A Private Jet with a Parachute
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It's basically an ejection seat for the whole plane, not a bad concept for a light aircraft. One last line of defense if an emergency landing isn't possible
Should be a requirement for aircraft the same way airbags and seatbelts are mandatory in new cars.
@@thebigpicture2032 not realistically possible
I've been doing the same thing with space shuttles in ksp for a whole year
@@Dave_Kerman ksp and real life aren't exactly the same
@@thefrenchbaguette919 it's a community inside joke lmao, there's not a single person out there who played ksp, made a shuttle and never considered a backup cluster of 100 parachutes in case you miss the runway 🤣
I was a parachute rigger in the Army, I'd rather repack a parachute than have my friends scoop me out of plane wreckage.
Scoop? They're washing you out with a hose.
I was a parachute rigger too. Thanks for your service, job was a sweatshop.
Why not both? All you gotta do is fuck up the CoG and you'll nosedive into the ground anyway.
@@theguy9208 rather nosedive at a slower rate of descent than become a lawn dart.
Way easier than having your friends try and reassemble you
Once you have an emergency, you are now flying the insurance company’s plane. The only thing that matters is keeping everyone safe.
Lmao listen it is only your plane when it’s worth something. The second it loses its value we gotta fuck the insurance company 😂😂 I love it
@@snipinmonstaThat’s how insurance works. Once the insurance pays for the damaged thing the thing becomes theirs. This is only the case when something gets totaled
@@MrJacobst i Know lol thats what I just said
Im pretty sure everyone one wants that outcome
😂😂
A backpack parachute, an ankle fire extinguisher a selfie stick is all I need.
lol
lol nice reference
I heard he’s going to jail!
nice reference lmao
What you don't need...is your pilots license anymore... 😂
although some aviation analysts suggest that Cirrus pilots are too quick to pull the parachute handle - rather than concentrating on aviating through the problem
Those "analysts" get people killed. Every day someone thinks they can "aviate" through the problem, right up until they lawn dart into the ground.
Everyone thinks they are the world's greatest pilot.
Dale Snodgrass had almost 5,000 hours in an F-14, more carrier landings then any other pilot, flew in air shows.
He died because he forgot to remove the control lock. Do the action which will save your life.
Well honestly I’d rather pull the parachute than risk my life.
average cirrus pilot frothing at the mouth to pull caps upon any annunciator
I've seen some that suggest on some cases they were too hesitant to pull it. Would be interesting to see what happens more
I'd agree, except the Air Force had a big issue early on where pilots would fly their planes into the dirt instead of ejecting, or they'd eject too late anyway. While it might be possible to land the aircraft in some of the incidents. If you have a single digit percentage of incidents being unnecessary shoot pulls. That is almost certainly offset by the rest of the justified pulls
Cirrus actually recommend and taught people to pull the chute early due to some pilots who thinks they can recover and people who looked down on plane parachute refusing to pull it resulting in much higher fatality in Cirrus plane when they first came out with parachute. Then once people start realizing "oh wait, i'm not Tom Cruise in top gun and can't fly my Cirrus upside down on fire with a wing missing", that's when the fatality dramatically dropped.
Fair, but I'd wonder if sometimes people pull it earlier than they really need to. Stall recovery is just about the first emergency response thing that pilots are taught and it's pretty simple: increase throttle and pitch down. If you're too low to safely recover it's dangerous, but otherwise it shouldn't be a huge issue.
@Lovebombs im sure landing with the parachute isnt like totaling the airplane.. its probably made to be replaceable so you could fly a plane multiple times after something like this happens just by replacing the chute
@@Ilovemyidi From what I've heard, on the new Cirrus planes doing a parachute recovery is fairly similar to doing a gear up landing as far as airframe damage is concerned, so depending on where the thing landed it can probably be recovered, repaired and take to the skies again, but not always.
@@Ilovemyidi Normal touch downs are around 100 feet per minute. Anything over 240 is considered a hard landing requiring maintenance. This parachute will "land" you at over 1700. That's like going into a 0G dive 6 feet above the ground.
