In Lapindo, Indonesia, there is a pit of mud which come from failed drilling of gasses and oil exploration. The area of the pit is more than 2.5 square miles. It has emitted massive metana gas since 2006.
My great grandfather was a miner in Butte. My mom and her siblings all grew up there. I visited my grandfather there once when I was 8. Butte was old, and quiet and seemed so sad. My mother took me to see the Pit. It was a tourist attraction, which just felt... Worse.
did u ever do your own sampling of groundwater there? i got a hundo that says they lieing and the groundwater has been contaminated for half a century lol
@@northwestalternativemedia2125 im a geologist and I live in butte. The groundwater was contaminated millions of years before mankind ever set foot here. The rocks the ground is made of themself are whats causing the problem. The sulfides in the rock react with water and oxygen and break down, creating acid and liberating heavy metals in the minerals.
My dad and family grow up next to a superfund site. A corrupt guy took toxic waste from all the big corporations (AT&T, GE, Ford, Square D, etc...) and literally dumped it on the road on rainy nights, buried it, let it soak in the ground, and piped it into the local creek. Because of his business and government connections, noone would do anything. Eventually he was charged, but was easily able to flee the country to live wealthy in Central America. For decades my family had to deal with the aftermath with no help. We learned very quickly that the government and businesses will easily put money over your life if they can get away with it.
@@jimmyjimjim3054 you missed the part where he wasn't found to be criminal for a long time and was able to flee justice and keep his wealth because he was making money for everyone involved by dumping the waste into the lives of everyone else.
8:49 oh my god, I was sipping a drink when the woman presented "MORE ACID THAN WOODSTOCK" and I literally sprayed lemonade all over my bedroom laughing so hard! 😂 😂
@@Kremithefrog1 That's the thing, they can only recommend the DOJ enforce the laws. Then the paperwork gets misplaced unless it absolutely can't be swept under the rug. It's always been about the money.
@@Kremithefrog1 Yeah, I've seen that too. I saw Frontline documentary on the EPA years ago, with interviews from former employees talking about how they were forced to approve certain things that were clearly wrong. The pressure always came from the White House, regardless of which party was there. Had more to do with the company's relationship with the sitting President.
me, a geologist used to work at many superfund sites in west coast. I still remember my professor talked about these places. she said, superfund is super fun. She's right. specially when you writing a report and working with the consulting firm on addressing the issue to the site owner and local regulation department. gotta write something goes like, this site is really bad, but its not that bad. I mean you gotta let the official know that these people screwed up but the language needs to be mild enough so that they dont loose their job. stuff like, this arsenic contamination is lethal. it hurt but wont kill so, dont shut their shop people loose job not good, but do tell them they are bad guys.
@@skyhappy usually get a fat fine depend on how much tax they pay and how much local worker there. I worked on a barrel recycling place. their waste tank was leaking. had a whole bunch benzene and gas leached out into the soil. Had their entire place dug up. like 20ft soil transported to desert. the owner didnt pay much for this since the shop went bankrupt. on the other hand, Tesla Fremont plant was fined 3mil for leaching toxic stuff. there was another lab in San Jose. I think they had some radioactive stuff out into the soil. they werent charged much. not really sure whats going on with them. I heard it was something like uranium isotope. never had any drink around that place ever since. conspiracy or not. stuff is nasty in my industry.
Yeah, as somebody who as lived in Butte his entire life, it's nothing pretty to look at. Lots of history for tourists, but the rest of it isn't good. Lots of drugs and alcohol issues as well as structural worries due to the underground mines.
This channel should do an episode about the mica mine in Libby Montana that poisoned not only the entire town with airborne asbestos but hundreds of thousands of homes around the country, with Vermiculite mica used as blown-in insulation for walls and attics. See the book "An Air That Kills".
Just imagine what is the codition in China, the main reason mining and extraction of minerals and elements went to China is because rich countries decided to get ride of these consequences and China happily accepted.
Wish you guys did coverage here in Selangor, Malaysia. We always get water cuts since the rivers always get polluted somehow. Since we are a developing country, there is definitely corruption at play. But i am curious as to how the cleanup for our water sources, since it happens once every few months or so.
A good example of how reasonable regulation can improve economic development. The lack of oversight is costing billions, and that doesn't count money lost in health and exploitation.
