I view the jedi and sith as one philosophy split into 2 parts. You must have self-control to keep yourself in check so you can follow your passion to enjoy life. You can have power to protect yourself but must ensure you don't harm others. Sometimes peace is a lie and power is needed to gain true peace and other times power is needed to protect peace as a last resort.
This is basically the same concept when it comes to religion. All of these religions split into different things but at the end of the day, they are the same.
This reminds me of a really cool quote I heard from a Sith based channel that posited: "The dark side of the Force isn't a gift, it's a challenge." Love your videos, coupled with that!!
@@GeekyStoics hi there! For me, at least, the idea of how the Sith philosophy does encourage something of the "unnatural aspect" of the dark side. That the idea of a handout is grotesque or ridiculous, and not to be taken up on, but rather you have to "work your way" through. I'm no orator, and not the best at explaining, but that was sorta my takeaway! Hope that helps in some goofy ahh sorta way.
Sith Code is actually pretty wise. The reason why Sith is evil is not because their philosophy is bad, but because they interpret it wrong. Person who never fights will always lose. The difference between good and evil is that evil has no code at all, there is no philosophy of evil. Evil person is the person who interprets wise and good thing through the prism of his a55.
@@GeekyStoics Palpatine actually speaking truthfully is not evil as he may seem, Palpatine is actually honest at least with himself, Palpatine wants power and ready to sacrifice everything for it. The point here Palpatine shouldn't be considered human being, he may be portrayed as devil himself, but not human. The difference between human being and devil is that human being is way more bounded than devil in the sense that human being needs love, needs passion, needs community, needs postive emotions, needs to share his life with someone. Negative emotions, hatred, loneliness are extremely incomprehendible for any human being, no human being can live long in such conditions. In that sense devil has no boundaries, devil doesn't need postive emotions, doesn't need compassion, doesn't need to be loved, doesn't need to share his life with someone, so for devil it is way easier to live in hatred, in negative emotions, in loneliness as if it was his sweet home. Devil in that sense is ideal Sith, but thing is Devil was created by God, so Devil must not be considered evil. Throughtout whole series of Star Wars Palpatine never felt any type of struggle in evil, he never sacrificied anything for his power and never felt pain of such sacrifice - this is absolutely impossible for any real human, but it also makes him honest with himself, Palpatine chooses to be evil, chooses power over relationships, and so he is powerful, while Anakin was human being, but fallen, even fallen Anakin continued to struggle and feel extreme pain, Anakin compared to Palpatine wanted everything - both power and relationships, but thing is Anakin wasn't honest with himself, he tried to convince firslty himself that he needs power to defend his people, but because this was lie, he paid for this delusion very big price . Darth Vader can be considered evil, because he interpreted everything wrong and so he fell. And also Palpatine gave chance Anakin to be free from dark side, but Anakin chose to become sith volunteraly, in that sense Palpatine was honest with him. This is the difference between evil Anakin and not evil Palpatine
My favourite thing about this in combination with politics is watching US politics from the outside, seeing Left obsessed with Sith worldview of "breaking their chains" and still believe themselves to be the Jedi.
