Jonni, I just found your videos and site last week and I am excited about trying some fun projects of my own when I have time. Thanks so much for sharing!
Just as a suggestion, what I use in place of bleach in the compound to keep from molding, is a liberal amount of salt. Safe, effective as mold cannot live in saline environment wet or dry. I have just finished a sculpture of a 7 foot angel and it works great!
+QPID INDIGO Wow. 7 foot angel? I would love to see that. You're welcome to post an image on my blog, if you'd like to show it off. This would be the best page to add your comment and image: www.ultimatepapermache.com/daily-sculptors-group-page
Thanks for the invite. I would have to finish his tunic first. It's cut but it's layered ect. I am also trying out a few chiwahwah's, a clock tower, a sheep with woven and wired hair and a few extra's like a small large leaf maple platter of 3 leaves. That just need's to be painted. And another layered paint job for the angel"s eye's too. --->His name is Alto Auria : ) Will try and get pics up soon
Ultimate Paper Mache My angel is naked! lol His tunic is not finished and it's all your fault! LOL I just had to make 2 chiwahwah's! And a maple leaf platter. I'll send you some pics of the angels face and the platter is posted here today but last details and sealant yet to be done, but it is 3 maple leafs together. The chiwahwahs haven't been painted yet, and I have been sooo busy on a rush to do The Mother and Child for a friend of mine in Czech for the Chapel of St. George. A lighted piece! 3D fresco : ) You can post the leaf platter if you like right now while I send you pics of the angel face. I still havent figured out how to import photos to this site so I use my cell. Better pics of face on laptop mmm
Ultimate Paper Mache Hey thanks for the glycerin. I have tried a few ways to make clay and needed that. I dont use joint compound but may try some. I go cheep lol. Flour, PVA, salt and water. I really need to get smart to work faster on many pieces though. Strips take forever and then I carve! Hard on the hands so time to rethink. Do so want your book! : ) Havent figured out importing photos on new laptop yet. So I'll post the unfinished chiwahwah's on my timeline. Best I can do for now. One is good dog and one is naughty! The good dog is named Rupee, and the naughty one is named Rupert. You"ll see why lol but you"ll have to go to the top of my post until later when I can import. Just posted the dogs unpainted on my line. Check them out and let me know what you think. : )
Yes, you can put the paper mache clay over paper strips and paste. I usually make an armature using crumpled paper and masking tape, and put the clay directly over that.
I just subbed you tonight and was suprised that you had uploaded another video when I checked my subscriptions.I live in Australia and would like to let you know this was very informative.Thankyou very much,I am looking forward to playing around with this stuff.Thanx
OK, yes - that would take way more time than I want to spend. Besides, even if you don't use precisely the same amounts that I did, the recipe still seems to work. Sometimes I don't bother to really measure anything, and it still comes out OK. I usually try to use about 1 1/2 cup of wet paper, pressed down hard in the cup.
You can use recycled paper in the paper mache clay recipe. You just need to soak it longer so it will fall apart, and then mix for a long time so you don't end up with any lumps. Some people use an old food processor to grind up the paper.
I live in a very dry climate, so I don't add salt or bleach or clove oil. I don't actually know what salt would do to the mix - it might work just fine. I have experimented with a teaspoon of bleach added to the paper's soaking water, and it didn't hurt the mix. Several readers have suggested clove oil, which seems to work really well.
WOw!Thank you so much for the wonderful ,educative, and fun videos! I can't wait to get your book! I make plaster molds for my sculpture •and sometimes I use rubber molds too. I am excited to experiment with filling my sculpture molds with your great paper clay.I wonder if you use it in molds or if the shrinkage makes that not a workable option.
I don't use it in molds because the paper fibers cause voids, and the casting isn't as perfect as I'd like. And it does shrink. However, a lot of people use the air dry clay recipe in small molds, and they say it works really well. You can see that recipe here: ua-cam.com/video/T9lOY1xNslw/v-deo.html
Hi, I love your videos and all the animals you've made. I am going to try this. I just don't know what I can use as the bas for the clay. For example, I am making a mask with the paper mache base (on a balloon), then can I put the clay over the paper mache base? same with other things, I finished the rhino paper mache, then can I put the clay all over it? .... SOrry for my english, I am not native speaker
Hi Jonni, was wondering about the linseed oil. I thought it was to prevent mold. I know I have to use salt with the paste because I experienced what happens if you don't. I was wondering why you don't use salt with the clay recipe but you do with the paste. Is the joint compound not compatible with salt? I live in the east coast and mold forms pretty quickly here.
@edralyn1979 You can, but I don't advise it. Balloons move around too much, and they change shape depending on the temperature of the room. If you cover the top half, let the clay dry, and turn it over to do the other half, it works. But it isn't easy.
