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That recording came from those little speakers?! Playback was near perfect through my system. Impressive. These are definitely noteworthy and an item that would've slipped by me without your review. Thanks. That demo was remarkable.
I've owned these for a week now, and while I do love them: with my partnering equipment (fairly neutral Hegel amp) and in my room, they are very bright and sibilant. Brighter than either pair of Klipsch speakers I also own. Luckily, they take EQ very well and with a gradual 2db roll-off from 5.5khz to 16khz, and a small bump added for punch around 80hz, they are AMAZING, dynamic, and fun speakers!
I love these reviews and sound samples. To my ear, the Beta 7 outperforms the TAD at a fraction of the price. It is more open and natural sounding. The TAD sounds slightly constricted and compressed by comparison.
Hey, entry-level Magnepans are said to be the same in that, yeah, they are inexpensive BUT, you'd best have some quality amplification to get them to sound good. Magnepan even used to have that caveat on their webpage...maybe they still do.
Great review as always! Would love for you to review the Audio Craftsman Laval. Question on why you sold the Knight 1? I thought you liked them better than the R3 Meta. Thanks again for all the great reviews.
Hmm. I dunno. Sounded slow to me -- could be UA-cam, but other speakers you've demoed not a million miles different in price sounded more nimble. Just one man's opinion...
@@TharbamarThe main reason I ask is because I already have Lintons and was curious if I would be gaining or subtracting something by going with the Beta 7's. Many thanks
@@mhelenesephoto Hi main reason I don’t answer specifically is I’m not a fan of Linton Heritage sound, it’s warm but lacks the richness and articulation of the real music. Low level listening (45-50db) is also a bit dark and lifeless when I had them, only advantage over Beta 7 is benefit of 3 way design but as always audio is very subjective. Thanks
Haha, I do remember your review from a couple of years ago, but I had already had them by the time you published it. With certain songs it does sound like something is missing with the Lintons but I can't tell what. Maybe some mid bass, emotion/ richness, perhaps the Betas might be the missing link.
@@Tharbamarwould you put the Beta sound in the warm grouping too. I'm not sure if rich and warm are similar ways of describing sound.thank you for your insight.
I have 12 sets of speakers that say otherwise Borresen x1 Source point 10’s Monitor audio silver 100 7g Kef R7 meta Kef ls 50 meta Dayton opal 1 Sonus faber lumina ll amator Just to name a few !!
Interesting. I find all these hyped up speakers significantly inferior to Magnepan LRS that competes in the ultra high end. Hoping these speakers doesn't disappoint like countless others much more expensive in comparison to the LRS (+). Admitedly the amp you need for the LRS needs to be a high end specced one so while it could be cheap the full system cost could easily reach around usd 10k, its that good to scale that way.
You're saying my amps are not good enough for LRS+ ? FYI, I've been there 10 years ago with higher priced Maggies. They are ok for me, most panels are power hungry yet when pushed with high power amps (JC1 Mono Amps each supply by dedicated 20A power line) start distorting at high SPL.
@@Tharbamar I didn’t say that. What I said was missing the Maggies is not a good thing. You have a different opinion, many audiophiles I know with more experience than me and yourself as well have a very high opinion of them even if their preference is different. For you to say they are just ok is a an unusual take, maybe it’s your room? They are closer to the absolute sound than most speakers and highly transparent. Listen to a piano in real life then compare them to smaller similar priced box speakers and a well set up Maggie the difference is obvious. But it’s a preference thing boxes have their advantages. Not many like the absolute sound or intimately familiar with live music. I grew up with live music and I got to say even with the MBLs, Raidhos, Avant-garde crazy expensive home set ups they still don’t compare to live in so many ways. They don’t get loud but higher end models the 3.7 and higher you could go to reasonable levels without signs of distortion. They also need lots of space, a real downer. I don’t listen to rock at their ideal sound levels which is too loud nor do I listen to much hip hop electronic bass heavy music so that’s my bias.
To each of own, they’re ok for me with my type of music (Hard Rock, Blues, Modern Music and Some Orchestra) they never give me satisfaction, I used to produce live performances they don’t come remotely to that experience. Thanks
@@Tharbamar I agree with you. They don’t come close no system does even cost no object ones. Great for systems that move you, that’s what music is all about. Cheers.
