Love your videos Charles, and your collabs with shopdap are awesome! With gas prices going insane, you guys should do something unique with your content and make something regarding economy improvement options. Thx.
Hey, the Danville Airport! I’m down here in Charlotte and run my Mk6 2.5L Golf with the CCR region in STS. Are you guys planning on doing any more autocrosses?
I like it!! I really think the 8 will be faster. The issue in autox is the 7.5 has some boost lag to tend with. Maybe we need to get the R32,7.5 and 8 up there!
@@HumbleMechanic Would love to see a family brawl, no one is doing this stuff like you two! I always suspected that the harder you tune these small 2 liters, the less effective they become for "close quarters work" in other words tight auto cross. On a bigger race track and of course a drag strip, there is much more time spent on WOT. Do OTS tunes focus at all at increasing power over stock in the areas "under the curve"? I'm pretty sure JB-4 is even inactive until WOT, so not much added there to auto cross situation.
@@kegfreak3728 Well no one doubts a full stage 2 or even just stage 1 mk7.5 R would maul a stock mk8 on the street and strip- they're not THAT far removed. The other differences (biggest would be the Haldex 5 vs the Magna rear end dynamics) are another story.
@@HumbleMechanic Sounds you need a third driver! I have 5 seasons of autox under my belt in my gti and don't live too far away :D Or throw my k04 MKV into the mix
Conclusions: The R is that super star teammate that elevates your game and makes you look like a better driver than you really are. 😂 The GTI… will expose your ass. 😂 GGs bois.
I drive an Audi A7 and live next to Germany in The Netherlands and just love your channel The US take on German cars and driving in general is fantastic
When I used to Auto-X till the late 2000's the fastest time of the day was always between a Mazdaspeed Miata on slicks and a prepped STi. I dearly miss auto-xing my Corrado!
Charles, you were 0.426 faster in the R, not 1.478 🤣 It seems Paul's self preservation must have been at an all time high on track. He is a drag only kinda guy 😆
The mazda mx5 has a good chassis. They like the tight tracks. In the Uk they do well at track days on somewhere like Knockhill (very short, tight and twisty)
I get the comparison thing here but you guys completely omitted the most important factor; the rubber. It makes a HUGE difference in an autocross so unless you're both running identical tires, the comparison doesn't mean as much. Loved the video and as an 8V S3 owner it was really informative. I can't wait to get out there and see what mine can do on the track.
the beginner improvement was probably more due to how much a new driver can improve. You being more experienced, it will be harder for you to improve. I'd put money on it that if he drove the R first and then the gti, he probably be faster in the GTI as well
100%. I’ve been autocrossing for a decade and we’ve seen it for years. One other common thread is for a new driver to share their car with a veteran for a couple runs and ride along. By the 2nd or 3rd run the new driver begins copy-catting the vet and picking up huge time advantages. ^^ I did that in a Focus RS ;-).
Excellent video Charles and Paul! Thanks for doing the comparison by way of an autocross, reveals so much more than most UA-camrs who would just line up the cars side by side for some pulls (no Matt Watsons here instead petrolheads through and through) See you in April!
Wait a second... 6:38.... Your times were 45.925...and 46.351... and you were "only 1.478 seconds faster in the Golf R... 🤔 I'm no math professor, but something doesn't add up here.
@@HumbleMechanic lol... Don't worry. I also have a Masters degree in mechanical engineering as well as the name Jason. ...so I should have you covered!!
Call me crazy but with the slight drop and wheel change I’m liking the styling of the GTI more than the R. Still think the mk7/7.5 wins this but the mk8 GTI is really growing on me.