Hi Jonni :) love your videos very inspiring...I have a suggestion and probably a bit time consuming but thought it might help to get a precise measurement to the clay recipe regarding toilet paper if you counted the sheets that you use it would give more of a precise measurement LOL!!! I know this would be time consuming as I mentioned but would be more accurate and helpful...well for me anyway LOL!!! and what ply toilet paper used keep up the great work love it and thank you so much for sharing
It sounds like you may have too much paper in the mix. Try adding more jc and glue, and mix some more. You can do a small batch, by pulling out a little bit of the clay you mixed already and adding more of everything else. See if that helps. If the clay is rubbery rather than just lumpy by chance? If that's the case, let me know.
Hi love your work,I made the clay per your insruction but it still turned out lumpy and hard to work with would adding more jc help? I really need some help. I'm in Canada and the supples weren' t cheap thanks branwen
The forms I make with clay for the masks can be reused if you remove the paper mache very carefully. You can reuse the paper armatures too, but you would need to cut the paper mache apart and remove the armature.
omgs where has this been all my life? i have been working on a paper mache castle, its two feet tall, for over a year. its going in the trash and i am starting over!
i made a bunch of this clay, and i was going to overlay it onto the castle. but the clay hasnt worked out. it doesnt have the right texture. i feel like i have wasted resources! i have even added more glue to try and thin it out. it just feels and looks like shredded tp. on my castle, i have used full sheets of tp, and painted it with a thick brush with a mix of half water, and half elmers glue. it hardens well, just takes to long to dry. wish i could add a picture here of it.
Can I apply the paper mache clay directly to a clay armature, cut it, and peel it off of the armature as you did with normal paper mache in another video? Thank you for your videos!
Hi love your videos I was wondering if I can also use wood glue to make this recipe and if so could I delude it with water if it's too thick. Would any of this change up the outcome of the product? Thanks!
I don't know if wood glue would work or not. If it's a PVA glue it should work, but be sure to test a small batch to make sure. I believe I tried Elmer's Wood Glue, and it didn't work. Another brand may work better. You shouldn't need to add any water. If you experiment with wood glue, I hope you'll let us know how it turns out.
I think it would be best to leave the linseed oil out of the recipe if you use it for a mask. You might also want to do a search of my channel for the term "Pantalone" to see the recipes I use when I make masks. I found an easier method that creates a more comfortable mask that is lighter and just as strong.
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about Dap brand? It didn't work for me several years ago, but lately it seems to work OK. The formula may have changed. I'm just guessing that's what you're talking about though...
To speed up drying you can actually 'bake' paper mache. Just follow the recipe for a Pavlova and you should be fine. Preheat the oven at 120 C (250 F) and turn off. Place the object in the oven and leave for 1.5 hours. After 1.5 hours open the door and let it cool down completely. Specially the cooling down before taking it out is key in this.
Yup, that's it. It is not about your safety though. The glue tends to be rather soft when heated and touching it before it is cool may distort it. A very iffy 'may' but why chance it right?
I prefer another method for making masks and helmets. Do a search of my channel for the word "Pantalone," to see how I like to do it. The paper mache clay does have a mild odor if you include the linseed oil, and it's extremely hard - so if you use it, make sure the inside of the helmet is really smooth, or it won't be comfortable. The PM clay is strong enough on it's own, but I do like the lighter results that I get from the shop towel/glue and plaster paste, but that's just my opinion.
Hi, I'm from Switzerland and joint compound is I guess also called 'Fugenmasse' in my country.. but I couldn't find it anywhere in the same consistenty as you showed. It's alway a dry powder which I have to mix with water by their direction.. can I also use that? Or will it not work? 🙈
+Aarabi Kugabalan I believe most of the powdered versions contain plaster, which might cause your paper mache clay to harden too quickly. However, some people have said they use it, and it works. Give it a try, and see what happens.
It will get soft if you leave it standing in water for some time. I recommend sealing it with a good acrylic varnish after it's dry (and after painting, if you intend to add color). The clay doesn't melt, but it shouldn't be considered waterproof.
I was wondering if I could request some information on how to do neoclassical angels wings or angels (like the angle Michael).. I LOVE Your videos...thank you soooo much!!
Stacy Medina The only projects I've done so far with sort-of realistic wing feathers is the raven: ua-cam.com/video/aJ0LR6zYRCk/v-deo.html and the angel tree topper: ua-cam.com/video/70PwcvYujok/v-deo.html It would be interesting to try a more classical sculpture - I'll put in on my to-do list.
I'm not quite sure what you mean. The recipe won't work without the joint compound, but if you don't want to use it for some reason, do a google search for Paper pulp.
Yes, I have a lot of videos about using the paper mache clay. You can find them here: goo.gl/V8Msnu Or come visit my blog and see my tutorials here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/
Wow - that's great. I hope you'll show your final project on the Daily Sculptors page on my site. I would love to see it, and I know my readers would, too. www.ultimatepapermache.com/daily-sculptors-group-page
The finished sculpture should last for decades, as long as you keep it dry. The time it takes to dry depends on how thickly it's applied, the humidity in the air, etc. Put your sculpture in front of a fan to speed it up.
