Excellent video, tree stand hunter here and the aim point was spot on. That shot placement will cut both lungs as the arrow passes through the deer. You probably looking at 50 yards for the deer to collaspe. Bring some corn to place on the ground where the deer expired and say a small prayer for the greatful harvest. Good hunting, aim small shoot small. Oh one thing I do to avoid the BUCK fever/shakes is to view the deer as a target in my yard, works great for me and my buddies.
Very helpful video. I am still practicing and learning for my first archery deer hunt and this video helps visualize the shot placement. I really appreciate people like you willing to take the time to better inform hunters. Thank you.
Thanks for the great video! Im bowhunting for the first time this season and after all the research and learning and practicing Ive done this is the best lesson Ive seen!
When I first started hunting, my dad used to get out old hunting magazines and an ink pen and make me mark where I would shoot that deer. Follow that front leg up has always been drilled in my head. Good video!
Good knowledge, I hope bow hunters here in Australia see this video, that's exactly how I place my shot and so far I have never lost a kill, I'm on my 274th samber deer and I have also shot over 300 other species of deer using the same method. It's great to see someone make a perfect video. Cheers
Learned that marble tip from Steven Rinella also. Since I do mainly gun deer I know I'm confident with my rifle, scope and bullets I can shoot 1 moa groupings with my rifle so I aim for that spot and know that I have at most a 5in radius of a kill shot in case I make a bad shot. Great advice and video!
So much better advice on shot placement for gun or bow than the video of the old man drinking a beer. The vitals are at the same place in both seasons.
Right at the top of the armpit and this accounts for them dropping a few inches on the release as well I've watched a few deer's hearts glow up like a water balloon filled with red paint
Why don’t you want to hit slightly forward and get more impact on the heart? Wouldn’t that be better? Wouldn’t that impact and pierce both lungs and the heart?
I have used this in my kills and it is 100% true always shoot for the rear of the heart. Iv done front shots,side shots and one rear side shot and have had clean kills.
Use whatever front leg is in the most perpendicular angle to the ground. Follow that up with your site until your centered on the lower 1/3 of the deer, X marks the spot. Allowing for deer movement and all other variables this is by far your best aim point. You can never shoot a broadhead that's to sharp.
My instructor said imagine a tractor tyre. I was a shitty shot. Still am. I put an arrow just under a mile over a buck once. Best shot I’ve managed so far...
Hello sir is that bolt you're holding a Pile Driver by Carbon Express. if so it's the best bolt out there by a mile no other bolt comes close to it for accuracy and penetration. I use 20" and 22" for my crossbows. Easton bloodline arrows 400 spine at 31" for my bows. I've tried other bolts and arrows over the years.. pile-driver and Easton bloodline only fodder I will ever use. I've learnt so much from your videos Keep up the good work your doing.
Mr King: That depends on what you consider the heart. The heart muscle itself is generally biased to the left and canted to the right. But if you consider the whole heart complex, it is might as well be centered. Doesn't matter, really. If you put a bullet or broadhead through that general area on a deer, you have meat in the freezer.
Greg Jennings well I’m talking human, not 100% sure with deer to be honest but yah if you were to go for the center on a human (not recommended) you would hit heart although you wouldn’t hit the center of the heart.
I just shot mine that was standing broadside right in front of leg and it went through caught heart and severed the wind pipe he didnt go more then 15 yrds
I would disagree about aiming that far forward because unless your a spot on shot, you might hit shoulder. I did that with a doe this year and sadly she ls still on trail camera a month after the shot with the arrow in her shoulder. I like to aim for center of lungs so if I miss back a few inches I hit gut, which still kills it faster than shoulder, but if I miss forward a few inches my shot is perfect.
Good video. Wouldn't it be better to illustrated a dummy life-like deer. Most people can picture the dummy-deer in their memory better then the anatomy of the inside. Also in general its really a fist size target for most recreational hunter, bow or rifle. Just my 2 cents
I'm surprised no one has responded sooner to this question. You may have already found the answer, but just in case you haven't the answer to that would be mostly likely, yes. Here's why. The nose and mouth are connected to the animal's airways. If you put a bullet or an arrow through the lungs, the animal will sometimes cough or attempt to breathe to clear its rapidly filling lungs. When it does this, blood will spurt, drip, spew etc. from the nose and mouth. Also, after the shot and if you have to track your game by a blood trail, the blood will sometimes appear bright and frothy or bubbly, indicating a lung shot. Hope this helps you out in the future!
