@@braiden4561 Did you do the 0g cave without the suit? There's a suit right at the entrance of the cave, and a sign next to it that says "remember to wear your suit".
Is that how you move the crystal orbs? With light? But you can have your flashlight off and still move them, right? I never thought about the "canon" reason they moved
@@wikalashnikov No, I believe they work off of sight, which matches with the other mechanics like quantum entanglement. However, in Echoes of the Eye, most technologies work off of light, following the other mechanics which I can't explain because of spoilers.
Interesting that you're loaded into the Eye of the Universe map with a suit by default, regardless of whether you had one or not. This speedrun must have never even occurred to them 😂
I think the contrary is true. The game is not beatable without the suit, so they did think of this speedrun and threw people who wanted to do it a bone
@@photon_break its unlikely that they thought of this speed-run, but fortunately it still works, because the eye is in a another game scene than the main game so it's always loaded the same regardless of what you did in the main game scene. So in that scene the player has the suit on in default, just excellent game-play programming.
@halo123proplem they thought of speed runs for a lot of parts for example locking how fast the sleep mechanic can be gone through so people with better machines wouldn't have an advantage etc. They talk about it in the ign speed run and making off outer wild video
Gives you suitless oxygen outside of the ship. This can also be achieved on white hole station, but then you get/keep some kind of weird momentum relative to the planets. Btw I really recommend thestrangepie's suitless max%, that has so many crazy strategies and is a massive achievement
The first time I actually got to the forge was by activating the switch to push it up then flying on the moving structure of the forge with my jetpack. I instantly figured out it was not the legit way lol
I didn't fully understand the warp pads when I first went there, so I raised the forge and then spent about ten minutes trying to wedge my ship between it and the roof. It eventually worked, but I knew I had to be doing something wrong
The vessel entrance doesn't have oxygen, so normally I would suffocate there without the suit. But by entering the forge then clipping out of it, I can "steal" the forge's oxygen to effectively get infinite oxygen.
Woah. You really feldspar'd this shit out of this run. Almost got stuck on the dead nomai, barely making it into the ship. Then how close the fish were to chomping you. Well done hatchling.
That's actually a speed tech, because the game ends when you die, and scout boosting like that moves you closer to death. It saves like 1 second or something.
Nice, and still a lot of time save to be made (getting the warp core in was a bit painful). Why didn't you go through the door in the vessel to get straight to the museum tho? I thought that was the faster way.
@@vibingwiththewind2889 that's correct. You only only have milliseconds to utilize the glitch until the clipmap updates. It's just an exploited oversight. Honestly when someone happens to find a way to cheese it, I'll be impressed
@@orionpisces5875I don't think that's true, you can look down and see your torso without a suit and you can definitely take pictures of yourself without a suit using hearthian cameras (I don't remember exactly how, but I know I've done it)
Come back in a month after forgetting all of this, you kind of just spoiled the biggest parts of the game by wartching this (still wouldnt be a bad experience if you did play it now though)
@@danielmilyutin9914 Just an exploit. It comes from hitting the entry trigger for the forge but not the exit trigger (because I clipped out). Basically tricking the game into thinking I'm still in the forge and giving me the forge's oxygen.
We pause the timer for sleep because the speed it goes at is hardware dependent (basically the game is turning off all visuals and running the physics simulation as fast as possible). This way, runners with worse machines are on an even playing field.
@@TPHRyan I don't know exactly how it works in the code, but I presume it's from hitting the entrance trigger but not the exit trigger, thus tricking the game into thinking you're still inside the forge. There's a bunch of other areas in the game that work similarly.
There is something inherently funny about a speedrun of a game where you physically cannot beat the game slower than 22 minutes
I had no idea you could push off objects like that in zero gravity that’s so cool
Me neither, shows how accustomed I am to suiting up in the game.
I read this before watching the video and didn't know what you meant so when it happened I literally gasped
you have to do it at the beginning of the game if you do 0 g cave before getting launch codes like your supposed to
@@braiden4561 you get a suit in the 0g cave
@@braiden4561 Did you do the 0g cave without the suit? There's a suit right at the entrance of the cave, and a sign next to it that says "remember to wear your suit".
When he moved the forge with the ships light. I never thought of that. What an amazing game
Is that how you move the crystal orbs? With light? But you can have your flashlight off and still move them, right? I never thought about the "canon" reason they moved
@@wikalashnikov No, I believe they work off of sight, which matches with the other mechanics like quantum entanglement. However, in Echoes of the Eye, most technologies work off of light, following the other mechanics which I can't explain because of spoilers.
It's not light, the nomai understood the concept of observance, and it is a large part of their tech
Interesting that you're loaded into the Eye of the Universe map with a suit by default, regardless of whether you had one or not. This speedrun must have never even occurred to them 😂
I think the contrary is true. The game is not beatable without the suit, so they did think of this speedrun and threw people who wanted to do it a bone
@@photon_break its unlikely that they thought of this speed-run, but fortunately it still works, because the eye is in a another game scene than the main game so it's always loaded the same regardless of what you did in the main game scene. So in that scene the player has the suit on in default, just excellent game-play programming.
@halo123proplem they thought of speed runs for a lot of parts for example locking how fast the sleep mechanic can be gone through so people with better machines wouldn't have an advantage etc. They talk about it in the ign speed run and making off outer wild video
Oh wow, forge bonk has gotten a lot more elegant since I last saw it. Great run! Also lol at the short irritation at 11:17
what does it do ?
Like, what's the purpose ?
Gives you suitless oxygen outside of the ship. This can also be achieved on white hole station, but then you get/keep some kind of weird momentum relative to the planets.
