Agreed with the HuoHuo take Especially when Hyper carry teams tend to want her, Robin, and Sunday now so her getting dropped when she got better makes 0 sense
Personally I do think Lingsha is tier 0 on a Firefly team or I guess in a sense a Rappa team. I get the meme is she is a Gallagher side grade but at this point with the HP inflation we know that more damage out of a sustain is a lot better than the utility which is why Huohuo probably got moved down. Am I glazing Lingsha? No not really but Break is still one of the top tier teams so Im not really surprised she got moved up. Also mans needs to relax on Bronya lol for everyone that hates Ruan Mei and Robin which is surprisingly a lot of people, Bronya gets the job done. I did think she would get moved down thanks to Sunday's release but shes still fine, but most likely youll replace her with Sunday if you do get him.
But the problem is sustains shouldn't be assessed by their teams, it should be individual. It makes sense for DPSs and Specialists to be reviewed when put in their best teams because people are going to be putting those characters in the same best teams and DPS are stuck to those teams. Amplifiers are reviewed more individually because they are versatile and can go into many different teams. A part of their appeal is their versatility. Sustains act more like amplifiers than DPSs so why are we reviewing Lingsha like she is ff/Rappa and not like Aventurine. People don't want a million sustains and certainly don't care about bis sustains all the time. She outperforms aventurine in break teams, but in any other team, she would underperform significantly. She's not a universal sustain, she's tied to the meta and should be in the meta tier. And based on prydwens own data, Lingsha can't even clear MoC 1 full cycle less than Gallagher but apparently she deserves to be T0? The problem with prydwens tierlist is that there isn't a clearly defined understanding of what classes a character into these tiers.
I assume this super angry thing was a bit, a bit too much tho, this aint it. Turn it down at least a little bit haha. That being said yes Jingliu getting demoted while for the first time in forever she gets indirect buffs (the new relic sets for both her and her supports and sunday being her new BiS support, fixing all problems she had with Bronya) is crazy. Sunday is perfect in the place he is. He only really has Jing Yuan that takes full advantage of his entire kit or DPS lingsha if you want to cope. Sunday in this is way more important for Jing Yuan than he is for Sunday which is also why I would wait befor further increasing Jing Yuans placement with new summon characters arriving soon. Huohuo getting demoted is crazy while Sunday comes with an energy battery barely anyone takes full advantage off. Yeah sure he randomly gives more energy to characters what have 200+ energy while we have like one. There is absolutly no summon character coming with an insane ult cost haha.
Prydwen is fundamentally inaccurate because of how much enemy lineup's fluctuate. QQ in Tier 3 when all it'd take is Quantum-weak enemies to bring her back to Tier 2 minimum is wild. That being said, Robin belongs in the "Neuvilette-level mistake" tier.
I think lingsha is in the correct place especially next patch which will differentiate her more than Gallagher (still I don’t like her tbh) Bronya can work with Sunday better than sparkle and Sunday to hyper buff a hypercarry QQ is sooo dead she is very bad lately, Seele can be good if she is highly invested
@ i don’t have lingsha, but everyone i’ve seen who have her says she does very good damage on fire-weak enemies like banacademy. Some i’ve even seen do very decent damage (+50k) on non-broken enemies as well
This is what you called the worst of totally opinionated gamer who can't stand facts. 3110 damage .. Lingsha, that proves it ... oh but the consistent 200k-400k damage proves nothing. Just probaly some whale doing E100S1000 right :P, while entertaining to watch some nerd rage on, probaly will be used for some meme. sadly Bro is getting to be common lately.
No way bro Sunday could never be on the same tier as Robin maybe in a patch or two but as of now robin is still better overall maybe in 3.0 he will move up I agree with them.