Yeah but now the all the mining is done in developing countries where regulations are most like never going to develop. It's like the oil industry it's bad here but anywhere else it's worse
I work in a Lead Plant in the Air Quality Systems . We have baghouses that have filtration bags and all , 38 baghouses to be exact, and they pull from the air off the furnaces. Nothing but arsenic and lead and many other things but those being the worst. And we wear respirators every day all 8 hours just like the guy in beginning of video and the white tyvek suits. We have to take showers everyday before going home. Most people's lead content in their body are about 1-3. Mine right now Is 27. Which actually isnt bad . To keep pollution down they do a whole bunch of acid washes and shit after the air comes through the baghouses . And they have air quality meters set up on the other side of the street of the plant. Biggest lead smelting place in the WORLD. Called Sanders Lead Co
wtf are you talking? Tourist attraction? Is that all you see here? You people have no concern about the environment and you will suffer sooner or later.
Now after the car industry switching to electricity imagine all the mining for material used for battery and will be doing the same thing in 10-20 years from now cleaning the mess we left from the mining
I'm posting to tell you that I've seen the future...no cars period. A minister in Boris Johnson's government in England announced that in the future they are going to ban all personal vehicles...ICE vehicles and E.V.'s. So there won't be much more mining for battery materials. Full disclosure...I work in a nickel mine in Manitoba, Canada that is in talks with Elon Musk to supply nickel for his E.V.'s.
@@lmb5529bml Why don't you find that interview and listen to it yourself. The E.V. will be just as dead as the ICE vehicle. And the reason is because they already know from the green energy disaster that is Germany, that there will never be enough power available to charge all those batteries.
I had family living in butte, namely my great grandparents where my great grandfather worked as a rail engineer. Since I was a kid I always looked at the pit and these rigs as engineering marvels, not knowing till now just how much impact all that had. But I still cant help respect the work of men like my great grandfather, who even stayed behind in japan to help reconstruct rail infrastructure, and worked until he couldn't supporting his family. He's even immortalized in the Butte museum of mining. RIP Leno Bazzanella
One small positive in this proverbial mountain of negatives is that some technologies developed to deal with remediating toxic soil may be useful for dealing with the toxic soil on Mars, and possibly techniques to remediate large volumes of acidic water could be useful if we ever make it to Venus. Humans are a persistent and innovative bunch. We might create a lot of problems, but we're also pretty good at coming up with solutions to those problems. Overall I'm optimistic for our future, we've just gotta be more careful when it comes to considering the 'what if' and long term aspects of everything we do, from climate and environmental impact to societal impacts. It all matters.
Dude we are not on Mars yet and it will be at least a century before we have any truly self sustaining population there. And even then there will still be a ton more people to care about back on earth. Mars is a low priority on the infinite list of things to do for human well being.
Wow I searched the government site and I’ve know that there’s an army plant 3 miles away but didn’t know the group water was contaminated with toxic metals and depleted uranium that’s always wonderful to see
The pit happens to be a site where polluted water from mining is visually discernible. The issue extends to the mining district including around Anaconda MT where heavy metals will indefinitely contaminate the waterway all the way to the Pacific. Water borne pollution also transits through MT from Canadian mining eg. selenium leaching from coal mine tailings.
If one treatment plant is just keeping the water level fairly even, then why don’t they build another plant? It may be 90 million but if it gains employment for local people and help reduce and produce clean water for the wild. Good luck with the cleanup, hope it makes a difference…phil. 🇬🇧
I thought that too, but that really seems like something you'd have to trust the authorities on. If it were leaching into the water table then the amount of bodies piling up due to contaminated water would be a national scandal equal to or greater than Flint, Michigan.
Well if the water table is supplying the lake, what makes you think the water from the lake will make it into the water table? Is the flow not coming *out* of the water table?
@@Bob_Lob_Law I was thinking more that if the rock is pourus enough to enable the mine to flood in the first place it suggests it is pourus enough for contaminated water to escape back into the water table.
so whats happening is right behind the pit (about 70 or so feet above the rim) there is a lake, and the water just flows down through the mining site and into the shafts, gets the chemicals into it, then it flows up through the shafts. it doesnt penetrate because its still under hard bedrock. ~50 feet above the currect water level is where bedrock ends.
@@Eristhenes yes yes lol it’s republicans that are for big corps. Not like every single democrat congressman is a multi millionaire (after getting in). Not like liberals are now pro big pharmaceutical. Or shutting down small business, while propping up Walmart and Amazon It’s those darn republicans!!!
1. America has a huge problem with wastes. This is a huge hole perfect to be filled with rubbish and in the end, a layer of soil would cover it up. 2. One of the best plants is bamboo. Moso bamboo survives even -20C. The root network keeps the soil protected and the plant grows fast and covers the entire place. After a few years, you could have ongoing sustainable timber harvest. 3. I understand it is probably too expensive to use the black floating balls. What about styrofoam sheets?
