This film didn't do much for me, especially knowing how Ridley Scott comprised his original vision due to audience feedback. I also didn't appreciate how Shaw was handled either, given the setup at the end of Prometheus. However, I will never forget that scene of David and Walter with the "You blow and I'll do the fingering" line. The writers were WILDING. 😭😭😭
Great video! There’s a couple things I appreciate about Covenant. I like the setting and the neomorph design. I also liked the ending which I think is really terrifying. Katherine Waterston did an impeccable job showing complete horror on her face when she realizes who David is before he puts her to sleep. And like Prometheus, despite the film’s problems, the ending left room for the story to move forward (which I really do hope it does eventually, and I actually have a theory on how it could tie into Romulus). Unfortunately everything else for me was mid to okay and there’s one thing I really didn’t like about it - the killing of Shaw. Why Ridley decided that it was best to kill her off screen between films is such a big mystery to me. It’s actually worse than Newt’s death in Alien 3 because at least we saw that death happen. Prometheus had such a lovely ending with the prospect of this lone survivor trying to find the meaning of life. And it just didn’t happen. I do like Michael Fassbender and he did a good job with his dual role, but dang I really wanted a different film than this when it comes down to it. All in all I like the film but there’s a lot about it that irked me.
Hey there! Thanks for coming back and watching this! Appreciate the kind words and loved reading your thoughts on this one. A lot of valid points that I agree with here! It had potential for me, and yes… SHAW DEAD?! Weak choice.
There's a deleted scene that actually explains why Oram was so willing to stare directly into the egg. As they descend the staircase, there's a bowl on a small shelf on the wall and David tells him it's a balm that will help him overcome the smell. It's actually drugged which makes Oram more compliant to David's suggestion to "look closer."
I like Prometheus and Covenant for what they are. Can they touch the first two films, absolutely not. But they're solid enough entertainment for me as a longtime fan of the franchise's lore. That said, I witnessed first-hand these films becoming case-studies for why the 21st century issue of the internet giving everyone a voice convolutes everything... 1 - Ridley Scott gives a pre-Prometheus interview stating the film has "threads/strands of 'Alien' DNA in it." 2 - Post-Prometheus I witness many online bemoan the lack of xenomorphs... 3 - Covenant goes in production and while I have no evidence, it's pretty clear changes were made based on Prometheus reaction. I don't think they intended to show xenomorphs until the would-be third film... 4. Covenant releases and I see many comments to the effect of "but I wanted to know more about the Engineers!" Internet culture killed that trilogy early on, and they're already trying with Romulus if the comments on the final trailer are taken into account. A ridiculous amount of naysaying already despite it looking like the "true" sequel to the first two films many of us have long awaited...I'll be there ooening night regardless.
@@itsahostiletakeover Amen to that! It’s a shame that online BS affects that creative process of any film. Similar to you, the first two are far superior, but I’m glad you also enjoy these! Great to read your thoughts! Thanks for watching! I have covered all of them, if you’re interested!
@@itsahostiletakeover I’m grateful that these videos have done decent for a small channel like mine 😅 greatly appreciate people like you giving me a shot!
@@AnthonyAPerezYou really need to check out the extras. There's one additional piece where David is performing his lab experiments (from a first person view) and sending the information back to Weiland Yutani.
Personallly i was left underwhelmed walking out the cinema after covenant... Bad characterization was my summation.... I am hopeful though that Romulus will reinvigorate the franchise going back to basics with what made alien and aliens so good
I am definitely hopeful about Romulus, too! Trust me, I felt similar to you about this one. I guess rewatching them all gave me a new appreciation for it, but I totally get how you feel. Thanks for watching!
You just recap the film. I would love to hear some insight and some opinions from you. That’s why I watched this video. I want to know your insights on the character in depth.