The time of tight two-way shelfbooks has already passed (they will always be like a short blanket). Now the trend is for 100-150 liter three-way speakers with decent sensitivity. Adult sound lives in adult speakers.
I entirely agree with this. Abandon book shelf speakers altogether. A competently made 3 way tower will get you further than an "expertly" made 2 way for roughly same money, or even more money. Me and my dad have done all the testing and listening required to reach this conclusion.
@@twenty4seven368 Dynaudio Special 40 ($3400) is beaten badly by Focal Chorus 826W ($2250) from 10 years before. Yes the Special 40 does few things better, but the overall performance and ability to present a full representation of a song is where the Focal is far beyond the Special 40. There's almost no reason to ever pick bookshelves over floorstanders - imo.
Give me towers! Bookshelves are popular because industry has been successful telling us it’s all good. But in the end it’s all down to cost, shipping, and inventory size.
I totally disagree. I use the beta 7 with Fosi V3 monos paired with my SMSL SU-10. The V3s sound excellent and clean with sweet midrange vocals. I don't know why you reviewers keep doing this, tryna hype ya expensive equipments and down play affordable solid products; claiming they sound harsh or thin. Your bright may not be my bright. The V3s are excellent with the Beta 7.
He praised Quad S2's.I bought them and they were tottaly crap with my system!So it is up to the equipment and the taste of the person what is good and bad in this hoby!
Never ask you to agree and I said "I started off with Class D Amps like iCE power 500 watts mono blocks as well as entry level budget soon to be review Fosi mono V3 those Class D Amps and I wasn't really big fan of it the way they sound because upper range of frequencies sound a bit thin paring with Schiit Audio Freya plus tube balanced preamplifier stage pairing with those Class D amps doesn't have good Synergy in my system with this Beta 7" Anything that float your boat is not my business I stated unbiased experience, nothing more nothing less.
@@Tharbamar Yes sir! You are great Tharbamar don't get me wrong!I had many things i did not like in this hoby!I keep looking for what i like that's it...
Hi, your opinion is crucial for me when I buy something, choosing between Musician Draco and Denafrips ares II? Which is better, I listen to jazz and I have Wharfedale evo 1 speakers. Thank you very much. I wish you good luck and good health
hello Tharbamar, I need your advice, I am interested in buying speakers and I have seen the MUSICIAN Knight I, Quad s2 and B & W 706 2, which one do you stay with specifically in sound quality clarity transpared? I look forward to your help, thank you and greetings
I had the Quad S2 before and I found it sibilant. Jay's Iyagi review also mentioned this. If you want ribbon or AMT tweeter, I'd get the Elac Carina over the Quad. Never heard the Knight 1 or 706 S2.
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Another great review. Thanks for sharing.
You bet!
That recording came from those little speakers?! Playback was near perfect through my system. Impressive. These are definitely noteworthy and an item that would've slipped by me without your review. Thanks. That demo was remarkable.
I've owned these for a week now, and while I do love them: with my partnering equipment (fairly neutral Hegel amp) and in my room, they are very bright and sibilant. Brighter than either pair of Klipsch speakers I also own. Luckily, they take EQ very well and with a gradual 2db roll-off from 5.5khz to 16khz, and a small bump added for punch around 80hz, they are AMAZING, dynamic, and fun speakers!
Thanks for sharing your experience.
That intro spooked me brother 👻 lovely review thank you very much!
Glad you enjoyed it
I'd like to see the crossover network in these speakers.
I love these reviews and sound samples. To my ear, the Beta 7 outperforms the TAD at a fraction of the price. It is more open and natural sounding. The TAD sounds slightly constricted and compressed by comparison.
Beautiful 🤩 speakers
Thanks. I had the Mk1 Musishare and thought it a good one and a great bargain.
Good to hear!
Hey, entry-level Magnepans are said to be the same in that, yeah, they are inexpensive BUT, you'd best have some quality amplification to get them to sound good. Magnepan even used to have that caveat on their webpage...maybe they still do.
Great review as always! Would love for you to review the Audio Craftsman Laval. Question on why you sold the Knight 1? I thought you liked them better than the R3 Meta. Thanks again for all the great reviews.
