Kratos is an incredibly difficult character to scale but even I think frezia saga is a bit low. Theirs a reason people put him up against super characters like beerus and jiren. Even if frezia blows up the planet wouldent he be sent to heaven/hell, break his way out and track him down again?
Yeah for sure. I personally settled on Frieza but I can see arguments for Cell. But there are ways to hype Kratos up all the way into Super so there honestly isnt a right answer
@@ijudgeanimeI personally think your downplaying Kratos a fuck ton. Thor is able to splinter the world tree. At which we know holds all the realms on its branches and its stated to be infinite.. and Kratos was Equal to Thor. So I'd also take that into account, you also have to remember they severely nerf Kratos in the games but even then there's evidence of him having infinite speed
Depending on of you count him coming back to life, he can just find a way to crawl back from hell like the times he died on the original series. So one could argue he gets to cell through brute force but cant feasibly pit him down due to regeneration.
Maybe imperfect cell, not perfect cell. I don’t really see him getting past the androids who are individually far stronger than mecha frieza (who is two times stronger than his namek-self) and both possess unlimited energy. Like sure maybe he could get a few hits on them early, but once he comes back they’ll probably just repeatedly speed blitz him. Also the only way he could come back is if he’s going to the dragon ball after life. This is because it’d take a good while for him to be sent all the way back to whatever after life he must go to, leave that after life, return to the dragon ball’s universe, and return to earth. This also works off the assumption that he could even get back. EVEN THEN, he likely wouldn’t be put in a position to leave the otherworld, likely just get reincarnated. TL;DR. Would not make it to cell, almost certainly wouldn’t be able to come back like he did in the games.
@I-need-2-win he does though, he has very consistent scaling that's => to the DB verse, and his highball scaling is far more concrete than the DB verse's highball scaling.
@I-need-2-win kratos in lore scales to characters that can destroy universes casually, and he's resisted existence erasure before, whats to say he cant resist zeno's erasure (or just speedblitz him)
Yup. Not an outlier too since gods have statements of moving or being able to freeze time, and Skol and Hati straight up devour the sun and the moon in the legends while time was standing still. GoW definetely seems like the kind of verse that both wants the massive scale and crazy high end feats like Thor splintering a higher dimensional, infinite in size contruct that supports all of creation, but also shows Kratos being hurt as hes launched through buildings. There is this awkward disconnect between gameplay and the actual power of the characters which is why there are such contrasting opinions with the power scalers thinking he clears most if not all of super, and more casual watcers thinking he does not get past Raditz lol
@@temp155 facts the difference between gameplay and lore is wild. I legit was shocked when he said Kratos stops on Namek saga. It's almost as bad as the Superman video he made
@@djams8477 When we are talking about higher dimensions infinite stats wouldn't make much difference, even if we put Kratos at 5D he would stop in the BoG saga.
I think you should always disregard that a character could just blow up the planet they are fighting on. Cuz techinically, at any point, most db villains could've just done that if they really wanted to win, but didn't
@@coulter9367 So did Buu. And Cell and Vegeta tried. So yeah all major villians in Z either tried to or actually did blow up the planet. Technically once you get into DBS, Frieza has blown up the planet he's on twice.
@@iniabifreely2352 i was thinking more like, off screen. There was a bunch of down time where frieza couldve just blown up earth before goku arrived, cell blow up earth before cell games, buu blowing up earth when he first hatched
This might have been suggested before but, how far would Ben Tennyson from Ben 10 get in dbz? Would he be have the chance to scan his foes before he gets blitzed? Would Alien X (or Atomic-X if you use his future counterpart's biomnitrix) be enough to carry him?
I think he will be dependant on AlienX for most of the run. And about scaning the DNA. It would depend, brcause yeah he would transform like a "perfect 'alfa'" of the specie and have natural ability, but KI use and techniques are very rarely a natural thing, he qill basically be like a Broly but even less trained. Broly had his father to train him. The Omnitrix would just throw Ben into the fray. So he very likely may be powerful but he isn't going to be at their level. Also Ben has been surpased but normal aliens of the same specie he turned, so yeah he can loose as seen in the show. Qhat can save him *A LOT* is the Omnitrix life saving function that may sometimes turn him in the last second in something that may survive the attacks.
@@AugustoEL Would it be too much of a stretch to think he uses master control and pulls a better ginyu strategy thru the entire series? Scan strongest species nearby, fight, face stronger species, scan, repeat. Also even if he turns into let's say frieza and is out-skilled, turning ultimate or fusing another alien in the transformation could maybe compensate said lack of skill
it would come down to Alien X in the end. Frieza Saga or early Android is where he'd max out from collecting DNA, since i think he'd be fine up through Namek, but Frieza himself would be a hard block i believe. He needs to learn how to use each form. And Frieza himself has multiple forms that take him a short time to change into. It would take Ben a while to learn how to transform. Frieza would likely kill him the second he turned into a member of the frost demons, just because he would know the potential threat he stood. Alien X is basically the equivalent of Xeno in Ben's universe.
@@Selet101 2 Things. 1 Missconception, Frieza forms are actually not evolutions, he is just releasingg more of his true self. The final form is how he is originally. The whole frost demon race (as I heard them called) can do that, they get forms to contain/hold back their full power. Add to that that Frieza is a mutatn in his race, he iss ridiculous powerful, and has powers most do not have. 2 This is more a doubt, is Alien X multiversal? Xeno is he can delete multiple universes by just thinking, but that is because he is fundamentally tied to the universes or at least he seems if he was not someone better would have taken his place long ago.
@@AugustoEL "Alien X can create and recreate an entire universe at will.Alien X is able to warp reality, time, and space with ease and at any level he wishes. Even his thoughts can become real. In short, Alien X can do anything.Alien X can survive a timeline destruction" that's on it's wiki. Not sure how much closer to Xeno it can get to be honest. fair enough for the frieza forms. always forget they are in reverse order. i think it would still take long enough for someone to figure out Frieza's abilities for him to just be able to kill them off first. or just outlast the omnitrix's timer.
The scaling is a little inaccurate , to put it in a nutshell, Kratos defeated Zeus who has multiple statements of him being the strongest being in the Greek cosmology, that'll put him above Atlas who was stated to be capable of holding and destroying it , the scaling for that isn't universal and more so low multiversal since the underworld was stated to be infinite , old Kratos AP wise scales to complex multi due to him defeating a bloodlusted Thor while holding back , in the cannon novels of Gow2018 the 9 realms were stated to be equal in size and Midgard was stated to have and endless sky , not only that but the Yggdrasil was stated to be infinite in size and it's a construct that transcends all of time and space making it infinite 5d and Thor was capable of splintering it with a single strike sending shock waves across all of time and space as Mimir stated in Gow 2018 (it also happened in Ragnarok) , Odin was capable of killing Ymir the embodiment of creation itself (he also 1shoted Thor) and yet Kratos did defeat him , Kratos's reaction and movement speed is actually beyond any speed feat in canon dragon ball , he literally defeated Thanatos who existed beyond time itself, managed to catch and keep up with Hermes who was stated to be capable of dodging a light that can cover the entire underworld, defeated both the value and Nidhogg who czn casually travel in a realm that transcends time giving him immeasurable speed , and Xeno was only capable of moving in no time making his speed inaccessible, Kratos's current weapons all scale to his ap so yeah , as far as I can tell not a single dB characters has performed an Ap feats that scales to infinite 5d and even if there's they need to scale higher than Kratos and be on par or faster than him while being equipped with tons of hax Kratos either doesn't have resistance to or can't deal with
I think he could get into Cell given the Spartan Rage power boost and all the weapons he has access to. I don’t know if he beats Cell but he likely wouldn’t get much further in the Buu fights.