from my perspective, both views are foolish. "deny all wanting and be free from the entire world" "take everything by force, your wants and desires are paramount chase them" real freedom is the ability to choose what you do/don't want and get rid of what you can't handle/don't need. real story, i picked up smoking for a bit to see how it would feel, liked it, but knew it would harm me and cost so much money, so i put it down for my own good, and never touched it again. i enjoy pleasures but don't let them control me. and i do not deny them out of fear. a bit of drink, but do not crave drunkenness. people are so weak willed and afraid they fall to their desires, or hide from them like nuns that will be murdered for indulging. i can choose, i chose to smoke a bit for a week or two and LOVED it, but put it down and to date i have not touched it since. choose, choose yes/no choose this/that. choose risk/reward. slave to holiness. slave to desires both are the same yet inverted. the middle ground where you can go left, or right, and then return without harming yourself is where true freedom lies. those who are weak willed fall to addiction those who are stupid and afraid deny all of the world out of fear of becoming bad people. both ways are wrong
When you spoke about the old Alinsky tactic of accusing the opposition of that which one is guilty, and mention of political media work, I had to stop to think. Then, realizing that I'm dealing with a stoic, it became clear to me, confirmed by a few comments here :) I think I might subscribe, this is good stuff
We don't have to deliberately go beyond Star Wars to take this seriously. I believe that subconsciously everyone takes Star Wars seriously, because they know that Star Wars, or other art based on serious topics that are of serious importance ideas are serious. I think everyone, at least on a subconscious level, realizes this and they appreciate this, and this is the reason why some projects turn out to be profitable, while others that are flat and devoid of depth and purpose sink. At least in most cases it is. Other times a project remains underappreciated if it was too far ahead of its time and remained misunderstood by the public during the time that project was created and therefore that project has to wait for its time to come. A third reason is if this project covers a topic that is of little or no interest to most viewers, then this project receives support, or no support, from a very small number of people. This is also a reason for a project to remain in the shadows. And in all seriousness, we really have to give our respects to the Hellraiser Cenobites. I think that this soul went through Hell and she experienced Hell is extremely strong. In the same way as a person who has tried everything in life is very well prepared because he has gathered vital experience from his life. Another question is whether a person can pass Hell. And also what is left of that person's consciousness after they have experienced Hell. People who have gone through many life trials are often destroyed. Star Wars is based on Eastern martial teachings and Buddhism practices on the one hand (Jedi) against ordinary human behavior on the other hand (Sit). Can we not assume that neither is a solution and that a solution is the middle way? You take a little of one, you take a little of the other, while at the same time you try to free yourself also in the same time helping others, punishing the bad, realizing that you are also half good and half bad? More or less, this is how I see myself.
I think that one should strive for a moderation of both philosophies. Learn to conquer yourself (a stoic belief) but also understand that emotions do play a vital role in life. We should learn to focus them and use them to self reflect. Hatred is not necessarily a bad thing but it depends on the context. Hate for the sake of hate inevitably is going to end up being bad. I hate that I have weakness but I take that hatred of weakness in myself and use it to make myself stronger. If I find myself hating another person I elf reflect on the reasons why.
that means a lot thank you! We aim to be useful philosophy first, Star Wars as the supporting act or delivery mechanism. The newsletter you'll very much enjoy. Thats a quick sign up at geekystoics.com and the letters tend to become videos
Wow i am glad i found your channel. This wisdom goes deeper than star wars especially when examining Right Hand Path vs Left Hand Path. Many project the Jedi(Right Hand Path) as being strictly conformist. But evidently there is a greater freedom to be had.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Only true!!!
Running away from lifes pleasures is just putting a different kind of chain on yourself. True mastery comes when you can have 1 drink and say no afterwards even when everyone else around you continues to indulge. I gotta sayvi disagree with both the jedi and sith. Theyre both examples of radicalization of their point of view and I feel like thats the reason neither of them are around anymore. True balance would require a bit of both sides.
I stand by the Sith , the sith codes & the sith way of thinking IF I HAD TO PICK BETWEEN THEM OR THE JEDI ORDER UNDER YODA’S LEADERSHIP 👈🏾. Nobody , nothing & no one else is holding me back from doing what has to be done within reason. You must embrace your whole self , all of your power & all of who you are in order to maximise your potential to succeed in your life whether it be on a small or large scale ✅. (Ultimately I wouldn’t tread on any force path I would prefer to go Bounty hunter but if I had no choice to pick it’s straight Sith living for me 😆👏🏾.)
Interesting that you bring up epictetus's experiences as a slave, I like the take that Wisecrack had of likening the Jedi and Sith code's to nietzsche's idea of "master morality" that power over others is good, and meekness is bad and "slave morality" the opposite kind that, that we see in our modern world.