I was not using enough to keep them, thanks
THANKS
I like your JBL speakers
The A8 sounds consistently thin and sibilant in your videos. Normally your music clips are richer and smoother.
I was thinking the same thing
Thank you for this review offering.
Between this speaker and the MusicianNight One. Which one do you think performs better?
For the money Beta 7 great choice, Knight 1 is better in separation with more revealing. Thanks
How does it sompare to polk r200?
Hmm. I dunno. Sounded slow to me -- could be UA-cam, but other speakers you've demoed not a million miles different in price sounded more nimble. Just one man's opinion...
Bro...can you give the difference between studio and conventional speaker such as hall and bedroom
I currently own Klipsch RP-600m speakers. How would these compare in terms of low volume listening (65db)?
Beta 7 will sound deeper, please remember paring component is the key, thanks
@@Tharbamar thank you. My amplifier is a Hegel H95, so pretty neutral and boring. Might be a great match for this warm speaker.
It should pair nicely.,
Nice review... Can you tell me these are for the bass and midrange next to gallon TL voyager or the wharfedale lintons. Thank you!
To each of own but for the money Beta 7 is no brainer for me, thanks
@@TharbamarThe main reason I ask is because I already have Lintons and was curious if I would be gaining or subtracting something by going with the Beta 7's. Many thanks
@@mhelenesephoto Hi main reason I don’t answer specifically is I’m not a fan of Linton Heritage sound, it’s warm but lacks the richness and articulation of the real music.
Low level listening (45-50db) is also a bit dark and lifeless when I had them, only advantage over Beta 7 is benefit of 3 way design but as always audio is very subjective. Thanks
Haha, I do remember your review from a couple of years ago, but I had already had them by the time you published it. With certain songs it does sound like something is missing with the Lintons but I can't tell what. Maybe some mid bass, emotion/ richness, perhaps the Betas might be the missing link.
@@Tharbamarwould you put the Beta sound in the warm grouping too. I'm not sure if rich and warm are similar ways of describing sound.thank you for your insight.
did you mean Starke (not Iron Man / Tony Stark)
Yep, I hate auto correction.
Thanks for catching.
I have 12 sets of speakers that say otherwise
Borresen x1
Source point 10’s
Monitor audio silver 100 7g
Kef R7 meta
Kef ls 50 meta
Dayton opal 1
Sonus faber lumina ll amator
Just to name a few !!
Hello. Do these sound better with the grills on or off? Thanks!
It will be a little better without the grill on.
If they were real wood then id be very interested
Most speaker do not come with real wood at any price point mostly just wood veneer.
How do you compare these speakers to BW606s2?
More forgiving and easier to listen, thanks
Interesting. I find all these hyped up speakers significantly inferior to Magnepan LRS that competes in the ultra high end. Hoping these speakers doesn't disappoint like countless others much more expensive in comparison to the LRS (+). Admitedly the amp you need for the LRS needs to be a high end specced one so while it could be cheap the full system cost could easily reach around usd 10k, its that good to scale that way.
You're saying my amps are not good enough for LRS+ ? FYI, I've been there 10 years ago with higher priced Maggies. They are ok for me, most panels are power hungry yet when pushed with high power amps (JC1 Mono Amps each supply by dedicated 20A power line) start distorting at high SPL.
@@Tharbamar I didn’t say that. What I said was missing the Maggies is not a good thing. You have a different opinion, many audiophiles I know with more experience than me and yourself as well have a very high opinion of them even if their preference is different. For you to say they are just ok is a an unusual take, maybe it’s your room? They are closer to the absolute sound than most speakers and highly transparent. Listen to a piano in real life then compare them to smaller similar priced box speakers and a well set up Maggie the difference is obvious. But it’s a preference thing boxes have their advantages. Not many like the absolute sound or intimately familiar with live music. I grew up with live music and I got to say even with the MBLs, Raidhos, Avant-garde crazy expensive home set ups they still don’t compare to live in so many ways. They don’t get loud but higher end models the 3.7 and higher you could go to reasonable levels without signs of distortion. They also need lots of space, a real downer. I don’t listen to rock at their ideal sound levels which is too loud nor do I listen to much hip hop electronic bass heavy music so that’s my bias.