Just one to provide some feedback on the interesting suggestions you gave. Firstly, the video said it was too large to cover up with rubbish and also, where would all the water go? The lake is 456 acres large. That is roughly 430 football fields. Second, while bamboo may be good at surviving in -20c, it is not suited for the high PH that is found near the pit. Finally, for the styrofoam sheets, it is again very expensive to use (many football fields of styrofoam), not very durable at all (one tear and it can start drifting apart), and bad for the environment.
@@darksilence6930 First the video said it is too big to be filled with soil not garbage. The bigger the better, more rubbish can be put there. Second the layer of soil buffers from the water 20 meters below. BTW I have a PhD in plant biotechnology, try not to teach me about these things. Third the water doesnt need to go anywhere. Where do you think it was before? Fourth Styrofoam are almost all air and produced very cheaply. Also durable. Have you ever seen a Styrofoam rots?
Tucson had theirs courtesy of US air force pit two hundred feet wide half mile long old fiel oil..coolant...went into ground water every well contaminated.......remember the air force is our brightest and best the US can be
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Interesting. I have a lump sum doing absolutely nothing at all in my bank account, I wanna get something started with it. You seem to be doing excellent for yourself, how do you achieve this?
1.54 we now waiting grandfather Mantis chosen son plan end of january. The First ditset. We failid to protected Him but he never forgotten his legend plan.
An hour outside of DC near my MIL a cement plant closed down a large public park (apparently they always owned the land) and multiple baseball fields to expand and send materials into the city...
When? 1000 years from now? If we are capable of going to mars and actually living legitimately, we’d be more than capable of cleaning up anything wrong with earth. And by that time, we’d have come up with quite a lot of tech for power generation, as well as cleanup. Stop with the end of the world nonsense.
@@crf80fdarkdays he’s living a lot, but not for very long. I’d rather live a normal amount, but well. Think he’s living well? Think eating burgers and donuts is worth the cost?
@@jamesbizs "not for long" um, he looks in his 50s at least, so he's doing all right...."living well" is an illusion...we all choose but some things can't be chosen...my son passed at 20 from an unknown enlarged heart, looked fit, on the college basketball team...just didn't wake up one day....I say do what makes you happy while you are here since no one is guaranteed a lengthy life, up to you to make a fulfilling one for yourself...
@@jamesbizs also healthcare both physical and mental is fucked, I live in Australia and we have a bad suicide rate because of this governments inability to care for its citizens properly. It's a wonder we don't have more people go on liking sprees
Well if you're gonna put it that way! You don't know how many towns the aquifer beneath Butte serves. If they shut off those machines I doubt it will only be one town that goes extinct due to contaminated water.
Humans with their curiosity are paying the price. I guess it’s the law of the universe. 30 basic quantum particles and fields created elements which are laws we live by. You have to pay the price for knowledge.
"... didn't know the effects toxic waste would have..." Oh, they knew. They just didn't care because they knew they'd never have to face the consequences.
Disaster, once you take the soil a mix it, its difficult to establish native trees , plants and grasses. Let alone draining the pit. Drain it, lay a massive liner like landfills
@@vice.nor.virtue If we can spend 3 Trillion on an Infustruture Bill, put humans in space.......Pumps been around for ever, ever sceen New Orleans Pumping Stations, they are below sea level and have a combined sewer system🤷♂️🤔
@@michaeltabanao9014 so, in other words, you DID miss the part where they explained that not only is the pit too large to put a plastic liner, but also the fact that there is 10,000 miles of tunnels that can’t be easily resolved? Sorry did I miss anything? Oh wait no I didn’t. If you have a degree in environmental chemistry the by all means get in touch with the local council…. But if you don’t welll… let them do their damn jobs, okay.
It's because that would cost an obscene amount of money. There were 700 million tons of waste removed from the pit, and the cost would be several dollars per ton to move again back to the pit = $2 billion to do this.
They are actually attempting this in Yerington Nevada, USA. But as Kornerson said, for a pit so large is isn’t feasible (it would most likely cost more than a few bucks a ton and would take many years).
Destructive as it is, I think it's great that you can see the whole problem in one place. Like, it's one huge lake. When it comes to shaft mining, I think the out of sight out of mind problem could be even worse.
There's actually a whole host of extremophile heavy metal absorbing plants they could use for "biomining". They kind of touch on that the potential for plants to absorb the metals but they don't really go into a lot of detail.
@@Totalinternalreflection his comment was a bit weird. But he still makes a good point. Mining so that we can push “clean” electric power, is extremely dirty.
At one point in time, the smog was so thick, that the street lights would switch on in the middle of the day and people would drop dead while walking to work.
