Fantastic video! The live points, then slow/stop motion with commentary are the absolutely best videos as teaching tools. Thank you Nicole, Jordan and Riley.
Probably because of Riley’s size he is able to volley most of Jordan’s returns and stay more still. Also @8:00 Jordan gets pushed back almost 3 ft from the NVZ line before he regains position. Great video and stop/slow motion helps to really see the procedure.
His dinks are so good and unattackable, as he puts so much pressure on you because he can attack anytime. I am also trying to attack whenever I can, so that I’m not always on the defensive. Sometimes the depth of the dinks from Riley are very hard to judge, so I end up having to back up to hit a good dink.
@@primetimepickleball What makes his dinks great and unattackable? As others have commented Jordan backed off NVZ line a couple of times, I wonder if he could have leaned forward and hit ball in air versus step back and play off the bounce? Asking cause I see this myself and wonder which is better. The other thing I find is I hit what I think is an unattackable ball (no pace, bounces in kitchen and stays below net height) and my opponent hits a sharp angle for a winner ... I think it was lucky, then they do it again. I know this video was made a long time ago, but at least for me I find this very informative, we all would enjoy the opportunity to hit against a top player and get some tips. You could have had this roll for another 20 minutes, very interesting slo motion analysis. Thanks for sharing!!
@@jimw6991 I wonder too since Riley is a lot taller, he has more reach into the NVZ. And just because of his physical size, he's more in control of the point. When PB becomes really popular, I see 7' players coming online making the NVZ moot.
Absolutely a great teaching experience. The slomo, net line insert, etc. were excellent! But inserting the verbal sentences worked great for me. Thank you very much for your hard work. Both of you. :)
This is the BEST video to discuss the "slightly lower than net" ball handling! Many mid-level players are wrongly aggressively attacking them by using risky drive shots..
Wow, what an amazing video. For me, one of your best that I've seen. From the VO description of what's happening and why, to the actual footage in real time and slow motion to see it in action. Really superb. I find all of your videos very clear, well done and thought out.
Great explanation, informative when shot is broken down. Noticed Jordan doing a lot of moving around and Riley staying still yet ready with that paddle in front of him.
Great slo-mo breakdown. As I watched it also be me clear to me how important it is to keep the lower body still and “tie the line.” Riley constantly dies that with his paddle out front and isn’t having to step off the line and therefore doesn’t get caught out of position! Wow! So clear!
Should add, however, that Riley placed balls so that he didn’t have to step off the line. If had had hit Jordan really high ball he would have had to back up a couple of steps to “dig it out” defensively and then come back to NVL
Riley's positioning of low and wide with forward leaning upper body and paddle far enough in front plus high enough seems to buy him more time to adjust, watch ball into paddle, swing compactly with contact in front and quickly back to ready. I struggle with that ready position so lose time, get off balance and lose eyes on ball. Great to see it done correctly to be more ready and balanced so more able to watch the ball.
This is awesome. Would like more vids like this. Fun to watch and I learned a lot. I notice you step into the kitchen regularly BEFORE the ball lands inside the kitchen. Is that allowed or is that a fault?
Glad you liked this format. We'll keep it where applicable. You can step into the kitchen at anytime as long as the ball bounces before you hit it each time.
Riley (& his sister lol) are so good at getting low and keeping the ball in front when making contact w/ volleys. His unique paddle positioning along w/ him crouching low allows him to consistently hit down on the ball and avoid getting jammed up.
What I see is that usually my aggressive attack is hit back to my partner who is not ready! Somehow the parner needs a clue of what is coming! Its easier to hit cross court then straight ahead. Maybe the straight ahead dinking could give partner a clue? Sometimes your partner is your enemy too!
Love the slo-mo analysis of each of the rallies. I did notice something and wanted to ask regarding footwork. I noticed that Riley kept his feet and shoulders facing the net most of the time, while Jordan would often take his right foot and step back so his stance/shoulders were facing towards the net post. Was this to look like he was going to pull the trigger but was faking it, or for some other reason? Was curious about that. Thanks!
Hi Ernie! Step back dinks/drives are something that is happening more and more. Yes, it does offer a different "look" to you opponent and also gives you the chance to speed it up if a deeper dink will bounce high enough. I don't believe he was faking as much as he was looking for a speed up if it was there but yes, you could mix in fakes. Riley doesn't do this as much as others and opts for a different strategy/style. He tends to take those as a dink volley and speed up out of the air. Jordan would mix in dink volleys and step backs.