I understand that english is not your first language, and I'm sure your English is better than my attempt at whatever your first language is. That being said, perhaps trying to give an expert opinion on a complex matter in a language in which you are not fluent is not the best of ideas.
“We designed a plane that’s not too good at flying, but has parachute.”
Who said it isn't good at flying?
I mean I would be more ok with fly by wire if Airbus found a way to implement this on their airliners...
@SpaceBird-Founder cirrus planes were not able to show the FAA that it is able to recover from a spin in certain conditions leading them to have to implement the parachute system , but fortunately for cirrus this became a good selling point and they went along with it
@@mannyjosue13 There's many planes of that size which aren't good at spins
@@SpaceBird-FounderThe narrator said there's been 140 deployments. Seems like a lot.
I love how they go from a Cirrus G2 to a single prop Mooney. Quality story telling.
And confusing!!
Because both of these aircraft have parachutes
I noticed that too. Really detracts from the point. You don’t need to fill the screen with any old footage. Either it’s the right plane or don’t show it.
Yeah, ruined it for me. Sloppy production/editing. I guess there was something dramatic and different about that shot.
You act like it's easy to get footage from planes deploying parachutes. I don't think most of them are recording when they have their emergencies.
This is definitely a Kerbal Space Program solution.
I've been doing this in KSP for years.
@@DarthRagnarok343 KSP 2 launches tomorrow
@@DarthRagnarok343Same
This system saved the life of a friend of mine. He flew in a KA8 glider and was in final approach when a Ultralight flew into him from behind(ultralights fault, didnt look/do proper flight planning/ was too low ). However, the ultralight was quick to deploy his parachute system and my friends glider sorta hooked into the destroyed ultralight and came down with him on the parachute. Insanely lucky
As unfortunate as that even is I'm happy your friend had a WILD story to share after. Wow. What a day to remember
@@sportsboyjon yeah he has a good attitude about it. He had a little mishap shortly after where he was also landing with an ASW 15, when he suddenly got in some sort of rotor and did a half frontflip. Not negative Loop, Frontflip. No more control, just an uncontrolled stall where he pitched around 150 degrees forward. Luckily he could recover from that and managed to land. Afterwards he told me he thinks aviation in general is pissed at him
the guy in the Ultralight probably lost his license from that big of a mistake
@@reclaimer0018 i dont know what happened after, but yeah, he should have
Could have been an unlicensed pilot since it was an ultralight. if its that case, then I wonder what the protocol is between the FAA and the private citizens involved. @@reclaimer0018
If I’m rich enough to afford a private jet I’m damn sure gonna order the parachute option!
I hope in the next couple years to buy either a Gulf Stream, Bombardier, Falcon, but more than likely a BBJ 737-200. I am NOT going to choose based on the thought that my plane has a parachute!!! That also tells me that that plane has had several issues, which I would not want.
No, I will go by which has the least amount of crashe history, get a plane with a low TT, hire a flight crew with lots of experience and ongoing training, and have regular extensive maintenance done on the whole plane! Any of my friends that have jets don't go off of it having parachutes. But then again, I am not aware of any jets with parachute, which is what they have.
I will do all I can, but if something disastrous was to take place, it is what it is. You can't live life based on "what if". But this is just my personal take.
@@_Mr.Dthat is such a long reply. 😂 Lol
Nice opinion jimmy and mr. D
@@shalinisingh7540 Trying to offer a REAL perspective
Nowadays you're better off with a plane with multiple engines. The only reason it has a parachute is because it has one engine, there is no backup. Modern 4 engined planes can usually fly fine with only 1 working engine left.
I think plane parachutes for light aircraft and aircraft as a whole is genius. It saves people and LOTS of money
You always see Cirrus pilots reach up, touch the handle, and call out "CAPS is available" after takeoff. The orignal motivation was spin recovery but it has really shone after incidents like mid-air collisions.
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The original motivation was not spin recovery; rather, the co-founder of Cirrus found himself in a midair collision years before starting his company. Although he landed safely, he vowed to create an airplane with a parachute which he believed was the only thing that could have saved him had the situation been any worse.