To each of own, they’re ok for me with my type of music (Hard Rock, Blues, Modern Music and Some Orchestra) they never give me satisfaction, I used to produce live performances they don’t come remotely to that experience. Thanks
@@Tharbamar I agree with you. They don’t come close no system does even cost no object ones. Great for systems that move you, that’s what music is all about. Cheers.
The time of tight two-way shelfbooks has already passed (they will always be like a short blanket). Now the trend is for 100-150 liter three-way speakers with decent sensitivity. Adult sound lives in adult speakers.
I entirely agree with this. Abandon book shelf speakers altogether. A competently made 3 way tower will get you further than an "expertly" made 2 way for roughly same money, or even more money. Me and my dad have done all the testing and listening required to reach this conclusion.
Any examples?
@@twenty4seven368 Dynaudio Special 40 ($3400) is beaten badly by Focal Chorus 826W ($2250) from 10 years before.
Yes the Special 40 does few things better, but the overall performance and ability to present a full representation of a song is where the Focal is far beyond the Special 40. There's almost no reason to ever pick bookshelves over floorstanders - imo.
If money and space were no issue.
Give me towers! Bookshelves are popular because industry has been successful telling us it’s all good. But in the end it’s all down to cost, shipping, and inventory size.
I totally disagree. I use the beta 7 with Fosi V3 monos paired with my SMSL SU-10. The V3s sound excellent and clean with sweet midrange vocals. I don't know why you reviewers keep doing this, tryna hype ya expensive equipments and down play affordable solid products; claiming they sound harsh or thin. Your bright may not be my bright. The V3s are excellent with the Beta 7.
He praised Quad S2's.I bought them and they were tottaly crap with my system!So it is up to the equipment and the taste of the person what is good and bad in this hoby!
@@beslemeto It's as simple as that.
Never ask you to agree and I said "I started off with Class D Amps like iCE power 500 watts mono blocks as well as entry level budget soon to be review Fosi mono V3 those Class D Amps and I wasn't really big fan of it the way they sound because upper range of frequencies sound a bit thin paring with Schiit Audio Freya plus tube balanced preamplifier stage pairing with those Class D amps doesn't have good Synergy in my system with this Beta 7"
Anything that float your boat is not my business I stated unbiased experience, nothing more nothing less.
Everything in audio is not only based on personal taste, major differences are based on paring components and most importantly your room.
@@Tharbamar Yes sir! You are great Tharbamar don't get me wrong!I had many things i did not like in this hoby!I keep looking for what i like that's it...
I have these speakers and they are just ok !! Nothing special
What amp are you using it with?
HIFI rose Rs520
Advanced Paris hybrid A12 classic a monster amp
Yamaha As3200 also a monster amp
BTW I don't see any monster amp is your list, sound quality is more to do with Synergy, try with 300B Tube Amp or Accuphase or Luxman is SS Amps.
Speaker sounds good. But that harmonica player on the track was terrible. Feels like the band is not made up of professionals.
AI
Hi, your opinion is crucial for me when I buy something, choosing between Musician Draco and Denafrips ares II? Which is better, I listen to jazz and I have Wharfedale evo 1 speakers. Thank you very much. I wish you good luck and good health
hello Tharbamar, I need your advice, I am interested in buying speakers and I have seen the MUSICIAN Knight I, Quad s2 and B & W 706 2, which one do you stay with specifically in sound quality clarity transpared? I look forward to your help, thank you and greetings
Just anecdotally, I've seen more folks loving the Quad S2 than the BW.
Also check out the Amphion Argon 1, Acoustic Energy AE1 MKiii.
I heard the quad S2 is a phenomenal speaker
I had the Quad S2 before and I found it sibilant. Jay's Iyagi review also mentioned this. If you want ribbon or AMT tweeter, I'd get the Elac Carina over the Quad. Never heard the Knight 1 or 706 S2.
@Luis-eh1cf ,used 705 S2 is bargain to be had in that price range, thanks
@@Tharbamar And the Musician Knight? Is it better? I say this for clarity and transparency.
Awesome review! Thanks for sharing.