The thing about this is, unless he's Fighting the DBU in his own land, he'd lose a lot of his powers. He has very few of his powers from the earlier games because he's in a different land. He says it himself, he can't access them anymore. So if that were true and he goes to the DBU to fight, he'd be starting out as weak as he was in the start of 2018's GOW.
I can't remember the exact dialogue, but I believe what he lost from his own land was magic, specifically. The bolt of Zeus, souls of Hades etc etc. He wasn't in the state at the start of the Norse series because of that, he had abandoned that life and wasn't going around killing people. His primary and signature weapon still retained its power despite his refusal to use it. As the game goes on, you can see the shake off the rust that by the point of Ragnarok he's moving like he used to. How would this work in DBZ? Hard to say lol, he's just gonna use their "magic" I guess?
Kratos doesn't need oxygen to breathe since he goes to places like hellhim or the void were oxygen realisticly shouldn't be there and Kratos is comfortably low complex multiversal since he was able to overpower Thor who can splinter the World Tree pretty easily which the Tree surpases Time, Space, that are infinite in size, and last but not least Kratos could just use his rage to increase his already ridiculous power even more and unlike Goku and the other Sayains he doesn't have to worry about losing energy.
We have two scenarios. 1: We take Kratos as it is and just let him fight for fight sake. In this scenario he can make it to Cell, because he can stop time. 2: We take him and put him IN the universe os DB and let him find his way. In this scenario he would not just defeat Freeza and Cell Perfect, but even Moro and Granola, perhaps Zone himself. Kratos is the embodyment of war and fight, he is THE GOD OF WAR. He has the same potential, skill to learn and talent of Goku, with the focus of Vegeta. Give him the chance to train and learn, and he would be able to destroy DB's pantheon
The hard thing about scaling game characters is that they are often nerfed in gameplay to fit any kind of groundedness and stakes, there's a wide range of places you could scale him and i think this is a pretty reasonable midball to lowball
Shit, Kratos was nerfed just by having a Sequel. At the end of GoW he is shown controlling the outcome of all wars throughout time including modern eras. Yet he lost his powers and destroyed the world long before the modern era.
Daughter not son Ares not "Aurez" XD Also he didn't kill Ares to claim the status of God of War for himself, he wanted his memories of murdering his wife and daughter erased but instead was just forgiven by the gods and given the godly role.
1:36 In GoW 2, Kratos kills Zeus, then in 3, he kills the Titans... I think... I haven't Ascention yet, though, so I'm not sure hoe Kratos gets to the north lands.
Kratos solos the verse. He has tons of feats ranging from low multi to low complex multiversal. He actually would survive in space as he has twice and has. Been in realms beyond time and space.
okay well, no. not only does that cosmology difference make this really bad for him, being somewhere doesn’t really mean anything. it’s just going somewhere. all kratos did was travel between worlds and dimensions, and goku also had such feats which are less wanked. kratos is high uni to low multi but like… buuhan? kid buu threatened the entirety of universe seven and withstood a universal attack. in fact, goku transformed into a super saiyan while using the spirit bomb which would make that universal power worth 50 universes. and that’s kid buu. pushing the ball back is a feat of strength, and buu is pure evil, which is what the spirit bomb is basically against, seeing as only the pure hearted can deflect or even use a spirit bomb. that’s an endurance feat. buu can only really be killed by being annihilated down to nothingness which current kratos, as far as i’m aware, can’t do. and buu most definitely outhaxes a cold axe, being able to not only absorb people from his body parts, but also turn them into candy(not limited to that), as long as regenerating from anything as long as even an atom exists. and then super buu who’s most likely weaker than him if not equal but less dangerous was able to scream a portal into another dimension. so buu can’t be killed by physical means(only hurt), can endure universal attacks which are dangerous especially to him, and push them back.. buu was still stronger than a spirit bomb guaranteed to negatively affect him powered by the entirety of universe 7. oh, he’s also done fourth dimensional feat. and then there’s buucolo, buutenks and buuhan shouldn’t be a question. and that’s if he gets to that point in the first place, so he doesn’t really get past z
@@bestdemon7734 gows cosmology is way bigger than dbs cosmology. It caps at infinite timelines but gow has that plus higher planes above them like the light of alfheim and Valhalla then the Yggdrasil which transcends even them and kratos scales to all of it.
@@bestdemon7734 kratos has way more hax than just his axe which can freeze even your soul but kratos also has soul manip, conceptual manip, passive fate manip and probability manip, stat reduction and many more. Kratos can definitely destroy all of buu with the blades of chaos but if you count his old magic, the rage of Poseidon was able to completely wipe out an army of cyclops, wraiths (which are souls) and undead legionaries and they were completely destroyed. Not even smoke remained. Kratos could also use the blade of artimas which kratos wiped a being out of existence with the blade.
@@jhevgainz2307 see, younger kratos is a pretty different story simply because of how he is in character, but that one’s universal off of feats anyway. i thought you were talking about current kratos. also freezing a soul is like… pretty situational(if buu doesn’t just move out the way) and not the most in character thing he would do unless the björn was in trouble for whatever reason, and he doesn’t really have a way to deflect being turned into an egg(damn, he already is). but hey, maybe there’s just an attack like that, and i just didn’t see
Hmmmm, who next..... hmmmmm, I've been playing FF7 (remake) for the first time and going by that game (and other games like Kindom Hearts and Smash) so, what if for a future video, you review Sephiroth
Some random guy in a vid said that because the titans beat the primordials and because the Gods defeated the Titans and since Kratos defeated the Gods, that makes him close to Beerus levels. To this day I don't know what the guy was smoking.
recently, a lot of people working on god of war say that Greece mythology and Norse mythology live on the same planet just on different continents with different laws of physics. if this is true then it really diminishes his overall strength by a large margin
I think your over estimating freezer. It's also clear you haven't really looked into the prequel games. he fought people much faster in those games. Not counting planetary destruction he could easily beat cell. Have a little bit of a challenge with buu given how difficult his magic can be. Beerus I can't say because honestly they just keep making him the impossible totem pole in the series
Correct me but did you put namek frieza as galaxy level??? Dude what are you smoking at best frieza at that point he is star level wtf are you talking about🤨
@@GeekBoy-ro9zbfrieza exploding namek was so powerful it was seen outside of the galaxy. and even if you don’t wanna use that all of namek’s stars were most definitely destroyed with it, and a single sun is most of the solar system, seeing as every planet can fit inside it and it wouldn’t even come close. frieza exploding namek also got rid of its 3 suns which would be multi solar if we assume they’re the same size as our sun, in which they’re most likely bigger and this was frieza at half power
See lowkey Kratos could solo, especially when you take his feats across Yggdrasil, defying death itself, lifting the 9 realms, etc If you highballed all his feats ofc
You forgot one thing. Freiza is egotistic and prideful, they would allow Kratos attack, thinking he's just a weak human, allowing Kratos one free shot if he goes for his absolute strongest attack, or just that one weapon that reaps souls.
