"THE PORT OF TOLEDO OHIO, U.S.A." GREAT LAKES SHIPPING PORT SS EDMUND FITZGERALD XD60334

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    This film, "The Port Of Toledo, Ohio U.S.A." was produced by the Public Relations Department of the Toledo-Lucas County Port Authority. The film was made circa 1963 to promote the Port of Toledo, a large Great Lakes port located at the western end of Lake Erie. The Port provides intermodal access to rail and trucking resources, as well as Big Lucas and Little Lucas, two of the largest cranes of any port on the Great Lakes. It is currently operated by the Toledo-Lucas County Port Authority. Note: the lake carrier that is shown in the opening, the SS Edmund Fitzgerald, sank during a storm in November 10, 1975, with the loss of the entire crew.
    The film opens with the SS Edmund Fitzgerald ship towing a smaller boat at 0:19. The narrator starts by saying that the Port of Toledo has been a large bulk handling port for nearly a half century at 0:56. Helicopter shot shows hundreds of railcars containing 300 types of soft coal at 1:11. A large mammoth loader is shown at 1:36. The conveyor belts that move the coal are shown at 2:24. The loading of the ships is shown at 2:46. The film shows a private terminal that was formed ten years before the new seaway at 3:13, it was the first location to load oversea ships with general cargo. Harbor installations showing ship building and repair are shown at 3:50. Next to the shipyard is one of the largest clean iron plants on the Great Lakes, shown at 4:02. The film then shows an oil refinery at 4:13.
    Libbey Glass shown being made in Toledo Products at 4:34. A man tuning a scale at Toledo Scales is shown at 4:40. A ship is shown on a deep raft waterway at 5:10. A ship docking at The Port of Toledo is shown at 5:27. The gate controller is shown at 5:37. The film shows a vessel being raised as it enters the Port of Toledo at 6:18. The first general cargo terminal located on the Port is shown at 7:14. The second general cargo terminal is shown at 7:52. The open storage area is shown at 8:08. One of the two Gantry Cranes is shown at 9:14. The film shows 18 of the 30 acres for the holding commodities at 9:41. The helicopter passes over the building that contains the foreign trade zone at 10:00. The only Free Port in the area is shown at 10:17. The port also has a liquid storage terminal, this terminal has a capacity for 7 million gallons, shown at 10:55. Big Lucas, the Port Authority's Gantry Crane, is shown at 11:19. It can place 110 tons on a ship, or 80 tons in the hold.
    The film shows the new seaway that opened in 1969 at 12:01. Then, the film shows an area which is the prime trading territory of the port at 12:46. The narrator explains the financial benefits of using the Port of Toledo over the normal landways at 13:05. The narrator explains that harbor installations are on or nearby major North, South, East, and West expressway systems and turnpikes at 13:45. The port is also the hub of a vast railway network, shown at 14:24.
    The film shows workers bottling imported Olives from Spain at 14:28. More workers are shown making corn pickers at 14:36. A machine that ties packages of all kinds in Michigan is shown at 15:02. Volkswagens are shown leaving Germany for their port of exit at 15:52. The ship Johannes Russ is shown at 16:00. The narrator says that by the end of 1965, the Port of Toledo had handled more than 100,000 Volkswagens, at 16:30. Port of Toledo is also better financially for export, the film shows a Jeep being exported at 16:58. Hundreds of Jeeps, probably destined for Vietnam, are shown at 17:23. High speed ships such as the German cargo liner Transmichigan are shown at 17:51. The film ends at 18:20.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 143

  • @dozerboymiller
    @dozerboymiller Рік тому +63

    Wow, wild that the first ship shown was the Edmund Fitzgerald. Great documentary.

    • @williamrogers7974
      @williamrogers7974 Рік тому +7

      This was Big Fitz' home port

    • @williamrogers7974
      @williamrogers7974 Рік тому +6

      Hence its nickname "the Toledo Express"

    • @billyanthony88
      @billyanthony88 Рік тому +3

      Milwaukee was the Fitzgeralds home port, not Toledo.
      She was nicknamed the Toledo express because she had that regular run for many years.

