Is the Suzuki GSX-8R The MOST VERSATILE Sportbike To Date?
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Suzuki jumps into the parallel-twin, middleweight sportbike competition with its GSX-8R. Take everything we love about the S model, add a more protective fairing to break the wind, keep the same awesome engine, and you end up with perhaps Suzuki’s most versatile sportbike.
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One of the best looking bikes I've seen in a while. Affordable (relatively speaking), power but not superbike useless, and nice ergos,, well done Suzuki, well done.
Dumb q, why spend 10k approx on this vs a ninja 400 at 1/2 approx. Similar riding positions, similar top speeds, etc. I dont understand. Help me understand.
@@user-fi4qj1fj9o Not sure, haven't rode either. But, knowing what I know after a few years and bikes that 400 will feel glacially slow after a season or 2 and a 400 is a hard sell on the used market. The 8R looks like a nice balance of possibly beginner level control but room to grow as well.
@@user-fi4qj1fj9o - 8R claimed, 81.8 hp @ 8500rpm/ 57.5 lb.ft torque @ 6800rpm.
N400 47.5 hp/44 bhp @ 10k rpm / 28 lb.ft torque @ 8k rpm.
Big difference depending on your desires. I own a N400 and love it. 8R easily wheelies and is faster yet power to weight for a new rider - the N400 is a better option.
8R has better brakes / supension; 270 degree gives it a similar V-twin rumble. / more tech etc...
I'm with ya on price too (esp used/new 400 prices and cheaper insurance/better mpg.
I won't be letting my 400 go anytime soon. I also have an 800 (Honda Interceptor sport-tourer) which I'm eventually going to sell.
@@ninji5226 How so. Literal same accel and top speeds within a few mph. WHich is why im asking. Also the 250;s, 300;s, and 400;s sell for near new prices used. Bought my 2018 for 5400new in 18, sold it in 22 for 4500.
@@user-fi4qj1fj9o I would have to say ride them both, smaller bikes do have more power in the same package than years past. But numbers don't always tell the whole story, I can't imagine a 400 would feel the same as an 800 though. Then again I went from a 400 80's bike to a 90's 600 bandit, to my current 04 FZ1 liter bike so it's all relative. Numbers lie but your butt Dyno don't.
Dude! Suzuki is killing it lately! I love their designs and their approach now. Good on ya Suzuki and keep em coming!
It's actually always how they roll like they'll be last to make a move like change the looks of their bike designs or whatever but ngl for a while i thought Suzuki stopped caring about their motorcycles 😂😂 an only focuses on their cars
What country do you live in that Suzuki still sells cars?
@@M_Duhamel17 India gang, India
@@M_Duhamel17 You can still by new in Germany as well.
@@M_Duhamel17Suzuki only sell their Cars in Europe, south Asia and japan.
The thing with the saved dashboard is a good point any other review missed so far
Looks well suited to be a sport tourer rather than an out and out track bike….would consider one actually. But Suzuki would probably release a sports touring version once I’ve bought one the way my luck usually goes…😅
Saw one with hard cases!
@@jordanjoestar8839ooooooh nice!
They have released the V Storm 800 with the same engine. You should check it out
I just rode 280-ish miles on my GSX-8R today, and I could do more. This tall (6'-2") old guy's body is really liking the ergos of this machine. Nice work Suzuki.
That’s good to hear. I’m about your height and was wondering. The bars seem very close to the rider.
@@zacharyhazard6646 I have been riding super sport machines for 30 years. Yeah. The bars being up higher and closer is a little weird to me. It will just tike some time for me to adjust to. It will work out just fine though.
Suzuki used to be the king back in early 2000’s good to see them making some good products. This is really what a lot of riders want.
Really? Cheap components, a shitty engine, and a fake sports bike look?
@@alexmazificationI’m just getting into the technical aspect of motorcycles (loved em since I was a kid) so would you mind sharing more info or links that provide more detail on the issues you speak of? Also, what is a good street sport bike iyo?
@@chrisdrummond380I wouldn't say there are any issue. I'm sure it's a reliable bike and it's fine for what it is. But Suzuki used to make real sports bikes and I'm surprised products like this are what the riders want, unless they are beginners and they are looking for their first bike. The parallel twin is a cheap engine to manufacture and that's the reason it is on so many bikes now, but it's also a boring engine. For real sports bikes I mean bikes like the GSX-R 600, 750 and 1000. It can be argued that a bike like the GXX-8R is better on the street than those bike, but it's just another segment. Suzuki try to pass this a a supersport (at least on their Italian website) but it's really a somewhat sporty street bike. It also cost 9700 € that considering the engine, brakes, and general tech on the bike seems a bit excessive, considering Honda is selling the CBR 600 RR for 2k more. If you like the bike, or this type of bikes, good for you though, I'm just not the target user for this and it's sad that Suzuki stopped producing sport bikes like before.