@@HumbleMechanic no really Charles thank you. Always saving me from watching some boring crap on the television I even go back and rewatch your older videos quite often. For kinda selfish reasons I wish you did more diesel content but only really as I cannot afford an R32 or R
NOSSS!!! Im on a nos break. The black R32 is at the body shop. For context I dropped it the week after Christmas. I got a call yesterday saying they were going to get started on it today..... ITs gonna be a minute .:(
Times for you guys didn’t look that bad, I don’t know if you guys were on 200tw tires, which the MazdaSpeed were. Also those bigger rims on the GTI will definitely slow it down. Usually from GS to DS my GTI is usually around half a second slower. But the Golf R definitely will reward a non experienced driver. Great seeing the R and GTI out on a course. Would be interesting to see the difference between your 7.5 R and the MK8 R
You definitely forgot to compare tires between the two. Tire choice and pressure is HUGE for autocross. Also am I seeing things or does the R have amber brake lights?
More like Volks racing. I bought some G2s and shed close to 15lbs each corner. Made a huge difference in braking into turns (later) acceleration ( sooner).
Did you guys stay in ‘ESC sport’ entire day? I imagine the general trend of your results wouldn’t change, but curious how your quickest times and levels of fun would be affected. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Great video guys!!! Not suprised a Miata took FTD tho, they are great autoX cars. We are waiting for autoX season to pop off here in the Midwest. More videos of friendly competition pls.
Ohhhh no! Smoked by a Miata! 😆Strength to weight. It's all about strength to weight. Which is why I was kind of rooting for the GTI (and not just because I own a MKV). Disappointed, but not surprised.
this was actually pretty cool to watch, i really want to know how fast my 99.5 jetta tdi would do, torq app says it has 72 hp, but it does have lowering springs + koni shocks/struts. and a thick rear sway bar. so basically you can turn soooo hard with no body roll. only problem is on the highway it bounces a lot
I love that the @HumbleMechanic's R is sitting next to @8:15 an old 88-91ish shitbox of a Ford Festiva (my first car I ever financed). That car of mine was slow AF.
@@HumbleMechanic definitely, because of the skill level involved to corner with the worn out suspension and trusting that the brakes aren't going to fail.
I have a issue with my Mk7 with 100,000 miles. A misfire on cylinder 3 only, misfire is only on idle. Did compression test 190 on 1,2,4 and 160 on 3. Changed spark plugs, coils, injectors, and did a carb clean. Any help on what it could be the issue would be appreciate it.
The GTI needs lighter wheels and I'm sure you know that tires are everything in AutoX. Definitely looks like you both had a blast out there. I absolutely love doing AutoX in my GTI. It's definitely become one of my biggest passions in the past year. 😎🙌🤘
Nice work boys! It's been a long time since I've raced in autocross. It's such a good learning environment as it's so driver intensive. Anyway, two sweet cars you guys got!
I'm definitely an R guy but the front facia is a big let down this gen. R's never get the driving lights and the GTI has a really killer look would of preferred a more exaggerated GTI grill for the R in place of the moustache styling the have goin on. That said I'd still take the R if I was to choose from the two, AWD and rear dif are the main factors.
The R has a significant advantage due to the AWD....also, got spanked by a RWD Miata by more than the difference between the two cars VW's. As always, it proves the the fastest mod is the driver upgrade. Along those lines, serious kudos for making the point that the R is the car a beginner can jump in and drive faster. Totally valid, useful points since not many folks have dozens of hours of track time or hundreds of laps around the vindictive cones.
That miata was also properly prepped, modded for autox.. LOL but you are 100% spot on. DRIVER MOD(fwiw, his runs were also end of day where it was much drier.)
@@HumbleMechanic Mine was absolutely not knock and either of you guys. We do it all the time in our 24 Hours of Lemons cars in that there are a few known, very fast drivers that still will not kill your endurance car...we send them out for a 30 minute stint and by lap 3 or 4 they have bested our fastest time in 14 hours of racing that track. I was indirectly trying to encourage folks to just get more track or (if that is what you are into) autocross time. If you platue, get some instruction. Vehicle mods make the car theroretically faster but driver mods make it actually faster. When I raced motorcycles the ratio all the faster riders that were still privateers used was 10:1...spend $10 on track time and instruction to every $1 in upgrades if you want to go faster.
