Jason Carty & Steven Cockcroft - aka the "Beatles Brains of Ireland!"
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- In which the men behind the 'Nothing Is Real' podcast tune in for a Beatles Special that takes in Lennon's private island and his night with with an Irish showband, the lost recording of In Spite of All The Danger, underrated McCartney moments ("made her look a little like a military man"), the high-risk private life of Brian Epstein, "why were the Beatles having a dinner party with their dentist?", how Dublin's Adelphi Cinema celebrates its greatest night, and the unalloyed joy of getting to play the final chord of A Day In The Life on the Abbey Road piano. Plus the greatest Beatles track ever recorded.
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These guys are brilliant. Their podcast is superb.
This was a splendid episode , well done to the 4 concerned .
It was great to put a face to Jason and the Klaus Voorman-esque Stephen after spending the last year or so listening in with only my imagination of Bilbo and Frodo to give them structure in my own little Pepperland.
Jason Carty's knowledge and inciteful comments make this podcast as well as Nothing is Real. Fascinating listening to someone coming to the Fabs so long after it was all over.
Ah!!! 4 of my favourite UA-camrs in these times! Great having these two on as guests. Their discussions on the fabs are some of the best out there! Lovely stuff!
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Can I just say what a lot of pleasure the four of you bring, all is well with world it feels like.
Fantastic episode, from a fellow Irish man! I'm looking forward to checking out the guy's podcast. Brilliant stuff.
It is the best Beatles podcast, I think
@Dez Foley - these guys are truly great; another great podcast is Winter of Discontent - a deep-dive into the Get Back/Let it Be sessions. Fascinating stuff!
NIR is head and shoulders above all other Beatle podcasts, frank, honest, insigjhtful, they pull no punches, fans but not sychophants, long may they continue
I am simply speechless. . . this was so fantastic !!
‘Yoko ate my biscuits…’ would be a good title for a Beatles podcast.
Loved this! Always good to listen to these guys talk about the beatles and actually see them at it as well 😁 great chat!
Thank you x
Funnily enough, Mark Ellen has always reminded me of early (pre Paul is dead) Paul McCartney. I will always remember how refreshing it was (for someone of my age) to have Dave and Mark take over TOGWT; much preferred them to Andy Kershaw, if not Annie Nightingale (equally good). My absolute favourite Mark Ellen moment was when he looked Don Henley square in the eyes and asked him with (as I remember, at least) a barely concealed smirk, how he would respond to the accusation that The Eagles were essentially 'a boring band?'. I wonder if Mark remembers that edgy moment of music television (how could he not?) and elaborate on why he felt it necessary to put the (now) famously arrogant Mr Henley on the spot like that ? The look of shock on Don's face was priceless. He was clearly used to interviewers fawning and flattering him. Did this happen, or did I dream it ?
Hope to get the attention of Jason or Stephen and just want to plant the seed of an idea for a future episode.
What about covering the adverts that appeared in the NME/MM at the time of release? ....The NME often used an advert as the front page , so the ads start off minor and inconsequential at the beginning of their career , tucked away inside the paper.
However as it all built up they were often front page adverts for the early tours , LP’s , EP’s and singles , often unique images used to push the product.....
The first tour advert you could still see Ringo “mallen streak” in his hair , the Butcher Sleeve image with computer graphics for Paperback Writer , full page , front page advert to watch the Shea Stadium gig on the BBC , Paul with the parrot on his shoulder at the piano for Hey Jude , the map of Liverpool for Strawberry Fields Forever 45..
The list is endless , most images will be available on the net for research purposes or contact me if you want me to photograph mine for you......it would make for a great episode ,especially if you uploaded them for the listeners to view as they listened.?
Really enjoyed this, thanks everyone. When the Abbey Road webcam was mentioned, I thought, "bollocks will there be anyone there", went to the live cam today about lunchtime, and there's father orchestrating the 4 children in the four poses, with their mam taking the picture. All lovely stuff!!
Another extraordinary edition.These two Guys are very knowledgable and deliver.Very interesting point of view and insights illustrated with show and tell memorabilia.