First off, don't know which is more destruction, Kratos or berrus. Second, not son it's wife and DAUGHTER that kill. Thirdly... Love your videos, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to you and everyone here
You should really read the novels or least have the media literacy to understand god of war. Even the primordials wich are the weakest characters in the verse scale to the high ends of DBZ super, not only that basically all gods created concepts that rule there respective realities on basically universal or multiversal scale. Kratos resist em and punch em to death, also most gods are horrifying fast literally moving beyond time or normal measures of speed simply cuz how they operate. Thor hit a giant snake so hard so fast it time warped it back in time.... It was fine after. Said fight also broke an abstract construct(tree) wich holds the multiverse together.
Even if he was Dragon Ball levels of universal, he’d only make it to the Buu saga. He’s not getting past Super Buu or Buuhan, Super Buu can literally scream holes in dimensions lol.
No wonder in 25 minutes only 11 likes. I haven't played the God of War games but my friends did and what my friends has told me about the game I will say that he goes a bit more higher like cell saga. And I am Biased to Dragon Ball 😊
Honestly imo kratos could have a really hard time trying to put cell down considering how his regeneration works and he gets stronger after if he couldn't figure it out cell could eventually match him in power and speed Dabura is an interesting one because of his pyterafying spit (i know i spelt that wrong dont hate me) he's said to be around cells power level but if he could land a shot off on kratos it could be interesting as for buu unless kratos completely atomised buu he will come back even more angry and its possible buu would try to absorbed him (depending on wich buu he's facing at the time because super buu was very found of absorption) The biggest problem kratos runs into is the regeneration of cell and buus because buus is just ridiculous
Many video games characters are way way way way way way way way way stronger than you would assume because they're often held back to balance gameplay and to stop hardware the game is running on from causing a fire
Not only that in dragon ball universe canon if you are strong enough you can simply be to strong for hacks to work (mind control, destructo disks, hell even stopping time) I think Kratos would honestly fall to 2nd form frieza sense his hacks would no longer work and in dragon universe friezas speed and power would be relevant to each other (that’s how the rules of db are set).
frezia's casual planet buster feat is literally his best attack in every game. An max he could barely destroy namek even tho he was "226" times stronger. dragon ball fans gotta chill
He destroyed planet vegeta with a finger wbile in first form though... He even litterally states he "held back too much after all" when throwing his death ball at namek (also he was at not at full power when he did that either)
@ijudgeanime what you saying is true. non the less even if frezia used just 10 percent when destroying namek it shoulda been a insta kill based a a finger being more than enough while super suppressed in base form. same goes for super. even if he just used 1 percent even 0.5percent it should've been a insta kill. hell piccolo blew up the moon faster than frezia's blown up anything
I disagree. See, Kratos in the games, yeah, Frieza saga is fair. However, lore wise, he'd stomp. Kratos is Low Multiversal-Complex (6D) and is as fast and strong as he needs or wants to be (direct statement from the creators, btw). And is strong enough to solo all the Gods of Destruction, The Angels, and Zeno. And theres more videos explaining how strong he is and backing up my claim as well, so im not wrong. So if i had to place him on the tier list, it'd be where Archie Sonic is (I forgot where he is). But Kratos is hard to scale, so I'm not mad, i just had to come in with the facts.
There's no divide between "game Kratos" and "lore Kratos". The lore comes from the games and you honestly don't need any outside statements (especially with the Norse games) to have him easily defeat everyone in DBS. I think what you might be talking about is Kratos in gameplay which has to be balanced in order to make the game fun.
Kratos' placement is completely dependent on how you interpret statements. If you use feats as they are shown, Kratos doesn't even make it past the 21st world martial arts tournament. With out taking statements literally, there is nothing in god of war that even scales to moon busting (I'm sure a lot of people will have issues with that.). Furthermore, as far as speed, 21st world martial arts tournament characters are already nearing, if not at, relativistic speeds, which pretty well trounces Kratos. However, if you take statements as literal, and scale Kratos up to universal+ levels (which you have to be pretty generous to do that, even with literal statements. Creation does not equal attack potency.), then Kratos makes it to the Namek saga, as second form Frieza is stated to be capable of destroying the universe. You could argue that he loses earlier than that, due to the fact that his speed is massively lacking compared to Dragon Ball, but things would be having issues actually killing him, due to the power difference. Though, the speed issue would make it so that a well placed Kamehameha or similar ability, could launch him into space ending the fight in that way.
@@arandomperson3840 Feel free to correct me if you believe I'm wrong. But the fact is, the only massive scaling I have ever seen, or heard of for Kratos, is based 100% of statements, with his actual feats only hitting maybe city level, if you are generous.
@@ikeillue8385 the very first scene (chronologically) involves the primordials creating the cosmos by fighting each other. The Primordials are weaker than the Titans and the Titans are weaker than the gods. With Kratos being the strongest god by the end of the Greek trilogy. We also see Atlas holding the world and heavens on his shoulders (it falling would destroy all of creation which includes the underworld, Nyx's parallel dimension and everything else in the Greek world). Atlas is also weaker than Kratos by the end of the trilogy. In the Norse games, we see Thor hit the World Serpent so hard that he's sent back in time. This happens because Thor's blow is strong enough to shake and splinter Yggdrasil, the world tree. Which holds all of existence on its branches. With each of its strands said to transcend space and time itself. After that we see Freyr, a god weaker than Thor and Kratos, hold back the explosion which destroys Asgard (an infinite realm) for a solid minute. Infact he manages to completely block the first explosion and Surtr needs to stab his sword twice in order to get it past Freyr. He does this with a much weaker weapon than Mjölnir or Leviathan with them basically being called as super weapons in comparison. Not only did this explosion destroy Asgard but it also destroyed the branch of Yggdrasil holding it and then violently shook the entire tree. Kratos' son, Atreus, who is a much weaker god than Kratos himself being just a teenager is then hit by said explosion basically point blank. He only gets knocked out with a head injury as a result.
@@arandomperson3840 Ok? Creation and attack potency are not the same thing. Atlas holding the world on his shoulders is also not the same as attack potency. Lift weight is not the same as punching power. Further more, Kratos never performed a feat of lifting the same kind of thing Atlas did. In addition, you are going off statements as far as if Heaven and Earth collided it would destroy everything. Again, "said" is the key word. Statements taken literally. And the infinite Asgard and the Yggdrasil points all that is still based off statements. Though, if Asgard is actually destroyed, depending on how its actually depicted, maybe I could be convinced to higher scaling than what I said.