Do you have a recipe for using recycled paper? I want to use up the newspaper/junk mail in a paper clay and was wondering if your recipe would work by replacing the toilet paper with recycled paper.
i have a question.....i have some ABS plastic molds for plaster or concrete. Have you ever used paper mache in a plastic mold? If so, what formula mache works best. Most of these molds are flat molds for wall plaques. Any ideas? Thank you :)
+Rick Burrows Hi Rick. I haven't used paper mache with molds, but for flat items it should work OK. The problem with traditional paper strips and paste will be the details - the paper will have a hard time bending enough for finer details. Other than that, any of the paste recipes should work.
Paste is made of flour and water, and is used to hold pieces of paper together. The paper mache clay is a home-made product that replaces both the paste and the paper, and is faster to apply. You spread it on like frosting a cake. You can see the pm clay recipe on my blog here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-clay
I don't know how. You might want to try one of the commercial air dry clays. One of my blog readers recently said he likes the Amaco brand, but I haven't tried it yet and I don't know how well it works or how hard it is when it dries. I think this is the one he was talking about: amzn.to/2w4urJl
Anyone know if substituting sanded grout for joint compound would work? I have a lot leftover from making a mosaic. If I get no answer I'll probably try at least a small amount.
Bowfinchaos The grout has Portland cement in it, so I don't know how it will work with the other ingredients. It may work, and it may not. Be sure to give it a try and let us know what happens. Also, check to see if the dried result is waterproof - that would be a nice, if it turns out that it is - but with the absorbent paper in there, it probably won't be.
Meg Tereniak I've never made a pinata, but I'm pretty sure the paper mache clay recipe would not work - it dries too hard, and might send shards flying if someone was able to break it. The paper strips and paste would be the way to go. You could make an armature the way I do, with crumpled paper and masking tape, and then remove it after the paper mache is dry. - But be sure to ask an actual expert. :)
Ultimate Paper Mache can I just use Elmer's glue tollet paper and all purpose flour to make the paper clay? and what if I use Elmer's carpenter's wood glue in steed of Elmer's all purpose glue? by the way I am using this for a Shinto kitsune (fox) mask that go's in front of my ninja mask and I wood like it to be as strong as it can be cuz it is going to be part of my armor and it's real armor not costume so it will be going throw a hard time
usmcmajormichael I have not tested the recipe you mention. It might work, but I think the combination of Elmer's and the calcium in the joint compound is what makes the paper mache clay so dry so hard. It won't hold up to real fighting, though - with real knives or guns or anything like that. You might want to consider using fiberglass and resin, instead. Or try out your ideas, and see what happens.
ok ^-^ thanks, but it won't be in a gun fight thow and thy used a hard wood or paper mache just like the Japanese's paper mache armor witch is just paper but ever 2 or 3 larers thin 1 larer cotton or canvas thin paper est. till 1/2 in 18mm thick but I wanted to test paper mache clay for the mask. do you know what joint compound is name over here in japan?
Ultimate Paper Mache oh and by the way im only using the paper mache clay to make a form for the mask not as the mask so I need to be ably to take the clay out the back am going to make the mask really thick so I can use a drimel (and dust mask) to carve the nose mouth ears and eyes
Please tell me the price of ULTIMATE ANIMALS BOOK. Does this book have the wild African animals templates, if not please give me the name and the price of the book so I can send for it right away. Thank you very much Rita
Hi Rita. The Kindle version of my book is $6.99, the print version is 19.95. You can find my book here: amzn.to/1nMUO3a Be sure to click on the "Look inside" button or the photo of the cover. A photograph of all the projects is on the table of contents page. There is an elephant in the book, but it's a completely different type of pattern than the African animal patterns that I sell on my website. Those patterns are not available in book form. You can find them here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/patterns Thanks for asking! 😊
The recipe is on my blog. There's a link to the blog in the description below the video, above, and there's a link to the paper mache clay recipe at the top of every page.
There's nothing wrong with it, as joint compound. But a few years ago I tried using it with the paper mache clay, and it turned the mixture, immediately, into little rubber balls. I think they added borax, to combat mold, and it had some weird reaction with the Elmer's. I tried it again recently, and although that batch stiffened up faster than I wanted it to, it was actually usable. If you have some out in your garage, mix a tablespoon of the Dap with some Elmer's, and see what happens. If it doesn't make a rubbery mess, then they've changed the formula again, and you can use it.
Abel Pinales I've been making papercraft patterns for paper mache, and I put plastic tape or clear shelf liner over the pieces before cutting them out, to keep the paper mache (or paper mache clay) from getting the card stock wet and ruining it. then I cover the whole thing with masking tape after it's all put together, so the paper mache will have something to stick to. You can see how the process works with paper strips and paste here: ua-cam.com/video/PZZJmaA5rBw/v-deo.html and with the paper mache clay recipe here: ua-cam.com/video/ojKDEGulknc/v-deo.html
Thank you so much! I just had a mask break today but knowing i dont have to do paper strips and can just use masking tape will make it go a lot faster. Also I tried to do the paper clay recepie, but it was so hard my electric mixer gave out.. is there anything i can do to make it a bit easier on my next mixer? Thank you so much!