They drop if you hit the CNS no? They can still run for ages with a double lung shot. Besides which, you are not allowing for string jumpers.... Nearly all dear jump the string, even inside 20yards
I wouldn't really call it a "technology". Technology is something invented to solve a problem or improve a process. This is simply a visual cue to improve recognition of the vital area.
Having a 3-D deer on the inside and outside, from a plastic or rubberized molded injection decoy in front of your eyes for the lesson, that's technology if I've ever understood it! Creating better, ethical hunters and standards, based on these technology pieces here in this video, is awesome for the deers humane treatment and young hunters, having to track deer far or suffering of the animal due to bad shot placement and negating that by watching this video and sharing it with others instead of having to travel around to get this information is technology brother!
I've never seen a deer "drop" from an arrow or bolt. That is BS. They can die very quickly from a good shot but "drops" happen usually from a good rifle shoot.
I’ve dropped em. At least 5 instant drops and not spine shot. It’s like the’re Electrocuted on the spot and it’s very exciting. The first time I couldn’t believe my eyes...
Bob Gill I’ve done it with my excalibur using a swhacker to the base of the skull while the deer was under my stand lowering its head to browse. It dropped like a ton of bricks, motionless . The quickest kill shot I ever made....yes it can be done but I don’t recommend it for someone not familiar enough with their weapon. Not only do I practice on the ground but an archery hunter can greatly benefit from practicing from their stand at different distances /elevations in order to be confident enough to take epic shots with archery equipment. Crossbows are extremely accurate if you have a quality piece , a good scope and lots of confident practice time.
Haha! Exactly what I was thinking! Welcome to the world of hunting and fishing products! LOL They will try and market and push anything and everything.
Very nice demonstration and artwork on your lungs and heart but I would say that the lungs are too large and the heart is too large and the Heart needs to be moved forward to in and down to inches her actual animal organ
A deers lungs DO NOT collapse! That’s not what happens. That’s not why “they drop”. Among many other things, it is NEVER advisable to shoot through the scapula with an arrow. Good grief. No wonder the animals lost to archery equipment is so damn high. 👎👎👎👎👎👎
gary blessing....a deers lungs may or may not collapse,but the reason a deer "drops" is because they hear a noise they haven't heard and are simply reacting. Also may notice 9/10 a deer will run back the same way it came from because it has got to that point thus far without detecting danger and so they run back the way they think is safe. Its not always the case but more times than not.
KY KRaZY that’s not what you said in your video. I’m seriously not trying to be a jerk, but people look to videos like these to learn. When they are being taught things that aren’t true or a terrible idea (shooting through shoulder blades), I feel the need to respond. Lungs collapse when chest cavity pressure is lost. That’s not what an arrow or bullet does and that’s not how deer expire 99.9% of the time. Severed blood vessels fill the lung with blood and cause suffocation and death. Nothing to do with collapsed lungs. I will also disagree with your assessment of where deer go after being shot. Hundreds of deer tracked behind a dog tell me differently.
@@kykrazy6050 The term 'dropping' used here is not referring to when a deer "ducks" due to noise, but rather when a deer is shot and drops on the spot or very nearby.
For me it was a beautiful video. If you have more info to share like the lungs collapsing and they loose consciousness immediately, that's great stuff. I haven't hunted but if the opportunity comes i would like a quick death.
God gave us the .30-06 for a reason. Shoot them in the neck with a .30-06 a they drop in their tracks. It shuts off the electricity to the rest of the body (breathing, voluntary/involuntary muscles). If you take enough gun to the deer woods and limit yourself to ethical shots with said rifle, tracking wounded game becomes an unnecessary skill like wagon driving.
I bow hunt also but I love your theory. I take a neck/headshot whenever I can with a rifle. I remember watching hunting shows as a kid and they shot the deer and it always ran off and they were doing a big high five and getting all excited and I’m thinking they missed because it should have dropped! Then sometimes they would wait and track it the next morning. We can’t do that here because the coyotes would have eaten it overnight. It’s nice when they drop when you shoot.