    • @alanrogs3990
      @alanrogs3990 3 місяці тому

      Amazing catch

  • @kaiyack
    @kaiyack Рік тому +9

    Wow that’s some rare footage of the Edmund Fitzgerald

  • @caseysmith1718
    @caseysmith1718 Рік тому +57

    As a young Toledo resident (under 30), it's so cool to see what the port area looked like back in the day. Awesome seeing a "Toledo Blade" branded truck, as well as a shout out to the local businesses we were known for. Glad to see they did include Big Lucas and showed off Jeep!

    • @kesmarn
      @kesmarn Рік тому +12

      As a very ancient Toledoan, I have to say how cool it is to see a young resident taking pride in the city he lives in. Thank you! For some reason unknown to me, Toledo has always had something of a community inferiority complex. I was born here, lived away for a number of years and then returned.
      One of the best qualities of Toledo is that it has an amazing number of different ethnic/racial groups who get along well together. I've always thought of it as the "Magic of Festivals." From early spring to late fall (at least before the pandemic) virtually every week there would be at least one festival: German-American, Greek, International (at the Muslim Mosque), Hungarian, Polish, Hindu, African-American, and too many more to mention here, including a lot of church parish festivals. The music and food...excellent. Lots of nice restaurants too. Sure, the city isn't perfect, but no city is. Still and all, I've never lived in another city that knew a lot of its homeless residents by name and made serious efforts to help them.

    • @caseysmith1718
      @caseysmith1718 Рік тому +4

      @@kesmarn I agree completely! Although my memories of German American festival are generally...incomplete, at best 🤣 it seems like we give ourselves worse of a rap than we actually deserve. I'll just say we're a humble city!

    • @horseplop9
      @horseplop9 Рік тому +3

      It was amazing son. Sad to see it today

    • @nicholassheehan7327
      @nicholassheehan7327 Рік тому +3

      I was born in Toledo in the late 90s and lived at secor/Alexis area and sylvania/Lewis area. When I was young my grandma use to show me pictures of Sylvania ave in the 20s and 30s and it always was interesting to learn about. our citys history

    • @mbhinkle
      @mbhinkle Рік тому

      Same here from Sandusky...but Toledo was always the big city growing up

  • @tomshiba51
    @tomshiba51 Рік тому +16

    Born and raised in Toledo, I never realized the magnitude of operations that occurred in our port. My uncle took me to see the USCG Mackinaw when it visited the port of Toledo in the late 70's. He showed me the welds he had made on the vessel when it was built in Toledo in 1944.

  • @owenjones9659
    @owenjones9659 Рік тому +14

    nice to see that you posted this on the anniversary of the mighty fitz

  • @eddiesimms9301
    @eddiesimms9301 Рік тому +16

    As a little boy growing up in Seattle as far back as my memory takes me to 1962, we lived in the Yesler Terrence Housing Projects which sat up a hill and it gave a good view of the industrial part of Seattle. It included harbor island and the rail yard that both Great Northern, Northern Pacific and Union Pacific occupied, you could also see the King Street Station and the Union Street Station as well. I LOVED watching all this from our bedroom window, come the night time when I was supposed to be sleeping I would lay in bed and LISTEN to the sound of BIG Trucks coming and going and they would fade into the night and I would say to myself "One day I'm going to get myself a JOB drivin' a BIG TRUCK, or I'm going to be a locomotive engineer operate a diesel engine train".....
    Then I would fade into a dream zzzz ......
    After I completed HS, I joined the US Army and SERVED my Country, once that was completed I became a Truck Driver and traveled the 9 western states.

    • @austinbladel5913
      @austinbladel5913 Рік тому

      Thank you for your service Mr. Eddie. I'm glad you could live your dreams driving those big trucks. I always thought it would be cool too but never pursued those dreams.

  • @flyingfortressrc1794
    @flyingfortressrc1794 Рік тому +6

    Wow living 40 miles from Toledo, I had no idea how this all worked.
    Great video, Thanks.

  • @Rational863
    @Rational863 Рік тому +13

    I wish people were this enthusiastic about industry today. 😪

    • @WSNO
      @WSNO Рік тому

      As soon as they realize nobody cares about their honda civic they post on instagram that's exactly the same as every other one on there they'll need something else to do. That's your chance

    • @mjg3272
      @mjg3272 Рік тому

      @Florida Nick Too much brainwashing, too little testosterone.