They don't shoot the birds, they actually shoot the water near the birds to scare them away. This channel did another video about the guys whose job it is to scare away the birds. I grew up in Dillon, Montana, which is about an hour south of Butte. There were incidents where big flocks of birds landed on the water in the Berkeley Pit and died. I remember one incident in particular involving migrating snow geese. It was heartbreaking. Those poor birds died terrible deaths.
In nature sligthly acidig rain will break up rock and then bacteria and fungy will start eating it. Maybe its possible to neutralise the waste rock by adding a ton of bacteria and funky.
I know thats alot of water to clean up but hear me out of an idea. why not try distilling it/ boil it in a pot and letting the air evaporate? you can get the material out this way tho its alot harder then getting in soild form, you just have to make it solid again. I have heard of people making products out of sulfur so it is possible to make money out of it. I am only giving out ideas so if they don't work we can always try something else that will. :3
Another Picher Oklahoma... sad.. Picher oklahoma, declared most toxic town in America by the EPA.. hope they get your town cleaned up and not just kick everyone out like they did to the residents of Picher Oklahoma.. :/
In Lapindo, Indonesia, there is a pit of mud which come from failed drilling of gasses and oil exploration. The area of the pit is more than 2.5 square miles. It has emitted massive metana gas since 2006.
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*Sidoarjo
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that's what you get
@@deeperinsider2544 wtf🤦♂️
My great grandfather was a miner in Butte. My mom and her siblings all grew up there.
I visited my grandfather there once when I was 8. Butte was old, and quiet and seemed so sad. My mother took me to see the Pit. It was a tourist attraction, which just felt... Worse.
okay and
did u ever do your own sampling of groundwater there? i got a hundo that says they lieing and the groundwater has been contaminated for half a century lol
Well damn. Thatvs a depressing experience. Mining and industrial towns never get the fair treatment they deserve from the people who run the show.
@@northwestalternativemedia2125 im a geologist and I live in butte. The groundwater was contaminated millions of years before mankind ever set foot here. The rocks the ground is made of themself are whats causing the problem. The sulfides in the rock react with water and oxygen and break down, creating acid and liberating heavy metals in the minerals.
My dad and family grow up next to a superfund site. A corrupt guy took toxic waste from all the big corporations (AT&T, GE, Ford, Square D, etc...) and literally dumped it on the road on rainy nights, buried it, let it soak in the ground, and piped it into the local creek. Because of his business and government connections, noone would do anything. Eventually he was charged, but was easily able to flee the country to live wealthy in Central America. For decades my family had to deal with the aftermath with no help. We learned very quickly that the government and businesses will easily put money over your life if they can get away with it.
Thats how capitalism works.
@@justsomecommie2638 No, that's how criminals work.
@@jimmyjimjim3054 Criminals work under capitalism like that.
@@jimmyjimjim3054 you missed the part where he wasn't found to be criminal for a long time and was able to flee justice and keep his wealth because he was making money for everyone involved by dumping the waste into the lives of everyone else.
@@GoingtoHecq I didn't miss it. And you're right, that's terrible.
I’m really liking this series, World Wide Waste. It’s also really informative
Ikr
depleted uranium from our military should be at the top of the list.
8:49 oh my god, I was sipping a drink when the woman presented "MORE ACID THAN WOODSTOCK" and I literally sprayed lemonade all over my bedroom laughing so hard! 😂 😂
Very informative. It shows the need for the EPA to be given more enforcement authority. Something they have been lacking since their founding.
You should look into all the times the EPA has allowed toxic dumping, etc even when they had the authority. It's all about money.
@@Kremithefrog1 That's the thing, they can only recommend the DOJ enforce the laws. Then the paperwork gets misplaced unless it absolutely can't be swept under the rug. It's always been about the money.
@@joe.oneill I should have said approved instead of allowed.
@@Kremithefrog1 Yeah, I've seen that too. I saw Frontline documentary on the EPA years ago, with interviews from former employees talking about how they were forced to approve certain things that were clearly wrong.
The pressure always came from the White House, regardless of which party was there. Had more to do with the company's relationship with the sitting President.
me, a geologist used to work at many superfund sites in west coast. I still remember my professor talked about these places. she said, superfund is super fun. She's right. specially when you writing a report and working with the consulting firm on addressing the issue to the site owner and local regulation department. gotta write something goes like, this site is really bad, but its not that bad. I mean you gotta let the official know that these people screwed up but the language needs to be mild enough so that they dont loose their job. stuff like, this arsenic contamination is lethal. it hurt but wont kill so, dont shut their shop people loose job not good, but do tell them they are bad guys.
So what happens to the company, slap on the wrist?
@@skyhappy usually get a fat fine depend on how much tax they pay and how much local worker there.
