and btw, what am I doing with my life not using the freak xl or dye barrels you ask? I'M USING A FIELD ONE ACCULOCK KIT, which is far less likely to break fragile paint that enters the back/insert because it's highly tapered so the paintballs have a very smooth transition from breech to barrel MWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
I'd take the Geo-4 over the DSR, and my main reason would be, because I will NEVER use a marker that does not have a tapered bolt tip ever again if I can help t. Tapered bolt tips help reduce the chance of the top of the bolt clipping and taking a bite out of the bottom of the ball that sits above the breech when the bolt cycles. I do honestly like the looks of the DSR more tho, but at the end of the day, I imagine that both markers will shoot comparatively well and on target when at their best performance, but for me, it's which marker is least likely to cause paint to break, and the GEO-4 and it's tapered bolt tip wins for me.
Ive tested a few barrels I found that alot of the times they are not same bore all the way threw & can get stuck. Where as high quality barrel can actually be smaller bore & larger paint will fit in a smaller bore of a high quality barrel
HELLO , I just want to say because it`s never mentioned about the Blowing of the Solinoid ? when having a low Pressure operated Marker, one needs to take out x 2 Shims out of the Air Bottle to lower the input of air going into the Gun, because if you don`t do this > You`re in Trouble ?? don`t go and lend it to someone that hasn`t done this to their Bottle, screws his Bottle on and find out the gun stops > > > Too Late ??
The only thing I cant stand about these Dye guns (I own an M2) are the grips. They are the worst design ever. I think it would be faster to find an allen key, remove 2 screws from each grip, and then pull the panels off then it is to remove the toolless grips from these guns. 90% of your time is making sure you're tugging and pulling in the right direction to make sure you dont tear them. Oh and if you dont have long finger nails, good luck. I know you dont really need to get inside the grip frame as often, but as someone who loves to tinker and meticulously clean their guns, this is a huge annoyance. Huge Dye fan, but they need to figure something out with their grip system.
Hey, Jake. Just wanted to say great job! In the past (IMO) you were too defensive and came off like a bit of an azz, and personally not my fav, but in this video I have to give you a lot of credit (mad props!). You were funny, knowledgeable, and admitted when the Geo 4 either had a better feature or something positive to note. Also, you summed it up pretty well with "it's all personal preference"; these high-end markers are all so close in performance and how they shoot. It mostly comes down to how you like the details and of course the price.
i literally just sold my DSR and bought the exact same color GEO4 from lonewolf paintball! The DSR was nothing but a headache. My Spire IR would not stay secure in the DSR feedneck and I had it tightened all the way. The plastic piece you have to turn to get to the battery is junk. After turning it once it already tore a bit. The plastic lever on the asa is garbage and unreliable. I can not tell you how many times it unlatched during a match and I'd lose air. As for the triggers, I actually like having the adjustment options the GEO 4 provides. I played with the GEO4 saturday and sunday this past weekend and had 0 issues and it was shooting ropes! Its the first gun I've ever bought brand new out of the case and i couldnt be happier! I'll NEVER buy another DSR again. During World Cup the tip of the DSR bolt came off and jammed my feed and caused me to lose the match because it was down to me and one other guy and the DSR just stopped firing. Waste money on Dye markers if you want to but their quality has gone downhill.
"Whooo hoo hoo hoo... Could you feel the tension in the air right now? I know I can... I can feel it the way down in my plumbs" - Ashley Schaeffer - Eastbound & Down
@@foolishcreations2259 no there is not, you're right. But I was only correcting your statement lol. Although this guy was wrong. I've never had an M3+/s so I never had an issue with my DSR asa or thought it was bad. It's just different from PE and Luxe.
Pe Fanboys be like* but naw. Your right.😂I already have the Boomstick but I want the Geo 4 so bad.😭Pe's quality and reliability are so consistent.👌🏾if you have common sense it's difficult not to like at least one Pe marker at least once in one's pb career.
These two don't really compare in many ways, the DSR/DSR+ should stick to being compared to the markers in the price point like the Shocker AMP, 170r, etc.