Abel Pinales Is it possible that you put in more paper than you needed? Toilet paper comes in different size rolls, so you need to measure the wet paper before adding it to the recipe. I think that's the only thing that could stiffen the recipe so much that it would cause problems with a mixer.,
Their formula contains something that, when mixed with Elmer's glue, turns the mixture into little rubber balls. It's great joint compound when used for making or patching walls. It just doesn't work with PVA glue.
Ultimate Paper Mache 😁, agree. You would be the first person on you tube to make a full bodied deer... I've looked and could not find one, only heads but not full body. Your work is amazing. Watching your videos has inspired me to attempt to make one of my own. Thank you for sharing your tips and secrets.
You can sculpt the details with crumpled foil and masking tape. It's easier to control the shapes with foil instead of crumpled paper. There are several guest posts on my blog by people who have made paper mache horses, and they might have some good ideas for you. This one if really popular: www.ultimatepapermache.com/meet-amos-my-roping-horse
No, sorry. I don't have a very scientific mind, and I haven't tried any other recipes. The only other paper mache clay recipe I know of is a variation of this one that includes liquid starch, which was created by the folks at Stolloween. I haven't tried it.
Thanks! I tried ClayShay, from Aves. I think it has plaster in it...it hardens within an hour, and dries over several days. I'll try a few variations, and let you know how it goes.
Does this work with recycled toilet paper? There are serious environmental concerns with premium toilet tissue with regard to the deforestation of the North American temperate rain forest.
By 'recycled' I assume you mean TP made with recycled paper? If so, yes, you can use any kind of paper in the mix, if you let it soak long enough to let the fibers fall apart.
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+snowfire70 I find using headphones (the kind that look like earmuffs and have a good bit of padding that surrounds and cups your ear completely) helps concentrate the sound from the computer, while eliminating/reducing outside noise. It doesn't have to be an expensive one, but it does need to fit snugly around the ear. Hope this helps.
Jonni, I just found your videos and site last week and I am excited about trying some fun projects of my own when I have time. Thanks so much for sharing!
Just as a suggestion, what I use in place of bleach in the compound to keep from molding, is a liberal amount of salt. Safe, effective as mold cannot live in saline environment wet or dry. I have just finished a sculpture of a 7 foot angel and it works great!
+QPID INDIGO Wow. 7 foot angel? I would love to see that. You're welcome to post an image on my blog, if you'd like to show it off. This would be the best page to add your comment and image: www.ultimatepapermache.com/daily-sculptors-group-page
Thanks for the invite. I would have to finish his tunic first. It's cut but it's layered ect. I am also trying out a few chiwahwah's, a clock tower, a sheep with woven and wired hair and a few extra's like a small large leaf maple platter of 3 leaves. That just need's to be painted. And another layered paint job for the angel"s eye's too. --->His name is Alto Auria : )
Will try and get pics up soon
H2O2 mmm. Salt is cheap lol but I would like to know more about this so I'll look it up. Thanks for posting! Big Hug! : )
Ultimate Paper Mache My angel is naked! lol His tunic is not finished and it's all your fault! LOL I just had to make 2 chiwahwah's! And a maple leaf platter. I'll send you some pics of the angels face and the platter is posted here today but last details and sealant yet to be done, but it is 3 maple leafs together. The chiwahwahs haven't been painted yet, and I have been sooo busy on a rush to do The Mother and Child for a friend of mine in Czech for the Chapel of St. George. A lighted piece! 3D fresco : )
You can post the leaf platter if you like right now while I send you pics of the angel face. I still havent figured out how to import photos to this site so I use my cell. Better pics of face on laptop mmm
Ultimate Paper Mache Hey thanks for the glycerin. I have tried a few ways to make clay and needed that. I dont use joint compound but may try some. I go cheep lol. Flour, PVA, salt and water. I really need to get smart to work faster on many pieces though. Strips take forever and then I carve! Hard on the hands so time to rethink. Do so want your book! : )
Havent figured out importing photos on new laptop yet. So I'll post the unfinished chiwahwah's on my timeline. Best I can do for now. One is good dog and one is naughty! The good dog is named Rupee, and the naughty one is named Rupert. You"ll see why lol but you"ll have to go to the top of my post until later when I can import. Just posted the dogs unpainted on my line. Check them out and let me know what you think. : )
Yes, you can put the paper mache clay over paper strips and paste. I usually make an armature using crumpled paper and masking tape, and put the clay directly over that.
Yes, that should work. If you use a cardboard armature, be sure to cover both sides, to keep it from warping as it dries.