    • @oldsrocket8841
      @oldsrocket8841 Рік тому +1

      They are and they're known as the Chinese.

    • @ttnyny
      @ttnyny Рік тому +1

      American companies chose to outsource.

  • @HoshizakiYoshimasa
    @HoshizakiYoshimasa Рік тому +15

    The World Famous Edmund Fitzgerald 0:30 RIP to the crew!
    Interesting video. Back before the term "Rust Belt" didn't exist and China didn't dominate global manufacturing. This was the Great Lakes at their peak.

  • @RedCoalsSweatSouls
    @RedCoalsSweatSouls Рік тому +6

    I believe in Great Lake Erie being healed~

  • @briscoedarling3237
    @briscoedarling3237 Рік тому +5

    I love how Leave it to Beaver-type theme music goes so well with industrial shipping and coal dumping….

  • @DrFrag-wh2qh
    @DrFrag-wh2qh Рік тому +12

    Does this bring back some memories I was born and raised next to the port. The Gantry crane “Big Luke” and “Lil Luke” were just 200/300 yards from my parents house. I was born in 1962 so all the companies that they talk about Toledo scale, Champion, Kaiser, Toledo Blade we’re still very large companies. Thanks for the memories

  • @dtdimeflicks6708
    @dtdimeflicks6708 Рік тому +1

    I used to live right along the Maumee River in the 80's and 90's. I loved watching the lake freighters passing by.

  • @theyangview1898
    @theyangview1898 Рік тому +17

    My brother-in-law owned that ship repair & building facility at 3:50
    His company worked on the Edmund Fitzgerald two weeks before it sank

    • @williamrogers7974
      @williamrogers7974 Рік тому +2

      I wouldn't talk about that, cause whats that say about his workmanship?

    • @chuckg6039
      @chuckg6039 Рік тому +1

      @@williamrogers7974 Or what it says about Fitz management looking the other way.

    • @tomlangley6236
      @tomlangley6236 Рік тому

      Did he get paid?

    • @johnstudd4245
      @johnstudd4245 Рік тому

      @@williamrogers7974 Yeah, that's nothing to brag about. lol Of course realistically they prob had nothing to do with the seaworthiness, or lack of, of the vessel.

  • @w8lvradio
    @w8lvradio Рік тому +10

    I couldn't help but notice that the ship in the opening scene is the Edmund Fitzgerald. 73 DE W8LV BILL

  • @picustchuck
    @picustchuck Рік тому +4

    Thank you sir, great memories. My father worked for Oglebay Norton and we would wait at that very dock for the boat to come in. He'd haul taconite from Superior and unload, move the boat and load coal for the return trip. Loved climbing that ladder and eating with the men in the galley.

  • @randywineinger779
    @randywineinger779 Рік тому +6

    Nice to see the Port of Toledo in the spot light. I worked on the Grain Elevator docks on the Maumee River as a young man. Lots of memories loading Russian and Chinese vessels for export. Sampled many a rail cars as well.

  • @JTA1961
    @JTA1961 Рік тому +5

    I recently acquired a bunch of items from Toledo & Dayton that were in a building in Tucson Arizona... so like no rust. From a family that ran 4 grocery stores before "corporations" took over. Each family member used a room to store whatever they wanted to keep. I've got brand new payphones, & used scales, stamp machines... the list goes on & on & on...I grew up in Japan with moms family from Canton & never realized that that area must have been like the silicone Valley of it's day. Anyways be nice to get some of these items back to where they haven't been destroyed by oxidation if anyone still cares about them...

  • @outlawflyer7868
    @outlawflyer7868 Рік тому +8

    I have only lived in Cleveland for 3 years now and I am fascinated by the rich culture and history that comes from the great lakes. One day, these plants will come back. This was a great documentary.

    • @riverraisin1
      @riverraisin1 Рік тому

      With the high cost of importing goods from the likes of China nowadays, I think you're right.