@@alexmazification suzuki makes the best engines, bro
@@7shpongle I don't doubt that, the "shitty" was for the parallel twin, I really don't like that type of engine
Love that Silver with red wheels. They all look good though, lets be honest!!
As an ex Australian Factory backed Suzuki Superbike racer I might be a little biased. However, to see some fresh ideas and use of technology from a brand that mostly sticks to evolution, I think these new offerings are a step in the right direction. 👍😎🇦🇺
Aussie Aussie Aussie KTM Queensland man here. G day.
@@C.A.MARSUPIAL-ys6tl How’s life up north? Which part are you from ? I’m in Melbourne. Obviously close to PI.
@@marcusgeorge1825 near Brisbane Wellington point. Originally from Kilsyth Melbourne I owned the very first Elsinore 125 cr Honda there. Those were the days. Keep well.👍
@@C.A.MARSUPIAL-ys6tl Same to you. Cheers. 👍
Yes and evry day ridable which is the key. A GSXR 600 R is actually slower around town unless you sit in 1st gear 100% of the time.
I love this in yellow! Hopefully we get this color in Canada
Agree great colour.😊
We do.
This thing looks great in that yellow. Good job Suzuki.
Well presented.... short n sweet.... such reviews are what's needed . Great job
Glad to see Suzuki stepping it up. They’ve always made great bikes, change comes slow but it’s a positive.
I’m glad they came out with an R version. This bike is on my list for my next bike.
Cool yellow/black combination of this twin GSX8R. Thanks for the review.
BTW Blake - after reading your articles in printed CW for years, it is nice to see your face and hear your voice!!
Very interesting review in just a few minutes. Much better than those who drone on and on. Just wish we got the yellow model in the UK!
Really nice looking bike, I'll say that for free. Like how slim it is, and the colors and fairing shape look great
You know, I’ve never liked yellow. Always hated it.
But I would own this bike in yellow. Gorgeous.
Excellent review. Yamaha made the CP2 and it is now featured in four of their bikes, because it is a gem. Well done Suzuki, they see that specs mean less and character means more. This is a great era for motorbikes and riders.
This bike is honestly the only real competition for the new Triumph Daytona 660, at least here in the US. The 2024 Ninja 650 can be ignored as its engine hasn't seen any improvements in years. The 2024 R7 is still super track oriented with its lack of rider aids, dated electronics, and aggressive riders triangle. The updated 2024 CBR650R apparently isn't coming to the US (apparently they're just relaunching the 2023 version with new graphics/colors), and even if it was, it'd probably be close to $2k more. Lastly, the RS660 is out of the price range of most folks just looking for a normal sporty middleweight bike, as its OTD price alone is nearly around $3-4k more than the GSX-8R and Daytona 660, not to mention the lack of dealerships, high insurance costs, and high maintenance prices.
Wait the updated CBR650R is not coming to the US? I was actually going to purchase one this year, ugh what a shame.
@@racefeen22p apparently not, according to Honda themselves. The US division of Honda posted one of their news articles back in late January I think that listed all the updated bikes coming to the US for 2024. According to the list, the only sport bikes being touched are the CB/CBR1000's and the CBR600, and just with new paints. No news at all on the CB/CBR650, CB/CBR500, or CB/CBR300, as well as all of the Rebels. While every other manufacturer has had their 2024 lineup mostly available since around mid Jan, its almost March and Honda has given no news for over half of their bikes.
@AdeptusAmogus I owned a 2020 cbr650r and the bike was perfect. Honestly if it just had better aftermarket support and wasn't red I would still have it. This class of bike is just perfect for the every season, any day rider. I toured on my 650, worth every penny
@@Villani_AV I just picked up a nearly brand new, low mileage, unmolested Ninja 650 for cheap last week. Still has 36 months worth of the KPP warranty on it. The way I ride, if I bought anything with more power, I'd be dead already lmao. But in all honesty, aside from the sound (which i already have the yoshi exhaust on order) it's been perfect for me.