So informative. Thank you. Just came across a couple of your videos. I would love to give this a try. Brilliant 😃
I live in Australia :) thanks again for all your videos can't wait to see more :)
Glycerin. I use it to help preserve snake skins. Its part of my process. Thanks for your videos.
This video cleared up a lot of questions that I had after using your clay recipe, thanks for posting this Jonni!
Cinnamon Willis You're welcome. I'm glad it helped.
I just subbed you tonight and was suprised that you had uploaded another video when I checked my subscriptions.I live in Australia and would like to let you know this was very informative.Thankyou very much,I am looking forward to playing around with this stuff.Thanx
Thank you, I'm going to see what I can come up with. Your videos have been very inspirational.
OK, yes - that would take way more time than I want to spend. Besides, even if you don't use precisely the same amounts that I did, the recipe still seems to work. Sometimes I don't bother to really measure anything, and it still comes out OK. I usually try to use about 1 1/2 cup of wet paper, pressed down hard in the cup.
Thank you for sharing this information 💫🙋♀️💫
You are so welcome. 😊
you saved my school project yes
I'm glad I could help! 😄
Uhh.... Would this clean off my moms mixer? Haha. You're so amazing!! Thank you for your videos and time.
You can use recycled paper in the paper mache clay recipe. You just need to soak it longer so it will fall apart, and then mix for a long time so you don't end up with any lumps. Some people use an old food processor to grind up the paper.
Thank you so much, this so inspiring and informative, lovely voice and delivery as well, can't wait to watch more. Scary-not really that scary!
I live in a very dry climate, so I don't add salt or bleach or clove oil. I don't actually know what salt would do to the mix - it might work just fine. I have experimented with a teaspoon of bleach added to the paper's soaking water, and it didn't hurt the mix. Several readers have suggested clove oil, which seems to work really well.
WOw!Thank you so much for the wonderful ,educative, and fun videos! I can't wait to get your book! I make plaster molds for my sculpture •and sometimes I use rubber molds too. I am excited to experiment with filling my sculpture molds with your great paper clay.I wonder if you use it in molds or if the shrinkage makes that not a workable option.
I don't use it in molds because the paper fibers cause voids, and the casting isn't as perfect as I'd like. And it does shrink. However, a lot of people use the air dry clay recipe in small molds, and they say it works really well. You can see that recipe here: ua-cam.com/video/T9lOY1xNslw/v-deo.html
Hi, I love your videos and all the animals you've made. I am going to try this. I just don't know what I can use as the bas for the clay. For example, I am making a mask with the paper mache base (on a balloon), then can I put the clay over the paper mache base? same with other things, I finished the rhino paper mache, then can I put the clay all over it? .... SOrry for my english, I am not native speaker
Wonderful, I love it and I just saw your book on Ebay I will buy it tks
Hi Jonni, was wondering about the linseed oil. I thought it was to prevent mold. I know I have to use salt with the paste because I experienced what happens if you don't. I was wondering why you don't use salt with the clay recipe but you do with the paste. Is the joint compound not compatible with salt? I live in the east coast and mold forms pretty quickly here.
It will crack if you put a layer over a hard surface that can't shrink when the clay shrinks. It doesn't shrink very much, but it does shrink some.
@edralyn1979 You can, but I don't advise it. Balloons move around too much, and they change shape depending on the temperature of the room. If you cover the top half, let the clay dry, and turn it over to do the other half, it works. But it isn't easy.
Hi Jonni :) love your videos very inspiring...I have a suggestion and probably a bit time consuming but thought it might help to get a precise measurement to the clay recipe regarding toilet paper if you counted the sheets that you use it would give more of a precise measurement LOL!!! I know this would be time consuming as I mentioned but would be more accurate and helpful...well for me anyway LOL!!! and what ply toilet paper used keep up the great work love it and thank you so much for sharing
will you should how to make a armature to reuse, or are all of these one use?
Hi, i was wondering if you can dry it out in a oven because i have a project due and it cant wait sooo long D:
excellent! many thanks!
It sounds like you may have too much paper in the mix. Try adding more jc and glue, and mix some more. You can do a small batch, by pulling out a little bit of the clay you mixed already and adding more of everything else. See if that helps.
If the clay is rubbery rather than just lumpy by chance? If that's the case, let me know.
Hi love your work,I made the clay per your insruction but it still turned out lumpy and hard to work with would adding more jc help? I really need some help. I'm in Canada and the supples weren' t cheap
thanks
branwen
The forms I make with clay for the masks can be reused if you remove the paper mache very carefully. You can reuse the paper armatures too, but you would need to cut the paper mache apart and remove the armature.
omgs where has this been all my life? i have been working on a paper mache castle, its two feet tall, for over a year. its going in the trash and i am starting over!
That's a big project to give up on. Are you sure you can't save it?
i made a bunch of this clay, and i was going to overlay it onto the castle. but the clay hasnt worked out. it doesnt have the right texture. i feel like i have wasted resources! i have even added more glue to try and thin it out. it just feels and looks like shredded tp. on my castle, i have used full sheets of tp, and painted it with a thick brush with a mix of half water, and half elmers glue. it hardens well, just takes to long to dry. wish i could add a picture here of it.