I have no idea how this vid got recommended to me, but your takes are so incosistent: 1. You overvalue Huohou energy regen, tbf like most of the poeple. Out of 5 relevant dps in apex only 2 benefit from extra energy. So if she benefits mostly dps from meta and lower, you could even argue she should drop t1. But her value comes from more than energy that's why 0.5 is deserved. 2. Lingsha is much better than Gallagher and everyone knows that. Yeah, she is glued to Superbreak, and there hearlly shines, but her kit is so diverse, that she can easily slot to Fua over Aveturine or be debuffer for Acheron 3. Loucha deserves t1 at least for now and i'd bump Fu Xuan to his level. Yeah before E1 he doesn't buff for shit and without E4 his buffs might not be relevant, but his heals are still easily stronger than Gallagher and i argue even Huohuo. Also Fu Xuan can sustain only as mucha as she can take, and not really protect from lifedrain (relevant only for Jade/Jingliu but still). 4. This is only my hot take, but in my opinion Gallagher in perspective is shit as long, and you are doing conctent with multiple waves. As a debuffer he barely works, Aventurine with Trend is already more proficient than him, and he only keeps up his rank because superbreak and a fact, than even when your account is shit, you don't need to heal that much against broken enemies. 5. Bronya is equal to Sparkle. Maybe they deserve to drop down both, but not one without other. Even with only one turn on buff after action advance fact, that it is still 100% is relevant, and from ranking perspective she still has at least few meta and higher sp positive dpses, who benefit from her. Ofc we all know, that s2 is minimum and s6 should be baseline in her kit, but still i don't see a reson to drop her down below Sparkle. 6. I agree that Rappa should be higher, but it makes no sense that you want all three brakers be Apex, and still belive that Lingsha don't deserve her place. 7. I don't think that Jingliu should be about t2 at least for this MoC rotation. Only relevant ice weakness is on floor 11, and even there you have better picks for that route. But with Sunday, and future rotation, which i only assume will be Ice heavy because of Herta i can easily see her clawing back. 8. Same like with Bronya/Sparkle discussion, i don't see how you would rank Qingque above Selee, when you could run Sunday with Seele for much bigger benefit, than for Qingque. And if you value AoE that much for swarm, Jade is stronger choice anyway.
to much yap, my takes are 100% accurate you takes are down bad, lingha is bad and prydwen has a hate boner for the ghost catcher girl. Also seela and bronya are dog water booty cheeks ass. When seela atks it feel like getting hit with a feather, yanKING does more damage.
@@2CANTCMEall your takes look like a huge trolling or rage bait, than something right and accurate) And btw, Lingsha, Boothill, Rappa > Fireflop. After Fugue release it won't be even a competition anymore, she is the last one, who gets massive buffs from her at E0. Sparkle couldn't beat Bronya, 50% AA sucks in most scenarios.
huohuo is not going to give you any value in Acheron or feixiao or firefly the strongest teams she is just going to suck all your skill point without the benefits from her ult because they don't need it Do you know how work in this teams it's lingsha so stop spending nonsense
@@2CANTCME I didn't say she is bad but the lingsha is better in current meta I don't think this will last long if you do not know spoiler: Aglaea needs 320 energy for her ult
I think lingsha is in the correct place especially next patch which will differentiate her more than Gallagher (still I don’t like her tbh) Bronya can work with Sunday better than sparkle and Sunday to hyper buff a hypercarry QQ is sooo dead she is very bad lately, Seele can be good if she is highly invested
They really don't like guys lol
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Agreed with the HuoHuo take
Especially when Hyper carry teams tend to want her, Robin, and Sunday now so her getting dropped when she got better makes 0 sense
That part. This tier list is absolute insanity lmao. The Ruan Mei and Acheron glazing at Prydwen needs to be studied.
@@stylerxo3654 Fr, especially when I have seen the energy costs for Herta and Agalea she will rise back up again....
If y’all thought was tweaking out this video just wait until next patch when they move Floppa down!!! 😹😹
Personally I do think Lingsha is tier 0 on a Firefly team or I guess in a sense a Rappa team. I get the meme is she is a Gallagher side grade but at this point with the HP inflation we know that more damage out of a sustain is a lot better than the utility which is why Huohuo probably got moved down. Am I glazing Lingsha? No not really but Break is still one of the top tier teams so Im not really surprised she got moved up. Also mans needs to relax on Bronya lol for everyone that hates Ruan Mei and Robin which is surprisingly a lot of people, Bronya gets the job done. I did think she would get moved down thanks to Sunday's release but shes still fine, but most likely youll replace her with Sunday if you do get him.