Agree and the 8R has 10 more Nm of torque available lower than the "Daytona" so will be snappier for everyday riding. The Daytona may pull away at 12,000 rpm on a track but the rated horse power will be useless for normal riding. Similar for the CBR650R. The R7 has aggressive but also 10 less Bhp and Nm so will be slower on and off the track. Also while the GSX spec is basic it does track well on corners and feels lighter than it is. Looks are subjective, I like the Honda, but would not buy one. Have not seen the 8R yet.
Very nice review. I like the idea that manufacturers are finally building street bikes with some race bike technology instead mostly race bikes for the street. I see too many videos of liter bike riders who have no business on anything like a race bike, and it often doesn't turn out well.
I'm really considering this thing looks awesome
That yellow is killer 👍
1:41 Wow the HANDLE BAR looked great.
Did you have an issues with the QS in regards to upshifts? Any hesitation or delay's?
I have an 8S. The torque encourages short shifting up and late shifting down which is smooth as butter. Literally as easy as using the clutch. hardly feel it. Push hard and the up shift will be more jumpy. Change up or down while holding constant revs and it is rough, use the clutch. Aggressive down changes are short on the auto-blip rev matching but work safely with the slipper clutch. SO net net a couple of weak points but works promptly. Some say you can not hammer down two cogs quickly from speed and the box does not rev match quickly. Probably correct.
Should make a V twin again, I had the TL1000 , great bike
I hope someday there will be an 1100R
The blue one looks smart. Half thinking of getting one, do a few inlet and exhaust mods, early reports indicate great power gains....would surprise a lot of people on track and in the twisties.
Half thinking about Nick? You’re far too important to be seen completely thinking of getting one? “Early indications” btw. “Gains” even worse by the way. Yikes bro 😬
@@English_MoFo
@@English_MoFo
What?
@@English_MoFoThat makes no sense whatsoever
@@paulconnell1309 Why have you directed that at me?
Love my 2021 GSXS750AZ but damn color scheme here makes me want the 2024!
Love that bike too. Dam it is good and underrated. Bought the GSX S8 though. A bit snappier around town without having to use the gear box as hard. More relaxing and quick. Nice dash, quick shifter. You would beat me over 100kph though. But not till then.
Another masterpiece after the GSXR750. Beautiful! ❤
The middleweight do it all sport bike will always be one of the best options. The cbr650, this, ninja 650, zx4r, r7, etc are just perfect for off track riding
This bike will look absolutely smashing in red. Hope Suzuki launches a red one as well
Beautiful!
My man learned how to ride a twin on the track. Yup, it’s all about momentum and mid range torque. Way different than an inline four that would have required a downshift on those corners.
I am not realy a modern bike man but i do think Suzuki are coming up with some great styling designs especially with the Katana
Suzuki nailed it with the 8R. Nice all-around bike at an affordable price. Let’s be real, the average person will never use 17 clicks of compression and rebound. $20,000 bikes are out of reach for many people. This bike will be a hit! Great review.
Agree, but give me a couple of clicks option on the suspension.
I'm looking forward to the dyno run
About 75 bhp at the rear wheel
Some Simple upgrades to the Brakes (pads) and suspension (oil weight or progressive springs) and 💥BOOM, a top shelf Steed at a Great price point. 👍
Although it not adjustable, I didn’t see the suspension or the brakes as being particularly weak. This bike isn’t really ever gong to be a specialist track machine.
@@Steve-motorcycles Maybe for a C/B rider. Certainly not an A group rider.
@@davidyaroch6622 Agreed. There are many better beginner bikes, be it on road or track to consider
@@Steve-motorcycles The brakes are better than the label would indicate. Actually they are developing a class for it in the UK. They will race for sure. Maybe a few changes though....
@@Steve-motorcycles Not a beginner bike in my view. too much torque.
Suzuki Gsx 8r and aprilia rs 660 for this year ❤
Its a great looking bike.
In the minutes watching this video, I’ve already outgrown this motorcycle
Nice. I wonder how much insurance is for these?
Great looking bike, too bad suspension isn't adjustable though. That is an essential for anyone intermediate level and above.
I wish that yellow was available to buy in the UK! 😢
Seriously, it's not?? 😮
@@snoopycharlie8718 maybe if we can get enough people nagging Suzuki UK then they'll change their position 🤔
@@UpsideDownFork Blue looks lovely but the yellow is such a classic for Suzuki! Makes it stand out as unique compared to Blue Yamaha, Red Honda, Green Kawasaki, Orange KTM and so on.
Totally agree!@@snoopycharlie8718
Don’t forget that when the motor was patented it had a supercharger on it, I think we should expect that.
Yeh I would like to see the full 800 range,. Hate this dribbling models out. I have an 8S. Would ahve preferred the 8R.
