yes, so far the orange one ( the dual split) is my favourite. Cheers and thanks for watching!
Do you deliver wood to Sudbury?
LOL! Deets! Busted. LOL Happy New Year my friend! Enjoy getting settled in Sudbury! We have a few other subscribers in Sudbury. Cheers!
What happens when you put a log sideways on a kinetic log splitter?
That's an interesting question Sheik? I never tried that on the kinetic or any splitter. Kind of makes me want to try to see what would happen. Take care!
@@GPOutdoors That's how i test a log splitter. A hydraulic wil split or stop (sap comes out). I think with a kinetic log splitter you get a lot of problems. The force must go somewhere.
You've gotten quite proficient with the kinetic splitter. It's quite low. Does it come with a chair?
LOL Terry! No chair, but I know Joe Lesage could weld one up for me. LOL. Cheers and thanks! Have a good one!
I started too comment that the Dual Split was almost a clone of the harbor freight. But the Harbor has a high cyclic rate. Guy: Would have matched you if he would have just let the wood fall to the ground. He lost a lot of time throwing each piece over the the carry all.
Hey good evening Richard. I think you may be right. The nice thing about video recording this stuff is I can look back and it certainly was kind of a tortoise and hare thing. Thanks for the comment and look forward to hearing from you again. Cheers! (I'll let him know you think he kicked my butt! LOL)
I have a duel splitter from Northern Tools and after watching this video I’d say this is a totally inaccurate comparison. To get full advantage of a duel splitter you need to have two rounds on the splitter (one each side of the wedge ) also I’ve rarely had to take a full stroke to get a good split (the way Guy was). Place the round, split one direction far enough to get the next round on and split the other direction. If the first round does not split complete enough, rotate 90 degrees for the next split coming back-the first split usually falls out in the process of the next split. It’s all about technique using this machine. Not saying the duel splitter would have won this competition but it would have been much closer.
Hey good evening Cory. That's a great point. My favourite splitter is the Dual Split. And you are correct. As I have gained experience, I have been able to start doing exactly what you suggested above. I also, with smaller rounds, will add one or two on the side tables, in waiting until the current round is done. Thanks for the great thoughts and opinion. Cheers!
It’s all on how you operate it I completely agree with you 👍
I don't know about the safety of it but not having to hold the handle on the kinetic spliter was a big advantage as to speed. The Dual spliter I like the better ability to control the split. Another thing I don't like to work as fast as the kinetic one can work you. Of course you could just slow down. I would be proud to own ether one.
That was nice clean straight grain wood. East splitting... Lets see you give it a try on some gnarly knotty wood and the dual splitter will win every time.
A big, huge open area, and you fall the tree into the other trees. A classic example of, why do things an easy way when there is a hard way of doing it.
LOL Joe!! Too funny. We laughed as well. I am still learning to fell and I did a terrible job of the cut so the safest way for Guy to drop it was away from the clearing (it was leaning hard that way). I wanted to drop it into the clearing but I messed up. Anyways have a great week! Thanks for the morning laugh! Cheers!
I'd rather fall it into the woods like he did. He did it the right way, most of the limbs are in the woods Instead of the field.
What is the price difference between the two??
Good morning Pohbor! Not sure but if you check out Farmer Equipment Sales' website , I believe they have their current pricing listed for each on the site.Have a great weekend!
There is a $600 price difference between the two splitters. Brave 2 way is $2200 and the Gripo is $2800
But can thwe fast one handle wood with knots in it???????????
Good morning Scott. A great question. I put some maple and elm that had knots in them through it. Most went through with one hit but several I had to hit more than once to get through. The impact is about 28,000 lbs so it is pretty effective. I personally prefer the Dual Split over all other splitters I have tried - pops knots every time now for two years. Very seldom ever caught the wedge and really efficient being able to split both ways. Thanks for the question and all the best!
Work height too low on both.
Oops, left it standing!