@@ikeillue8385 as for speed multiple characters such as Hermes, Hercules, Persephone etc can react to Helios' light which was capable of illuminating the entire underworld. The underworld has been said to be infinite in size. Most Titans were capable of moving in a timeless space since time was created when Cronos was born. In the Norse games we have characters again reacting to the Asgard destroying explosion which was able to basically instantly destroy the entirety of Asgard which is again an infinite realm. For supporting feats (this one isn't as concrete) we have Kratos reacting to a soul flying to the afterlife, in particular the soul of a wolf. This is relevant because the afterlife for animals is in another realm entirely. We know from another story that the souls which are not escorted by the Valkyries are capable of reaching the afterlife in a matter of hours at most. The realms themselves are located on completely different branches of the world tree with a single branch said to be stretching to infinity.
How far would shiraori from so I'm a spider so what get spoilers from the light novels passed season 1 Shiraori was able to become a god after eating a magic bomb that could destroy a continent in the light novels Shiraori mentioned that the only way to beat a god is to make them waste all their energy or have soul base attacks to hurt them in the light novels Shiraori was able to fight shadow like beings for days without getting tired she could have ended them quickly but she didn't want to risk killing a sealed goddess that the shadow beings where protecting so she had to hold back but she was able to killed them with her scythe that could one shot because her weapon has a magic ability call rot attack leaving nothing behind. Shiraori also can't die before she became a God she was attack by a soul attack but she survived by transferring her soul in her spider clones after becoming a God she has her own pocket dimension where she can control the flow of time and she keeps items and her spider clones she even created different types of spider clones like meteor spider bullet that are used by opening a portal and by controlling the flow of time in her pocket dimension she make them do a lot damage, her spy spider clones are used to gather information and she can hear and see everything through her spider clones, she even has spider clones far hacking. Shiraori can also heal herself and she has the ability to absorb any form of energy she can even summon her spider clones to help her absorb more energy from her opponents she can destroy the planet if she really wants to since she can breathe in space the only reason why she didn't because she got really close to ariel the demon lord and her two classmates plus she was afraid of leaving the planet because she didn't want run into other gods. She was able to fight the dragon god by using her spider clones to take over his god boundary field that was nerfing her and shiraori was still giving the dragon god trouble because of her absorbing ability she would have won if she didn't stop the fight by telling him that the god name D was the one that was going to destroy the world. Shiraori can also use the god boundary field that will make her stronger and she can also use it to make her opponents weaker you can Google her if you want more information but the wiki doesn't have all her info from the light novels and the things she done. She wouldn't care if frieza destroyed the planet because she can survive in space and just recreate her body or use a spider clone in the light novel she let the dragon god tear her heart out and she wasn't even fase by it she let happen on purpose and she just used healing magic to create a new heart.
That's sorta not true because dragon ball magic is significantly stronger so he might not be able to stop the kais or whatever other beings trying to stop him
@@DannyLee-zv9gl He scales above the Uranus who created an infinite layered infinite sized universe and some planes outside of it transend dimensionaliy and he also scales above thor who effected the world tree which transends time and space on a 5d scale
@@That1jeepcherokee exactly. Like, is it actual invincibility? Or is it invincibility to the point that no one in his own universe is strong enough to hurt him at that point. Also, are all battles taking place at noon? And if he gets to Frieza on Namek, which has like what, 4 suns? How strong does he get THEN? So many questions.
The ashes are his wife and daughter, not son
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Wait when did he make such a mentally challenged mistake?
1 minute and 13 seconds in is when he mistakenly said boi as in son
Kratos is an incredibly difficult character to scale but even I think frezia saga is a bit low. Theirs a reason people put him up against super characters like beerus and jiren. Even if frezia blows up the planet wouldent he be sent to heaven/hell, break his way out and track him down again?
This debate is hard because it really depends how hard you hype up Kratos
Yeah for sure. I personally settled on Frieza but I can see arguments for Cell. But there are ways to hype Kratos up all the way into Super so there honestly isnt a right answer
@@ijudgeanimeand frieza also have universe lvl threat statement along with him tanking the universal Spirit bomb.
like just about every character
you just need to make it clear if what you're saying is a highball or not
@@ijudgeanimeI personally think your downplaying Kratos a fuck ton. Thor is able to splinter the world tree. At which we know holds all the realms on its branches and its stated to be infinite.. and Kratos was Equal to Thor. So I'd also take that into account, you also have to remember they severely nerf Kratos in the games but even then there's evidence of him having infinite speed
@@ijudgeanimeand to add another thing. He also defeated the Primordial God of Death Thanatos who existed beyond time and space itself.
Depending on of you count him coming back to life, he can just find a way to crawl back from hell like the times he died on the original series. So one could argue he gets to cell through brute force but cant feasibly pit him down due to regeneration.
One could argue he could destroy cell
@@hunterculpepper1973 one could
@@TheKoriKasaiagreed….
Maybe imperfect cell, not perfect cell. I don’t really see him getting past the androids who are individually far stronger than mecha frieza (who is two times stronger than his namek-self) and both possess unlimited energy. Like sure maybe he could get a few hits on them early, but once he comes back they’ll probably just repeatedly speed blitz him. Also the only way he could come back is if he’s going to the dragon ball after life. This is because it’d take a good while for him to be sent all the way back to whatever after life he must go to, leave that after life, return to the dragon ball’s universe, and return to earth. This also works off the assumption that he could even get back. EVEN THEN, he likely wouldn’t be put in a position to leave the otherworld, likely just get reincarnated.
TL;DR.
Would not make it to cell, almost certainly wouldn’t be able to come back like he did in the games.
@@WitnessesSay I was being generous honestly.
"Kratos is universal, bare minimum"..... "Kratos loses to galaxy level Frieza"....Okay????
realistically kratos outscales, speedblitzes, and out-haxes the verse.
@@goofyahgojillervery true
Yeah it doesn't make any type of sense whatsoever, he stomps the verse.
@I-need-2-win he does though, he has very consistent scaling that's => to the DB verse, and his highball scaling is far more concrete than the DB verse's highball scaling.
@I-need-2-win kratos in lore scales to characters that can destroy universes casually, and he's resisted existence erasure before, whats to say he cant resist zeno's erasure (or just speedblitz him)
Doesnt kratos move faster than light the light of helios which is said to light up the underworld which im pretty sure was infinite in the lore.
Yup. Not an outlier too since gods have statements of moving or being able to freeze time, and Skol and Hati straight up devour the sun and the moon in the legends while time was standing still. GoW definetely seems like the kind of verse that both wants the massive scale and crazy high end feats like Thor splintering a higher dimensional, infinite in size contruct that supports all of creation, but also shows Kratos being hurt as hes launched through buildings. There is this awkward disconnect between gameplay and the actual power of the characters which is why there are such contrasting opinions with the power scalers thinking he clears most if not all of super, and more casual watcers thinking he does not get past Raditz lol
@@temp155 facts the difference between gameplay and lore is wild. I legit was shocked when he said Kratos stops on Namek saga. It's almost as bad as the Superman video he made
@@djams8477what did you expect, this videos are dragon ball fanboys wanking goku more than I wank myself
@@djams8477 When we are talking about higher dimensions infinite stats wouldn't make much difference, even if we put Kratos at 5D he would stop in the BoG saga.