@@MOVINGTOATL I agree that price doesn't say jack about a paintball marker, but it is a pretty reliable starting point when comparing one to another. Especially when comparing 1 company's marker to another company's marker. I wouldn't ever compare an Azodin to any PE, Dye, DLX or even an Empire marker. Axodin markers should be compared to broken nerf guns, lol.
The asa system on the dsr is bad, and the grips on it are horrible to remove, you tear the rubber line in the middle appart so quick. But it shoots really nice and sounds nice and you don't really have eyes to clean with that eye pipe👍 Geo4 asa is way better! And the grips are way easier to remove, but I sucks to clean the eyes on the geo4 🙈
Jake forgot to say how weak the battery connector is on the dsr. They break all the time and a pain to change. Oh and shot both and the geo is more efficient than the dsr.
No one ever says it but for the price of the Geo4 it annoys me that the eyes are still using a wire. So many high end markers don't have to worry about those cables anyone. ANNOYING and cheap on PEs part.
If anything they love their kids less because they are throwing no EU at them to make them hapoy. Not making them work and save to learn the value of money.
Jake is such a Dye fanboy...hey Jake, how many years did it take for Dye to FINALLY put an oled/screen of any type on their guns? Yeah, sit down buddy.
I'm convinced jake is long gone and you just found a dude on the side of the train tracks
Jake would be a great dye salesman
Dye fan boy
You should do a updated walk through of the shop and field with any changed you've made since your old video
Also with updates you have to since covid fucked everything up
billy wing duece trigger for DSR, is 👌🏻
Funny video and great comparison!
Geo 4 for the win!
Was surprised y'all didn't talk about the upgraded bolt system for the DSR and the Gen 4 Eye pipe.
They probably know nothing about such details.
I have all the upgrades and updates for my dsr and it ain't bad but nothing over the top
Team Insanity Paintball thank you for (partially) making my point.
You guys should....idk put a lone wolf paintball center in Wisconsin thats near Green Bay... just an idea.
You mentioned an upgrade to the DSR ASA. To what are you referring?
Day 4 asking for top 5 pump markers
Day one agreeing
Day 2 of agreeing
@@jfru0548 😆
@@steel4075 lol
They still make new pumps?
and btw, what am I doing with my life not using the freak xl or dye barrels you ask? I'M USING A FIELD ONE ACCULOCK KIT, which is far less likely to break fragile paint that enters the back/insert because it's highly tapered so the paintballs have a very smooth transition from breech to barrel MWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
I'd take the Geo-4 over the DSR, and my main reason would be, because I will NEVER use a marker that does not have a tapered bolt tip ever again if I can help t. Tapered bolt tips help reduce the chance of the top of the bolt clipping and taking a bite out of the bottom of the ball that sits above the breech when the bolt cycles. I do honestly like the looks of the DSR more tho, but at the end of the day, I imagine that both markers will shoot comparatively well and on target when at their best performance, but for me, it's which marker is least likely to cause paint to break, and the GEO-4 and it's tapered bolt tip wins for me.
Dye offers a "Flex" bolt for $50 that comes with a tapered soft tip.
@@jub07 OIC. That would be a deal breaker for me.
Ive tested a few barrels I found that alot of the times they are not same bore all the way threw & can get stuck. Where as high quality barrel can actually be smaller bore & larger paint will fit in a smaller bore of a high quality barrel
Just got rid of my DSR for a 170R and I made the best decision of my life. PR boys for life
what makes it so much better than the dsr?
andriy pohors pops asa, better bolt, better feed neck, access to the eyes, pop off grips,
@@andriypohors2538 nothing. He was just insecure because the other boys had PE guns.
Purely aesthetic but I like the red of the DSR.
Guys will you please compare all the dimensions and features with the cs1? Even shooting. I want to see the exact size comparissons..
HELLO , I just want to say because it`s never mentioned about the Blowing of the Solinoid ? when having a low Pressure operated Marker, one needs to take out x 2 Shims out of the Air Bottle to lower the input of air going into the Gun, because if you don`t do this > You`re in Trouble ?? don`t go and lend it to someone that hasn`t done this to their Bottle, screws his Bottle on and find out the gun stops > > > Too Late ??