Freedom for others peoples idea of fate for fate doesn't exist Chaos theory - the branch of mathematics that deals with complex systems who's behaviour is highly sensitive to slight alternations where small changes in the initial conditions can give rise to Strikingly Great Consequences. Its Not freedom it conflict of control
Freedom comez at the Cost to the Self - Dance the twisted Snaking Path between the paths of Lite & Dark Seeking Desire or Ambition Or Running from fear or pain Only push the CosmicClock around faster & with greater riskz... ...Righteous Journey is the Foolz PEACE of Mind !🇨🇦
Dude, you think, but you don't think enough. :) The problem is that the more you run and you deprive yourself of problems, the less you learn by overcoming. Jedi replace all necessities of life with intense Jedi training. They are monks. Jedi are Buddhists. Simply, if you want to be Jedi, go to Tibet or take another place of solitude or contemplation. Why did you decide that the Jedi value is applicable and real in our world, but the Sith are fictional? Jedi are Buddhists. Sith are gangsters. Both sides are completely real in our world and at the same time they are here in each of us: a good side and a bad side. Sacrifice and selfishness. Etc. Also you might be a hypocrite. :) Because you sound like you might want to be a Jedi, but a Jedi by force, because you think the Sith don't exist in real life and therefore you cannot be a Sith. But if they were real you would be a Sith. Am I right? You sound every bit a Jedi by compulsion, but a Sith at heart. Basically you are saying: Jedi are real, their values are the only option for our real world. While the Sith are unreal! Why? Is selfishness and lack of concern for others unrealistic for our world? Any gangster or unscrupulous, any serial killer could be a Sith. Yes, these are people who don't care.
From this video it seems the Jedi practice avoidance, and claim to know about everything from books but not from experience. That's fine and probably leads to a more stress free life. However, if you were struggling with addiction, for example, would you want a councilor that only knew about addiction from books and school, or would you want one that had experienced and successfully conquered addiction?
That's why I became a libertarian in a philosophical stance... the human nature is freedom. Humanity's worst enemy is the establishment of the State... we have been taught to believe it's necessary... but what people forget is that... in the majority of cases it is not Jedi like type of people becoming politicians... it's the Sith like. That being said, of course freedom goes a long way beyond physical, political freedom... but it starts there... as long as we keep forsaking our own freedom to the hands of a central planning hungry machine, we will never truly be free.
If this interpretation is correct then Star Wars is highly deceptive, with many false dichotomies. I'd rather think of life as virtues run contrary to vices. The goal of the virtues is love, joy, and peace. The goal of vices is power through hatred according to arrogant pride. Virtues are righteous passions of love, joy, and peace for those who are deserving, and trustworthy at heart. Vices are the extreme immoral passions for conquest, ownership, and destruction of all things virtue for the power to control, and rule everything desired through authoritarian control. Virtues are to set free. Vices are to control. One is true love, the other is vanity and hatred without cause. On top of that there is the issue of mercy, and redemption. I'd prefer Star Wars to draw truer lines of justice on both the positive side, and the contrary negative side. To be without passions of any kind is robotic self denial. I think the reality is life has contrary passions and they don't mix. One side offers true freedom, the other offers freedom, but only deceives and tempts. One side is for others, the other is heartless toward others. One side keeps good company, the other only enjoys heartless company for the sake of rule.
The whole point of Sidious was to basically be the Devil incarnate, in the words of George Lucas. And if you know anything about Satan, you have to take everything he says with a grain of salt, he is the deceiver. And so was Sidious. He didn't actually believe that the Jedi and the Sith are alike, he was manipulating Anakin. He lied to Anakin more then once.
the definition of freedom is an understated important subject which society has forgotten how to talk about
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I view the jedi and sith as one philosophy split into 2 parts. You must have self-control to keep yourself in check so you can follow your passion to enjoy life. You can have power to protect yourself but must ensure you don't harm others. Sometimes peace is a lie and power is needed to gain true peace and other times power is needed to protect peace as a last resort.
This is basically the same concept when it comes to religion. All of these religions split into different things but at the end of the day, they are the same.
@@SuperSayianMessi10 I agree somewhat, but the Jedi and Sith are like the extreme case.
Jedis understand this. That's why they are warriors, but use violence only as a last resort.
This reminds me of a really cool quote I heard from a Sith based channel that posited: "The dark side of the Force isn't a gift, it's a challenge." Love your videos, coupled with that!!
what does that quote mean to you? Thinking on it and not sure what it means. THANKS!!
@@GeekyStoics hi there! For me, at least, the idea of how the Sith philosophy does encourage something of the "unnatural aspect" of the dark side. That the idea of a handout is grotesque or ridiculous, and not to be taken up on, but rather you have to "work your way" through. I'm no orator, and not the best at explaining, but that was sorta my takeaway! Hope that helps in some goofy ahh sorta way.
@@Morbid-Corvid22 that does help, thank you!!
Freedom from our base desires, our human nature is what makes us truly free. Great video man!