    • @katieandkevinsears7724
      @katieandkevinsears7724 Рік тому

      Only if we get rid of the idiot politicians who sent our jobs overseas...and find millennials willing to do real actual work.

  • @scottburns2600
    @scottburns2600 Рік тому +3

    I love the vintage documentary music

  • @Veritas419
    @Veritas419 Рік тому +60

    Champion, DeVilbiss, Toledo Scale, Interlake Iron Corp, most of the shipyards, cranes, manufacturers mention except for jeep are all gone. This isn’t nostalgia for me, it’s depressing seeing how far my hometown has declined in such a short period of time.

    • @scottydog62
      @scottydog62 Рік тому +3

      I agree with you, depressing. Obviously it's not just Toledo

    • @Bkings7
      @Bkings7 Рік тому +1

      It's truly a goddamn shame

    • @diamond123115
      @diamond123115 Рік тому

      F***ing Unions drove them away

    • @Bkings7
      @Bkings7 Рік тому +7

      @@diamond123115 nevermind the fact the union is what made the jobs good and built the city but unions bad

    • @Gannett2011
      @Gannett2011 Рік тому +1

      It's funny the way we've been brainwashed to blame China and other overseas manufacturers for the decline of places like Toledo, when in fact it was greedy US companies who shipped all this industry overseas. Places like Toledo were numbers on a spreadsheet to suits in boardrooms, and when they ate into the profits, they were abandoned. Now wiuth inflation and world tensions they're beginning to talk about domestic industry again, but you can bet it won't be well-paying union labor that'll create the wealth this time.

  • @KatzenjammerKid61
    @KatzenjammerKid61 Рік тому +3

    Did not expect that opening.

  • @ro101anon7
    @ro101anon7 Рік тому +1

    I grew up in Cleveland and I remember the wreck. How terrible. Then the song came out. So surreal to hear your memories put to song...

  • @kdaleboley
    @kdaleboley Рік тому +1

    The legend lives on from the Chipewa on down.

  • @gehlen52
    @gehlen52 Рік тому +12

    I remember seeing the Edmond Fitzgerald numerous times as we either drove along Miami St. beside the river or over the High-level bridge (Anthony Wayne). It was around 1962, at the time I thought President Kennedy had something to do with the ship because of the name, I was 9 years old.

    • @bubpori5105
      @bubpori5105 Рік тому

      you were right ! kennedy cousin insurance president owner!.Edmond Fitzgerald !

    • @gehlen52
      @gehlen52 Рік тому +3

      @@bubpori5105 I'm afraid Edmond Fitzgerald of Northwestern Mutual Life for whom the ship was named was no relation to the Kennedy's, those were just my thoughts as a kid.

    • @bubpori5105
      @bubpori5105 Рік тому +1

      @@gehlen52 If you ask alexa she says they were cousins !

    • @gehlen52
      @gehlen52 Рік тому +1

      @@bubpori5105 Fitzgerald is a middle name, not a family name. The Edmond Fitzgerald family tree has no Kennedy's in it.

  • @Jaymindrew1990
    @Jaymindrew1990 Рік тому +1

    0:18 Who else came here to see the very famous ship name displayed in the beginning of this video? I was not prepared for the shock!

  • @StonesAndSand
    @StonesAndSand Рік тому +8

    0:19 The tug is pushing the E.F. It is not being towed.

  • @ernestconnell8087
    @ernestconnell8087 Рік тому +4

    Holy Toledo

  • @caesarchurchill8384
    @caesarchurchill8384 Рік тому

    😀😀😁😁😍😍👍👍From malls to shopping districts, from boutiques to pop-ups

  • @dubdaze68
    @dubdaze68 Рік тому

    Man, what a great video.

  • @JazznRealHipHop
    @JazznRealHipHop Рік тому +5

    There used to be an ancient Indian fort located on the banks. Leveled and destroyed by the early white settlers. Maumee river is famous for its walleye runs in spring, can only imagine how plentiful it was before we polluted the rivers and lakes. Dumping raw sewage, chemicals and farmland fertilizers for decades. Shame. But I still love Toledo.

    • @nnaturalheaven3754
      @nnaturalheaven3754 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for sharing their was an Indian fort located at the banks. That is the kind of info I came looking for so greatly appreciated.