That was so cool. The R the better car all around and the weather didn’t help the GTI. Kudos to both of you…but i think Paul needs some more experience 😋😋 in AutoX
Get rid of the dual mass flywheel in the mk4 r32 and stiffen up the motor mounts and slap stiff coil overs on then run em in the quarter or eight and you tell me if the mk7 and mk8 r32 golf is faster than the new r32
100% stock mk7/8 will be faster in either of those situations. Hands down not even close. I own a mk4 r32,7.5R and 8R the mk4 is considerably slower in the straight line situation. Like not even close.
Sorry I just gloat on about the mk4 chassis that’s because I was a technician at trans ocean Volkswagen of Pasadena California when the mk3 and mk4 were new.
![FWD vs AWD Race | MK8 Golf R vs Modified MK7 GTI [The Dream Crusher]](/img/n.gif)
If you guys like to see more things like this, do me a huge favor and give this video a share!
Love your videos Charles, and your collabs with shopdap are awesome! With gas prices going insane, you guys should do something unique with your content and make something regarding economy improvement options. Thx.
@@rjsoderlund81 Thats a great idea! I think im just in the "it will go back down soon" mindset LOL ( delusional im sure)
@@HumbleMechanic Projections are likely to be high for the summer if not rest of the year :( Keep that GTI boost guage in the neg or $$
Hey, the Danville Airport! I’m down here in Charlotte and run my Mk6 2.5L Golf with the CCR region in STS. Are you guys planning on doing any more autocrosses?
3:37 What is that rubber thing sticking out?
My next driver mod is finding a better driver, then dressing them exactly like me and switching places parent trap style!
I can sign up for that. I don’t mind being your ringer twin.
You need The Stig, with all his look-alike cousins!
Have them tell some dad jokes too, and you may just convince us!
😆😆😆😆😆👍
Why you throw away the engine cover???, You will damage the paint of the hood!!!!!!!!! Lool
What I really want to see is how your MK8 compares to your Stage 2+ MK7.5 on track or auto-crossing
I like it!! I really think the 8 will be faster. The issue in autox is the 7.5 has some boost lag to tend with. Maybe we need to get the R32,7.5 and 8 up there!
@@HumbleMechanic Would love to see a family brawl, no one is doing this stuff like you two! I always suspected that the harder you tune these small 2 liters, the less effective they become for "close quarters work" in other words tight auto cross. On a bigger race track and of course a drag strip, there is much more time spent on WOT. Do OTS tunes focus at all at increasing power over stock in the areas "under the curve"? I'm pretty sure JB-4 is even inactive until WOT, so not much added there to auto cross situation.
Thats the same thing I thought when I saw this video. Do I want to go full stage 2 on my 7.5 or get a new R?
@@kegfreak3728 Well no one doubts a full stage 2 or even just stage 1 mk7.5 R would maul a stock mk8 on the street and strip- they're not THAT far removed. The other differences (biggest would be the Haldex 5 vs the Magna rear end dynamics) are another story.
@@HumbleMechanic Sounds you need a third driver! I have 5 seasons of autox under my belt in my gti and don't live too far away :D Or throw my k04 MKV into the mix
Killer comparison....I really like when you and Paul do things together.... great team
Great video
Conclusions: The R is that super star teammate that elevates your game and makes you look like a better driver than you really are. 😂 The GTI… will expose your ass. 😂 GGs bois.
HAHA This is probably the most accurate thing!!! the GTI was so fun after I figured out it seemed to react slower.
I drive an Audi A7 and live next to Germany in The Netherlands and just love your channel
The US take on German cars and driving in general is fantastic
Thank you so much!!
That was great, the results weren't surprising. When traction is key (isn't it always?), you just can't beat AWD. Nicely done!