Jw Custer, You shot a deer with unusual heart placement. The heart is usually located just as this gentleman shows it. Your deer may have been quartering more than you realized. I have done that a lot of times. I thought an animal was perfectly broadside and the entrance and exit wounds proved otherwise. I'm NOT saying what said is not the truth just passing on my experiences.
i have been deer hunting for 20+ years and these vids are still helpful thank you.
Excellent video, tree stand hunter here and the aim point was spot on. That shot placement will cut both lungs as the arrow passes through the deer. You probably looking at 50 yards for the deer to collaspe. Bring some corn to place on the ground where the deer expired and say a small prayer for the greatful harvest. Good hunting, aim small shoot small. Oh one thing I do to avoid the BUCK fever/shakes is to view the deer as a target in my yard, works great for me and my buddies.
Very helpful video. I am still practicing and learning for my first archery deer hunt and this video helps visualize the shot placement. I really appreciate people like you willing to take the time to better inform hunters. Thank you.
Probably the best hunting video ive ever seen... And ive watched alot over the years.
A very good advise you gave. Don't look at the deer or antlers, focus on the kill spot.. that will also help keeping you calm.
Thanks for the great video! Im bowhunting for the first time this season and after all the research and learning and practicing Ive done this is the best lesson Ive seen!
When I first started hunting, my dad used to get out old hunting magazines and an ink pen and make me mark where I would shoot that deer. Follow that front leg up has always been drilled in my head. Good video!
Good knowledge, I hope bow hunters here in Australia see this video, that's exactly how I place my shot and so far I have never lost a kill, I'm on my 274th samber deer and I have also shot over 300 other species of deer using the same method. It's great to see someone make a perfect video.
Cheers
Damn dude, your a savage! 200+ deer I'd say you got it figured out it seems! 👍
What would.be your maximum length? I shoot around 65ish pound
I'm getting prepared for the alpine park open so I can hopefully get my first sambar
I watched all of Brian Johnson's videos before I watched this one. I found his too complicated.
Your video was much easier to understand, thanks.
This is where I aim every time and I never missed a heart shot. ❤
Learned that marble tip from Steven Rinella also. Since I do mainly gun deer I know I'm confident with my rifle, scope and bullets I can shoot 1 moa groupings with my rifle so I aim for that spot and know that I have at most a 5in radius of a kill shot in case I make a bad shot. Great advice and video!
So much better advice on shot placement for gun or bow than the video of the old man drinking a beer. The vitals are at the same place in both seasons.
Thank you I am still learning even though I have had multiple kills . your the teacher I am the Student a thumbs up 4 U👍
Right at the top of the armpit and this accounts for them dropping a few inches on the release as well I've watched a few deer's hearts glow up like a water balloon filled with red paint
EXCELLENT ... !
Should be required viewing.
This was perfectly explained. Thank you.
Dam great video, I’m gonna share on my Facebook page
Why don’t you want to hit slightly forward and get more impact on the heart?
Wouldn’t that be better?
Wouldn’t that impact and pierce both lungs and the heart?
I have used this in my kills and it is 100% true always shoot for the rear of the heart. Iv done front shots,side shots and one rear side shot and have had clean kills.
Killed many deer 1/3 back... I guess I have a higher and further back point of aim, but I agree with the center point... also I aim for the EXIT hole
We cooked that deer after the filming and it was terrible. Tasted like plastic and someone broke a tooth on a marble...never again.
Next time spray some WD40 before you cook it .
Lmao 😅👍
Like I’ve been telling the kids, ‘above the elbow’
Use whatever front leg is in the most perpendicular angle to the ground. Follow that up with your site until your centered on the lower 1/3 of the deer, X marks the spot. Allowing for deer movement and all other variables this is by far your best aim point. You can never shoot a broadhead that's to sharp.
My hunters safety instructor explained this same concept back in 1985 but instead visualizing a dime instead of a marble
My instructor said imagine a tractor tyre.
I was a shitty shot. Still am. I put an arrow just under a mile over a buck once. Best shot I’ve managed so far...