Paul McCartney played Hey Jude to the regulars in The Oakley Arms pub in the village Harrold in Bedfordshire in 1968. It was released a month later. Paul danced with a regular and kissed her on her cheek which made Derek Taylor cry. A wonderful story.
"I don’t think I ever hated anyone as much as I hated Paul in the summer of 1968."
-Derek Taylor
Great stuff guys. Fascinating insights that bring home once again the truth that The Fab Four are universal and forever! Thanks all.
I got married in 2003, and we played Here Comes The Sun as we were signing the register.
I did the same thing in 2018
@@sratus we had the band play it as our first dance!
I remember seeing "Strawberry fields" at the end of a programme circa mid 80's, may've been The Tube though
Simply Amazing. So much I didn't know! Greatness.
My intro album was A Collection of Oldies But Goldies which I got from my parents around 1975/6, but my mam had a few early singles which had lit my Fab flames.
And my first record player was an old 60s Gerrard portable, which I experienced the total retro 60's vibe
Me too - my first ever album!
This is solid gold.
Near certain it was Rock Around The Clock that showed Strawberry Fields Forever. I watched it the entire day. Roddy Frame in the afternoon and The Cure at night and I think I recall Freebird being the very last song at about 5am.
Roddy Frame! Now he would make a good guest on here. Incredibly underrated and talented guy. I remember seeing him years ago and almost weeping when he did Killermont Street.
thank you guys
Always interesting to hear Beatles' discussions.
Currently reading "Dreaming The Beatles" book and I love it!
Great stuff. Great to actually see J and S in motion too.
Best Beatle Podcast imo
Interesting. It might be an idea for you guys to contact Des Henley (later of the band ‘Fumble’ who supported Bowie on his Aladdin Sane tour of USA in 1973) who spent a whole week with The Beatles in 1963 when they played Weston super Mare for the week at the local odeon. Their car broke down, it spent all week in a garage in Weston and Des (by chance) ferried them around all week. He has some great stories of that week and has a signed programme from the gigs.
Donald Fagen and City of Tiny Lights are just two of the videos I remember well from them music nights. Mississippi Fred McDowell being another.. Put a tape in for that, I don't care that I haven't seen Boon yet.
Also I stayed near a Spanish primary school that played Here Comes The Sun at the start of every breaktime. Imagine your school turning you on to The Beatles.
Fantastic observations on I am The Walrus! I found it so sinister as a youngster too. I consider it a masterpiece these days but the chord progression at the start is very unsettling and then John comes in with that abrasive vocal.
When I was a child, my favourite Beatles track was always I’m So Tired closely followed by Ticket to Ride and Across the Universe. And Lennon said he couldn’t write melodies!
The one book I would love to be published is Mal Evans’ diary. Maybe it will be the biggest anti-climax but what the hell.
@@philiphalpenny3783 If I’m listening to The White Album casually I would skip Revolution 9 but when I’m there with the headphones on, alone and total Beatles mode, it is an essential listen. The whole vibe you get is one of foreboding menace. I would never consider it in the bottom half of their compositions simply because it was and still is, like nothing I have ever encountered. The White Album is my favourite and Revolution 9 is an important part of why I love it. It rips you out of your fab four comfort zone.
Lennon was insistent this track should be included on the album and no doubt he would have loved all the controversy surrounding it, from the back masking to the almost universal criticism. The whole discordant sounds are ready made for film and I think it has probably influenced more artists than any other track. It broke every rule and we are still discussing it.
@@philiphalpenny3783Interesting question. I think The Beatles would have had a field day with Maybe I’m Amazed or even Too Many People (my favourite Paul solo song) but Paul would have had to come up with a different story about the latter. Lennon’s Working Class Hero with it’s finger picking Dear Prudence vibe and also Crippled Inside which Paul would have loved to mess about on. And a controversial one, When We Was Fab from George.
@@philiphalpenny3783 I could probably forgive John anything if I’m honest. I always thought of Imagine as just a beautiful sentiment rather than an instruction. He was the most famous man in the world and still he displayed all the frailties of anyone. The fact John admitted and confronted them, head on, has been a great source of inspiration to me. Obviously people will counter that by recounting his treatment of his son, Julian but I like to think, had he lived, he would have put things right. Delusional? Probably but I believe John has made me a slightly better person and for that, I still thank him.