Sith Code is actually pretty wise. The reason why Sith is evil is not because their philosophy is bad, but because they interpret it wrong. Person who never fights will always lose. The difference between good and evil is that evil has no code at all, there is no philosophy of evil. Evil person is the person who interprets wise and good thing through the prism of his a55.
Interesting perspective. Will think on this.
@@GeekyStoics Palpatine actually speaking truthfully is not evil as he may seem, Palpatine is actually honest at least with himself, Palpatine wants power and ready to sacrifice everything for it. The point here Palpatine shouldn't be considered human being, he may be portrayed as devil himself, but not human. The difference between human being and devil is that human being is way more bounded than devil in the sense that human being needs love, needs passion, needs community, needs postive emotions, needs to share his life with someone. Negative emotions, hatred, loneliness are extremely incomprehendible for any human being, no human being can live long in such conditions. In that sense devil has no boundaries, devil doesn't need postive emotions, doesn't need compassion, doesn't need to be loved, doesn't need to share his life with someone, so for devil it is way easier to live in hatred, in negative emotions, in loneliness as if it was his sweet home. Devil in that sense is ideal Sith, but thing is Devil was created by God, so Devil must not be considered evil. Throughtout whole series of Star Wars Palpatine never felt any type of struggle in evil, he never sacrificied anything for his power and never felt pain of such sacrifice - this is absolutely impossible for any real human, but it also makes him honest with himself, Palpatine chooses to be evil, chooses power over relationships, and so he is powerful, while Anakin was human being, but fallen, even fallen Anakin continued to struggle and feel extreme pain, Anakin compared to Palpatine wanted everything - both power and relationships, but thing is Anakin wasn't honest with himself, he tried to convince firslty himself that he needs power to defend his people, but because this was lie, he paid for this delusion very big price . Darth Vader can be considered evil, because he interpreted everything wrong and so he fell. And also Palpatine gave chance Anakin to be free from dark side, but Anakin chose to become sith volunteraly, in that sense Palpatine was honest with him. This is the difference between evil Anakin and not evil Palpatine
Spoken well, from a true Sith!
@@secretsecret1713 The Hebrew word śāṭān, means "adversary" (Of God)
My favourite thing about this in combination with politics is watching US politics from the outside, seeing Left obsessed with Sith worldview of "breaking their chains" and still believe themselves to be the Jedi.
YEP! You got the subtext. - Stephen
Man, loving your views . I'm in recovery right now. Giving me different ways to think
I hope it helps you along your journey! Thanks!
@GeekyStoics thank you.
The sith are basically the embodiment of stage red of spiral dynamics. Jedi range from Blue, Green, or Turquoise .
from my perspective, both views are foolish.
"deny all wanting and be free from the entire world"
"take everything by force, your wants and desires are paramount chase them"
real freedom is the ability to choose what you do/don't want and get rid of what you can't handle/don't need.
real story, i picked up smoking for a bit to see how it would feel, liked it, but knew it would harm me and cost so much money, so i put it down for my own good, and never touched it again.
i enjoy pleasures but don't let them control me.
and i do not deny them out of fear.
a bit of drink, but do not crave drunkenness.
people are so weak willed and afraid they fall to their desires, or hide from them like nuns that will be murdered for indulging.
i can choose, i chose to smoke a bit for a week or two and LOVED it, but put it down and to date i have not touched it since.
choose, choose yes/no
choose this/that.
choose risk/reward.
slave to holiness.
slave to desires
both are the same yet inverted.
the middle ground where you can go left, or right, and then return without harming yourself is where true freedom lies.
those who are weak willed fall to addiction
those who are stupid and afraid deny all of the world out of fear of becoming bad people.
both ways are wrong
Well said.
Yes thank you for this, true freedom is free from fear, fear is the mind killer and the thing that has always taken away true freedom.
When you spoke about the old Alinsky tactic of accusing the opposition of that which one is guilty, and mention of political media work, I had to stop to think. Then, realizing that I'm dealing with a stoic, it became clear to me, confirmed by a few comments here :) I think I might subscribe, this is good stuff
We don't have to deliberately go beyond Star Wars to take this seriously. I believe that subconsciously everyone takes Star Wars seriously, because they know that Star Wars, or other art based on serious topics that are of serious importance ideas are serious. I think everyone, at least on a subconscious level, realizes this and they appreciate this, and this is the reason why some projects turn out to be profitable, while others that are flat and devoid of depth and purpose sink. At least in most cases it is. Other times a project remains underappreciated if it was too far ahead of its time and remained misunderstood by the public during the time that project was created and therefore that project has to wait for its time to come.