I think I expected the difference to be more
MIati kinda proved that wrong lol
@@PVW4EVER Maybe the Miata driver was better seasoned?
@@JohnMaffa I hope so lol
When I used to Auto-X till the late 2000's the fastest time of the day was always between a Mazdaspeed Miata on slicks and a prepped STi.
I dearly miss auto-xing my Corrado!
Charles, you were 0.426 faster in the R, not 1.478 🤣
It seems Paul's self preservation must have been at an all time high on track. He is a drag only kinda guy 😆
The mazda mx5 has a good chassis. They like the tight tracks.
In the Uk they do well at track days on somewhere like Knockhill (very short, tight and twisty)
Imagine buying a VW for 50k+ USD only to get chopped by a clapped out Miata lol.
As a fellow autocrosser I loved this video!
Nice work can’t wait to see more track days! Maybe the GTI just needs some light 18s and a better, possibly wider tire to keep up.
I get the comparison thing here but you guys completely omitted the most important factor; the rubber. It makes a HUGE difference in an autocross so unless you're both running identical tires, the comparison doesn't mean as much. Loved the video and as an 8V S3 owner it was really informative. I can't wait to get out there and see what mine can do on the track.
Yeah unfortunately there will always be some type of variables.
I'm team GTI, but it makes sense; the R is an awesome car. good vid 👏
the beginner improvement was probably more due to how much a new driver can improve. You being more experienced, it will be harder for you to improve. I'd put money on it that if he drove the R first and then the gti, he probably be faster in the GTI as well
that is possible.
100%. I’ve been autocrossing for a decade and we’ve seen it for years.
One other common thread is for a new driver to share their car with a veteran for a couple runs and ride along. By the 2nd or 3rd run the new driver begins copy-catting the vet and picking up huge time advantages.
^^ I did that in a Focus RS ;-).
@@HumbleMechanic now let's get someone with 2 jackets to compare the cars 🖐
I like it!!!
I love the look of a long beard with the race helmet lol so cool, It's like ZZ Top meets the cousin It racing team.
HAHAHA
Paul's not there to win, he's just there to be awesome.
He nailed it
Fantastico Men, fair play to the two of Ye, and of course the 2 mean machines👍🙂
Loving the collabs!
Paul always has that look of “all man, not this again”…..hahaha. He’s hilarious for sure.
HAHAHA
Excellent video Charles and Paul! Thanks for doing the comparison by way of an autocross, reveals so much more than most UA-camrs who would just line up the cars side by side for some pulls (no Matt Watsons here instead petrolheads through and through) See you in April!
Matt Watson and his videos suck.
Forget the lap times i wanna see some digs and roll races
I love how you drop Fast and Furious phrases occasionally)
Wait a second...
6:38.... Your times were 45.925...and 46.351... and you were "only 1.478 seconds faster in the Golf R... 🤔
I'm no math professor, but something doesn't add up here.
Its only 0.3 to 0.4 seconds quicker than the gti
1 or 2 seconds on an autocross may as well be 5 years.
Facts.. Also sorry for the bad math yall... I need to sublet my math to Engineering Explained.
@@HumbleMechanic lol... Don't worry. I also have a Masters degree in mechanical engineering as well as the name Jason.
...so I should have you covered!!
Call me crazy but with the slight drop and wheel change I’m liking the styling of the GTI more than the R. Still think the mk7/7.5 wins this but the mk8 GTI is really growing on me.
4:55 why both car have yellow brake lights ?
I really like the GTI’s looks more than the golf R. And that feels strange to say
Nice video, it was great being able to run alongside you guys!
I still struggling to get my Mk5 bkd going again I miss driving it but it’s taken a backseat for my 1986 mini Mayfair project
Love your videos the ones with Paul are great also
Thank you!!!
@@HumbleMechanic no really Charles thank you. Always saving me from watching some boring crap on the television I even go back and rewatch your older videos quite often.