Love the videos when you do the slow mo of the point. It is really helpful for me at my 3.0-3.5 level. I like to see the paddle angle, footing, how and why a shot is successful, etc. Excellent video and commentary.
It is interesting to see the different styles in play between these two. Jordan looked like he was moving around more and that may be because Riley was pushing him around. Riley looked to be in a very athletic stance but was very stable. He hardly moved side to side, that may be because he is so tall and has a long reach. I also noticed the very light grip pressure from Jordan especially right after the the ball rolls off the net he spins his paddle. You can also see in the slow motion part that he loosens his grip for the next shot too. I like this drill to shoot for a target to get the chicken wing. I find myself in that position more often then wanted. How do you avoid that as the receiver?
It’s very hard to do! I think that being cognitive about defending that shot is a good start. If you can expect it to come, then you will have a much better chance in defending it. Also playing a bit off the line against great attackers help me see the ball a little bit better
Stan McShinsky I think it’s an awesome drill too and really well done video. Also I think resetting your paddle to the “10-12 o’clock” position quickly after each volley can help avoid the chicken wing. When your paddle is not “cheating” to one side like the backhand, then you have extra time to move your paddle to the forehand position so you can hit those balls on your right shoulder area.
GREAT video. I've never quite understood how players like Riely get away with attacking low balls. I'm playing in a little bit. I think I'll try this out once or twice today.
During their last point beginning at 6:08, it seems as though Riley consistently is able to hit great counterattacks using his forehand when chickened winged, while Jordan uses his backhand to reset the point when chickened winged. I've noticed Riley's racket reset position is very high, around shoulder height, along with a low athletic stance that makes him about the same height as Jordan, and seems like he is always ready for the chicken wing shot and never has to use his backhand to hit it!
Great observation. Although, I think the main thing that allows him to do this so easily is his semi western-western grip. He is one of the few players that can play with that grip throughout the whole point. Very unconventional, yet very effective for him.
@@primetimepickleball Oh my gosh u are so right! I just switched between continental and semi western and put it next to my dominant side shoulder and it totally changes how you hit a chicken wing shot! I also use semi-western for everything in pickleball but was thinking of changing to continental when I volley (like i do in tennis) but now I might just stick to semi-western for everything! I love the idea of being able to hit chicken wing shots with my forehand.
Hi Jordan, when I get a ball to that high right shoulder area I will try to play forehand volley. I do this by rotating shoulders close to parallel with path of incoming ball and make contact with ball more at side or even behind me. Although I can't attack I have some success resetting these, more so the
Nice video and explanation. It is apparent to me that Riley stays square and gets low at the NVZ. The other guy sets up like he is hitting a ground stroke which takes time, which you rarely have while in a dink battle with someone who can change gears on you in split second. Staying square gives you a little more time to adjust quickly. Did anyone else notice that? @primetime pickleball
Thank you primetime pickleball. Another great video production for all. Both have great dinking skills, reset and low-ball attack. I think we can clearly see Ridley is an offensive and yet with great counter -attack skills. Although he is tall and 'lengthy ', his natural instinct response always help him to have upper hand in whatever situation he is in. His another great tournament can be watch at ua-cam.com/video/uarYyGGpeTE/v-deo.html..... he is really a great player.
Western grip is very extreme and he isn’t using that on either hand. He looks to be using a nearly semi-western grip with his right hand and a lefty eastern grip on his left hand.
One thing that I can think of is that Your paddle face is not open enough during contact. This may seem basic, although it is true. If you have an “easy kill” like you say, while you contact the ball, your paddle is facing down. Maybe try to aim more over the net when you get a kill shot. Also, if you contact the ball too far in front of you, that may cause you to reach and face your paddle down. Let the ball come to you, and then smash the ball!
This is one of the hardest shots to defend in pickleball. Anticipation is huge. Also if you know you can’t react, then taking a step back or two when at the NVZ can help a lot! You can go out there with a partner and purposely hit these shots to each other for practice!
It means to take a ball that was hit to you with a lot of pace (an attack from your opponent), and to neutralize it by dropping it down into the NVZ zone.
Yes, great observation. The game is heading more towards minimizing movement of your feet at the line until you really have to so you can keep your body more efficient and organized.
I'm glad prime time is finally starting to do videos at this level. Riley is an animal.
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I love the way Riley stays balanced at the NVZ and never back up!
He’s so good at the line. And from everywhere really. 👍
This is a great teaching format with the slow motion and written commentary. Would love to see more!
Thanks!!
Yes please
I love how this video was done. It slows down the plays so you can see the strategy well and Riley is one of my favorite players.