@@Schwertlicht oh I know I'm just saying that he got that wrong. Like I said before he did Superman much much worse
I think you should always disregard that a character could just blow up the planet they are fighting on. Cuz techinically, at any point, most db villains could've just done that if they really wanted to win, but didn't
Frieza did once
@@coulter9367 So did Buu. And Cell and Vegeta tried. So yeah all major villians in Z either tried to or actually did blow up the planet. Technically once you get into DBS, Frieza has blown up the planet he's on twice.
@@iniabifreely2352 i was thinking more like, off screen. There was a bunch of down time where frieza couldve just blown up earth before goku arrived, cell blow up earth before cell games, buu blowing up earth when he first hatched
@@coulter9367mother f**ker did it twice 😂😂 he's the biggest hater ngl
This might have been suggested before but, how far would Ben Tennyson from Ben 10 get in dbz? Would he be have the chance to scan his foes before he gets blitzed? Would Alien X (or Atomic-X if you use his future counterpart's biomnitrix) be enough to carry him?
I think he will be dependant on AlienX for most of the run. And about scaning the DNA. It would depend, brcause yeah he would transform like a "perfect 'alfa'" of the specie and have natural ability, but KI use and techniques are very rarely a natural thing, he qill basically be like a Broly but even less trained. Broly had his father to train him. The Omnitrix would just throw Ben into the fray. So he very likely may be powerful but he isn't going to be at their level. Also Ben has been surpased but normal aliens of the same specie he turned, so yeah he can loose as seen in the show. Qhat can save him *A LOT* is the Omnitrix life saving function that may sometimes turn him in the last second in something that may survive the attacks.
@@AugustoEL Would it be too much of a stretch to think he uses master control and pulls a better ginyu strategy thru the entire series? Scan strongest species nearby, fight, face stronger species, scan, repeat.
Also even if he turns into let's say frieza and is out-skilled, turning ultimate or fusing another alien in the transformation could maybe compensate said lack of skill
it would come down to Alien X in the end. Frieza Saga or early Android is where he'd max out from collecting DNA, since i think he'd be fine up through Namek, but Frieza himself would be a hard block i believe. He needs to learn how to use each form. And Frieza himself has multiple forms that take him a short time to change into. It would take Ben a while to learn how to transform. Frieza would likely kill him the second he turned into a member of the frost demons, just because he would know the potential threat he stood.
Alien X is basically the equivalent of Xeno in Ben's universe.
@@Selet101 2 Things. 1 Missconception, Frieza forms are actually not evolutions, he is just releasingg more of his true self. The final form is how he is originally. The whole frost demon race (as I heard them called) can do that, they get forms to contain/hold back their full power. Add to that that Frieza is a mutatn in his race, he iss ridiculous powerful, and has powers most do not have.
2 This is more a doubt, is Alien X multiversal? Xeno is he can delete multiple universes by just thinking, but that is because he is fundamentally tied to the universes or at least he seems if he was not someone better would have taken his place long ago.
@@AugustoEL "Alien X can create and recreate an entire universe at will.Alien X is able to warp reality, time, and space with ease and at any level he wishes. Even his thoughts can become real. In short, Alien X can do anything.Alien X can survive a timeline destruction"
that's on it's wiki. Not sure how much closer to Xeno it can get to be honest.
fair enough for the frieza forms. always forget they are in reverse order. i think it would still take long enough for someone to figure out Frieza's abilities for him to just be able to kill them off first. or just outlast the omnitrix's timer.
The scaling is a little inaccurate , to put it in a nutshell, Kratos defeated Zeus who has multiple statements of him being the strongest being in the Greek cosmology, that'll put him above Atlas who was stated to be capable of holding and destroying it , the scaling for that isn't universal and more so low multiversal since the underworld was stated to be infinite , old Kratos AP wise scales to complex multi due to him defeating a bloodlusted Thor while holding back , in the cannon novels of Gow2018 the 9 realms were stated to be equal in size and Midgard was stated to have and endless sky , not only that but the Yggdrasil was stated to be infinite in size and it's a construct that transcends all of time and space making it infinite 5d and Thor was capable of splintering it with a single strike sending shock waves across all of time and space as Mimir stated in Gow 2018 (it also happened in Ragnarok) , Odin was capable of killing Ymir the embodiment of creation itself (he also 1shoted Thor) and yet Kratos did defeat him , Kratos's reaction and movement speed is actually beyond any speed feat in canon dragon ball , he literally defeated Thanatos who existed beyond time itself, managed to catch and keep up with Hermes who was stated to be capable of dodging a light that can cover the entire underworld, defeated both the value and Nidhogg who czn casually travel in a realm that transcends time giving him immeasurable speed , and Xeno was only capable of moving in no time making his speed inaccessible, Kratos's current weapons all scale to his ap so yeah , as far as I can tell not a single dB characters has performed an Ap feats that scales to infinite 5d and even if there's they need to scale higher than Kratos and be on par or faster than him while being equipped with tons of hax Kratos either doesn't have resistance to or can't deal with
Doomslayer next??
Quick question did you only use what he does in the games or did you use any lore feats? Since I know feats that easily gets him past all of Z
Looked at the games yeah
And some fanboys would say kratos is country even tho that's gameplay at worst
I have never seen such downplay on kratos. Ever.
Can you do Aang VS DBz
Kratos would survive a planet bust attack easily, he's a literal god, bro. Multiversal level.
I think he could get into Cell given the Spartan Rage power boost and all the weapons he has access to. I don’t know if he beats Cell but he likely wouldn’t get much further in the Buu fights.
The thing about this is, unless he's Fighting the DBU in his own land, he'd lose a lot of his powers.
He has very few of his powers from the earlier games because he's in a different land. He says it himself, he can't access them anymore.
So if that were true and he goes to the DBU to fight, he'd be starting out as weak as he was in the start of 2018's GOW.
Not really cuz he’s in a different land just the connection to his land is gone. “Supposedly”
I can't remember the exact dialogue, but I believe what he lost from his own land was magic, specifically. The bolt of Zeus, souls of Hades etc etc. He wasn't in the state at the start of the Norse series because of that, he had abandoned that life and wasn't going around killing people. His primary and signature weapon still retained its power despite his refusal to use it. As the game goes on, you can see the shake off the rust that by the point of Ragnarok he's moving like he used to. How would this work in DBZ? Hard to say lol, he's just gonna use their "magic" I guess?
Kratos doesn't need oxygen to breathe since he goes to places like hellhim or the void were oxygen realisticly shouldn't be there and Kratos is comfortably low complex multiversal since he was able to overpower Thor who can splinter the World Tree pretty easily which the Tree surpases Time, Space, that are infinite in size, and last but not least Kratos could just use his rage to increase his already ridiculous power even more and unlike Goku and the other Sayains he doesn't have to worry about losing energy.
Kratos still needs oxygen. Follow the lores. He can't breathe under water or in outer space. So there's plot holes
We have two scenarios.