For kinda selfish reasons I wish you did more diesel content but only really as I cannot afford an R32 or R
Where's the NOS??
When are you going to finish the turbo R32?!
NOSSS!!! Im on a nos break. The black R32 is at the body shop. For context I dropped it the week after Christmas. I got a call yesterday saying they were going to get started on it today..... ITs gonna be a minute .:(
Times for you guys didn’t look that bad, I don’t know if you guys were on 200tw tires, which the MazdaSpeed were. Also those bigger rims on the GTI will definitely slow it down. Usually from GS to DS my GTI is usually around half a second slower. But the Golf R definitely will reward a non experienced driver. Great seeing the R and GTI out on a course. Would be interesting to see the difference between your 7.5 R and the MK8 R
That’s my next test lol
Should probably also state how much driving experience both of you have along with the tires on each car
Oh Yeah! I knew this was coming =P. Great work you guys! I love the way you guys get together and just have a blast. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much
Do you guys not have the higher h p gti/Leon cupra ?? 290/300 hp fwd with front diff and dcc adjustable suspension??
Plus jb4 good bye warranty
No we dont. :(
Been waiting for this since your Insta live the other night
You definitely forgot to compare tires between the two. Tire choice and pressure is HUGE for autocross. Also am I seeing things or does the R have amber brake lights?
There is something odd with the color in the shot. 😂
Also yes tires ar huge. I could have shaved some time dropping my tire pressure
I think the GTI could definitely benefit from some lighter wheels, maybe some neuspeeds or something.
More like Volks racing. I bought some G2s and shed close to 15lbs each corner. Made a huge difference in braking into turns (later) acceleration ( sooner).
Did you guys stay in ‘ESC sport’ entire day? I imagine the general trend of your results wouldn’t change, but curious how your quickest times and levels of fun would be affected. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
We did!
That was pretty sweet...why did you guys stop doing Cars with Cocktails? I only recently discovered it and they're awesome.
Thanks! We got to the point we wanted to make sure we did the best job. That requires more time than we both could commit
Great video guys!!! Not suprised a Miata took FTD tho, they are great autoX cars. We are waiting for autoX season to pop off here in the Midwest. More videos of friendly competition pls.
rando question, i was never 100% happy with my mk7.5 seats. do the new seats interchange? and is the new seat more comfy maybe a bit more wider?
They will fit. Not sure about proper function
*I'm always curious when I see comparisons like this stock vs monster* 👀
Drag race and roll race next
Ohhhh no! Smoked by a Miata! 😆Strength to weight. It's all about strength to weight. Which is why I was kind of rooting for the GTI (and not just because I own a MKV). Disappointed, but not surprised.
Your math was off with your times. Golf R 45.925, GTI 46.351, difference of .426. Extremely close considering the AWD and slippery conditions.
Thank you. LOL my math is off more than it should be. :(
Love you both VERY much! Great video!!! 👍👍🤯
Thanks dude. Great to see your comment. I need to rehang that poster. HAHA
yall need to collaborate more!! loved the video
😎 you’re gonna like what we have in the works
this was actually pretty cool to watch, i really want to know how fast my 99.5 jetta tdi would do, torq app says it has 72 hp, but it does have lowering springs + koni shocks/struts. and a thick rear sway bar. so basically you can turn soooo hard with no body roll. only problem is on the highway it bounces a lot
Torsion beam suspension on the rear push it and flip it lol
The turn signals come on when you brake now? That's sick.
I wonder how the GTI would have done on lighter wheels. Great driving guys!
Does the JB4 cancel the VW warranty ? Here at middle east it do unfortunately
I think in this case Colin Mcrae was right "Straight roads are for fast cars,turns are for fast drivers,,
There is a guy who runs his GTI in our PCA AutoX and is usually in the top 30-40%. It's so quite it makes you think it is slow.
Pretty sure the GTI would be faster under better conditions.