Does the rubber go down the whole shaft?
The geo 4 has an amazing trigger
The only thing I cant stand about these Dye guns (I own an M2) are the grips. They are the worst design ever. I think it would be faster to find an allen key, remove 2 screws from each grip, and then pull the panels off then it is to remove the toolless grips from these guns. 90% of your time is making sure you're tugging and pulling in the right direction to make sure you dont tear them. Oh and if you dont have long finger nails, good luck. I know you dont really need to get inside the grip frame as often, but as someone who loves to tinker and meticulously clean their guns, this is a huge annoyance.
Huge Dye fan, but they need to figure something out with their grip system.
You're not wrong. This has been a major gripe of mine for years.
I agree
Agreed
Get a grip guy
You should do a pump paintball setup
Hey, Jake. Just wanted to say great job! In the past (IMO) you were too defensive and came off like a bit of an azz, and personally not my fav, but in this video I have to give you a lot of credit (mad props!). You were funny, knowledgeable, and admitted when the Geo 4 either had a better feature or something positive to note. Also, you summed it up pretty well with "it's all personal preference"; these high-end markers are all so close in performance and how they shoot. It mostly comes down to how you like the details and of course the price.
I’m sorry for the neighbors
Would y’all review Etha vs Etha2
There's no comparison. They shouldn't have even named it the Etha2 because its nothing like the Etha.
Really 🤣
i literally just sold my DSR and bought the exact same color GEO4 from lonewolf paintball! The DSR was nothing but a headache. My Spire IR would not stay secure in the DSR feedneck and I had it tightened all the way. The plastic piece you have to turn to get to the battery is junk. After turning it once it already tore a bit. The plastic lever on the asa is garbage and unreliable. I can not tell you how many times it unlatched during a match and I'd lose air. As for the triggers, I actually like having the adjustment options the GEO 4 provides. I played with the GEO4 saturday and sunday this past weekend and had 0 issues and it was shooting ropes! Its the first gun I've ever bought brand new out of the case and i couldnt be happier! I'll NEVER buy another DSR again. During World Cup the tip of the DSR bolt came off and jammed my feed and caused me to lose the match because it was down to me and one other guy and the DSR just stopped firing. Waste money on Dye markers if you want to but their quality has gone downhill.
How do you travel with paintball guns ?
You check in your gear bag onto the plane. No way will they let you have that as a carry on
Haha , I have the same issue with small hands , but I shot vanquish and cs2 and lv1 and never had an issue with my small hands
"Whooo hoo hoo hoo... Could you feel the tension in the air right now? I know I can... I can feel it the way down in my plumbs" - Ashley Schaeffer - Eastbound & Down
PE over DYE any day. I can’t wait to get my Geo 4 next week!
The Geo isn't an oled amirite? Same LCD from the CS1 line.
CS1 worked at 115 psi, idk how to feel about the geo 4.
Mark: Ooo put them tip to tip
Tony was not feeling Jake 🤣🤣🤣
Jake check your facts! You can’t use the M3 pops asa on the DSR! If I could I would have put it on lol
He didn't say you could. He said you can upgrade but didn't know the price.
J's play there is no upgraded asa for the DSR currently
@@foolishcreations2259 no there is not, you're right. But I was only correcting your statement lol. Although this guy was wrong. I've never had an M3+/s so I never had an issue with my DSR asa or thought it was bad. It's just different from PE and Luxe.
You can update the dsr
“I don’t need to chrono my gun if I’m not gonna be checked by the refs”. Lmao Jake speaking facts
100% the truth. When I see them, I run the other way
@@xXD4Rke4PeRXx shooting that Detroit 300?
Why doesn't anyone mention planets patented offset feed neck?.. no other company in paintball can use this feature!
They've been using the Deftek feedneck since the original 05 Ego, so I'm pretty sure most people know about it. That is a valid point though.
whats the problem with dry firing a paintball gun? its not a firearm. theres no firing pin to damage. dry fire doesnt hurt it.
The geo4 won hands down
😂😂🗑
I’m looking for a new marker and I can’t decide. Which one should I go with if my choices are the Dye DSR, Or the Empire Vanquish GT?