A third reason is if this project covers a topic that is of little or no interest to most viewers, then this project receives support, or no support, from a very small number of people. This is also a reason for a project to remain in the shadows.
And in all seriousness, we really have to give our respects to the Hellraiser Cenobites. I think that this soul went through Hell and she experienced Hell is extremely strong. In the same way as a person who has tried everything in life is very well prepared because he has gathered vital experience from his life. Another question is whether a person can pass Hell. And also what is left of that person's consciousness after they have experienced Hell. People who have gone through many life trials are often destroyed.
Star Wars is based on Eastern martial teachings and Buddhism practices on the one hand (Jedi) against ordinary human behavior on the other hand (Sit).
Can we not assume that neither is a solution and that a solution is the middle way? You take a little of one, you take a little of the other, while at the same time you try to free yourself also in the same time helping others, punishing the bad, realizing that you are also half good and half bad? More or less, this is how I see myself.
An insightful analysis. I'm in!
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I think that one should strive for a moderation of both philosophies. Learn to conquer yourself (a stoic belief) but also understand that emotions do play a vital role in life. We should learn to focus them and use them to self reflect. Hatred is not necessarily a bad thing but it depends on the context. Hate for the sake of hate inevitably is going to end up being bad. I hate that I have weakness but I take that hatred of weakness in myself and use it to make myself stronger. If I find myself hating another person I elf reflect on the reasons why.
IDK, hating your weakness focuses you on it but not necessarily how to overcome it. Luke's faith in his father redeemed Vader.
Been looking for a philosophical based channel that incorporates Star Wars. Very niche I love it! Subscribed, hope this channel blows up 👍
that means a lot thank you! We aim to be useful philosophy first, Star Wars as the supporting act or delivery mechanism. The newsletter you'll very much enjoy. Thats a quick sign up at geekystoics.com and the letters tend to become videos
Wow i am glad i found your channel. This wisdom goes deeper than star wars especially when examining Right Hand Path vs Left Hand Path. Many project the Jedi(Right Hand Path) as being strictly conformist. But evidently there is a greater freedom to be had.
Couldn’t agree more. Glad you found us.
Excellent review and commentary! Subscribed!
thank you!! welcome aboard
nice video man i really enjoy the want part
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
Only true!!!
loved making this one
Your over compatance is you weakness!
"Your faith in friends is your...."
True freedom is not the ability to do what one wants, but rather the desire to choose the good over evil.
And you will know "When you are at peace, calm."
Running away from lifes pleasures is just putting a different kind of chain on yourself. True mastery comes when you can have 1 drink and say no afterwards even when everyone else around you continues to indulge. I gotta sayvi disagree with both the jedi and sith. Theyre both examples of radicalization of their point of view and I feel like thats the reason neither of them are around anymore. True balance would require a bit of both sides.
2:03 - food, drink.. Natalie Portman.. anger and desire for control. - Plato, 300 b.c.e
@@MasterMartey lol
Great and interesting 👍🏻
By active and force with you 🙋🏻🍀✌🏻
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I stand by the Sith , the sith codes & the sith way of thinking
IF I HAD TO PICK BETWEEN THEM OR THE JEDI ORDER UNDER YODA’S LEADERSHIP 👈🏾.
Nobody , nothing & no one else is holding me back from doing what has to be done within reason.
You must embrace your whole self , all of your power & all of who you are in order to maximise your potential to succeed in your life whether it be on a small or large scale ✅.
(Ultimately I wouldn’t tread on any force path I would prefer to go Bounty hunter but if I had no choice to pick it’s straight Sith living for me 😆👏🏾.)
There is lots of enticing elements on both sides to be sure
@@GeekyStoics
Fair enough bro , I’m bound to the DarkSide #ForTheEmpire ✅
Interesting that you bring up epictetus's experiences as a slave, I like the take that Wisecrack had of likening the Jedi and Sith code's to nietzsche's idea of "master morality" that power over others is good, and meekness is bad and "slave morality" the opposite kind that, that we see in our modern world.
Yeah we certainly live in slave morality times. If you claim powerlessness, you are virtuous.