Thanks Jina!!
Both demo & “written” description are very good!
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Fantastic video! The live points, then slow/stop motion with commentary are the absolutely best videos as teaching tools. Thank you Nicole, Jordan and Riley.
You’re welcome John!!!
Couldn’t have said it better John Burns! Keep them coming guys!
Probably because of Riley’s size he is able to volley most of Jordan’s returns and stay more still. Also @8:00 Jordan gets pushed back almost 3 ft from the NVZ line before he regains position. Great video and stop/slow motion helps to really see the procedure.
His dinks are so good and unattackable, as he puts so much pressure on you because he can attack anytime. I am also trying to attack whenever I can, so that I’m not always on the defensive. Sometimes the depth of the dinks from Riley are very hard to judge, so I end up having to back up to hit a good dink.
Correct! Riley pretty much stays in one place and is able to reach almost anything Jordan sends back
@@primetimepickleball What makes his dinks great and unattackable? As others have commented Jordan backed off NVZ line a couple of times, I wonder if he could have leaned forward and hit ball in air versus step back and play off the bounce? Asking cause I see this myself and wonder which is better. The other thing I find is I hit what I think is an unattackable ball (no pace, bounces in kitchen and stays below net height) and my opponent hits a sharp angle for a winner ... I think it was lucky, then they do it again. I know this video was made a long time ago, but at least for me I find this very informative, we all would enjoy the opportunity to hit against a top player and get some tips. You could have had this roll for another 20 minutes, very interesting slo motion analysis. Thanks for sharing!!
@@jimw6991 I wonder too since Riley is a lot taller, he has more reach into the NVZ. And just because of his physical size, he's more in control of the point. When PB becomes really popular, I see 7' players coming online making the NVZ moot.
Best shot-by-shot explanation of decision making and what the goals of each shot are at the net that I've yet seen. Well done!
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That was one of your best video tip and play sequences
Thanks so much Ted!!!
Absolutely a great teaching experience. The slomo, net line insert, etc. were excellent! But inserting the verbal sentences worked great for me. Thank you very much for your hard work. Both of you. :)
Thanks!!!!
Love the slow motion explanations.. Nice guys🤙
Thanks!!
This is the BEST video to discuss the "slightly lower than net" ball handling!
Many mid-level players are wrongly aggressively attacking them by using risky drive shots..
Thank you! Glad it helps.
Thanks Jordan and Riley
So grateful for this video
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Wow, what an amazing video. For me, one of your best that I've seen. From the VO description of what's happening and why, to the actual footage in real time and slow motion to see it in action. Really superb. I find all of your videos very clear, well done and thought out.
Thanks, we appreciate it !!
Great explanation, informative when shot is broken down. Noticed Jordan doing a lot of moving around and Riley staying still yet ready with that paddle in front of him.
He made work for every point ! 😊
Riley looks so efficient at the kitchen line. For the last point the number of airdinks is 6-1 in Riley’s favor.
Noticed the same thing.
Quality content ! Thank you Nicole, Jordan and Riley.
Thanks!
Great slo-mo breakdown. As I watched it also be me clear to me how important it is to keep the lower body still and “tie the line.” Riley constantly dies that with his paddle out front and isn’t having to step off the line and therefore doesn’t get caught out of position! Wow! So clear!
Should add, however, that Riley placed balls so that he didn’t have to step off the line. If had had hit Jordan really high ball he would have had to back up a couple of steps to “dig it out” defensively and then come back to NVL
Yes, for sure, he didn't send much "high" at all and as a result holding his position made a lot of sense.
GREAT slomo breakdown and written description. It's about time we see this kind of quality content!
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EXCELLENT video - the Slow down and commentary are a step above everything else out there!
Thanks Matt! Glad you enjoyed it.
Riley's positioning of low and wide with forward leaning upper body and paddle far enough in front plus high enough seems to buy him more time to adjust, watch ball into paddle, swing compactly with contact in front and quickly back to ready. I struggle with that ready position so lose time, get off balance and lose eyes on ball. Great to see it done correctly to be more ready and balanced so more able to watch the ball.
This is awesome. Would like more vids like this. Fun to watch and I learned a lot. I notice you step into the kitchen regularly BEFORE the ball lands inside the kitchen. Is that allowed or is that a fault?
Glad you liked this format. We'll keep it where applicable. You can step into the kitchen at anytime as long as the ball bounces before you hit it each time.