Hello sir is that bolt you're holding a Pile Driver by Carbon Express. if so it's the best bolt out there by a mile no other bolt comes close to it for accuracy and penetration. I use 20" and 22" for my crossbows. Easton bloodline arrows 400 spine at 31" for my bows. I've tried other bolts and arrows over the years.. pile-driver and Easton bloodline only fodder I will ever use. I've learnt so much from your videos Keep up the good work your doing.
I have been aimed wrong for a long time. Lost many deer. After watching your video, I am ready to go bow hunting. Thank you very much, sir!
Genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The fella behind the camera shouldn't have any coffee before recording
A tripod goes a long way
Great advice
You are the best!!!
Good stuff!!
GOOD JOB
Dead on thats where i aim every time
Is the heart centered exactly in the middle of the deer or is it more to the left or right?
Christopher DiBona : Center. A human’s is in the center also. That thing about it being on the left is urban legend based on where the aorta connects.
Greg Jennings humans is on the left. Well more off centered left but it is not directly in the center.
Mr King: That depends on what you consider the heart. The heart muscle itself is generally biased to the left and canted to the right. But if you consider the whole heart complex, it is might as well be centered. Doesn't matter, really. If you put a bullet or broadhead through that general area on a deer, you have meat in the freezer.
Greg Jennings well I’m talking human, not 100% sure with deer to be honest but yah if you were to go for the center on a human (not recommended) you would hit heart although you wouldn’t hit the center of the heart.
that foam replica Wade is using is 100% accurate
Would have liked the model to show full leg. Not positive if the spot is up the back part of the leg to center of body or perhaps ????
Hey!!! That was a cool a sight pin and housing at 5:01 of the video!!! What is the name and the brand???
thanks it's custom
I just shot mine that was standing broadside right in front of leg and it went through caught heart and severed the wind pipe he didnt go more then 15 yrds
I would disagree about aiming that far forward because unless your a spot on shot, you might hit shoulder. I did that with a doe this year and sadly she ls still on trail camera a month after the shot with the arrow in her shoulder. I like to aim for center of lungs so if I miss back a few inches I hit gut, which still kills it faster than shoulder, but if I miss forward a few inches my shot is perfect.
If you shoot good fixed blade broadheads it will go through the shoulder and hit lungs
Good video. Wouldn't it be better to illustrated a dummy life-like deer. Most people can picture the dummy-deer in their memory better then the anatomy of the inside. Also in general its really a fist size target for most recreational hunter, bow or rifle. Just my 2 cents
Great. How do you like those arrows? That's what I'm shooting too. Pile drivers
Nobody would point back that far unless they wanna hit liver and guts
question. without harvesting the game, is it safe to say that you know you got a lung shot when the animal bleeds out nose and mouth?
I'm surprised no one has responded sooner to this question. You may have already found the answer, but just in case you haven't the answer to that would be mostly likely, yes. Here's why. The nose and mouth are connected to the animal's airways. If you put a bullet or an arrow through the lungs, the animal will sometimes cough or attempt to breathe to clear its rapidly filling lungs. When it does this, blood will spurt, drip, spew etc. from the nose and mouth. Also, after the shot and if you have to track your game by a blood trail, the blood will sometimes appear bright and frothy or bubbly, indicating a lung shot. Hope this helps you out in the future!
Bubbles in blood tell all
They drop if you hit the CNS no? They can still run for ages with a double lung shot. Besides which, you are not allowing for string jumpers.... Nearly all dear jump the string, even inside 20yards
I wouldn't really call it a "technology". Technology is something invented to solve a problem or improve a process. This is simply a visual cue to improve recognition of the vital area.
Having a 3-D deer on the inside and outside, from a plastic or rubberized molded injection decoy in front of your eyes for the lesson, that's technology if I've ever understood it! Creating better, ethical hunters and standards, based on these technology pieces here in this video, is awesome for the deers humane treatment and young hunters, having to track deer far or suffering of the animal due to bad shot placement and negating that by watching this video and sharing it with others instead of having to travel around to get this information is technology brother!
Is this same information also applicable to rifle hunting?
Rifle, high shoulder. Drops them straight down.
I eat the heart so I try not to hit the heart.
Likewise i also enjoy the liver
I've never seen a deer "drop" from an arrow or bolt. That is BS. They can die very quickly from a good shot but "drops" happen usually from a good rifle shoot.
I’ve dropped em.