@@davenatalie4221 Fair enough, man. Sorry this wasn’t what you were looking for. I’d have to watch back, but maybe I didn’t do that as much here. I’ve spoken a lot the characters in depth in the other alien videos I’ve done though, if you’re interested. If not, I get it. Thanks for giving this a shot! thanks for the feedback!
Entertaining enough but as part of the Alien franchise I rate it the second worst movie after Resurrection. More action than Prometheus although I thought the first half of the movie was stronger with the build up. Once again like Prometheus I found the performances hit and miss. Crudup was good, while Katherine Waterston's performance wasn't on the same level as Noomi Rapace's in the previous movie. The ending wasn't too surprising. The writing and ideas were starting to look a little too familiar. Distress signals, androids gone bad, hypersleep issues etc. Most of the entertainment came from the action scenes that were well staged and shot even though some of the actions by the characters were a little silly. Had enough of the David character by the end of this one. Didn't like it any better after a re-watch. Like Prometheus, a few good scenes. but it didn't hit the heights of the earlier movies. Would have preferred to have seen Scott direct the Blade Runner sequel but he handed over the reins for that one and the next Alien movie.
@@iansharp7422 hey! Totally fair outlook here. I think as someone who really didn’t care for this one much initially, it was nice to have enjoyed it more upon rewatch, BUT I don’t disagree with a lot of your takes. Katherine is definitely a lesser protagonist than Noomi, and a lot of poor choices are made by the characters. While I think I enjoyed David more than you, I totally agree that formula is definitely in place at this point, which is why I like Prometheus so much. It has some of those Alien formula elements, but also feels unique enough to have its own identity. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@AnthonyAPerez True, for me however, it's a double miscarriage. Ridley Scott ( and ruined no doubt by toxsick studio interference and demands ) has the Dan O' Bannon and Ronald Shusett blueprint and he failed. Odd. He took command for the 1979 movie.
@@Khultan I think his ideas were much more ambitious with these prequels than the OG. He nailed the original film, but part of what makes that first one so good is its simplicity. Here, he swung for the fences with some grand ideas. They don’t all land, but I think a lot of it still works.
@@AnthonyAPerez The stand alone film ( 1979 ) is actually risk taking than those prequels and the mid-quel debuting in August 16, 2024. Ridley should have stood his ground and stay on whatever story he originally intended but he wavered and surrendered.
@@Khultan That last part I can agree with. It’s a shame that he allowed a loud audience minority to redirect his story, and eventually just stop the trilogy all together. As for the risk of the original, I’m not saying it wasn’t a risky film to make at the time. It was inventive and impactful, but narratively simplistic in comparison to what he was going for with these prequels. He had far bigger narrative concepts with the prequels, even if they didn’t all come together.
This film didn't do much for me, especially knowing how Ridley Scott comprised his original vision due to audience feedback.
I also didn't appreciate how Shaw was handled either, given the setup at the end of Prometheus.
However, I will never forget that scene of David and Walter with the "You blow and I'll do the fingering" line. The writers were WILDING. 😭😭😭
@@DMovieman that scene DID NOT need to happen 😂
@@DMovieman when I first saw that scene with the flute I thought I must be watching an outtake that somehow made it into the film. Lmao
David: “How about some music, Mother?”
Only seen this movie once and I thought it was OK. After watching your review, it makes me want to revisit it again.
Great video! There’s a couple things I appreciate about Covenant. I like the setting and the neomorph design. I also liked the ending which I think is really terrifying. Katherine Waterston did an impeccable job showing complete horror on her face when she realizes who David is before he puts her to sleep. And like Prometheus, despite the film’s problems, the ending left room for the story to move forward (which I really do hope it does eventually, and I actually have a theory on how it could tie into Romulus).
Unfortunately everything else for me was mid to okay and there’s one thing I really didn’t like about it - the killing of Shaw. Why Ridley decided that it was best to kill her off screen between films is such a big mystery to me. It’s actually worse than Newt’s death in Alien 3 because at least we saw that death happen. Prometheus had such a lovely ending with the prospect of this lone survivor trying to find the meaning of life. And it just didn’t happen. I do like Michael Fassbender and he did a good job with his dual role, but dang I really wanted a different film than this when it comes down to it. All in all I like the film but there’s a lot about it that irked me.