Riley (& his sister lol) are so good at getting low and keeping the ball in front when making contact w/ volleys. His unique paddle positioning along w/ him crouching low allows him to consistently hit down on the ball and avoid getting jammed up.
Yep!!
This is a lesson I've been waiting for. Need to move up from 2.5, this will help!
Awesome Jon !
Great video showing every aspect of the setup and shot. Thanks ALL!
Thanks so much!
What I see is that usually my aggressive attack is hit back to my partner who is not ready! Somehow the parner needs a clue of what is coming! Its easier to hit cross court then straight ahead. Maybe the straight ahead dinking could give partner a clue? Sometimes your partner is your enemy too!
Lol! Be ready partner ;)
That was great to see the example many times and hear and read the breakdown of the point. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is good. I'll have to put it on the list for students..
Good job guys
Excellent high level techniques! Great info, Thanks!
Thanks!
Very good video. I noticed Riley’s eyes and head watching the ball hit the paddle. I like to watch where I want to hit it. Too often the net.
Love the shot by shot descriptions! Really helps me understand what's happening in the rally! Thanks!
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Anyone else think a few out balls were played during the last rally?
Most likely yes! Although as you know it can be hard to judge when the ball is moving so fast!
Nice slow motion breakdown.
Can I give multiple likes?! 💯 Love this channel (favorite!), love the Newman's, and I can't wait to rip on my new Selkirk paddle when I get it. 🙌🏽
Awesome!!!
High quality contents and explanations. Thanks for this video! 😊❤🏓
You’re very welcome! Thx for the comment.
great instruction video !!!
Thank you!
great slow motion video and descriptions! Thx!
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Great job! Excellent video!
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Love the slo-mo analysis of each of the rallies. I did notice something and wanted to ask regarding footwork. I noticed that Riley kept his feet and shoulders facing the net most of the time, while Jordan would often take his right foot and step back so his stance/shoulders were facing towards the net post. Was this to look like he was going to pull the trigger but was faking it, or for some other reason? Was curious about that. Thanks!
Hi Ernie! Step back dinks/drives are something that is happening more and more. Yes, it does offer a different "look" to you opponent and also gives you the chance to speed it up if a deeper dink will bounce high enough. I don't believe he was faking as much as he was looking for a speed up if it was there but yes, you could mix in fakes. Riley doesn't do this as much as others and opts for a different strategy/style. He tends to take those as a dink volley and speed up out of the air. Jordan would mix in dink volleys and step backs.
Love the videos when you do the slow mo of the point. It is really helpful for me at my 3.0-3.5 level. I like to see the paddle angle, footing, how and why a shot is successful, etc. Excellent video and commentary.
Thanks, I will keep working the slo mo in. Yes, you can really "see" more of what is happening.
It is interesting to see the different styles in play between these two. Jordan looked like he was moving around more and that may be because Riley was pushing him around. Riley looked to be in a very athletic stance but was very stable. He hardly moved side to side, that may be because he is so tall and has a long reach. I also noticed the very light grip pressure from Jordan especially right after the the ball rolls off the net he spins his paddle. You can also see in the slow motion part that he loosens his grip for the next shot too.
I like this drill to shoot for a target to get the chicken wing. I find myself in that position more often then wanted. How do you avoid that as the receiver?
It’s very hard to do! I think that being cognitive about defending that shot is a good start. If you can expect it to come, then you will have a much better chance in defending it. Also playing a bit off the line against great attackers help me see the ball a little bit better
Stan McShinsky I think it’s an awesome drill too and really well done video. Also I think resetting your paddle to the “10-12 o’clock” position quickly after each volley can help avoid the chicken wing. When your paddle is not “cheating” to one side like the backhand, then you have extra time to move your paddle to the forehand position so you can hit those balls on your right shoulder area.
GREAT video. I've never quite understood how players like Riely get away with attacking low balls. I'm playing in a little bit. I think I'll try this out once or twice today.
When your hands are that good, and you pick great spots to attack, you can attack anytime you want! 😊
From spectators' angle it looks like Jordan could have let some attacks fly by(hopefully out). Cant really tell, however, and Riley has wicked Topspin
Great video! The breakdowns are highly informative…
Glad you liked it Jason!
Great video really
Thanks Brandon!
During their last point beginning at 6:08, it seems as though Riley consistently is able to hit great counterattacks using his forehand when chickened winged, while Jordan uses his backhand to reset the point when chickened winged. I've noticed Riley's racket reset position is very high, around shoulder height, along with a low athletic stance that makes him about the same height as Jordan, and seems like he is always ready for the chicken wing shot and never has to use his backhand to hit it!