Hey! Don't sleep on the Miata's! Especially the Mazdaspeed version!
Those are always fastest
@1:13 what the heck trim piece popped off???
This was so sweet
I love that the @HumbleMechanic's R is sitting next to @8:15 an old 88-91ish shitbox of a Ford Festiva (my first car I ever financed). That car of mine was slow AF.
The most fun cars to run are always the biggest POS
@@HumbleMechanic definitely, because of the skill level involved to corner with the worn out suspension and trusting that the brakes aren't going to fail.
That dude was in the grass DEEP at least once
I have a issue with my Mk7 with 100,000 miles.
A misfire on cylinder 3 only, misfire is only on idle.
Did compression test 190 on 1,2,4 and 160 on 3. Changed spark plugs, coils, injectors, and did a carb clean.
Any help on what it could be the issue would be appreciate it.
The GTI needs lighter wheels and I'm sure you know that tires are everything in AutoX. Definitely looks like you both had a blast out there. I absolutely love doing AutoX in my GTI. It's definitely become one of my biggest passions in the past year. 😎🙌🤘
GTI looks killer though wow
Charles will win in the R, but I'm a little biased since I have a MK 7.5 R too 😉
AWD and Beards for the win!
Sadly the weight of the Miata makes it fun. What’s the weights on the vw cars
I LOVE my Miata there. its so fun. Not sure on weight of either car. but they are solid LOL
@@HumbleMechanic
An Mk4 is around 32-3400, I'm sure it hasn't gotten any lighter.
Crazy that a Mk4 weighs more then a similar year Corvette.
Where did you get those magnetic numbers for the door for autoX? I've been looking for some for a while. They are magnetic only right?
www.autocrossdigits.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiAvaGRBhBlEiwAiY-yMBkwrGufQIbUD5sMS0cZ1YQFvlKGtOb-Qb6EahNeJZ0wuyJs1uOEERoCHfsQAvD_BwE
Vinyl Vision Concepts is a great supplier as well.
OK Charles- JB-4 and dyno the mk8 R before you tune please!!!! Same dyno, bonus points for as many different maps as possible.
I have a JB4 on the way to do just that!
I wanna run with yallll!!! Great vid as always!
I noticed the black rubber thing hanging out of your headlight seen that before on the Mk8
Hahha yeah. The headlight got replaced for ut
Looking forward to your thoughts on upgrading springs and RSB (and front?) and how it improves handling. Great video, keep them coming!
Man I miss my veedub. I had an MkV GTi. Such a drivers car. These are fine automobiles 🤙
that looks fun! more of this is needed to keep the racers off the streets.
off the subject. 13 beetle. 5cyl. green/white wire pin 24. no voltage. should be 11 volts. brake lights stay on. bad e.c.m?
Possible. What style brake light switch does that use?
Now that looked like a lot of fun.
Thanks for taking us a long for the ...ride.
(See what I did there. Lol)
Hahah nice!!
Nice work boys! It's been a long time since I've raced in autocross. It's such a good learning environment as it's so driver intensive. Anyway, two sweet cars you guys got!
What rims are on the GTI? That thing looks awesome!
I'm definitely an R guy but the front facia is a big let down this gen. R's never get the driving lights and the GTI has a really killer look would of preferred a more exaggerated GTI grill for the R in place of the moustache styling the have goin on. That said I'd still take the R if I was to choose from the two, AWD and rear dif are the main factors.
The golf r put down 300whp ? Or to the crank
You guys kick ass. You know that, right? Thanks for another great video.
The stance on Paul's GTI is absolute perfection! Not a Racer Boy or a Mom stance. That there is a Man's Stance!
Interested in that front fender reflector cover...
ITs from these guys www.badgeskins.com/store/c60/MK8_Golf.html
Looks like the GTI could use a stiffer rear sway bar, saw quite a bit of push on corner entry.