I think the poster was referring to the fact that the original Cirrus aircraft could not pass the spin recovery test for FAA certification. So, the CAPS system was installed as a compromise.
@@deanfowlkes This is not true, just an Internet myth.
Now, this is how shorts are done.
Didn't know they were available on jets. Several other propeller aircraft had had them installed besides the Cirrus which comes factory installed. Great safety equipment.
Bear in mind that, at least with the Cirrus shown, pulling the handle guarantees airframe loss. Better than loss of life of course, but consider all options before deploying the chute.
It's probably also quite a ride for the pilot.
You own the insurance company or something?
140 deployments of that parachute in 20 yrs? That's 1 deployment every 2 months. I would not feel safe in that plane.
I would agree if there was 1 plane made. But if there’s was 3000 sold hypothetically then it’s a pretty decent number . Also I will be checking online the sales and the average number, because I was thinking thinking the same as you until I remembered i needed to factor in fleet size
140 out of 3000 is a lot. Almost 5%
@@11macedonian According to a 2021 article by Cirrus, they sold over 8,500 SR model aircraft in the past 20 years. This does not include other planes such as the Cirrus Vision jet.
@Karuiko thanks for the numbers. That's still 1.6%. I agree with plica06 I would not feel comfortable in one of those planes.
@@11macedonian Don't look up the percentages for car accidents, the numbers might scare you.
Impressive. It went from jet to propeller driven
These are two models made by the same company, both have the system. The jet is the SF50 and the prop is either sr20/sr22/sr22t
that would definitely explain why it stalled
lol
not a lot of videos of SF CAPS, since the SF is only a few years old. the SR20 was first sold (with CAPS, of course) in 98 or 99, so there's more footage.
Thankyou I'm looking in comments and no one seemed to notice
Airbus: why can't we have ejectable cabin with parachute to save passengers?
Company: live passengers liabilities cost more than dead ones.
Myth
Passenger jets are safer than cars
I thought this up as a kid. I asked my dad why they don't just put parachutes on passenger planes. His answer was that it would be too expensive and that the planes frame might not hold up.
Physics makes this practically impossible for larger passenger planes
One should add in most cases the plane will not be airworthy again, the parachute can be installed on planes but the stain during deployment will cause structural damage that will total the plane.
Insurance is beautiful
Interesting! Was looking for something like this, since I was wondering if this was better than a catapult chair, since it maybe saves the aircraft. But anyway I do think it's a better option in this case since it's less stress on the pilot and he can somewhat control where the aircraft lands, and it lands in a much slower manner as well.
Still better than crashing and burning anyday.
Yep, the plane structure is designed to break to a certain degree, to take on the impact on the landing (for example, the landing gear will buckle and break absorb the impact when the plane hits the ground after CAPS deployment - this is also why it is better to pull the caps system over a clear field rather than water)
@@ajbp95 - Once the CAPS is activated, there is no longer any control as to where you land. Unlike a personal parachute or ejection seat. The parachutist can control personal parachutes to some degree in most cases.
My grandad was saved by one of these in a stunt plane during a flat spin stall.
Awesome 👍
Makes the fuselage unserviceable... but you survive!
Should extend this parachute to commercial airlines too..this would save many life
this short was super smart. I didn't watch your F-35B documentary, because I didn't feel it was for me. But after watching this short, it's the next thing I clicked play on.
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A lot of Cirrus owners try and not deploy the parachute and instead try to land the plane, sometimes ending their lives. The reason is because when you deploy the parachute the straps rip away the fuselage which totals the whole aircraft.
Total my plane that can be replaced or total the life I was having... I'll total an inanimate object that can be replaced.
Yeah going too cheap killed the Titan tourists too. What’s more important. After surviving a possible crash most people don’t value stuff as much !
Hmmmm,
To save the strap or all the life on board..
Tough call.
The plane is insured. Pull the CAPS handle and save your life, and let the insurance company buy you a new airplane.
The opposite is also true, many times they use the chute when they could have easily glided to a landing, and then they may float down into a power line, or trees, or some other bad place. That chute is NOT the first thing you do if you have problems, I’m only an 850 hour pilot, but still a pilot.