I worked on a barrel recycling place. their waste tank was leaking. had a whole bunch benzene and gas leached out into the soil.
Had their entire place dug up. like 20ft soil transported to desert. the owner didnt pay much for this since the shop went bankrupt.
on the other hand, Tesla Fremont plant was fined 3mil for leaching toxic stuff. there was another lab in San Jose. I think they had some radioactive stuff out into the soil. they werent charged much. not really sure whats going on with them. I heard it was something like uranium isotope. never had any drink around that place ever since.
conspiracy or not. stuff is nasty in my industry.
i drove through Butte in 1975, i thought it was one of the ugliest places i'd ever seen; and i had been through Bakersfield, CA in 1963.
What was that like ?
@@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST Uglier?
Bako is horrible. I used to have to go there for business. Nothing but a buncha meth heads.
Yeah, as somebody who as lived in Butte his entire life, it's nothing pretty to look at. Lots of history for tourists, but the rest of it isn't good. Lots of drugs and alcohol issues as well as structural worries due to the underground mines.
This channel should do an episode about the mica mine in Libby Montana that poisoned not only the entire town with airborne asbestos but hundreds of thousands of homes around the country, with Vermiculite mica used as blown-in insulation for walls and attics. See the book "An Air That Kills".
Just imagine what is the codition in China, the main reason mining and extraction of minerals and elements went to China is because rich countries decided to get ride of these consequences and China happily accepted.
🙄🙄🙄 China again?
@@cheesecakelover6692 yes. And?
Wish you guys did coverage here in Selangor, Malaysia. We always get water cuts since the rivers always get polluted somehow.
Since we are a developing country, there is definitely corruption at play. But i am curious as to how the cleanup for our water sources, since it happens once every few months or so.
haha.. jangan bro jangan
My ex is from there. That explains a lot 😂🤣
Make your own video would be better
It's all over Asia unfortunately. I live in Indonesia the tap water sometimes makes you itch
Or shine the spotlight on deals our ruling monarchy does to strip Malaysia of its natural resources for their own gain and not the people of Malaysia
A good example of how reasonable regulation can improve economic development. The lack of oversight is costing billions, and that doesn't count money lost in health and exploitation.
Yeah but now the all the mining is done in developing countries where regulations are most like never going to develop. It's like the oil industry it's bad here but anywhere else it's worse
I work in a Lead Plant in the Air Quality Systems . We have baghouses that have filtration bags and all , 38 baghouses to be exact, and they pull from the air off the furnaces. Nothing but arsenic and lead and many other things but those being the worst. And we wear respirators every day all 8 hours just like the guy in beginning of video and the white tyvek suits. We have to take showers everyday before going home. Most people's lead content in their body are about 1-3. Mine right now Is 27. Which actually isnt bad . To keep pollution down they do a whole bunch of acid washes and shit after the air comes through the baghouses . And they have air quality meters set up on the other side of the street of the plant. Biggest lead smelting place in the WORLD. Called Sanders Lead Co
This is a good story. Cleanup in progress. Health improving and even a tourist attraction!
wtf are you talking? Tourist attraction? Is that all you see here? You people have no concern about the environment and you will suffer sooner or later.
Now after the car industry switching to electricity imagine all the mining for material used for battery and will be doing the same thing in 10-20 years from now cleaning the mess we left from the mining
I'm posting to tell you that I've seen the future...no cars period. A minister in Boris Johnson's government in England announced that in the future they are going to ban all personal vehicles...ICE vehicles and E.V.'s. So there won't be much more mining for battery materials. Full disclosure...I work in a nickel mine in Manitoba, Canada that is in talks with Elon Musk to supply nickel for his E.V.'s.
@@markanthony3275 Good luck with that future becoming real
Yeah lithium mines are pretty bad. Major pollution to soil and water.
And you thing mining all the materials for combustion engines isn’t as bad?
@@lmb5529bml Why don't you find that interview and listen to it yourself. The E.V. will be just as dead as the ICE vehicle. And the reason is because they already know from the green energy disaster that is Germany, that there will never be enough power available to charge all those batteries.
I had family living in butte, namely my great grandparents where my great grandfather worked as a rail engineer. Since I was a kid I always looked at the pit and these rigs as engineering marvels, not knowing till now just how much impact all that had. But I still cant help respect the work of men like my great grandfather, who even stayed behind in japan to help reconstruct rail infrastructure, and worked until he couldn't supporting his family. He's even immortalized in the Butte museum of mining. RIP Leno Bazzanella
One small positive in this proverbial mountain of negatives is that some technologies developed to deal with remediating toxic soil may be useful for dealing with the toxic soil on Mars, and possibly techniques to remediate large volumes of acidic water could be useful if we ever make it to Venus. Humans are a persistent and innovative bunch. We might create a lot of problems, but we're also pretty good at coming up with solutions to those problems. Overall I'm optimistic for our future, we've just gotta be more careful when it comes to considering the 'what if' and long term aspects of everything we do, from climate and environmental impact to societal impacts. It all matters.