Hey there! Thanks for coming back and watching this! Appreciate the kind words and loved reading your thoughts on this one. A lot of valid points that I agree with here! It had potential for me, and yes… SHAW DEAD?! Weak choice.
@@AnthonyAPerez Thanks. The alien series is one of my favorites and I feel like I can talk about it all day!
One of my favorite villains in the series
@@RuralProgressive David did nothing wrong.
There's a deleted scene that actually explains why Oram was so willing to stare directly into the egg. As they descend the staircase, there's a bowl on a small shelf on the wall and David tells him it's a balm that will help him overcome the smell. It's actually drugged which makes Oram more compliant to David's suggestion to "look closer."
@@_GeneralMechanics_ really?! Well, that should’ve stayed in 😂
@@AnthonyAPerez So should have the Prologues. The Crossing would have been perfectly placed during David's flashback to when he committed genocide.
I like Prometheus and Covenant for what they are. Can they touch the first two films, absolutely not. But they're solid enough entertainment for me as a longtime fan of the franchise's lore. That said, I witnessed first-hand these films becoming case-studies for why the 21st century issue of the internet giving everyone a voice convolutes everything...
1 - Ridley Scott gives a pre-Prometheus interview stating the film has "threads/strands of 'Alien' DNA in it."
2 - Post-Prometheus I witness many online bemoan the lack of xenomorphs...
3 - Covenant goes in production and while I have no evidence, it's pretty clear changes were made based on Prometheus reaction. I don't think they intended to show xenomorphs until the would-be third film...
4. Covenant releases and I see many comments to the effect of "but I wanted to know more about the Engineers!"
Internet culture killed that trilogy early on, and they're already trying with Romulus if the comments on the final trailer are taken into account. A ridiculous amount of naysaying already despite it looking like the "true" sequel to the first two films many of us have long awaited...I'll be there ooening night regardless.
@@itsahostiletakeover Amen to that! It’s a shame that online BS affects that creative process of any film. Similar to you, the first two are far superior, but I’m glad you also enjoy these! Great to read your thoughts! Thanks for watching! I have covered all of them, if you’re interested!
@@AnthonyAPerez Will do, looking forward to checking them out. The algorithm did a good job for once 😅
@@itsahostiletakeover I’m grateful that these videos have done decent for a small channel like mine 😅 greatly appreciate people like you giving me a shot!
I think the prologue you mentioned also comes in the special features.
@@CinematicTendency very likely! I haven’t looked at the special features of my Blu-ray set yet
@@AnthonyAPerez I bought a digital copy and it has it.
@@AnthonyAPerezYou really need to check out the extras. There's one additional piece where David is performing his lab experiments (from a first person view) and sending the information back to Weiland Yutani.
@@_GeneralMechanics_ I’ll definitely be seeking those out soon!
@@AnthonyAPerez Watch the Alien Day anthology webisodes too. "David's Lab: Last Signs of Life."
Personallly i was left underwhelmed walking out the cinema after covenant... Bad characterization was my summation.... I am hopeful though that Romulus will reinvigorate the franchise going back to basics with what made alien and aliens so good
I am definitely hopeful about Romulus, too! Trust me, I felt similar to you about this one. I guess rewatching them all gave me a new appreciation for it, but I totally get how you feel. Thanks for watching!
Hey justice for jussie! Never forget.
I was gonna bring all of that up in this video, but opted to just not focus on it 😂
Even if they’re not fantastic, I will always love all of the Alien films. Loved the review!
@@geektati12 give 3 and 4 a rewatch 😂
I enjoyed this one much more than prometheus. Other than the killing off of Elizabeth Shaw, that was bs.