Dsr
Both are great markers and will do what you want them to do.
You can't go wrong with either of them.
Ignore the blind fans and get what feels better
You guys are so funny!! Lol
Can you make a video about the axe 2.0
They did
They have at least 3 videos on it
Planet eclipse makes the best markers in the game hands down. No competition
Pe Fanboys be like* but naw. Your right.😂I already have the Boomstick but I want the Geo 4 so bad.😭Pe's quality and reliability are so consistent.👌🏾if you have common sense it's difficult not to like at least one Pe marker at least once in one's pb career.
Planet eclipse and macdev both. Top two. Dye being 3rd. Imho
These two don't really compare in many ways, the DSR/DSR+ should stick to being compared to the markers in the price point like the Shocker AMP, 170r, etc.
@@MOVINGTOATL I agree that price doesn't say jack about a paintball marker, but it is a pretty reliable starting point when comparing one to another. Especially when comparing 1 company's marker to another company's marker. I wouldn't ever compare an Azodin to any PE, Dye, DLX or even an Empire marker. Axodin markers should be compared to broken nerf guns, lol.
The asa system on the dsr is bad, and the grips on it are horrible to remove, you tear the rubber line in the middle appart so quick. But it shoots really nice and sounds nice and you don't really have eyes to clean with that eye pipe👍
Geo4 asa is way better! And the grips are way easier to remove, but I sucks to clean the eyes on the geo4 🙈
The point on the selenoïd priceless #dyebestmarker
Why do they say sillonoid. Isn't solenoid.
Jake doesn't need a tool, because he is one.
Jake forgot to say how weak the battery connector is on the dsr. They break all the time and a pain to change. Oh and shot both and the geo is more efficient than the dsr.
Never had an issue with the battery connector
40k shots and haven’t had that problem ?
No one ever says it but for the price of the Geo4 it annoys me that the eyes are still using a wire. So many high end markers don't have to worry about those cables anyone. ANNOYING and cheap on PEs part.
I use parabolic barrels😎
Geo4 vs m3s+
If i ever see a 14yr old with a $1k+ marker...Imma question why my parents didnt love me enough when i was younger
Saving up for one as a 14
@@aidansundell995 and you also think you can shoot 27bps on semi. Just like all the other 13 yr olds
I had one at that age but I spent a whole summer doing yard work. Lol still got my pm6!
If anything they love their kids less because they are throwing no EU at them to make them hapoy. Not making them work and save to learn the value of money.
@@MossyRootz I remember those times, I still have a red Dm6 with contract Killer grips and a black trooper ego6 team nexus edition.
I'll take the dsr
Geo 4 or bust.
Used to smoke crack out of!!!! Lmfao 😂😂😂😂
There is no upgrade for the DSR asa
Geo 4 is probably better but the dsr is cheaper
Top poppet guns
Jake is such a Dye fanboy...hey Jake, how many years did it take for Dye to FINALLY put an oled/screen of any type on their guns? Yeah, sit down buddy.
Jake looks like a guy that would have an anime pillow and still lives with his parents.
Livin the life
Hi
Dye or die
I guess I’ll die
Why do all markers look the same nowadays
They all work just the same these days
DSR all the way
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@@noahmoser1250 omg you found me again
@@shaggyproductions263 Corbin you found me again omg
@@noahmoser1250 we found each other
@@shaggyproductions263 it was meant to be😂
Don’t get me wrong dye is great but it’s not all that! There tons of comps out there making great products as well.
The trigger is the worst thing on my DSR lul....
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I love this debate!!!!!!!!! Lol
Eh, I'll take the CS2 over both of these
It’s gonna take me 3 years to buy a cs2 lol
Lol
Why?
Because I’m broke it’s called saving
@@lilgreg6014 facts
I have 170r currently so next one is gonna be a cs2 luxe X or a dye m3 plus
Geo. Duh
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Pump markers
Geo foh
Poop
Its nice of lone wolf to let a homeless drifter come on the show and give his opinion on paintball guns.
No comp.. winner winner, geo4
Not a fan of this Jake clown
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