@@paulconnell1309 I agree. A few years ago I bought a 2018 cb650f with inadequate conventional forks on it. I could feel them bend. That was my major complaint and I had plans to swap to a set of GSXR forks. The next year they released the R version with sport bike USD adjustable damping forks and I felt like an idiot for buying mine.
I just talked about this bike today. Interesting bike.
Can you tell me what cc they the engine is. Thanks.
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@@larrynorsworthy8582 thanks. 👍
Cool helmet Nakagami
I love anythings in Yellow and Black... 😂
Still waiting for an updated GSXS 1000 with the lasted GSR MOTOR IN IT TO REPLACE MY 2016 !!!!!!!!😅😊😂
kawi gang all day but those look pretty sick!
She looks good though, digging it!
Nice looking bike! Make one with the gsxr1000 engine and I’d buy one
Ah, the GSXR1000R?
Thank god ive got some decent bikes in the shed 😂..
2:25 There's Auto, White, and Black.
A good looking bike.
Had me at smooth. Finally, a smooth running twin. Too bad they put ugly little headlights on it.
Yes
Speedo set to KPH not MPH to be more "photogenic" i suppose
Seems all the super sports are following the upright ergonomics now.
DEI on two wheels ??
man these prices are high for what you are getting. Back then you could get a brand new GSX-R 1000 for about that price. now the parts look chinisium.
nice helmet dude
How is this bike compared to Suzuki its own GSX-R750 with relatively same displacement
Range, mpg?
Finally. A really world question. I ask it with every review I read without consistant response. Did you get a useful answer?
Fuel capacity?
@@michaelripplinger21693.7 gallon
Yellow is not available in Europe
We need a new 1000R 😅
How much would it cost to have you guys give a glowing review of my Suzuki 250? I want to convince this girl I’m talking to that my bike is more than a commuter. You can even use the same script!
A spiritual successor to the original Honda VFR750?
Not at all. These new Yam/Kaw/Honda/Suzuki parallel twin bikes with 60-80hp are no match compared to the refined strait cut gear driven V4 that was pure magic. Different sound, torque curve, top RPMs. VFR feels amazing. These twins feel like beginner bikes.
Is the Suzuki GSX-8R Replacing the GSX-R600 and GSX-R750?
Super X 10!
The tail light/rear fender set-up sucks, otherwise nice bike!
No room for the bike's HP, a zero to 60 time, a quarter mile ET and terminal speed, no braking distance from 60mph and 100 mph, no time to 80, to 100, to 120, no top speed in the Half Mile, no times for roll-on from 40 to 60 and 60 to 80 which are very informative to the everyday torque and feel of the bike accelerating on the road. Cycle World magazine once had the most exhaustive numerical evaluations. Now in the You Tube Era, there is no room in a 6 minute video for even rudimentary numbers. Great looking bike but no rebound damping changes for 9500 bucks. Ouch.
It's not that kind of bike.
@@michaelripplinger2169 I just mistakenly dumped my reply to you but suffice to say that basic roll-on numbers and basic hp and braking numbers are a good tool for evaluating a bike and take little time given that this is a 9500 dollar machine being given a glowing review. Safe riding.
82bhp at 8,000 rpm, importantly 78 Nm of torque at 6.800rpm, 0-100kph in 3.5-4 seconds depending on who is riding it. However 150kph takes 8seconds, the bike loses puff at the top end. 200kph is 21seconds. The roll on 30-60kph or 80-130 kph is brilliant (based on riding an 8S). So everyday legal riding this bike will feel quicker than it should. Ride like a maniac and others will get there first. But real world safe riding and this bike great and feels quick and relaxed, encouraging short shifting. Brakes are better than the label with good feel. No stopping distance presently.
@@paulconnell1309 Kudos to you, sir. a Mini-Cycle World review in a neat package. The 21 seconds to 124mph is pretty slow but the roll-on sounds great. So very helpful to know and so simple. too bad something so brief and cogent could not have been in the video. Cheers.
@@thomasr.bartonjd7815 Thanks for your comment. Where I live 124mph is life and licence limiting.
Us Aprilia RST1000 Futura owners are over here like...."Uh huh, sure" 🤣🤣🤣
80s synth music
The sxr 900 is only 1500 more!
The more adjustment suspension has means more chances to screw up....