But the problem is sustains shouldn't be assessed by their teams, it should be individual. It makes sense for DPSs and Specialists to be reviewed when put in their best teams because people are going to be putting those characters in the same best teams and DPS are stuck to those teams. Amplifiers are reviewed more individually because they are versatile and can go into many different teams. A part of their appeal is their versatility. Sustains act more like amplifiers than DPSs so why are we reviewing Lingsha like she is ff/Rappa and not like Aventurine. People don't want a million sustains and certainly don't care about bis sustains all the time. She outperforms aventurine in break teams, but in any other team, she would underperform significantly. She's not a universal sustain, she's tied to the meta and should be in the meta tier. And based on prydwens own data, Lingsha can't even clear MoC 1 full cycle less than Gallagher but apparently she deserves to be T0?
The problem with prydwens tierlist is that there isn't a clearly defined understanding of what classes a character into these tiers.
I assume this super angry thing was a bit, a bit too much tho, this aint it. Turn it down at least a little bit haha.
That being said yes Jingliu getting demoted while for the first time in forever she gets indirect buffs (the new relic sets for both her and her supports and sunday being her new BiS support, fixing all problems she had with Bronya) is crazy.
Sunday is perfect in the place he is. He only really has Jing Yuan that takes full advantage of his entire kit or DPS lingsha if you want to cope. Sunday in this is way more important for Jing Yuan than he is for Sunday which is also why I would wait befor further increasing Jing Yuans placement with new summon characters arriving soon.
Huohuo getting demoted is crazy while Sunday comes with an energy battery barely anyone takes full advantage off. Yeah sure he randomly gives more energy to characters what have 200+ energy while we have like one. There is absolutly no summon character coming with an insane ult cost haha.
Prydwen is fundamentally inaccurate because of how much enemy lineup's fluctuate. QQ in Tier 3 when all it'd take is Quantum-weak enemies to bring her back to Tier 2 minimum is wild.
That being said, Robin belongs in the "Neuvilette-level mistake" tier.
In before we get Aglaea’s release & Prydwyn sees her ult cost, therefore bumping HuoHuo BACK up to where she should’ve stayed: T0
No serious gamer can take Prydwen seriously, their guides are always wack as hell. Their tier list is just feels and aesthetics....
I think lingsha is in the correct place especially next patch which will differentiate her more than Gallagher (still I don’t like her tbh)
Bronya can work with Sunday better than sparkle and Sunday to hyper buff a hypercarry
QQ is sooo dead she is very bad lately, Seele can be good if she is highly invested
3:30 OMG the *fire* BREAK character (Lingsha) doesn't do good on a non-fire weak stage?????? Who could've thought.
EXACTLY SHE IS BAD, THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING
@ i don’t have lingsha, but everyone i’ve seen who have her says she does very good damage on fire-weak enemies like banacademy. Some i’ve even seen do very decent damage (+50k) on non-broken enemies as well
Man Prydwyn gets more and more confusing as it goes on. Here's hoping Sunday is a really good investment
sunday work summons but next patch he would be TO
You look like you're about to literally cry over a tier list put together by some randos on the internet.
Idk bro might just be joking…
Yea i did cry later that night, it ruined my whole year tbh. I might have to get put into a ward after what I saw
This is what you called the worst of totally opinionated gamer who can't stand facts. 3110 damage .. Lingsha, that proves it ... oh but the consistent 200k-400k damage proves nothing.
Just probaly some whale doing E100S1000 right :P, while entertaining to watch some nerd rage on, probaly will be used for some meme. sadly Bro is getting to be common lately.
7:18 are these also your thoughts on Taylor Swift? 🤔
nah im a swifty so dont fuck with me
this vid is so cope I'm crying
i agree the tierlist is ass but you made it 10x worse LMAOO
MAJOR CAP I FIXED PRYDWENS MISTAKES
LINGSHA SLANDER 4 LIFE
SPEAK YOUR TRUTH
No way bro Sunday could never be on the same tier as Robin maybe in a patch or two but as of now robin is still better overall maybe in 3.0 he will move up I agree with them.