Can I apply the paper mache clay directly to a clay armature, cut it, and peel it off of the armature as you did with normal paper mache in another video?
Thank you for your videos!
great videos! I hope to eventually make wall heads of my imaginary characters.
Sounds great. I hope we can see them when they're done.
Thank you so much for sharing this.
You're welcome.
Hi love your videos I was wondering if I can also use wood glue to make this recipe and if so could I delude it with water if it's too thick. Would any of this change up the outcome of the product? Thanks!
I don't know if wood glue would work or not. If it's a PVA glue it should work, but be sure to test a small batch to make sure. I believe I tried Elmer's Wood Glue, and it didn't work. Another brand may work better. You shouldn't need to add any water. If you experiment with wood glue, I hope you'll let us know how it turns out.
thanks jonni!
Very informational, appreciate the video :)
If I wanted to use this clay to make walls for a small (10 inches around) circular doll house would it be suitable for that?
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I think it would be best to leave the linseed oil out of the recipe if you use it for a mask. You might also want to do a search of my channel for the term "Pantalone" to see the recipes I use when I make masks. I found an easier method that creates a more comfortable mask that is lighter and just as strong.
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about Dap brand? It didn't work for me several years ago, but lately it seems to work OK. The formula may have changed. I'm just guessing that's what you're talking about though...
To speed up drying you can actually 'bake' paper mache. Just follow the recipe for a Pavlova and you should be fine. Preheat the oven at 120 C (250 F) and turn off. Place the object in the oven and leave for 1.5 hours. After 1.5 hours open the door and let it cool down completely. Specially the cooling down before taking it out is key in this.
Yup, that's it. It is not about your safety though. The glue tends to be rather soft when heated and touching it before it is cool may distort it. A very iffy 'may' but why chance it right?
does the clay tend to crack while it dries like the regular modeling clay?
I prefer another method for making masks and helmets. Do a search of my channel for the word "Pantalone," to see how I like to do it. The paper mache clay does have a mild odor if you include the linseed oil, and it's extremely hard - so if you use it, make sure the inside of the helmet is really smooth, or it won't be comfortable. The PM clay is strong enough on it's own, but I do like the lighter results that I get from the shop towel/glue and plaster paste, but that's just my opinion.
I never use a layer any thicker than 1/4 inch. I usually try to get it thinner than that. If it's too thick, it takes too long to dry.
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Hi, I'm from Switzerland and joint compound is I guess also called 'Fugenmasse' in my country.. but I couldn't find it anywhere in the same consistenty as you showed. It's alway a dry powder which I have to mix with water by their direction.. can I also use that? Or will it not work? 🙈
+Aarabi Kugabalan I believe most of the powdered versions contain plaster, which might cause your paper mache clay to harden too quickly. However, some people have said they use it, and it works. Give it a try, and see what happens.
How durable is it when dried? And will it get soft again when it gets wet after it has dried? Thanks
It will get soft if you leave it standing in water for some time. I recommend sealing it with a good acrylic varnish after it's dry (and after painting, if you intend to add color). The clay doesn't melt, but it shouldn't be considered waterproof.
I was wondering if I could request some information on how to do neoclassical angels wings or angels (like the angle Michael).. I LOVE Your videos...thank you soooo much!!
Stacy Medina The only projects I've done so far with sort-of realistic wing feathers is the raven: ua-cam.com/video/aJ0LR6zYRCk/v-deo.html and the angel tree topper: ua-cam.com/video/70PwcvYujok/v-deo.html
It would be interesting to try a more classical sculpture - I'll put in on my to-do list.
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What's the thickest you can get it?
Could you use a heat gun or hair dryer to dry it fast? I don't like having to wait days for my work to dry completely.
It would take a long time. It would be better to put the piece in front of a fan, but it will still take at least 24 hours.
Can I use to go over a wooden surface?
You can use any paper, as long as you soak it long enough so it falls apart.
Is joint compound only being used to make it smoother or does it make the clay as well?
I'm not quite sure what you mean. The recipe won't work without the joint compound, but if you don't want to use it for some reason, do a google search for Paper pulp.
Will this give a smoother result than using paper strips? Can you sand it down when it's dry?
Yes, you can smooth it with a damp knife. You can also sand it, but be sure to use a mask. You don't want the fine powder in your lungs.
I understand the recipe but do you have a video on how to make the initial structure of animals or whatever?
Yes, I have a lot of videos about using the paper mache clay. You can find them here: goo.gl/V8Msnu
Or come visit my blog and see my tutorials here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/
thank you so much for this video, you may have just saved my university project haha
Wow - that's great. I hope you'll show your final project on the Daily Sculptors page on my site. I would love to see it, and I know my readers would, too. www.ultimatepapermache.com/daily-sculptors-group-page
Ultimate Paper Mache i defiently will! Keep up the good work!
im planning on making a mask, is it okay to have lineseed oil near my face?
how long does it last?? And how long does it take to dry ?????