The R has a significant advantage due to the AWD....also, got spanked by a RWD Miata by more than the difference between the two cars VW's. As always, it proves the the fastest mod is the driver upgrade.
Along those lines, serious kudos for making the point that the R is the car a beginner can jump in and drive faster. Totally valid, useful points since not many folks have dozens of hours of track time or hundreds of laps around the vindictive cones.
That miata was also properly prepped, modded for autox.. LOL but you are 100% spot on. DRIVER MOD(fwiw, his runs were also end of day where it was much drier.)
@@HumbleMechanic Mine was absolutely not knock and either of you guys. We do it all the time in our 24 Hours of Lemons cars in that there are a few known, very fast drivers that still will not kill your endurance car...we send them out for a 30 minute stint and by lap 3 or 4 they have bested our fastest time in 14 hours of racing that track.
I was indirectly trying to encourage folks to just get more track or (if that is what you are into) autocross time. If you platue, get some instruction. Vehicle mods make the car theroretically faster but driver mods make it actually faster. When I raced motorcycles the ratio all the faster riders that were still privateers used was 10:1...spend $10 on track time and instruction to every $1 in upgrades if you want to go faster.
Charles please help how do I add cluster sweep to my mk4 r32
It’s in the firmware. I had mine done by clusters by litke
@@HumbleMechanic thank you!!!
Now what would the duel clutch R and GTi do 🤔🤔 as they both go quicker to 60 😁
I have to ask did WV do an update on the infotament system? It seems to be more responsive than what it was at release.
What tires were you running on the cars? They make a huge difference especially in the wet.
Mine were the hankooks that came on it. Paul had some Continental tire
That was so cool. The R the better car all around and the weather didn’t help the GTI. Kudos to both of you…but i think Paul needs some more experience 😋😋 in AutoX
Im trying to get him out more.
Get the S4 out there!
I’ve just started at a Volkswagen dealership, what specialist tools was you deffo recommend for me to get as a VW tech?
I did 2 videos on that exact topic. Lot of Allen’s and triple square. Plenty of find on Amazon.
More contents on the golf r pls! I just bought one 6speed mt mk8 r
I love the Golf R I owned a 2019 Mk 7.5 the only thing that I didn’t like it didn’t have a spare tire.
Yeah no spare sucks. Luckily you can add it on
I just noticed you have the same issue as me with that stupid rubber piece above the headlight.
Be honest Charles, how much did you bill Paul for polishing out scratches caused by him hitting cones?
Lol I think we were even I hit a few in his car 😂
Get rid of the dual mass flywheel in the mk4 r32 and stiffen up the motor mounts and slap stiff coil overs on then run em in the quarter or eight and you tell me if the mk7 and mk8 r32 golf is faster than the new r32
#older mk4 r32
100% stock mk7/8 will be faster in either of those situations. Hands down not even close.
I own a mk4 r32,7.5R and 8R the mk4 is considerably slower in the straight line situation. Like not even close.
As long as that mighty 24v is sitting solid with stiff motor mounts to keep that mighty German vtec engaged it will be a force to reckon with.
Strong dog bone mounts and cheap stiff coil overs and polyurethane bushes and the mk4 is the best
Sorry I just gloat on about the mk4 chassis that’s because I was a technician at trans ocean Volkswagen of Pasadena California when the mk3 and mk4 were new.
I was curious I haven't been able to find much info. How does the evo 4 differ mechanically compared to the gen 3 engine?
Will GTI manual car stock clutch handle the JB4?
Yep Paul’s clutch is stock
Bruh.. can’t believe no roll race in a straight line would have been amazing to see ..
Yeah would be awesome
@@HumbleMechanic make it happen!
2:05 Golf R and Charles 😬
What tires do you run in autocross?
These are OEM. Normally I run re-71r on my Miata and my r32 when I autocrossed that
I wonder how these two cars would compare on the same track if the GTI wasn’t modded
We should test that. Or JB4 the R