Sunday is better than Ruan Mei, and Ruan Mei is in T0 still. So there's that.
Why u tweaking.
I'm always tweaking
the cringest video ive seen
your mom
Prydwen fell off fr
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I have no idea how this vid got recommended to me, but your takes are so incosistent:
1. You overvalue Huohou energy regen, tbf like most of the poeple. Out of 5 relevant dps in apex only 2 benefit from extra energy. So if she benefits mostly dps from meta and lower, you could even argue she should drop t1. But her value comes from more than energy that's why 0.5 is deserved.
2. Lingsha is much better than Gallagher and everyone knows that. Yeah, she is glued to Superbreak, and there hearlly shines, but her kit is so diverse, that she can easily slot to Fua over Aveturine or be debuffer for Acheron
3. Loucha deserves t1 at least for now and i'd bump Fu Xuan to his level. Yeah before E1 he doesn't buff for shit and without E4 his buffs might not be relevant, but his heals are still easily stronger than Gallagher and i argue even Huohuo. Also Fu Xuan can sustain only as mucha as she can take, and not really protect from lifedrain (relevant only for Jade/Jingliu but still).
4. This is only my hot take, but in my opinion Gallagher in perspective is shit as long, and you are doing conctent with multiple waves. As a debuffer he barely works, Aventurine with Trend is already more proficient than him, and he only keeps up his rank because superbreak and a fact, than even when your account is shit, you don't need to heal that much against broken enemies.
5. Bronya is equal to Sparkle. Maybe they deserve to drop down both, but not one without other. Even with only one turn on buff after action advance fact, that it is still 100% is relevant, and from ranking perspective she still has at least few meta and higher sp positive dpses, who benefit from her. Ofc we all know, that s2 is minimum and s6 should be baseline in her kit, but still i don't see a reson to drop her down below Sparkle.
6. I agree that Rappa should be higher, but it makes no sense that you want all three brakers be Apex, and still belive that Lingsha don't deserve her place.
7. I don't think that Jingliu should be about t2 at least for this MoC rotation. Only relevant ice weakness is on floor 11, and even there you have better picks for that route. But with Sunday, and future rotation, which i only assume will be Ice heavy because of Herta i can easily see her clawing back.
8. Same like with Bronya/Sparkle discussion, i don't see how you would rank Qingque above Selee, when you could run Sunday with Seele for much bigger benefit, than for Qingque. And if you value AoE that much for swarm, Jade is stronger choice anyway.
to much yap, my takes are 100% accurate you takes are down bad, lingha is bad and prydwen has a hate boner for the ghost catcher girl. Also seela and bronya are dog water booty cheeks ass. When seela atks it feel like getting hit with a feather, yanKING does more damage.
@@2CANTCMEall your takes look like a huge trolling or rage bait, than something right and accurate)
And btw, Lingsha, Boothill, Rappa > Fireflop. After Fugue release it won't be even a competition anymore, she is the last one, who gets massive buffs from her at E0.
Sparkle couldn't beat Bronya, 50% AA sucks in most scenarios.
@chaplin1563 there all bad, if you can't break you do no damage, fugue won't save you then 😉
2.5/10 ragebait you could do better
your mom could have also done better last night, but you dont see me complaining
@@2CANTCME 0/10 overused do better
@@Srdaph I do agree she is definitely overused
@@2CANTCME yawn 🥱😴 be original 0/10
Prydwen fell off for real why tf is seele down there thats actual Bullshit 💀💀
huohuo is not going to give you any value in Acheron or feixiao or firefly the strongest teams she is just going to suck all your skill point without the benefits from her ult because they don't need it
Do you know how work in this teams it's lingsha so stop spending nonsense
No huo huo is amazing she does massive charge to acheron ukt obviously
@@2CANTCME I didn't say she is bad but the lingsha is better in current meta I don't think this will last long if you do not know
spoiler:
Aglaea needs 320 energy for her ult
I think lingsha is in the correct place especially next patch which will differentiate her more than Gallagher (still I don’t like her tbh)
Bronya can work with Sunday better than sparkle and Sunday to hyper buff a hypercarry
QQ is sooo dead she is very bad lately, Seele can be good if she is highly invested