The parachute also has an assistive boost in the parachute box as the chute is much larger for the SF50 - effectively it uses a car air bag to work with the rocket.
I worked on the SF50 during design and certification. Very cool aircraft
Flew a cirrus a couple times, having that big red handle above your head gives you a funny feeling but what a great safety feature
Forget the parachute, that plane looks inSANEly cool!
It should be for over a million dollars!
it is.
@@q1o2 it probably is. the SR22T is pretty close to 1 mil.
There's a mixup of Cirrus Propeller and Jet models on the footage used 😅
Both have a Shute, because initially, both could not recover from a spin. Later, it became a safety argument! 😅
@@randycastillo4530 this aircraft is aerodynamically unrecoverable from a stall. That's why.
@@randycastillo4530 it isn't a matter of training. The design literally did not have the capability of recovering from a spin.
@@glujaz as someone who has stalled a Cirrus SR-22, you are incorrect, it’s not difficult to recover from a stall in a Cirrus, and stall recovery is part of pilot training for all Cirrus aircraft.
Spin recovery, OTOH, is not taught in Cirrus aircraft, (the type is not rated for spins) and if a pilot were to find himself in a spin then they would be correct to deploy the CAPS.
@@randycastillo4530 the pilot of a Cirrus aircraft should make the callout “CAPS is live” at 800’ AGL, but FAA tests have demonstrated that airframe parachutes can deploy successfully as low as 260’ AGL. Good luck recovering from a spin at 300’ (not saying it can’t be done, just wishing you luck if you ever find yourself spinning that close to the ground)
that fact that it has had over a 140 failures needing the parachute is a red flag right there.
These have been around for close to 20 years now and they work great
Cirrus has learned their lesson and instead of expensive recoveries in extremely remote areas they've notified all their previous customers to pull the ripcord before the end of the runway on every 17th takeoff to be pulled in for complete inspections.
Mark Patey has a plane he built with one, but he designed the suspension and parachute decent rate to be able to land without damage!
"No damage" ≠ No damage.
Even if the outside looks fine, the inside spars, ribs, etc, probably has new introduced stresses, cracks, or whatever that would warrant repair.
Still better than being totalled, but you're still going to an A&P to get it looked at
@@DylanClements98 literally an engineer with aviation experience but alright, go ahead, make your assumptions.
I'm not saying it will be guaranteed to have damage, rather that you will absolutely need to get it inspected afterwards to *make sure* that there is no apparent change in the structural integrity of the airframe.
@@DylanClements98 Ad hominem.
I have heard the insurance is much higher because some people have used the parachute when it’s not really necessary
It has a parachute because it can’t recover from a spin like every other light aircraft made. In the manual it says “if spin initiates pull caps” or something along the line of that. Needed it to be certified, which is horrible, but they’re nice planes. Used to build em.
It landed in Hancock Couty, which is a county east of Marion County/Indianapolis. He took off from Indianapolis regional Airport formally the Mount Comfort Airport.
Yeah I was listening to the scanner when it happened. I lived 3 miles from the airport at the time
If your plane is so unreliable that you need a parachute then you should probably redesign it
I used to build these planes and I can confirm they are very proud of their parachute.
That is just ridiculously brilliant. I’m truly blown away…bravo!
These parachute systems should be incorporated in passenger airliners
Three reasons why they aren’t:
1. Cost
2. Weight. They would probably have to cut 10% to 20% or more or more of their passenger capacity per aircraft.
3. Difficulty in developing a system that can land an airliner safely, especially jumbo jets.
Also, in general, commercial jets better maintained than private aircraft, much more experienced pilots, have so many redundancies (including the pilots), and such an incredible culture of safety that it is already the safest way to travel. @@Ryarios
Ok, who stole my idea?