Btw I really recommend thestrangepie's suitless max%, that has so many crazy strategies and is a massive achievement
Thx !@@rouvey
The first time I actually got to the forge was by activating the switch to push it up then flying on the moving structure of the forge with my jetpack. I instantly figured out it was not the legit way lol
My good friend Vairedo also did it too !!!
ngl that was how i thought you were supposed to do it lol
I didn't fully understand the warp pads when I first went there, so I raised the forge and then spent about ten minutes trying to wedge my ship between it and the roof. It eventually worked, but I knew I had to be doing something wrong
Huge congrats on the leaderboard sweep!
Well done! What is the forge bonk part for?
Infinite oxygen.
The vessel entrance doesn't have oxygen, so normally I would suffocate there without the suit. But by entering the forge then clipping out of it, I can "steal" the forge's oxygen to effectively get infinite oxygen.
@Validsalid probably not, the only thing you retain after each loop is whatever you learn
@@ptminsker I guess it shows infinite oxygen is based on triggers and not “being close to a tree”…?
@@ptminsker Why couldn't you just take on the suit?
Woah. You really feldspar'd this shit out of this run. Almost got stuck on the dead nomai, barely making it into the ship. Then how close the fish were to chomping you. Well done hatchling.
Scout boosting to the end and looking away from explosions while at it 😅
That's actually a speed tech, because the game ends when you die, and scout boosting like that moves you closer to death. It saves like 1 second or something.
I never knew of the push off button because I was never in ZeroG without the suit. Savage.
7:35
Poked the hornets nest there
Didn't know you spawned with a suit in the eye
Nice, and still a lot of time save to be made (getting the warp core in was a bit painful). Why didn't you go through the door in the vessel to get straight to the museum tho? I thought that was the faster way.
You can only do that in the first few frames after warp and you can't build up the necessary momentum to reach it in time w/o the suit I believe.
@@vibingwiththewind2889 that's correct. You only only have milliseconds to utilize the glitch until the clipmap updates. It's just an exploited oversight. Honestly when someone happens to find a way to cheese it, I'll be impressed
What happens if a suitless version of yourself is teleported using the Ash Twin black hole??
It will still have a suit, there is no asset in game for a "suitless self" NPC
@@orionpisces5875I don't think that's true, you can look down and see your torso without a suit and you can definitely take pictures of yourself without a suit using hearthian cameras (I don't remember exactly how, but I know I've done it)
i always confuse this game with outer worlds, for a minute i was confused because I didn't recognize the game
You should play it, its great
Happens to the best of us. (Outer Wilds is way better tho, I'm definitely not biased)
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i didnt even know there was a push off button wow
all these speedruns make me wanna cry. cuz i cannot always do pixel perfect jumps every time.
nice run
11:00 what how did u get suit?
The game automatically equips the suit when you warp to the eye.
@@ptminsker ooooohhhhhh thx!😊
@@ptminsker It's like they don't trust us to not try and break their game. :(
@@TheMAZZTer I mean, they're right!
7:34 like a glove lol
dude literaly just kept his eyes on the prize.
Great job
As someone entirely unfamiliar with this game's speedrunning scene, what does clipping through the Forge's wall do for you?
Infinite oxygen so I don't suffocate entering vessel.
@ptminsker Oh, cool! I kind of thought that might be it when you floated around in the Vessel, but I wasn't sure
What was the point of even stopping at brittle hollow? Do you have to go inside the forge to beat the game?
Clipping out of the forge gives me infinite oxygen, which is necessary to reach the vessel since the tunnel doesn't have oxygen.
@@ptminsker Ahh! Gotcha!
Was the instant bonk at the start part of it?
No, that happened because I failed the frame perfect input for the double jump on the first try.
@@ptminsker Isn't that a run-breaker as it's so early?
@@chiffmonkey No, it loses like 2 seconds in a category that's very optimized.
Never heard of this game, never played it nor watched any of it. I got nothing about this Speedrun but looks fun
Come back in a month after forgetting all of this, you kind of just spoiled the biggest parts of the game by wartching this (still wouldnt be a bad experience if you did play it now though)
play now
Now You can play this game
dude play this game without watching this video again now ;)
Also, still taking the time to roast a Marshmello. 👌 Nice touch.
fucking sickkk
I'm missing something. Why bother about forge? Why not go right to bramble?
Clipping out of the forge gives me infinite oxygen, which is necessary to enter vessel.
@@ptminsker Thank you for the answer!
Is it by lore or just some exploit?
Looks like I've missed this part of story when played slow runs.
@@danielmilyutin9914 Just an exploit. It comes from hitting the entry trigger for the forge but not the exit trigger (because I clipped out). Basically tricking the game into thinking I'm still in the forge and giving me the forge's oxygen.
@@ptminsker Now strat is clear. Thanks! :-)
Is the timer supposed to stop while dozing off? Pretty sure that should still count as game time. But I don't know the speedrun rules.
We pause the timer for sleep because the speed it goes at is hardware dependent (basically the game is turning off all visuals and running the physics simulation as fast as possible). This way, runners with worse machines are on an even playing field.
what's the forge bonk for?
Clipping out of the forge gives me infinite oxygen, which lets me get into the vessel without suffocating.
@@ptminsker I deduced that would be why, is there a source explaining how that happens at all? Programmer brain be curious
@@TPHRyan I don't know exactly how it works in the code, but I presume it's from hitting the entrance trigger but not the exit trigger, thus tricking the game into thinking you're still inside the forge. There's a bunch of other areas in the game that work similarly.
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7:39
''suitless'' still pretty awesome
Push off??????????
god, i wish my computer could run this game
How come it doesn't?
If you can't run THAT, it's a sign to buy a new computer.
@@pewienczlowiekag3111 or something that's not a mac
run it in 720p, low graphics, high battery performance in your computer settings