You just recap the film. I would love to hear some insight and some opinions from you. That’s why I watched this video. I want to know your insights on the character in depth.
@@davenatalie4221 Fair enough, man. Sorry this wasn’t what you were looking for. I’d have to watch back, but maybe I didn’t do that as much here. I’ve spoken a lot the characters in depth in the other alien videos I’ve done though, if you’re interested. If not, I get it. Thanks for giving this a shot! thanks for the feedback!
Do Androids Dream of Electric Xenomorphs
I hope so
Entertaining enough but as part of the Alien franchise I rate it the second worst movie after Resurrection. More action than Prometheus although I thought the first half of the movie was stronger with the build up. Once again like Prometheus I found the performances hit and miss. Crudup was good, while Katherine Waterston's performance wasn't on the same level as Noomi Rapace's in the previous movie. The ending wasn't too surprising. The writing and ideas were starting to look a little too familiar. Distress signals, androids gone bad, hypersleep issues etc. Most of the entertainment came from the action scenes that were well staged and shot even though some of the actions by the characters were a little silly. Had enough of the David character by the end of this one. Didn't like it any better after a re-watch. Like Prometheus, a few good scenes. but it didn't hit the heights of the earlier movies. Would have preferred to have seen Scott direct the Blade Runner sequel but he handed over the reins for that one and the next Alien movie.
@@iansharp7422 hey! Totally fair outlook here. I think as someone who really didn’t care for this one much initially, it was nice to have enjoyed it more upon rewatch, BUT I don’t disagree with a lot of your takes. Katherine is definitely a lesser protagonist than Noomi, and a lot of poor choices are made by the characters. While I think I enjoyed David more than you, I totally agree that formula is definitely in place at this point, which is why I like Prometheus so much. It has some of those Alien formula elements, but also feels unique enough to have its own identity. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
The planet is not the engineer planet. If you looked carefully you would have seen a different species.
Which species? Cause I’m pretty sure they say it’s the home world of the engineers.
Elizabeth died because of infection from Prometheus. So David experimented with her body, because she loved her and wanted to ressurect her.
@@dis_inferno9173 perhaps I missed that detail. Isn’t that just what David implies?
@@AnthonyAPerez he killed Engineers, because he wanted to take revenge for Shaw
@@dis_inferno9173 I must’ve missed that detail entirely. Appreciate the correction.
No I don't think so
@@tokivikerness8863 100%
Weirdly enough i still havent seen this one lol
Flawed but i do enjoy Covenant
Alien Covenant is great and is better than alien romulus.
@@brianprue9435 while I preferred Romulus, I do think Covenant is pretty good!
Ridley Scott is mediocre when it comes to his ideas and they're reflected in these tame and vapid prequels. Razzie Awards material worthy.
@@Khultan I definitely don’t agree, but to each their own!
@@AnthonyAPerez True, for me however, it's a double miscarriage. Ridley Scott ( and ruined no doubt by toxsick studio interference and demands ) has the Dan O' Bannon and Ronald Shusett blueprint and he failed. Odd. He took command for the 1979 movie.
@@Khultan I think his ideas were much more ambitious with these prequels than the OG. He nailed the original film, but part of what makes that first one so good is its simplicity. Here, he swung for the fences with some grand ideas. They don’t all land, but I think a lot of it still works.
@@AnthonyAPerez The stand alone film ( 1979 ) is actually risk taking than those prequels and the mid-quel debuting in August 16, 2024.
Ridley should have stood his ground and stay on whatever story he originally intended but he wavered and surrendered.
@@Khultan That last part I can agree with. It’s a shame that he allowed a loud audience minority to redirect his story, and eventually just stop the trilogy all together.
As for the risk of the original, I’m not saying it wasn’t a risky film to make at the time. It was inventive and impactful, but narratively simplistic in comparison to what he was going for with these prequels. He had far bigger narrative concepts with the prequels, even if they didn’t all come together.