I’m surprised there’s not more of these used. Best thing since the airbag
The funny thing is that none of you know the only reason a cirrus has a parachute is because they are really easy to put into a flat spin. Huge design flaw if u ask me but the FAA wouldn't certify the aircraft without a parachute because it has dangerous flight characteristics 😅
okay. you show 2 different types of cirrus aircraft. Talk about V-tail except the vision jet wasn't the one that activated the CAPS.
you obviously didn't fucking watch the whole video because, while there was footage of an SF20/22, he did show footage of a SF50 deploying its chute.
it was a mix. the last clip was an SF, the earlier ones were SRs.
Bro went from jet to prop to again jet real quick mid flight 😂
My childhood friend died with a too low chute deployment on takeoff. RIP Davis Lynn
That's a nice looking plane too.
There is another v-tail without such a good reputation. Fork-tail doctor killer.
Great plane, flown by under-qualified pilots. But it did have some handling quirks.
Similar issue with the SR22 and SC50. Flown by occasional pilots. The SR22 has a few mild quirks nothing like the FTDK but it is a high performance aircraft for a single
Successful short, love to see it!
Wow. Back in 2006/2007 an SR22 also had a deployment on the west side of Indy. The pilot (also a doctor) passed away shortly after liftoff and his wife pulled the chute. I think their son was in the back seat. Plane landed in a retention pond in one of the many subdivisions. Luckily no other fatalities.
Generally, it makes me wonder if it is a flaw in the plane that it just ups and stalls on you, causing you to need a parachute.
Single engine means single point of failure. Sounds like they designed this parachute as a safety measure if/when that engine fails.
This might come as a surprise, but there are in fact other single engine planes that are still being manufactured to this day!
No. The parachute was a mitigation to an aerodynamic flaw. Plane is unrecoverable from a spin.
Right. Because this is only single engine plane ever made. Ever. Dummy.
No, it doesn't. An engine failure is absolutely not a reason to pull that cord, it's not even a reason for concern, outside of very narrow scenarios. Planes don't fall out of the sky for an engine failure, they glide down and land normally, more often than not then they are repaired and flown again. An engine failure is not a big deal, unless at very low altitude.
A plane from the same maker, just crashed with a chute deployment, here in Northern California last week. It fell into heavy forest but three people walked away (two adults, one young child) after the engine failed.
That’s why I bought a Cirrus! Love the parachute feature.
I’d rather they put more thought into keeping their planes in the air, HOW MANY CRASHES!
Things fail, things break. There are good maintainers out there, and there are those that do minimal work for a big buck. It's the nature of things, which is near impossible to change. Someone, somewhere, is going to have an engine that dies.
@@randycastillo4530 And nobody should fly with you, with your attitude.
If you think engine failure emergency landings are no biggie, that's terrifying.
@@randycastillo4530 not if the engine fails right after take off, you don't have enough height to be able to get the speed up to recover from the stall and even if you did the distance you could get to find a landing spot would be very small.
@@KaruikoSaid no Toyota and Subaru owner ever.
@@westerlywinds5684 Hasn't Subaru's rep gone from very reliable cars to ticking time bombs?
Honestly all small planes should have this and not just a cirrus especially single engine Cessnas where engine failure is all to common and usually happens shortly after takeoff giving the pilot very little options
Man pulled a Madagascar 2
finally somebody actually implemented the technology that I always thought since like forever
Saved 240 people, dosent that plane have a slight reliability problem if it needs a parachute?
Lol that was my first thought haha. I think he's referring to the CAPS systems installed on a variety of light aircraft.
This particular design has a flaw. It can not be recovered if it enters a spin. So, the parachute.
Saved 240 people? You mean that plane is that unreliable?
What the-? 240 incidents out of thousands of flights is standard. Also faults can also be pilot or maintenance related.
@@neunundfuenfzig I don't know how many planes they built, but 240 of them crashed. That would be a commercial disaster. There's something wrong. I'm sure
@@agr18181 140 planes... 240 people... also a lot of these incidents are pilots panicking, not saving it as their last resort.
exactly
@@agr18181 The number is that large because some were deployed in panic or when not needed
This is simply a brilliant design I believe it could be increased & scaled up.
That's pretty bad when you build a jet knowing it's going to fail so you install a giant parachute
How about making a better plane... 240 people only since 2002? How many of these planes are there... It does not sound safe...