The finished sculpture should last for decades, as long as you keep it dry. The time it takes to dry depends on how thickly it's applied, the humidity in the air, etc. Put your sculpture in front of a fan to speed it up.
Do you have a recipe for using recycled paper? I want to use up the newspaper/junk mail in a paper clay and was wondering if your recipe would work by replacing the toilet paper with recycled paper.
i have a question.....i have some ABS plastic molds for plaster or concrete. Have you ever used paper mache in a plastic mold? If so, what formula mache works best. Most of these molds are flat molds for wall plaques. Any ideas?
Thank you :)
+Rick Burrows Hi Rick. I haven't used paper mache with molds, but for flat items it should work OK. The problem with traditional paper strips and paste will be the details - the paper will have a hard time bending enough for finer details. Other than that, any of the paste recipes should work.
Thank you for your feedback :)
sorry I'm a complete NEWBIE with this, what is the difference betwin paste and Clay ? and what do you use it for?
Paste is made of flour and water, and is used to hold pieces of paper together. The paper mache clay is a home-made product that replaces both the paste and the paper, and is faster to apply. You spread it on like frosting a cake. You can see the pm clay recipe on my blog here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-clay
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I get it now :) I'll let you know when I finish my first one :)
Yikes! I am using Joint compound...the brand...why can we not use this? I thought I had it correct ;(
Yes, you can dry it in an oven. Don't go over 250F, though, or the glue starts to burn and your kitchen won't smell good.
is there any other way to make paper mache clay like real clay for molding instead of applying thin layer
I don't know how. You might want to try one of the commercial air dry clays. One of my blog readers recently said he likes the Amaco brand, but I haven't tried it yet and I don't know how well it works or how hard it is when it dries. I think this is the one he was talking about: amzn.to/2w4urJl
Anyone know if substituting sanded grout for joint compound would work? I have a lot leftover from making a mosaic. If I get no answer I'll probably try at least a small amount.
Bowfinchaos The grout has Portland cement in it, so I don't know how it will work with the other ingredients. It may work, and it may not. Be sure to give it a try and let us know what happens. Also, check to see if the dried result is waterproof - that would be a nice, if it turns out that it is - but with the absorbent paper in there, it probably won't be.
Ultimate Paper Mache thanks for the reply. yeah not sure if it would be waterproof.
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Can you use this on a balloon?
Jonni, just finding your videos. Any tips for making pinatas?
Meg Tereniak I've never made a pinata, but I'm pretty sure the paper mache clay recipe would not work - it dries too hard, and might send shards flying if someone was able to break it. The paper strips and paste would be the way to go. You could make an armature the way I do, with crumpled paper and masking tape, and then remove it after the paper mache is dry. - But be sure to ask an actual expert. :)
Ultimate Paper Mache can I just use Elmer's glue tollet paper and all purpose flour to make the paper clay? and what if I use Elmer's carpenter's wood glue in steed of Elmer's all purpose glue? by the way I am using this for a Shinto kitsune (fox) mask that go's in front of my ninja mask and I wood like it to be as strong as it can be cuz it is going to be part of my armor and it's real armor not costume so it will be going throw a hard time
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I have not tested the recipe you mention. It might work, but I think the combination of Elmer's and the calcium in the joint compound is what makes the paper mache clay so dry so hard. It won't hold up to real fighting, though - with real knives or guns or anything like that. You might want to consider using fiberglass and resin, instead. Or try out your ideas, and see what happens.
ok ^-^ thanks, but it won't be in a gun fight thow and thy used a hard wood or paper mache just like the Japanese's paper mache armor witch is just paper but ever 2 or 3 larers thin 1 larer cotton or canvas thin paper est. till 1/2 in 18mm thick but I wanted to test paper mache clay for the mask. do you know what joint compound is name over here in japan?
Ultimate Paper Mache oh and by the way im only using the paper mache clay to make a form for the mask not as the mask so I need to be ably to take the clay out the back am going to make the mask really thick so I can use a drimel (and dust mask) to carve the nose mouth ears and eyes
can we use kitchen paper instead of toilet paper
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How would I make a short furred cat? I have the base covered in smoothed paper mache clay. Now what?
Buenas. Tardes en donde puedo comprar el cráneo de plástico para hacer las máscaras
Gracias por su atencion
I buy my mask forms and my plastic skull on amazon.com
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Please tell me the price of ULTIMATE ANIMALS BOOK. Does this book have the wild African animals templates, if not
please give me the name and the price of the book so I can send for it right away. Thank you very much Rita
Hi Rita. The Kindle version of my book is $6.99, the print version is 19.95. You can find my book here: amzn.to/1nMUO3a
Be sure to click on the "Look inside" button or the photo of the cover. A photograph of all the projects is on the table of contents page. There is an elephant in the book, but it's a completely different type of pattern than the African animal patterns that I sell on my website. Those patterns are not available in book form. You can find them here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/patterns
Thanks for asking! 😊
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Where i can buy the skull ?