    • @JohnstonRobare
      @JohnstonRobare Рік тому

      @6:38 "most of this area was merely marshland"
      Oh yeah, not like we needed healthy wetlands 🙄

  • @saylortusk8489
    @saylortusk8489 Рік тому +11

    My heart stopped when I noticed the ship name.

    • @christopherwelch136
      @christopherwelch136 Рік тому +3

      Oh crap. Yes.

    • @CXY96
      @CXY96 Рік тому

      What is special about it?

    • @saylortusk8489
      @saylortusk8489 Рік тому

      @@CXY96 ua-cam.com/video/9vST6hVRj2A/v-deo.html

    • @CXY96
      @CXY96 Рік тому +1

      @@saylortusk8489 Thank you.

    • @saylortusk8489
      @saylortusk8489 Рік тому +1

      @@CXY96 That song was a Top 40 hit in the early 1970s.

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm Рік тому

    Holy Toledo!

  • @juancabrillo6859
    @juancabrillo6859 Рік тому +5

    In Google Maps the coal handling facility at 2:00 still looks the same today as in the movie.

    • @keebz75
      @keebz75 Рік тому +2

      We’re still loading coal here!

  • @TraitofSiNN727
    @TraitofSiNN727 Рік тому +6

    *COLONEL KURTZ* "Where are you from Willard ?"
    *WILLARD* "I'm from Ohio, sir."
    *KURTZ* "Were you born there ?"
    *WILLARD* "Yes, sir."
    *KURTZ* "Whereabouts ?"
    *WILLARD* "Toledo, sir."
    *KURTZ* "How far were you from the river ?"
    *WILLARD* "The Ohio river, sir ? About 200 miles."
    *KURTZ* "I went down that river when I was a kid. There's a place in the river.. I can't remember... Must have been a gardenia plantation at one time. All wild and overgrown now, but about five miles you'd think that heaven just fell on the earth in the form of gardenias...

    • @murda2999
      @murda2999 Рік тому +2

      I've lived here in Toledo for almost 40 years and I never knew that this is where he is supposedly from! Thanks. Corp Klinger is the main soldier we always hear about.

    • @TraitofSiNN727
      @TraitofSiNN727 Рік тому +1

      @@murda2999 that and a lot of Major.Killgore(Robert Duvall)
      "..I love the smell napalm in the morning.."
      But this scene I absolutely love when Willard(Martin Sheen) finally meet the infamous Col.Kurtz(Marlon Brando)for the very first time.

    • @AJKPenguin
      @AJKPenguin Рік тому

      Sounds like the plantation was Blennerhassett Island.

  • @thegamingrhino5864
    @thegamingrhino5864 Рік тому +5

    Now look at whats happened to toledo. Definitely not the same as it was in 1963

  • @cpcattin
    @cpcattin Рік тому

    Oh Toledo ! I can’t count the times I’ve been weighed in Toledo.

  • @riverraisin1
    @riverraisin1 Рік тому +1

    Big Fitz sighting @ 00:17

  • @alanrogs3990
    @alanrogs3990 3 місяці тому

    During the recent Jeep strike I was driving down Stickney Ave and saw a big black mama striker twerking on the side of the road. It was then I knew Toledo would rise again.

  • @djcb4190
    @djcb4190 Рік тому +1

    "The Port of Toledo will remain the same as ithaseven been"

  • @seventheoutlawspits
    @seventheoutlawspits Рік тому

    OUTHILL U.S.A. 🤟🏿
    Iykyk
    #SevenTheRev

  • @Xbb.1.5
    @Xbb.1.5 Рік тому +7

    Late great Toledo.
    Now a crime ridden shell of its former self.

  • @ellenm9058
    @ellenm9058 Рік тому

    It would stop at the C & O Coaldocks!

  • @1978garfield
    @1978garfield Рік тому

    Do they handle containers at that port now?
    Seems like it would be a great location.

  • @TheWizardGamez
    @TheWizardGamez Рік тому +3

    its crazy, none of that shit is there except for the oil refinery and the grain elevator

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B Рік тому

      What happened to those blast furnaces producing "pig iron?"