Freedom for others peoples idea of fate for fate doesn't exist
Chaos theory - the branch of mathematics that deals with complex systems who's behaviour is highly sensitive to slight alternations where small changes in the initial conditions can give rise to Strikingly Great Consequences.
Its Not freedom it conflict of control
Team Jedi forever.
Freedom comez at the Cost to the Self - Dance the twisted Snaking Path between the paths of Lite & Dark
Seeking Desire or Ambition
Or
Running from fear or pain
Only push the CosmicClock around faster & with greater riskz...
...Righteous Journey is the Foolz PEACE of Mind !🇨🇦
Dude, you think, but you don't think enough. :)
The problem is that the more you run and you deprive yourself of problems, the less you learn by overcoming.
Jedi replace all necessities of life with intense Jedi training. They are monks. Jedi are Buddhists. Simply, if you want to be Jedi, go to Tibet or take another place of solitude or contemplation.
Why did you decide that the Jedi value is applicable and real in our world, but the Sith are fictional? Jedi are Buddhists. Sith are gangsters. Both sides are completely real in our world and at the same time they are here in each of us: a good side and a bad side. Sacrifice and selfishness. Etc.
Also you might be a hypocrite. :) Because you sound like you might want to be a Jedi, but a Jedi by force, because you think the Sith don't exist in real life and therefore you cannot be a Sith. But if they were real you would be a Sith. Am I right? You sound every bit a Jedi by compulsion, but a Sith at heart. Basically you are saying: Jedi are real, their values are the only option for our real world. While the Sith are unreal! Why? Is selfishness and lack of concern for others unrealistic for our world? Any gangster or unscrupulous, any serial killer could be a Sith. Yes, these are people who don't care.
I liked this video though
@@88thSeigeArmy super glad!!
Great video.
From this video it seems the Jedi practice avoidance, and claim to know about everything from books but not from experience. That's fine and probably leads to a more stress free life. However, if you were struggling with addiction, for example, would you want a councilor that only knew about addiction from books and school, or would you want one that had experienced and successfully conquered addiction?
That's why I became a libertarian in a philosophical stance... the human nature is freedom. Humanity's worst enemy is the establishment of the State... we have been taught to believe it's necessary... but what people forget is that... in the majority of cases it is not Jedi like type of people becoming politicians... it's the Sith like.
That being said, of course freedom goes a long way beyond physical, political freedom... but it starts there... as long as we keep forsaking our own freedom to the hands of a central planning hungry machine, we will never truly be free.
Well put. Completely agree.
A lot of principles that stem from Christianity
We agree! Much of our recent work has been inspired by some CS Lewis.
A lot of principles that stem from Taoism; Sanatana Dharma; and many Indigenous Tribal Spiritualities worldwide as well.
If this interpretation is correct then Star Wars is highly deceptive, with many false dichotomies. I'd rather think of life as virtues run contrary to vices. The goal of the virtues is love, joy, and peace. The goal of vices is power through hatred according to arrogant pride. Virtues are righteous passions of love, joy, and peace for those who are deserving, and trustworthy at heart. Vices are the extreme immoral passions for conquest, ownership, and destruction of all things virtue for the power to control, and rule everything desired through authoritarian control. Virtues are to set free. Vices are to control. One is true love, the other is vanity and hatred without cause.
On top of that there is the issue of mercy, and redemption.
I'd prefer Star Wars to draw truer lines of justice on both the positive side, and the contrary negative side. To be without passions of any kind is robotic self denial. I think the reality is life has contrary passions and they don't mix. One side offers true freedom, the other offers freedom, but only deceives and tempts. One side is for others, the other is heartless toward others. One side keeps good company, the other only enjoys heartless company for the sake of rule.
Bro what’s this nonsense. Then average life span of a man is about 70 years. I’m sithin my way through life. Excuse me
@@sweatydjack4397 you do you bro
Jedi are good, sith are bad. Star Wars is not that complicated.
You’re not wrong 🥸
NO he doesn't lie. You are not lying if you believe it to be true. After all, everything depends on the interpretation.
The whole point of Sidious was to basically be the Devil incarnate, in the words of George Lucas. And if you know anything about Satan, you have to take everything he says with a grain of salt, he is the deceiver. And so was Sidious. He didn't actually believe that the Jedi and the Sith are alike, he was manipulating Anakin. He lied to Anakin more then once.