Modern XJ6F
I love the blue R, such an American panty dropper ❤😂
He is clearly into Suzukis
I hate, hate, hate parallel twins. I do not look forward to the demise of inline fours (due to emissions requirements). I DO look forward to electric bikes. I'll miss the sound, character, and experience of a gas engine and shifting somewhat, but I've ridden some pretty powerful e-bicycles and I have to admit the immediate torque from zero RPM's and the lack of shifting does have an appeal of it's own...
ofcourse suzuki innovates perfect superbikes but this bike have perellal exhaust which has minus point.... if company given 4 inline.. our confidence get more loud exhaust.. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Im hearing these 2020+ bikes (Street bikes) are very tame in comparison to the earlier 2000s version.😢. Is what you mean by smooth?
@@t7pdtdyfulll287 especially the 07's.. The older RC's/RVT's.. hell yeah
@@t7pdtdyfulll287well a cbr 600rr has 30 more horses
They want to make new bikers friendly
@@arx117 I agree with your comment.. but You know like we all know to REALLY be a rider ..come with risk.. We still need skill. I feel these training wheel motorcycles isnt helping on that regard you think?
@@obamavariant9128 right.. Even with the CBR's I heard the 1997-2006 rocked but the 2007 models was The GOAT..but after 2009 they went left.
THE NON ADJUSTABLE SUSENSION KILLS IT FOR ME FOR THE PRICE
Yeah it's a shame that many manufacturer chose non adjustable inverted forks over conventional adjustable one. And personally I don't like the proportions of this bike in terms of how it looks so it's a no.
Tbh, adjustable forks is only useful if you know what you are doing, otherwise it's just a liability. And besides, you could probably fit an old adjustable gixxer fork on the bike if you want to.
@@okok-oc4ko no need, I pay a professional to tune my suspensions. Best investment apart from ergonomics.
It's a bargain, what the hell you on about
👍👍
Couldn’t they have lost that ugly fender thingy hanging off the back. It’s looks like something a disgruntled employee at the Suzuki design team decided to tack on.
Should have transitioned to the s1000F the gt and katana uhm not so good
Why does Suzuki call a parallel twin a VStrom? Shouldn't it be a PStrom?
Parallel twins is a type of engine, not bike name
@@arx117
The V in VStrom was for it's V twin, another type of engine. The SV line is also that way, stands for "Sport V-twin" which used/use almost the same engines. I have one of each.
In India it will cost around 12000 dollars with all the tax. Insanely expensive . The tax imposed on vehicles are out of this world
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i don't like it for those price you can get a 4-cylinder from Kawasaki or honda, or even the naked Yamaha's
I remember when computers and motorcycles were two different things.
😂😂😂😂😂
There are so many people hating on this bike purely for the hell of it.
It's an 800 with 40 fewer bhp than the 600 they used to make. . .
@@zacrl1230the r6 might make more top end power but no mid range power with 4 cylinders but is less versatile than an r7 which has a wider power band with bigger engine but only 2 cylinders. Similarly............
@zacrl12exactly. Its a watered down pipe and slippers bike for the woke generation.
@@threeamigos842 And here I thought it was communism. . . .
These twin cylinders bikes can’t replace liter bikes
So they made their own Ninja 650.
Japanese Ducati Supersport
suzuki still the best,, 😀😀👍👍👍
20 years a go u could get a high revving inline 4 that almost doubles the rpms on this thing for the same price now a days we get this… a sport-bike well
No iant a sport
Bike
Suppose to be a inline four
High revving?? Maybe? Regardless this is over
Priced.
Is it better than a SV650? The SV650 sure sounds better with a slip-on can.
$9,400 gets you the new GSX-8R with all the bells and whistles. $4,000 gets you a SV650S in fantastic condition with 90% of the performance, a cool v-twin sound, and 0% of the tech, which I think is a good thing. The new bike is terrific, but the old SV650S is also terrific for a lot less money.
@@edwardkeeter762 9400 with all the bells and whistles? Everything is so cheap in the US. You're looking at 14k euros where I live.
@@Mr_Glennhere in south east Asia, the price is a nightmare. Only rich elitist can afford anything 750cc and above.
@@Mr_GlennAmericans always have prices listed without VAT, with VAT that they have to pay afterward, it gets to be the same price
@Anpan-hx4jm not even close. Tax title license shipping and prep. Your probably out the door for 11k or so.
Instead of music, how about letting us hear what the bike sounds like?
Somewhat hard to see what this does better than say a slightly used CBR 650F/R
More tech i guess, but slower and evidently cheaper built.
Btw Honda messed up the look of those two bikes recently...all those bikes needed was a tft screen but instead they messed it up with designs that made me remember the gladius