    • @RomeKG471
      @RomeKG471 Рік тому +2

      @@WAL_DC-6B All gone, now there is a new plant east of there, Cleveland -Cliffs, tallest tower in Toledo.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B Рік тому +2

      @@RomeKG471 Thanks for the update regarding the fate of the blast furnaces. Yes, I'm aware of the relatively new iron briquettes plant operated by Cleveland-Cliffs. I just hope Packo's survives! Especially their original restaurant/tavern east of downtown Toledo.

    • @RomeKG471
      @RomeKG471 Рік тому +1

      @@WAL_DC-6B Your welcome! Right!

    • @keebz75
      @keebz75 Рік тому +2

      It’s still here! We still dump coal here. 1 machine left. And we have an iron ore dock next door. Not nearly the amount of tracks though.

  • @mikepoteet1443
    @mikepoteet1443 Рік тому +1

    What a beautiful and scenic city.

  • @richardrykala925
    @richardrykala925 Рік тому +1

    Very impressive to see how mighty Toledo Shipping Port was, should never have did business with China period.

  • @christopherwelch136
    @christopherwelch136 Рік тому +1

    Where are the maersk containers? 😀

  • @briscoedarling3237
    @briscoedarling3237 Рік тому +1

    Who knew that a coal dumper could be ‘sophisticated’?

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 Рік тому +1

      They had to "train" them to stay on "track"

  • @stephencurryi8481
    @stephencurryi8481 Рік тому

    Is it okay to use your videos for my historical content here in youtube?
    I won't get copyright claims or strike?

  • @richardrykala925
    @richardrykala925 Рік тому +1

    At around 1.50 those ships and Coal Loaders would of been in the area of Oregon , near Toledo, Maumee State Park and Beach to the east , we recognize the land across as Michigan shoreline. Detroit lost much much more than Toledo, specially along the riverfront. The 67 Riots not only made more than a Million people leave Detroit, which was more than %60 of the population but left acres and acres of burn,t out homes,business and entire empty neighborhoods of vacant weed infested land where homes and people once lived, Toledo never had that happen, no large vacant empty lands or burn,t out neighborhoods, also racial population is the opposite in Toledo from Detroit. Crime is %100 worse not just in Detroit but in the 3 main counties , Wayne,Oakland and Macomb and has started spreading to West to Ann Arbor and Lansing.Badly engineered sewer system in Detroit poor maintenance and constant flooding and power outage , even in totally good weather.

  • @leoseabright
    @leoseabright Рік тому +1

    Break bulk ships!

  • @jeffreymartin8448
    @jeffreymartin8448 Рік тому

    What happened ?

  • @aspiceronni4462
    @aspiceronni4462 Рік тому +1

    Ive been to Toledo once on the way back from Niagara Falls. I thought we were gonna get shot.

  • @ERTB
    @ERTB Рік тому

    800

  • @steelwheels327
    @steelwheels327 Рік тому +6

    Unfortunately this story has a ending almost none of that exist anymore . America continues to put itself out of business and with it jobs all in the name of making it cheaper for more $$$

  • @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
    @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu Рік тому +5

    Michigan won the Toledo War and got to trade Toledo for the U.P. and Isle Royale.

    • @TheWizardGamez
      @TheWizardGamez Рік тому +1

      ohio didnt exactly have claim on the UP. they essentially screwed the cheese heads over

    • @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
      @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu Рік тому +4

      @@TheWizardGamez Toledo was located in Michigan, but to be granted statehood Michigan had to give up land and cede Toledo to Ohio but received the U. P. and Isle Royale as compensation.

    • @Eric_Beatty
      @Eric_Beatty Рік тому

      Wrong

  • @jamesroberts2115
    @jamesroberts2115 Рік тому

    Now a maritime backwater.

  • @WojciechP915
    @WojciechP915 Рік тому +3

    I lived in Toledo for one year and it sucked. Netty's is the worst food on earth.

  • @nowaynoway915
    @nowaynoway915 Рік тому +1

    Toledo sucks now 😂 😔

  • @jamesomalley4556
    @jamesomalley4556 Рік тому +2

    MAGA and it does not have to be Trump!