@@philiphalpenny3783 I have problems with Fred. Of course, there is seldom any smoke without fire but the very mention of John in a book almost guarantees a best seller. Goldman being the prime example. I know Yoko divides opinion radically but Mark Lewisohn has said, despite all the criticism, she had never said one bad word about anyone. In this day and age, that takes some doing. Similarly, Paul has never bad mouther my fellow Geordie, Heather. Maybe because of their daughter but even so, it is a quality rarely seen these days.
I always say, the very things people found strange about Yoko were the same things that John loved.
@@philiphalpenny3783 I love that film. Still one of the best gangster/revenge films ever. Sadly, Newcastle looks very different these days. Gone are the old characters and backstreet pubs. They are now replaced by poncy bars and chavs (or as we call them, charvers) decked out from head to toe in sports clothing and constantly asking for the “lend of a quid.”
I know it made the city look very grim but, funnily enough, I find myself wishing for those days to return. A time when nobody had much but the sense of community was the thing that got pulled it all together. I have to say, Get Carter and The Man Who Would Be King remain my favourite Caine performances.
My daughter says "you live in a 'Beatles dimension' that is sometimes hard to understand to outsiders" 😅
Loved this episodie. Thanks ❤
Fab interview😎👌
Always so interesting to learn new facts and hear Post Beatle fans take on JPGR who discovered them later as opposed to us Baby Boomer Beatle fans who lived through the exciting chronological journey and remembering that building excitement of a new release. Heady Beatle music days.
My own take when referring to The Beatles during the sixties is this:
62 : Breakthrough Beatles
63: Pierre Cardin Beatles
64. Movie Beatles
65. World Beatles
66: Cool Beatles
67: Psychedelic Beatles
68: White Beatles
69: Beardy Beatles
And here to close is another Beatles Q&A :- Name some songs that all four Beatles did not participate/perform in?
Here’s a few, please add sure there are many more..
1. Here Comes The Sun : George,Paul & Ringo
2. Back In The USSR : John, Paul & George (Paul played drums!)
3. She Said She Said : John, George & Ringo (George played bass!)
4. Julia : John
5. Her Majesty : Paul
6. Within You Without You: George (but also featured Neil Aspinall on tambura!)
7. Revolution 9: John & George
Ringo never appeared totally solo on any Beatles track but did get a co writing credit on What Goes On!
Lennon/McCartney/Starkey
Keep up the great work guys😎👌
from Me To you, they saw a telephone book advert, from Us To you.
Looks like the Kings Hall show was 1964 not 65.
As a kid in the 60's,our house was a Beatles house.
The telly was never on,my mum being a hippy (mum,what are all these funny smelling plants all over the house?) so we had music on day and night.
We all learned every song quickly as each single/album came out,on the day of release of course,and with our mum a pianist,we'd play the records and sing along,just like everyone else in our street in sth London.
People had parties and the playlist was mindblowing.
Damn i miss those days and still shed a tear at some Beatles songs randomly played on the radio.
Great show fellas.
Nostalgia,especially for those heady,exciting days like this will never be matched.
I count myself one of the blessed boomers,the greatest era for music ever.
Regarding Sgt Pepper (or any tracks contained therein): I was 13 when it came out & when I bought it. I was immediately consumed by it in its entirety (except for Within You Without You - my immaturity couldn’t handle it) an, as I entered the eighth-grade that fall of ‘67, I found I couldn’t concentrate on anything else but Pepper. My grades suffered and coincidentally I’d become the target of two or three bullies at school. As the song says, “It’s All Too Much,” for a young, slightly superstitious adolescent boy to handle. After several months of the, at the time, worst year of my life I put the LP away and would not listen to it for 10 years. I truly equated that record with my misfortune(s). Now, fifty-plus years later I treasure Pepper and most particularly Within You Without You.
Post-Script: until recently I’d never heard the run-out groove - had, in fact, never heard OF it. So I reached for my old copy of the LP only to find that, somewhere along the way, it had been replaced. I don’t remember buying a new copy and certainly wonder what happened to the original copy - including the insert containing the mustache which, as a 13 year old, had cut out and worn! It was gone?!