1: We take Kratos as it is and just let him fight for fight sake. In this scenario he can make it to Cell, because he can stop time.
2: We take him and put him IN the universe os DB and let him find his way. In this scenario he would not just defeat Freeza and Cell Perfect, but even Moro and Granola, perhaps Zone himself.
Kratos is the embodyment of war and fight, he is THE GOD OF WAR. He has the same potential, skill to learn and talent of Goku, with the focus of Vegeta.
Give him the chance to train and learn, and he would be able to destroy DB's pantheon
bro... "are-ehs"? it's fucking air-eez how do you get that wrong lmfao
Its the dutch accent bro, we struggling out here 😭
How do you fuck up the names and story so bad 😐
The hard thing about scaling game characters is that they are often nerfed in gameplay to fit any kind of groundedness and stakes, there's a wide range of places you could scale him and i think this is a pretty reasonable midball to lowball
Shit, Kratos was nerfed just by having a Sequel. At the end of GoW he is shown controlling the outcome of all wars throughout time including modern eras. Yet he lost his powers and destroyed the world long before the modern era.
Daughter not son
Ares not "Aurez" XD
Also he didn't kill Ares to claim the status of God of War for himself, he wanted his memories of murdering his wife and daughter erased but instead was just forgiven by the gods and given the godly role.
Are you going to do seiya?
When i first heard him mispronounced Ares. I knew this shit wasn’t gonna be that good
Oh no I mispronounced a greek name with english as my second language 😭 But nah I have a horrible habit of mispronouncing names 1000% for sure lmao
1:36 In GoW 2, Kratos kills Zeus, then in 3, he kills the Titans... I think... I haven't Ascention yet, though, so I'm not sure hoe Kratos gets to the north lands.
the wildest lowball in powerscaling history bro do your research
Kratos solos the verse. He has tons of feats ranging from low multi to low complex multiversal. He actually would survive in space as he has twice and has. Been in realms beyond time and space.
okay well, no. not only does that cosmology difference make this really bad for him, being somewhere doesn’t really mean anything. it’s just going somewhere. all kratos did was travel between worlds and dimensions, and goku also had such feats which are less wanked. kratos is high uni to low multi but like… buuhan? kid buu threatened the entirety of universe seven and withstood a universal attack. in fact, goku transformed into a super saiyan while using the spirit bomb which would make that universal power worth 50 universes. and that’s kid buu. pushing the ball back is a feat of strength, and buu is pure evil, which is what the spirit bomb is basically against, seeing as only the pure hearted can deflect or even use a spirit bomb. that’s an endurance feat. buu can only really be killed by being annihilated down to nothingness which current kratos, as far as i’m aware, can’t do. and buu most definitely outhaxes a cold axe, being able to not only absorb people from his body parts, but also turn them into candy(not limited to that), as long as regenerating from anything as long as even an atom exists. and then super buu who’s most likely weaker than him if not equal but less dangerous was able to scream a portal into another dimension. so buu can’t be killed by physical means(only hurt), can endure universal attacks which are dangerous especially to him, and push them back.. buu was still stronger than a spirit bomb guaranteed to negatively affect him powered by the entirety of universe 7. oh, he’s also done fourth dimensional feat. and then there’s buucolo, buutenks and buuhan shouldn’t be a question. and that’s if he gets to that point in the first place, so he doesn’t really get past z
@@bestdemon7734 gows cosmology is way bigger than dbs cosmology. It caps at infinite timelines but gow has that plus higher planes above them like the light of alfheim and Valhalla then the Yggdrasil which transcends even them and kratos scales to all of it.
@@jhevgainz2307 and what plans of dimensionality are those on? just need to know rq
@@bestdemon7734 kratos has way more hax than just his axe which can freeze even your soul but kratos also has soul manip, conceptual manip, passive fate manip and probability manip, stat reduction and many more. Kratos can definitely destroy all of buu with the blades of chaos but if you count his old magic, the rage of Poseidon was able to completely wipe out an army of cyclops, wraiths (which are souls) and undead legionaries and they were completely destroyed. Not even smoke remained. Kratos could also use the blade of artimas which kratos wiped a being out of existence with the blade.
@@jhevgainz2307 see, younger kratos is a pretty different story simply because of how he is in character, but that one’s universal off of feats anyway. i thought you were talking about current kratos. also freezing a soul is like… pretty situational(if buu doesn’t just move out the way) and not the most in character thing he would do unless the björn was in trouble for whatever reason, and he doesn’t really have a way to deflect being turned into an egg(damn, he already is). but hey, maybe there’s just an attack like that, and i just didn’t see
So...... you´re the worst scaler on the whole real verse lol
The sonichu amulet 😭
Hey..still waiting for that 100 Years Quest Natsu vid you.. promised👀
Anything to do with Fairy Tail is always a W! Hell yeah! Bring out the NATSU VID! This sounds sick
How far would Akuma (Street Fighter) get in the Dragon Ball universe.
Hmmmm, who next..... hmmmmm, I've been playing FF7 (remake) for the first time and going by that game (and other games like Kindom Hearts and Smash) so, what if for a future video, you review Sephiroth
Some random guy in a vid said that because the titans beat the primordials and because the Gods defeated the Titans and since Kratos defeated the Gods, that makes him close to Beerus levels. To this day I don't know what the guy was smoking.
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I wanted to ask how far do you think Asura from Asura's Wrath would get in the anime Madoka box or miss kobayashi's dragon maid or dragon ball super
Wife and Daughter, Not Wife and Son.
recently, a lot of people working on god of war say that Greece mythology and Norse mythology live on the same planet just on different continents with different laws of physics. if this is true then it really diminishes his overall strength by a large margin
Kratos scales wayy higher than Namek hes bare minimum Buu level
I think your over estimating freezer. It's also clear you haven't really looked into the prequel games. he fought people much faster in those games. Not counting planetary destruction he could easily beat cell. Have a little bit of a challenge with buu given how difficult his magic can be. Beerus I can't say because honestly they just keep making him the impossible totem pole in the series
Frieza scales high
Correct me but did you put namek frieza as galaxy level??? Dude what are you smoking at best frieza at that point he is star level wtf are you talking about🤨
multi solar
@@bestdemon7734 maybe but thats pushing it frieza at max power maybe dwarf star 🤣
@@GeekBoy-ro9zbfrieza exploding namek was so powerful it was seen outside of the galaxy. and even if you don’t wanna use that all of namek’s stars were most definitely destroyed with it, and a single sun is most of the solar system, seeing as every planet can fit inside it and it wouldn’t even come close. frieza exploding namek also got rid of its 3 suns which would be multi solar if we assume they’re the same size as our sun, in which they’re most likely bigger and this was frieza at half power
See lowkey Kratos could solo, especially when you take his feats across Yggdrasil, defying death itself, lifting the 9 realms, etc
If you highballed all his feats ofc
How far would Asura from Asura´s Wrath get in Dragon Ball?
Same as kratos or little bit like him
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Into high levels of video games Dragon ball series.