At least 5 instant drops and not spine shot.
It’s like the’re Electrocuted on the spot and it’s very exciting. The first time I couldn’t believe my eyes...
Bob Gill
I’ve done it with my excalibur using a swhacker to the base of the skull while the deer was under my stand lowering its head to browse.
It dropped like a ton of bricks, motionless .
The quickest kill shot I ever made....yes it can be done but I don’t recommend it for someone not familiar enough with their weapon.
Not only do I practice on the ground but an archery hunter can greatly benefit from practicing from their stand at different distances /elevations in order to be confident enough to take epic shots with archery equipment.
Crossbows are extremely accurate if you have a quality piece , a good scope and lots of confident practice time.
My brother shot a deer in the heart and it dropped on the spot
He says "Center Kill Technology" and "Aimpoint" like he owns trademarks, patents, and a physical product. lol
Haha! Exactly what I was thinking! Welcome to the world of hunting and fishing products! LOL They will try and market and push anything and everything.
I wrote the script so you would remember, I see it worked:)
Very nice demonstration and artwork on your lungs and heart but I would say that the lungs are too large and the heart is too large and the Heart needs to be moved forward to in and down to inches her actual animal organ
A deers lungs DO NOT collapse! That’s not what happens. That’s not why “they drop”. Among many other things, it is NEVER advisable to shoot through the scapula with an arrow. Good grief. No wonder the animals lost to archery equipment is so damn high. 👎👎👎👎👎👎
gary blessing....a deers lungs may or may not collapse,but the reason a deer "drops" is because they hear a noise they haven't heard and are simply reacting. Also may notice 9/10 a deer will run back the same way it came from because it has got to that point thus far without detecting danger and so they run back the way they think is safe. Its not always the case but more times than not.
KY KRaZY that’s not what you said in your video. I’m seriously not trying to be a jerk, but people look to videos like these to learn. When they are being taught things that aren’t true or a terrible idea (shooting through shoulder blades), I feel the need to respond. Lungs collapse when chest cavity pressure is lost. That’s not what an arrow or bullet does and that’s not how deer expire 99.9% of the time. Severed blood vessels fill the lung with blood and cause suffocation and death. Nothing to do with collapsed lungs. I will also disagree with your assessment of where deer go after being shot. Hundreds of deer tracked behind a dog tell me differently.
@@kykrazy6050 The term 'dropping' used here is not referring to when a deer "ducks" due to noise, but rather when a deer is shot and drops on the spot or very nearby.
Most 3D decoys do a terrible job of teach the kill zone.
For me it was a beautiful video. If you have more info to share like the lungs collapsing and they loose consciousness immediately, that's great stuff. I haven't hunted but if the opportunity comes i would like a quick death.
Aim small, miss small concept.
What about the neck shoot
We get it,,,we get it, shoot it where you could have said in about 30 seconds and avoid the other areas.
God gave us the .30-06 for a reason. Shoot them in the neck with a .30-06 a they drop in their tracks. It shuts off the electricity to the rest of the body (breathing, voluntary/involuntary muscles). If you take enough gun to the deer woods and limit yourself to ethical shots with said rifle, tracking wounded game becomes an unnecessary skill like wagon driving.
JAY MARTIN well some people do both bow and gun hunting
I bow hunt also but I love your theory. I take a neck/headshot whenever I can with a rifle. I remember watching hunting shows as a kid and they shot the deer and it always ran off and they were doing a big high five and getting all excited and I’m thinking they missed because it should have dropped! Then sometimes they would wait and track it the next morning. We can’t do that here because the coyotes would have eaten it overnight. It’s nice when they drop when you shoot.
I received a social security check waiting on this video to end
Where is the best place to kill a deer. I would say as close to the pickup as possible.
Jw Custer,
You shot a deer with unusual heart placement. The heart is usually located just as this gentleman shows it. Your deer may have been quartering more than you realized. I have done that a lot of times. I thought an animal was perfectly broadside and the entrance and exit wounds proved otherwise. I'm NOT saying what said is not the truth just passing on my experiences.
U still shooting too far back
The perfect kill shot is base of the skull back of the head. Idk what he’s talking about
William Hollman ....if that’s where you aim with archery equipment, please stay out of the woods.