McCartney was travelling down from Saltaire in West Yorkshire after recording with the Black Dyke Mills Band when he went into the Berkshire pub i think.
Yes, and treated them all to an early version of Hey Jude. That was June 1968.
I bought Beatles Oldies 2nd hand yesterday :o)
I'm not a Beatles fan at all, but am thoroughly loving reading '1,2,3,4,'.Highly recommended.
It’s great to see unmusical people trying to join in. Well done.
The opening gambit of “I’m not a Beatles fan at all” conjures up visions of the pub scene from the start of American Werewolf in London when the locals all stop and stare at the two young lads.
Good men!
The other important detail you missed out about Magical Mystery Tour showing on TV is that it was shown in B/W but was made to be shown in Colour.
I think Strawberry fields was on The Tube in 1984 I think
Mark’s beard is coming on a treat.
Suddenly he’s looking the way I imagined McCartney would look as an older gentleman.
@@davidrobinson2776 I think he looks like one of those blokes you see alone, in Wetherspoons, 9.30am, on a weekday, nursing a pint of bitter.
@@neilb224 that brings back memories of my dad. He was in the pub from morning til night. When last orders was announced he would show the speed and agility of an Olympic athlete to get to the bar and order 4 pints for himself. Many times I saw the old bugger, sitting on his own in the bar surrounded by the barmaids trying to hurry him along.
Jason is in the shed and Stephen is in a wing of Wayne Manor. 😁
Fantastic episode guys, will definitely check out the nothing is real podcast. Be interesting to get Robert Elms on as a guest, known for not liking or ever playing the Beatles on his radio show, obviously completely ridiculous and also interesting one of his best mates is Gary Kemp who clearly loves them! I like Elms despite his Beatles nonsense which I take with a massive pinch of salt, one thing not being into them, that’s fine but as a so called serious music lover trying to justify why they’re not that good is either proof it’s an affectation or he simply knows a lot less about music than he’d care to admit! He’s still a top bloke though!
Ich habe das nicht gewußt daß Die Beatles in Dublin gespielt haben.
Amazing, Jason looks nothing like Nez here!
When they entered the quiz each year was it the same questions? I guessed Her Majesty before they said it (5 mins). Obviously I would win any Beatles quiz.
RIP to NIR
Love the shows, adore the chaps but getting worried about the deafening coughing fits from David. Is he OK?😱❤️
Then again he looks ten years younger than Mark Ellen..!
Can someone please name the author and book that Jason names at 19.10 as I can't make out the author's name..
Pete Paphides ~ Broken Greek
Rod Plumb Thanks mate.
At 33 mins: in the early ‘60s bass frequencies were still being filtered from nearly all records at the mastering stage partly for the simple reason that, if they didn’t, record player needles would skip out of grooves, it was an industry standard procedure of course, not a musical choice.
Don't get me wrong as I'm a 60 year old fan. But why are all your guests so Beatles orientated.
Maybe because they're more 70 than 60. 😉
It's not a planned thing. It's just one of those things that has happened. I wouldn't even say they're all in their 60s. One of the themes that has struck me in the course of doing these podcasts is that, apart from the Beatles being the one thing in pop music that most people have in common, everybody came to them in their own way in their own time. I think Pete Paphides was one of the first guests to talk about them in this way but he was by no means the last. It was only when John Lennon died that he realised he'd once been in a group with Paul McCartney. I think it's increasingly hard to draw a line between people's tastes and their age.
@@davidhepworth I really enjoyed that chat with Gary Kemp and found it refreshing he mentioned loving Suppers Ready by Genesis...i similarly fell in love with this track aged 12 ,when others my age were getting into punk bands...your podcast has kept me sane this past year!
@@davidhepworth Pete’s story is so similar to my own. Through my Mam’s love of John and me discovering her treasured Imagine album after she died, I got into The Beatles. It was a rather spiritual experience that went beyond the music and brought me closer to her. No other band seem to have had such an impact across the board. Everyone has a Beatles story.