Thank you
I buy my mask forms and my plastic skull on amazon.com
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The recipe is on my blog. There's a link to the blog in the description below the video, above, and there's a link to the paper mache clay recipe at the top of every page.
What's wrong with the DAP brand joint compound?
There's nothing wrong with it, as joint compound. But a few years ago I tried using it with the paper mache clay, and it turned the mixture, immediately, into little rubber balls. I think they added borax, to combat mold, and it had some weird reaction with the Elmer's. I tried it again recently, and although that batch stiffened up faster than I wanted it to, it was actually usable. If you have some out in your garage, mix a tablespoon of the Dap with some Elmer's, and see what happens. If it doesn't make a rubbery mess, then they've changed the formula again, and you can use it.
Would this work with a paper Craft? Or would I need to put masking tape on it?
Abel Pinales I've been making papercraft patterns for paper mache, and I put plastic tape or clear shelf liner over the pieces before cutting them out, to keep the paper mache (or paper mache clay) from getting the card stock wet and ruining it. then I cover the whole thing with masking tape after it's all put together, so the paper mache will have something to stick to. You can see how the process works with paper strips and paste here: ua-cam.com/video/PZZJmaA5rBw/v-deo.html and with the paper mache clay recipe here: ua-cam.com/video/ojKDEGulknc/v-deo.html
Thank you so much! I just had a mask break today but knowing i dont have to do paper strips and can just use masking tape will make it go a lot faster. Also I tried to do the paper clay recepie, but it was so hard my electric mixer gave out.. is there anything i can do to make it a bit easier on my next mixer? Thank you so much!
Abel Pinales Is it possible that you put in more paper than you needed? Toilet paper comes in different size rolls, so you need to measure the wet paper before adding it to the recipe. I think that's the only thing that could stiffen the recipe so much that it would cause problems with a mixer.,
I think so, but I haven't tried it.
calcium carbonate in the joint compound is a type of marble dust.
Why can't/shouldn't use DAP joint compound?
Their formula contains something that, when mixed with Elmer's glue, turns the mixture into little rubber balls. It's great joint compound when used for making or patching walls. It just doesn't work with PVA glue.
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Would love to see you make a reindeer for xmas.
That would be fun. Not this year though, I'm afraid. Not enough time... ;)
Ultimate Paper Mache 😁, agree. You would be the first person on you tube to make a full bodied deer... I've looked and could not find one, only heads but not full body. Your work is amazing. Watching your videos has inspired me to attempt to make one of my own. Thank you for sharing your tips and secrets.
Be sure to see Rona's guest post on my blog. She made a life-sized reindeer. www.ultimatepapermache.com/how-to-make-a-life-sized-paper-mache-reindeer
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Jonni, i'm making a horse running for My friend, but the head is My challenge ¿How can i do the little details?
You can sculpt the details with crumpled foil and masking tape. It's easier to control the shapes with foil instead of crumpled paper. There are several guest posts on my blog by people who have made paper mache horses, and they might have some good ideas for you. This one if really popular: www.ultimatepapermache.com/meet-amos-my-roping-horse
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I'm looking for the least amount of shrinkage. Do you have a table of comparison between this, and other recipes?
No, sorry. I don't have a very scientific mind, and I haven't tried any other recipes. The only other paper mache clay recipe I know of is a variation of this one that includes liquid starch, which was created by the folks at Stolloween. I haven't tried it.
Thanks!
I tried ClayShay, from Aves. I think it has plaster in it...it hardens within an hour, and dries over several days. I'll try a few variations, and let you know how it goes.
sense i found you, my dioramas cost about 1/3 what they used to cost.
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can you use baby oil instead?
Yes, you can.
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Does this work with recycled toilet paper? There are serious environmental concerns with premium toilet tissue with regard to the deforestation of the North American temperate rain forest.
By 'recycled' I assume you mean TP made with recycled paper? If so, yes, you can use any kind of paper in the mix, if you let it soak long enough to let the fibers fall apart.
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I'm afraid that Google translate didn't work well for your comment, and I'm not sure what you're asking. Sorry...
sound is not good..can hardly hear you
Why is it so difficult to find just the recipes? Takes forever and ends up being very confusing.
You can find all of my recipes here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/recipes
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i simply can not hear you, doggon it!
snowfire70 I admit the audio on this video isn't very good - but if you turn up the volume on your computer it might help.
+snowfire70 I find using headphones (the kind that look like earmuffs and have a good bit of padding that surrounds and cups your ear completely) helps concentrate the sound from the computer, while eliminating/reducing outside noise. It doesn't have to be an expensive one, but it does need to fit snugly around the ear. Hope this helps.
you have a very big bottle of glue
Maddie Parkes It's much cheaper by the gallon. ;)
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