Dude we are not on Mars yet and it will be at least a century before we have any truly self sustaining population there.
And even then there will still be a ton more people to care about back on earth. Mars is a low priority on the infinite list of things to do for human well being.
Wow I searched the government site and I’ve know that there’s an army plant 3 miles away but didn’t know the group water was contaminated with toxic metals and depleted uranium that’s always wonderful to see
Evil Knievel is buried in Butte. His gravestone, and the Copper King Mansion, are probably the two coolest things in Butte.
The pit happens to be a site where polluted water from mining is visually discernible. The issue extends to the mining district including around Anaconda MT where heavy metals will indefinitely contaminate the waterway all the way to the Pacific. Water borne pollution also transits through MT from Canadian mining eg. selenium leaching from coal mine tailings.
Really hope that the digging company DOESN T bankrupt,otherwise who would pay for this superfunds
The taxpayers
"More acid than Woodstock" is perfect, and I need that shirt
If one treatment plant is just keeping the water level fairly even, then why don’t they build another plant? It may be 90 million but if it gains employment for local people and help reduce and produce clean water for the wild. Good luck with the cleanup, hope it makes a difference…phil. 🇬🇧
For everyone who's anti government, this is why government is important. They created the superfund and enforce it.
They also allowed the problem to happen in the first place
Don't worry about it, when Trump gets in. The problem will disappear.
If the shafts flooded up to the point the lake formed, i think it's fair to say the water in the shafts is already seeping into the water table.
I thought that too, but that really seems like something you'd have to trust the authorities on. If it were leaching into the water table then the amount of bodies piling up due to contaminated water would be a national scandal equal to or greater than Flint, Michigan.
Well if the water table is supplying the lake, what makes you think the water from the lake will make it into the water table?
Is the flow not coming *out* of the water table?
@@Bob_Lob_Law I was thinking more that if the rock is pourus enough to enable the mine to flood in the first place it suggests it is pourus enough for contaminated water to escape back into the water table.
so whats happening is right behind the pit (about 70 or so feet above the rim) there is a lake, and the water just flows down through the mining site and into the shafts, gets the chemicals into it, then it flows up through the shafts. it doesnt penetrate because its still under hard bedrock. ~50 feet above the currect water level is where bedrock ends.
Boy that’s stories as depressing as Butte Montana.
Does this sentence make sense? Ten people liked it so i feel like it's colloquial grammar that I'm not understanding.
Can they mine the water? Get the metal out?
I’m moving there to have free attic cleaning. What a deal
Nice, factual, quick to the point video.
Here in germany we flood former mining sites to create a seascape for birds and waterlife.
That’s cool except you can’t do that with water-soluble pits. You get a lake of acid, a lake of lead, or worse
We are the worst thing that happened to this planet
Border Collies Should Thin Us Out A Bit…
Hey Beavis... Uhhhh huh huh he said there's a toxic pit in America's Butte... huh huh
This demonstrate the kind of damage that greed can do to the environment and the society.
Nice that the clean up is not paid by the US public.
Not yet, anyway. No doubt Republicans will allow corporations to roll back EPA protections though their exhaustive and lucrative lobbying efforts.
@@Eristhenes yes yes lol it’s republicans that are for big corps. Not like every single democrat congressman is a multi millionaire (after getting in). Not like liberals are now pro big pharmaceutical. Or shutting down small business, while propping up Walmart and Amazon It’s those darn republicans!!!
“One candle”, second later, shows a video with a light bulb hanging every few feet.
1. America has a huge problem with wastes. This is a huge hole perfect to be filled with rubbish and in the end, a layer of soil would cover it up.
2. One of the best plants is bamboo. Moso bamboo survives even -20C. The root network keeps the soil protected and the plant grows fast and covers the entire place. After a few years, you could have ongoing sustainable timber harvest.
3. I understand it is probably too expensive to use the black floating balls. What about styrofoam sheets?
Just one to provide some feedback on the interesting suggestions you gave.
Firstly, the video said it was too large to cover up with rubbish and also, where would all the water go? The lake is 456 acres large. That is roughly 430 football fields. Second, while bamboo may be good at surviving in -20c, it is not suited for the high PH that is found near the pit. Finally, for the styrofoam sheets, it is again very expensive to use (many football fields of styrofoam), not very durable at all (one tear and it can start drifting apart), and bad for the environment.