You forgot one thing. Freiza is egotistic and prideful, they would allow Kratos attack, thinking he's just a weak human, allowing Kratos one free shot if he goes for his absolute strongest attack, or just that one weapon that reaps souls.
First off, don't know which is more destruction, Kratos or berrus.
Second, not son it's wife and DAUGHTER that kill.
Thirdly... Love your videos, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to you and everyone here
Kratos since god of war 3 I think had infinite to immeasurable speed.
We saw the speed feats of dragonball but we never saw it in gow so fuck that bs. If it was true he wouldn't have needed hermes boots.
@@shalindelta7 he beat Hermes without the boots...
Sure Hermes is faster but not by much
I dont know bout u but i personally want to see Last Dragonborn next
Please do Dante from devil may cry, it would be a sick video.
Kratos mastering ki, damn that's OP mainly if he could get all of his weapons since the new DLC allowed him to get his OP sword.
you mean the Blade of Olympus?
@@felixmartinez1100 most of his weapons has blade of in the name.
I loved this characters, plus Baldur and Heimdall and Thor
(Ajimu Najimi next pwease)
Saint Seiya or maybe Adam Blade from Needless?
You should really read the novels or least have the media literacy to understand god of war. Even the primordials wich are the weakest characters in the verse scale to the high ends of DBZ super, not only that basically all gods created concepts that rule there respective realities on basically universal or multiversal scale. Kratos resist em and punch em to death, also most gods are horrifying fast literally moving beyond time or normal measures of speed simply cuz how they operate. Thor hit a giant snake so hard so fast it time warped it back in time.... It was fine after. Said fight also broke an abstract construct(tree) wich holds the multiverse together.
Even if he was Dragon Ball levels of universal, he’d only make it to the Buu saga.
He’s not getting past Super Buu or Buuhan, Super Buu can literally scream holes in dimensions lol.
Do Kirby next, he gets hyped up a lot
No wonder in 25 minutes only 11 likes.
I haven't played the God of War games but my friends did and what my friends has told me about the game I will say that he goes a bit more higher like cell saga.
And I am Biased to Dragon Ball 😊
Totally fair. Personally ai just can't see him beating Frieza but Cell isn't what I would consider a horrible take at all
This has to be a joke right? 165 views and 25 likes and no dislikes is a great ratio.
On a low end kratos is multiversal which drastically outscales anyone in canon dragonball besides zeno
@@PepsieCat You can't see dislikes anymore by a lot time... 1 of UA-cam updates
I wanna see how Asura do, from Asura’s Wrath
Honestly imo kratos could have a really hard time trying to put cell down considering how his regeneration works and he gets stronger after if he couldn't figure it out cell could eventually match him in power and speed
Dabura is an interesting one because of his pyterafying spit (i know i spelt that wrong dont hate me) he's said to be around cells power level but if he could land a shot off on kratos it could be interesting
as for buu unless kratos completely atomised buu he will come back even more angry and its possible buu would try to absorbed him (depending on wich buu he's facing at the time because super buu was very found of absorption)
The biggest problem kratos runs into is the regeneration of cell and buus because buus is just ridiculous
Alright I JUST got Ragnarok. I'll finish this video after I beat it.
Assuming you finish that boring pile of shit.
Many video games characters are way way way way way way way way way stronger than you would assume because they're often held back to balance gameplay and to stop hardware the game is running on from causing a fire
Bro he solos the whole ass series lmao
Not only that in dragon ball universe canon if you are strong enough you can simply be to strong for hacks to work (mind control, destructo disks, hell even stopping time) I think Kratos would honestly fall to 2nd form frieza sense his hacks would no longer work and in dragon universe friezas speed and power would be relevant to each other (that’s how the rules of db are set).
I would love to see dbza nappa vs Norse kratos
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Take Kratos into space and or destroy planet he is on. FIN.
I put him more between Resurrections of F to DBS Broly knowing his lore.
The emperor of mankind from warhammer 40k. Bad idea as it's a huge time investment and his powers are magic bs but also would make a good video
frezia's casual planet buster feat is literally his best attack in every game. An max he could barely destroy namek even tho he was "226" times stronger. dragon ball fans gotta chill
He destroyed planet vegeta with a finger wbile in first form though... He even litterally states he "held back too much after all" when throwing his death ball at namek (also he was at not at full power when he did that either)
@ijudgeanime what you saying is true. non the less even if frezia used just 10 percent when destroying namek it shoulda been a insta kill based a a finger being more than enough while super suppressed in base form. same goes for super. even if he just used 1 percent even 0.5percent it should've been a insta kill. hell piccolo blew up the moon faster than frezia's blown up anything
I disagree. See, Kratos in the games, yeah, Frieza saga is fair. However, lore wise, he'd stomp.
Kratos is Low Multiversal-Complex (6D) and is as fast and strong as he needs or wants to be (direct statement from the creators, btw). And is strong enough to solo all the Gods of Destruction, The Angels, and Zeno. And theres more videos explaining how strong he is and backing up my claim as well, so im not wrong. So if i had to place him on the tier list, it'd be where Archie Sonic is (I forgot where he is). But Kratos is hard to scale, so I'm not mad, i just had to come in with the facts.
There's no divide between "game Kratos" and "lore Kratos". The lore comes from the games and you honestly don't need any outside statements (especially with the Norse games) to have him easily defeat everyone in DBS.
I think what you might be talking about is Kratos in gameplay which has to be balanced in order to make the game fun.
What about the Hermès shoes thing that make himself infinitely fast?
I get that its all fun but why use charactor that ur totaly unfamiliar with?
He solos
Kratos' placement is completely dependent on how you interpret statements. If you use feats as they are shown, Kratos doesn't even make it past the 21st world martial arts tournament. With out taking statements literally, there is nothing in god of war that even scales to moon busting (I'm sure a lot of people will have issues with that.). Furthermore, as far as speed, 21st world martial arts tournament characters are already nearing, if not at, relativistic speeds, which pretty well trounces Kratos.
However, if you take statements as literal, and scale Kratos up to universal+ levels (which you have to be pretty generous to do that, even with literal statements. Creation does not equal attack potency.), then Kratos makes it to the Namek saga, as second form Frieza is stated to be capable of destroying the universe. You could argue that he loses earlier than that, due to the fact that his speed is massively lacking compared to Dragon Ball, but things would be having issues actually killing him, due to the power difference. Though, the speed issue would make it so that a well placed Kamehameha or similar ability, could launch him into space ending the fight in that way.
You have done basically no research. I can tell.
@@arandomperson3840 Feel free to correct me if you believe I'm wrong. But the fact is, the only massive scaling I have ever seen, or heard of for Kratos, is based 100% of statements, with his actual feats only hitting maybe city level, if you are generous.
@@ikeillue8385 the very first scene (chronologically) involves the primordials creating the cosmos by fighting each other. The Primordials are weaker than the Titans and the Titans are weaker than the gods. With Kratos being the strongest god by the end of the Greek trilogy. We also see Atlas holding the world and heavens on his shoulders (it falling would destroy all of creation which includes the underworld, Nyx's parallel dimension and everything else in the Greek world). Atlas is also weaker than Kratos by the end of the trilogy.