Great observation. Although, I think the main thing that allows him to do this so easily is his semi western-western grip. He is one of the few players that can play with that grip throughout the whole point. Very unconventional, yet very effective for him.
@@primetimepickleball Oh my gosh u are so right! I just switched between continental and semi western and put it next to my dominant side shoulder and it totally changes how you hit a chicken wing shot! I also use semi-western for everything in pickleball but was thinking of changing to continental when I volley (like i do in tennis) but now I might just stick to semi-western for everything! I love the idea of being able to hit chicken wing shots with my forehand.
Hi Jordan, when I get a ball to that high right shoulder area I will try to play forehand volley. I do this by rotating shoulders close to parallel with path of incoming ball and make contact with ball more at side or even behind me. Although I can't attack I have some success resetting these, more so the
should say more so than jammed backhand volley. Have you tried this? Also slow motion replay us really helpful!
Nice video and explanation. It is apparent to me that Riley stays square and gets low at the NVZ. The other guy sets up like he is hitting a ground stroke which takes time, which you rarely have while in a dink battle with someone who can change gears on you in split second. Staying square gives you a little more time to adjust quickly. Did anyone else notice that? @primetime pickleball
Good observation! Yes, most pros are you using the stance where they stay square as much as possible. (sorry for the delay)
Do you have a video on how to attack these balls at net height with them going long?
That’s a great idea! Thanks for the suggestion!
Great video as always. But it looks like a prison lol
Thank you primetime pickleball. Another great video production for all. Both have great dinking skills, reset and low-ball attack. I think we can clearly see Ridley is an offensive and yet with great counter -attack skills. Although he is tall and 'lengthy ', his natural instinct response always help him to have upper hand in whatever situation he is in. His another great tournament can be watch at ua-cam.com/video/uarYyGGpeTE/v-deo.html..... he is really a great player.
Thanks Sam!
Jordan can take on these pros!
Hey great video thanks. Where/how did Jordan get the yellow/lime Edge-Gard?
Colored electrical tape from Amazon! 😎
Wow cool I have that paddle,Looks awesome. Thanks
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Great
Riley, do you keep the "western" grip on your back hand too? It seems like you do.
Western grip is very extreme and he isn’t using that on either hand. He looks to be using a nearly semi-western grip with his right hand and a lefty eastern grip on his left hand.
Im pretty flexible and have quick hands, but OFTEN hit into the net when it should have been an easy kill. Any tips?
One thing that I can think of is that Your paddle face is not open enough during contact. This may seem basic, although it is true. If you have an “easy kill” like you say, while you contact the ball, your paddle is facing down. Maybe try to aim more over the net when you get a kill shot. Also, if you contact the ball too far in front of you, that may cause you to reach and face your paddle down. Let the ball come to you, and then smash the ball!
I notice Jordan is standing further back from the NVL?????
He was pushing me off the line!!
How does one respond to dominate hand shoulder shot with out being jammed up
This is one of the hardest shots to defend in pickleball. Anticipation is huge. Also if you know you can’t react, then taking a step back or two when at the NVZ can help a lot! You can go out there with a partner and purposely hit these shots to each other for practice!
I realize this is a demo but does Jordan commit a kitchen fault at 5:29?
I never hit the ball, so no! 😁
PrimeTime Pickleball How about at 3:33? Trying to get a clear understanding of the rule...
@@ibh1001 no fault...he re-established before hitting...plus ball bounced.
Is Jordan's edge guard actually yellow, or is that tape?
Electrical tape!
Did Riley borrow those shorts from Tyson for this video 😂. Great content though as always!
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Riley is so economical with his volleys
Yes, I like that, economical lol.
fake news kid
Phoenix?? Where are these courts??
Pecos park!
Where do I get this paddle that Jordan uses that an edgeless Encore seems to be MX 6
Nevermind, finally found a video that people put colored electrical tape on the edge guard to customized / help with wear and tear.
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New to pickleball...what is meant by "reset?"
It means to take a ball that was hit to you with a lot of pace (an attack from your opponent), and to neutralize it by dropping it down into the NVZ zone.
ua-cam.com/video/16cN1uVdl2s/v-deo.html
@@primetimepickleball Thanks for the quick reply and explanation.
What editing software do you use?
Screen flow
I noticed Reilly rarely moved his feet while Jordan was almost always moving his feet.
Just an observation
Yes, great observation. The game is heading more towards minimizing movement of your feet at the line until you really have to so you can keep your body more efficient and organized.
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