@@darksilence6930
First the video said it is too big to be filled with soil not garbage. The bigger the better, more rubbish can be put there.
Second the layer of soil buffers from the water 20 meters below. BTW I have a PhD in plant biotechnology, try not to teach me about these things.
Third the water doesnt need to go anywhere. Where do you think it was before?
Fourth Styrofoam are almost all air and produced very cheaply. Also durable. Have you ever seen a Styrofoam rots?
i live here and -20 is optimistic for mid jan-march. we usually get several -40 days a year
Y’all are like the new vice covering so many small and unique issues
Amazing and thanks for sharing this beautiful info
Great video as always :) I enjoyed the full video :)...
It really sux that the average person gotta deal with that enviormental disaster.
Tucson had theirs courtesy of US air force pit two hundred feet wide half mile long old fiel oil..coolant...went into ground water every well contaminated.......remember the air force is our brightest and best the US can be
Lol I knew it was butte just from the title alone
This was a wonderful video overall
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Please do you trade on your own ?
Wow, Is amazing to see people who have also invested with Frank donald. I thought am the only one he has helped through this rough market.
I like this channel alot.
How can a company that makes billions on a finite resource not expect that resource to run dry.
Think i just saw another video about the people keeping birds off the lake, not sure if that was you guys too, but very interesting content.
1.54 we now waiting grandfather Mantis chosen son plan end of january. The First ditset. We failid to protected Him but he never forgotten his legend plan.
sounds like my city in a city building game
I watched some yt video which say, every soil ground problem can be fixed by plants, just pick right spectrum!
I would argue Hanford is America's biggest environmental issue and cleanup task.
Strip mining needs to be outlawed. PERIOD!
Where do you think the metal in the device you are on comes from? It comes from these mines, and these pits.
Its a cool town to visit, a ton of history there.
An hour outside of DC near my MIL a cement plant closed down a large public park (apparently they always owned the land) and multiple baseball fields to expand and send materials into the city...
When people start living on Mars, they'll pay big money to visit Earth on death tourism.
When? 1000 years from now? If we are capable of going to mars and actually living legitimately, we’d be more than capable of cleaning up anything wrong with earth. And by that time, we’d have come up with quite a lot of tech for power generation, as well as cleanup. Stop with the end of the world nonsense.
Dude looks like he's about two cheese burgers away from a heart attack. And he's concerned about dust 😂😂😂
Healthy people die too, why not live a little?
@@crf80fdarkdays he’s living a lot, but not for very long. I’d rather live a normal amount, but well. Think he’s living well? Think eating burgers and donuts is worth the cost?
@@jamesbizs "not for long" um, he looks in his 50s at least, so he's doing all right...."living well" is an illusion...we all choose but some things can't be chosen...my son passed at 20 from an unknown enlarged heart, looked fit, on the college basketball team...just didn't wake up one day....I say do what makes you happy while you are here since no one is guaranteed a lengthy life, up to you to make a fulfilling one for yourself...
@@jamesbizs also healthcare both physical and mental is fucked, I live in Australia and we have a bad suicide rate because of this governments inability to care for its citizens properly.
It's a wonder we don't have more people go on liking sprees
Once the machines shut off, the city will essentially be abandoned.
Well if you're gonna put it that way! You don't know how many towns the aquifer beneath Butte serves. If they shut off those machines I doubt it will only be one town that goes extinct due to contaminated water.
Excellent reporting - thank you!
Humans with their curiosity are paying the price. I guess it’s the law of the universe. 30 basic quantum particles and fields created elements which are laws we live by. You have to pay the price for knowledge.
"... didn't know the effects toxic waste would have..." Oh, they knew. They just didn't care because they knew they'd never have to face the consequences.
Thank you for videos like this. Keep up the good work!
Live right next to a rock quarry. Can't keep a damn thing clean outside or inside
People talking about wanting to jump in don't work with copper much. I can visibly see the copper sulfate in that water.
Disaster, once you take the soil a mix it, its difficult to establish native trees , plants and grasses. Let alone draining the pit. Drain it, lay a massive liner like landfills
Did you miss the explanation with diagrams about the part where there is 10,000 miles of mining tunnels underneath the pit which have totally flooded?
@@vice.nor.virtue If we can spend 3 Trillion on an Infustruture Bill, put humans in space.......Pumps been around for ever, ever sceen New Orleans Pumping Stations, they are below sea level and have a combined sewer system🤷♂️🤔
@@michaeltabanao9014 so, in other words, you DID miss the part where they explained that not only is the pit too large to put a plastic liner, but also the fact that there is 10,000 miles of tunnels that can’t be easily resolved? Sorry did I miss anything? Oh wait no I didn’t. If you have a degree in environmental chemistry the by all means get in touch with the local council…. But if you don’t welll… let them do their damn jobs, okay.