In the Norse games, we see Thor hit the World Serpent so hard that he's sent back in time. This happens because Thor's blow is strong enough to shake and splinter Yggdrasil, the world tree. Which holds all of existence on its branches. With each of its strands said to transcend space and time itself.
After that we see Freyr, a god weaker than Thor and Kratos, hold back the explosion which destroys Asgard (an infinite realm) for a solid minute. Infact he manages to completely block the first explosion and Surtr needs to stab his sword twice in order to get it past Freyr. He does this with a much weaker weapon than Mjölnir or Leviathan with them basically being called as super weapons in comparison. Not only did this explosion destroy Asgard but it also destroyed the branch of Yggdrasil holding it and then violently shook the entire tree.
Kratos' son, Atreus, who is a much weaker god than Kratos himself being just a teenager is then hit by said explosion basically point blank. He only gets knocked out with a head injury as a result.
@@arandomperson3840 Ok? Creation and attack potency are not the same thing. Atlas holding the world on his shoulders is also not the same as attack potency. Lift weight is not the same as punching power. Further more, Kratos never performed a feat of lifting the same kind of thing Atlas did. In addition, you are going off statements as far as if Heaven and Earth collided it would destroy everything.
Again, "said" is the key word. Statements taken literally.
And the infinite Asgard and the Yggdrasil points all that is still based off statements. Though, if Asgard is actually destroyed, depending on how its actually depicted, maybe I could be convinced to higher scaling than what I said.
@@ikeillue8385 as for speed multiple characters such as Hermes, Hercules, Persephone etc can react to Helios' light which was capable of illuminating the entire underworld. The underworld has been said to be infinite in size.
Most Titans were capable of moving in a timeless space since time was created when Cronos was born.
In the Norse games we have characters again reacting to the Asgard destroying explosion which was able to basically instantly destroy the entirety of Asgard which is again an infinite realm.
For supporting feats (this one isn't as concrete) we have Kratos reacting to a soul flying to the afterlife, in particular the soul of a wolf. This is relevant because the afterlife for animals is in another realm entirely. We know from another story that the souls which are not escorted by the Valkyries are capable of reaching the afterlife in a matter of hours at most. The realms themselves are located on completely different branches of the world tree with a single branch said to be stretching to infinity.
In god of war 2018 And god of war ragnarok he was Holding Back Alot
But not in god of war 1-3
God Of Destruction level
Kratos clears easily. Dragon ball verse only 2C .
How far would shiraori from so I'm a spider so what get spoilers from the light novels passed season 1
Shiraori was able to become a god after eating a magic bomb that could destroy a continent in the light novels Shiraori mentioned that the only way to beat a god is to make them waste all their energy or have soul base attacks to hurt them in the light novels Shiraori was able to fight shadow like beings for days without getting tired she could have ended them quickly but she didn't want to risk killing a sealed goddess that the shadow beings where protecting so she had to hold back but she was able to killed them with her scythe that could one shot because her weapon has a magic ability call rot attack leaving nothing behind. Shiraori also can't die before she became a God she was attack by a soul attack but she survived by transferring her soul in her spider clones after becoming a God she has her own pocket dimension where she can control the flow of time and she keeps items and her spider clones she even created different types of spider clones like meteor spider bullet that are used by opening a portal and by controlling the flow of time in her pocket dimension she make them do a lot damage, her spy spider clones are used to gather information and she can hear and see everything through her spider clones, she even has spider clones far hacking. Shiraori can also heal herself and she has the ability to absorb any form of energy she can even summon her spider clones to help her absorb more energy from her opponents she can destroy the planet if she really wants to since she can breathe in space the only reason why she didn't because she got really close to ariel the demon lord and her two classmates plus she was afraid of leaving the planet because she didn't want run into other gods. She was able to fight the dragon god by using her spider clones to take over his god boundary field that was nerfing her and shiraori was still giving the dragon god trouble because of her absorbing ability she would have won if she didn't stop the fight by telling him that the god name D was the one that was going to destroy the world. Shiraori can also use the god boundary field that will make her stronger and she can also use it to make her opponents weaker you can Google her if you want more information but the wiki doesn't have all her info from the light novels and the things she done. She wouldn't care if frieza destroyed the planet because she can survive in space and just recreate her body or use a spider clone in the light novel she let the dragon god tear her heart out and she wasn't even fase by it she let happen on purpose and she just used healing magic to create a new heart.
Freeza is not Galaxy level in Namek...
Wife and daughter man. Wife and daughter.
I agree with him being Frieza level.
Frieza can blow up the planet they are on and walk out perfectly fine since he can breathe in space.
I personally thought that Kratos was Battle of Gods level Goku.
At least
It took him weeks to get to the titan realm so i think he's not even close to saiyan saga speeds
Even if Katia were to die in dragon ball he’d find a way out of the after life for vengeance and get all the tools he needs for the job haha
That's sorta not true because dragon ball magic is significantly stronger so he might not be able to stop the kais or whatever other beings trying to stop him
Literally everyone in dragon ball comes back from the dead who cares
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y'know i don't think seth is the best idea nowadays
do the lego ninjago pls its a cool idea
YAYYY
How far would Steve from Minecraft get in Dragon Ball
Steve from what I'm aware of cannot reasonably be scaled due to Minecraft's weird physics.
@@helixsol7171 Haha, yeah, I'm aware. It would just be funny.
Kratos should be able breathe in space he a god and he shouldn’t need to eat or drink like that
U played the game say the names right
Kratos is outer with infinite speed as he beat thanatos who made an outerversal realm
Bro look at all his past videos. Hes stupid and the worst scaler there ever was on YT. He literally has no idea what hes talking about
Kratos is not outerversal
Stop talking about things you dont know about, he literally is and its been even stated that he is by the maker himself@@DannyLee-zv9gl
Low Complex multiversal at best but still it’s enough
@@DannyLee-zv9gl He scales above the Uranus who created an infinite layered infinite sized universe and some planes outside of it transend dimensionaliy and he also scales above thor who effected the world tree which transends time and space on a 5d scale
I wonder how far someone like escanor would get in dragon ball z
This.
@@Zeziliath I think it would be difficult to scale because he becomes invincible for one minute at noon each day
@@That1jeepcherokee exactly. Like, is it actual invincibility? Or is it invincibility to the point that no one in his own universe is strong enough to hurt him at that point. Also, are all battles taking place at noon? And if he gets to Frieza on Namek, which has like what, 4 suns? How strong does he get THEN? So many questions.
@@Zeziliath I really want him to make a video on this and my next question is can he even breathe in space
He is definetly on the list so Ill try to do him soon for sure
The hell is this it obvious Kratos will solo them all DB is not close to the level of GOW
@I-need-2-win he can kick Whis ass too.
Deutsche haben immer recht 👍
Ist er deutsch?
kratos is at least 5d at most outerversel
You mispronounced ares
Infinite speed and straight well
He go too far
Yawatch please man come on
If you wanna take his universal feat as equal to dragonball I'm saying he doesn't get past universe 6 vs 7 ark especially with the Kaioken
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