Also can't they glide like other planes?
Most of the deployments are with the smaller planes like SR22, which is the most popular new GA plane since it came out. Gliding is still an option, this isn't a rock, the parachute is just another line of defense for when gliding isn't an option or there isn't really any space to land.
Came here to say this lol
also Cirrus SR2x are mostly operated by noob non experienced owners that don't fly often.
@@Th3Shrike but if a plane can't glide, it probably means it does not have altitude and speed to do. And judging by the size of the parachute, it could not make a safe deployment in the same conditions.
@Gabriel 050 the jet, which weighs a lot more than the sr22 series made a low altitude deploy and its fine. Also you don't need airspeed to deploy the chute so if you did something stupid and stall at low altitudes, the chute can save you
Oddly sounds like the plane model failed so much during testing, they just added a parashoot.....
It's actually becoming quite common for new designs from Cirrus. However, a large percentage of all crashes that could have prevented happen because the pilot is NOT deploying the parachute.
They really should add huge parachutes to all jets. Just imagine how many lives that could of been saved.
The Cirrus Vision Jet also has an automated pilot feature that will fly itself home or to the closest suitable airport if the emergency button is pressed. Is’s a system developed by Garmin.
I remember when these parachutes were just coming out. For the Cessna, Hang Gliders, all the way to these types of aircrafts.
Super Cool!!
Absolutely a must for smaller planes
"I'd Blindly Love to Travel in that Aircraft Anytime of my Day..."
The fact that you have this as reassurance will make you fly more calmly and rational in emergencies.
Plane is a write-off though after pulling the chute.
Icon a5 has had this for year’s already! Can’t wait to buy one myself
140 parachute deployments, seems to be a very high number of "in-air" failures! A magnificent safe-second, but perhaps more emphasis needs to be directed at the proper operation of the airplane, in order to keep it flying!
Ballistic parachutes are a amazing life saving device for light aircraft
Id definitely want one
You know a plane is shit when they add these countermeasures to ensure survival
I like that. I have flown a lot. And I have my fears too. But flying is safe.
Every pilot must understand every aspect of their plane or others. Their should be a glide decent ratio if I remember correctly. This is awesome.
The V TAIL PRODUCES LESS DRAG 😂
Love how there’s 3 different vids of Test Chutes
This thing should be on each and every plane out there
Love the look of those personal jets
Not only is it a jet plane with a parachute, but it has a propeller also.
If only a parachute
Could save every head on car crash.
Works fantastic for teeny tiny private planes, they have looked at developing a *massive* model of the system, but they haven't figured it out yet.
The engineers realize the engine came out so bad they had to came up with a fast solution.
Halfway through my brain was screaming "they were flying a cirrus, weren't they"
Happened in 2022 but the surveillance video said 2015 and I saw the parachute popped
I've always wondered why commercial jets dont have something like this - some big ass parachute that'll deploy after a full stall when the plane gets below a certain altitude. Even if it didnt stop the fall completely i bet itd save lives in the rare instances of commercial aircraft disasters
The plane doesn't sound very safe but the parachute sure works well
This guy making sure nothing can kill him unless it's him doing it himself
Respect to those engineers 👍🏼
This happened in my town once, the pilot landed with parachute on a 4 lane hwy and lived.
Only 2 deployments on the SF50 so far. The rest are on the SR2X series, which have been flying since the late 90s. Best selling aircraft in their categories.
Why this isn’t used on lots of planes is beyond me!!!
“I forgot I had the new model” -Ace Vane Batman
Least violent mk16 parachute deployment in KSP:
I heard about these chutes within the last few years but I didn’t realize they have been around for over 20. So cool. Imagine being the guy that invented it knowing you saved countless people.
Every private jet should have this and maybe some sort of airbag system under it
This idea was with my friends and myself since childhood. How could the engineers never came up with it??? O, and it is not about the weight. The parachute can be enlarged to neutralize any kind of Jet. Awesome video. Now I know that we came from somewhere else where we were involved in technology. We love you...