Lithium batteries for green electric vehicles will do the same thing.
Butte is heaven to fans of dystopian fiction.
And meth
This is what the Story of Stuff is talking about - the issue of overconsumption.
Damn the government actually does something successful once in a while
It’s very sad for environment.
Question - why dont they scrape/remove the top soil and waste rock thats been dumped, and put it back into the pit?
It's because that would cost an obscene amount of money. There were 700 million tons of waste removed from the pit, and the cost would be several dollars per ton to move again back to the pit = $2 billion to do this.
They are actually attempting this in Yerington Nevada, USA. But as Kornerson said, for a pit so large is isn’t feasible (it would most likely cost more than a few bucks a ton and would take many years).
More Acid than Woodstock is definitely very funny.
If they filter just enough water so that it doesn’t over flow...why not filter more till it’s gone?
Save for the future.
Don’t buy any property near a retention pond…. Sometimes they have high levels of Lead…. Plenty of them in Indiana
4:55 my local landfill in Onalaska, WI is a superfund site, so that's fun...
This is why open pit mining should be illegal
Destructive as it is, I think it's great that you can see the whole problem in one place. Like, it's one huge lake. When it comes to shaft mining, I think the out of sight out of mind problem could be even worse.
Also shaft mining is, in general, more dangerous.
Why don't you plant copper absorbing trees around the town to also make a new industry
There's actually a whole host of extremophile heavy metal absorbing plants they could use for "biomining". They kind of touch on that the potential for plants to absorb the metals but they don't really go into a lot of detail.
Looks like they were mining clean energy for electric cars. This is great for the environment, carbon
What?
Lol well, no. The wires for those cars, yes. The mines for electric cars is much much worse.
@@Totalinternalreflection his comment was a bit weird. But he still makes a good point. Mining so that we can push “clean” electric power, is extremely dirty.
At one point in time, the smog was so thick, that the street lights would switch on in the middle of the day and people would drop dead while walking to work.
They should also try planting lavender. Those plants apparently like bad soil
HEYDAY, PLAY DAY ... MAY DAY MAY DAY! THERE ARE ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES
The state of Montana's ecology will never recover from what business did to it.
Im almost certain this is gettting sprayed on gmo crops, and fed to the population. I can garuntee they are using it to make construction materials
All water is recycled water, and anyhow everyone uses the same water for gmo & non gmo crops.
Seen another video, some dude has a job to shoot towards birds to scare them off the lake
Bro if they shoot the birds doesn't it defeat the purpose of saving them.
They don't shoot the birds, they actually shoot the water near the birds to scare them away. This channel did another video about the guys whose job it is to scare away the birds.
I grew up in Dillon, Montana, which is about an hour south of Butte. There were incidents where big flocks of birds landed on the water in the Berkeley Pit and died. I remember one incident in particular involving migrating snow geese. It was heartbreaking. Those poor birds died terrible deaths.
No they don’t shoot the birds, but even if they would.
They would save the birds from a slow and painful death.
Kalimantan timur banyak lubang tambang batubara nih.. tolong buat superfund juga dong bu Sri Mulyani
In nature sligthly acidig rain will break up rock and then bacteria and fungy will start eating it. Maybe its possible to neutralise the waste rock by adding a ton of bacteria and funky.
The future of Grassberg mine
I know thats alot of water to clean up but hear me out of an idea. why not try distilling it/ boil it in a pot and letting the air evaporate? you can get the material out this way tho its alot harder then getting in soild form, you just have to make it solid again. I have heard of people making products out of sulfur so it is possible to make money out of it.
I am only giving out ideas so if they don't work we can always try something else that will. :3
1:21 real life Ron Swanson
We go in, take the money, leaving a trail of death behind us!
Was it worth it?
I don't think Pat's main worry for his health is the dust
Should be talking about PFAS in all the water !
This video reminded me of the new life is strange game
Superfund was the one good government policy in usa in 1980's.
well they will complain when the jobs go away and their town goes broke, cant have it both ways .
0:30 I thought he was gonna say "the biggest thing is...me"
I imagine it would be cheaper to just buy the town and tear it down than try to keep it clean
Another Picher Oklahoma... sad..
Picher oklahoma, declared most toxic town in America by the EPA.. hope they get your town cleaned up and not just kick everyone out like they did to the residents of Picher Oklahoma.. :/
0:29 I honestly thought he would say " Me"